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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2012, 02:29:06 PM »
No one is going to show up to your juvenile stunt festival tomorrow Ian. Everyone knows that it's totally immature because you didn't beg the state.

/sarcasm.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #76 on: June 15, 2012, 04:24:19 PM »
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
No one is going to show up to your juvenile stunt festival tomorrow Ian. Everyone knows that it's totally immature because you didn't beg the state.

/sarcasm.

Your sarcasm would be funny if there was anyone indicating that it had anything to do with getting state permission for anything.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #77 on: June 15, 2012, 04:59:44 PM »
Quote from: What's the frequency, Kenneth? on June 15, 2012, 04:24:19 PM
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
No one is going to show up to your juvenile stunt festival tomorrow Ian. Everyone knows that it's totally immature because you didn't beg the state.

/sarcasm.

Your sarcasm would be funny if there was anyone indicating that it had anything to do with getting state permission for anything.

but it's a free keene event... so therefore it MUST be a juvenile stunt right?
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2012, 07:53:29 PM »
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: What's the frequency, Kenneth? on June 15, 2012, 04:24:19 PM
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
No one is going to show up to your juvenile stunt festival tomorrow Ian. Everyone knows that it's totally immature because you didn't beg the state.

/sarcasm.

Your sarcasm would be funny if there was anyone indicating that it had anything to do with getting state permission for anything.

but it's a free keene event... so therefore it MUST be a juvenile stunt right?

That is also not representative of the complaint.  Perhaps you have something other than straw man arguments.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2012, 10:40:43 PM »
Quote from: What's the frequency, Kenneth? on June 15, 2012, 07:53:29 PM
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: What's the frequency, Kenneth? on June 15, 2012, 04:24:19 PM
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
That is also not representative of the complaint.  Perhaps you have something other than straw man arguments.

I sincerely apologize, I wasn't aware I was talking to an illiterate unaware of the title of this thread. How's the cognitive dissonance working for ya? http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-texas-sharpshooter
« Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 10:42:24 PM by Johnson »
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2012, 12:08:59 PM »
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: What's the frequency, Kenneth? on June 15, 2012, 07:53:29 PM
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 04:59:44 PM
Quote from: What's the frequency, Kenneth? on June 15, 2012, 04:24:19 PM
Quote from: Johnson on June 15, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
That is also not representative of the complaint.  Perhaps you have something other than straw man arguments.

I sincerely apologize, I wasn't aware I was talking to an illiterate unaware of the title of this thread. How's the cognitive dissonance working for ya? http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-texas-sharpshooter

Your first flippant comment implied that this was about "asking permission."  Don't see that in the title.  Your second flippant comment implied that ALL free keene events were called juvenile.  You could continue to be insincere, go or ad hominem attacks, and overall just be an asshole, or you could add meaningful discourse to this discussion.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2012, 12:14:30 PM »
Quote from: What's the frequency, Kenneth? on June 15, 2012, 02:25:42 AM

"meaningful discourse"

I'm glad you've appointed yourself the tsar of it.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #82 on: June 17, 2012, 12:19:03 PM »
So let's be clear... You are saying that it's not immature to not ask permission from the state to do things... You are also saying that not all Free Keene events are immature. Would you care to backpedal or further explain?  So far your attacking comments and lockstep with Denis suggests otherwise...

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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #83 on: June 17, 2012, 04:50:11 PM »
Quote from: Johnson on June 17, 2012, 12:14:30 PM
Quote from: What's the frequency, Kenneth? on June 15, 2012, 02:25:42 AM

"meaningful discourse"

I'm glad you've appointed yourself the tsar of it.

See, this is what I'm talking about.  You evade the point.  The image was appropriate in response to what was said.

Quote from: Johnson on June 17, 2012, 12:19:03 PM
So let's be clear... You are saying that it's not immature to not ask permission from the state to do things... You are also saying that not all Free Keene events are immature. Would you care to backpedal or further explain?  So far your attacking comments and lockstep with Denis suggests otherwise...

I'm saying asking the state has nothing to do with anything.  I'm saying not ALL Free Keene events are immature.  There is no back-pedaling in this.  I'm a different person from Denis, therefore, my views are not necessarily identical.  I'm certainly not in lock-stop with him.  I've even chastised him for making up disparaging terms for Free Keene activists.  Are YOU someone's clone?

Would you care to ask meaningful questions, or do you wish to continue collectivizing, using ad homs, and just plain being a troll?

By the way, if you'd ever actually paid attention to my comments, you'd know that I don't have an issue with activism taking place with which I don't exactly agree.  My issue is very specifically with Ian choosing to actively support the broadcasting of the most harmful activism to libertarian persuasion.  Money is fungible, and hence, AMP dollars are paying for some of that.
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« Reply #84 on: June 18, 2012, 02:46:03 AM »
I don't feel the need to ask questions of the armchair activism critic.... No.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2012, 10:00:09 PM »
Quote from: Johnson on June 18, 2012, 02:46:03 AM
I don't feel the need to ask questions of the armchair activism critic.... No.

A combination of ad hom and straw man:

1) I do my share of activism
2) I'm not saying anyone should not do any activism they feel is correct; it's Ian's insistence on choosing the most damaging to libertarian persuasion and throwing it out there.
3) The only reason I care about that is I'm sending money that's supporting it.

So, your bullshit potshot has absolutely no applicability.
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« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2012, 10:02:34 PM »
Damn, I typo'd and forgot the s... I meant to say "I don't feel the need to ask questions of the armchair activism criticS.... no."

I was going for the trifecta. Ad Hominem, Straw Man, AND collectivizing.
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« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2012, 10:25:52 PM »
Quote from: Johnson on June 18, 2012, 10:02:34 PM
Damn, I typo'd and forgot the s... I meant to say "I don't feel the need to ask questions of the armchair activism criticS.... no."

I was going for the trifecta. Ad Hominem, Straw Man, AND collectivizing.

Why stop there?  You could have gone for reductio ad hitlerum while you were at it.
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« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2012, 10:26:48 PM »
Yeah, but then you've just invoked Godwin's law.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #89 on: June 18, 2012, 11:42:49 PM »
Hey, pick a number between 1 and 100. Dont tell me what it is. I'll guess it, first try.


Ok, go!!
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