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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2012, 02:15:02 PM »

Nah, how could he disagree with the direction of the show?  The direction is that we are getting more stations onboard and bringing more listeners to the ideas of liberty.

He's just harping on the same old thing he's harped on for years - he hates activism that isn't "respectful" to the system.  His beef is with me.  He'd probably love FTL if I weren't on it.

Oh, why can't I just put on a suit and tie and go lobby the legislature like he does?!?!
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2012, 08:41:29 PM »

Why would a liberty-minded person have a problem with people smoking dope in a drum circle on central square - whether it is regarded as activism or not?

I think a lot of civil disobedience has flaws, but I don't have to go to jail or answer for those who participate. Political activism has flaws as well, to say the least.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2012, 12:24:13 AM »

You would think a more pragmatic libertarian would take advantage of the distraction. Cops knocking activist heads and using resources on harmless people like Derrick keeps them from even noticing the smarter (read quieter) breed of agorist and the politicos.

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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2012, 01:12:07 AM »

I'm tired of vapid phrases like "hurting peaceful people" and "nonviolent evolution".

This says a lot about you Dennis, in a not good way.



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Sad to see Dennis still so worked up about this.  Hope you get past your anger.

Denis doesn't seem terribly worked up about it. It sounds like he's disagreed with the direction of the show for a while, and finally came to a decision. He used the power of his wallet to show his disapproval.

Isn't that how the free market is supposed to work?

Yes.

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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2012, 01:22:26 AM »

I'm tired of vapid phrases like "hurting peaceful people" and "nonviolent evolution".

This says a lot about you Dennis, in a not good way.



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Sad to see Dennis still so worked up about this.  Hope you get past your anger.

Denis doesn't seem terribly worked up about it.

He has been fuming about Ian and FK for years now.  He was the one, I believe, who coined the term "freak-staters".

Yeah, he's really letting this get to him.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2012, 01:17:51 PM »

Also, his anger about free people living freely is very sad.  How can he expect others to show tolerance to people who want to live differently if he himself can't do that?
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2012, 04:27:32 AM »

Most of those roads lead to prison or death.

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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2012, 06:04:37 AM »

Guess I was being hyperbolic. I promote agorism and ignoring the state as much as possible. Blatantly going against the state in any way that puts one at it and its enablers mercy seems kind of dumb to me. I am mainly against the silly protests but I don't think it is a excuse for the others to not do what they think might help. If anything black marketeers should be working on making it so liberty lovers have a place to run to and hide when the state does crack down. I think 4 out of the 5 can be done in a practical productive way, but do any of them in a way that pisses on the shoes of some bureaucrat leads to.... jail or death. Protest from a libertarian will always piss on some government leach's shoes.

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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2012, 09:14:11 AM »

I'm sad to see the "cult of personality" that seems to be building in Keene.  The cult leader can continue to pretend that people's comments about the show are irrelevant, but it's really unfortunate that there seem to be so many Kool-Aid drinkers, and so few with common sense.

This, from an unapologetic free market anarchist who knows the difference between choosing to live as free as possible while advocating doing so and irritating the shit out of people and expecting them to be persuaded that your view is right.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2012, 09:18:43 AM »

I feel like something this dramatic should be accompanied by more explanation.
What am I missing here?

Try this...

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/the-show/enough-derek-j-already!/msg655129/#msg655129
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2012, 09:21:26 AM »

I'm tired of vapid phrases like "hurting peaceful people" and "nonviolent evolution".

This says a lot about you Dennis, in a not good way.



+1,000,000

Sad to see Dennis still so worked up about this.  Hope you get past your anger.

Denis doesn't seem terribly worked up about it. It sounds like he's disagreed with the direction of the show for a while, and finally came to a decision. He used the power of his wallet to show his disapproval.

Isn't that how the free market is supposed to work?

When I did it, I was a "drama queen."
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2012, 09:23:11 AM »

Nah, how could he disagree with the direction of the show?  The direction is that we are getting more stations onboard and bringing more listeners to the ideas of liberty.

He's just harping on the same old thing he's harped on for years - he hates activism that isn't "respectful" to the system.  His beef is with me.  He'd probably love FTL if I weren't on it.

Oh, why can't I just put on a suit and tie and go lobby the legislature like he does?!?!

Ian, it's not about being "respectful to the system."  It's about deliberately pissing off people instead of persuading.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2012, 09:26:21 AM »

Also, his anger about free people living freely is very sad.  How can he expect others to show tolerance to people who want to live differently if he himself can't do that?

You honestly don't get it?  It's not about the activism.  It's about BROADCASTING BAD ACTIVISM CHOICES all over the world, making liberty lovers look like those people the state warned them about.  People who haven't "figured it out" already aren't going to be persuaded by that stuff.
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2012, 09:27:39 AM »

FSP Front page...." All these things will be done by local activist organizations with which many Free Staters are involved."

http://freestateproject.org/

"activist organizations" are suggested to follow the "five P's" of activism ------ philanthropy, proselytizing, prepping, protesting, and politics."

http://freestateproject.org/nhinfo/Activism

There is not "one road" to liberty.....there are "five roads" and more.

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty. Thomas Jefferson


I didn't see "pissing off the unindoctrinated."
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Re: Tired of juvenile stunts misrepresenting the FSP. Canceled my AMP.
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2012, 09:36:42 AM »

That is a bonus.
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