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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #120 on: February 11, 2011, 12:14:17 PM »

I'm writing a book about people who turn into dolphins, Zhwazi.  You would probably be disappointed though because there is no explicit sex-while-a-dolphin that happens in it.  Been working on it for over five years.  Prolly be at least that much longer before I'm finished.
That wouldn't disappoint me, sex isn't appropriate for everything everywhere that there's an opportunity for it :P
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #121 on: February 11, 2011, 12:15:47 PM »

WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #122 on: February 11, 2011, 12:22:26 PM »

WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN.
Hahahah. Away from politics, focused on IT and furfaggotry.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #123 on: February 11, 2011, 01:10:35 PM »

Got a short minute at lunch. I need a clarification question. What is your definition of LTV. What do you get from it and what are your conclusions? All of this is important in my responses.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #124 on: February 11, 2011, 02:12:50 PM »

Oh. Wow.

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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #125 on: February 11, 2011, 03:20:29 PM »

It's not something I can provide in as simple an explanation as a definition. See http://mutualist.org/id56.html for some info, big page is big and I don't expect you to read it all, but skim the first third or so at least. Can't get into long explanations, on my cellphone at work.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #126 on: February 11, 2011, 04:05:35 PM »

It's not something I can provide in as simple an explanation as a definition. See http://mutualist.org/id56.html for some info, big page is big and I don't expect you to read it all, but skim the first third or so at least. Can't get into long explanations, on my cellphone at work.

I've read a huge chunk (over half) of that page. It's full of false conclusions and misrepresentations masquerading as reason. That's a little harsh, the author attempts to rationalize some of the more greivous answers of LTV, but still comes to the same false conclusions at the end. Like you, I can't go into more detail as I'm at work.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #127 on: February 11, 2011, 04:12:18 PM »

I couldn't make it thru the second paragraph.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #128 on: February 11, 2011, 04:58:56 PM »

I couldn't make it thru the second paragraph.

That's cause you're "obviously a stupid AnCap and Zhwazi knows exactly what it is you think/believe cause he used to be an AnCap but is now an AnSyn....."
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #129 on: February 11, 2011, 05:17:39 PM »

I couldn't make it thru the second paragraph.

That's cause you're "obviously a stupid AnCap and Zhwazi knows exactly what it is you think/believe cause he used to be an AnCap but is now an AnSyn....."
And here I thought it was because economics is obscenely boring and because reading contrary thoughts for somebody that doesnt have a stake in it is a poor use of time.

I notice you didn't bother to contradict or deny any of my characterizations of what you believe. Is this perhaps because I characterized it correctly? I can see why it might be scary, but when LTKoblinsky thought I mischarachterized his understanding he said so. You said effectively nothing and ignored the affront to your sense of moral indignance.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #130 on: February 11, 2011, 05:24:41 PM »

I may be stupid, but I'm not an AnCap.

I just can't get into this economic theory stuff.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #131 on: February 11, 2011, 08:59:59 PM »

I may be stupid, but I'm not an AnCap.

I just can't get into this economic theory stuff.

Don't worry, you'll soon be a part of Zhwazi's collective whether you want to be or not. Cause he'll use the Labor Theory of Value to convince you. Sort of like the mind-numbed Zeitgeist Movement/Venus Project people.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #132 on: February 11, 2011, 09:20:28 PM »

I may be stupid, but I'm not an AnCap.

I just can't get into this economic theory stuff.

Don't worry, you'll soon be a part of Zhwazi's collective whether you want to be or not. Cause he'll use the Labor Theory of Value to convince you. Sort of like the mind-numbed Zeitgeist Movement/Venus Project people.
That's it, give us more evidence that you are motivated by moral indignance and pride, throw more inaccurate insults and demonstrate more ignorance and unwillingness to know than anyone else and you too can achieve positive self-image via negative images of others.

Your lack of hesitation to attack also shows how scared you are of how well I do understand your political thought process. The more you fight, the more you lose.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #133 on: February 11, 2011, 10:10:41 PM »

I may be stupid, but I'm not an AnCap.

I just can't get into this economic theory stuff.

Don't worry, you'll soon be a part of Zhwazi's collective whether you want to be or not. Cause he'll use the Labor Theory of Value to convince you. Sort of like the mind-numbed Zeitgeist Movement/Venus Project people.
That's it, give us more evidence that you are motivated by moral indignance and pride, throw more inaccurate insults and demonstrate more ignorance and unwillingness to know than anyone else and you too can achieve positive self-image via negative images of others.

Your lack of hesitation to attack also shows how scared you are of how well I do understand your political thought process. The more you fight, the more you lose.

Listen, he may not understand the ins and outs of economic policy or may just find it boring (who could, really? but to each his own). The point is, he doesn't even need to be see the nuanced flaws of LTV to see the problems with collectivist thought in general.
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Re: Time to introduce myself... I'm a left libertarian
« Reply #134 on: February 11, 2011, 11:08:11 PM »

I may be stupid, but I'm not an AnCap.

I just can't get into this economic theory stuff.

Don't worry, you'll soon be a part of Zhwazi's collective whether you want to be or not. Cause he'll use the Labor Theory of Value to convince you. Sort of like the mind-numbed Zeitgeist Movement/Venus Project people.
That's it, give us more evidence that you are motivated by moral indignance and pride, throw more inaccurate insults and demonstrate more ignorance and unwillingness to know than anyone else and you too can achieve positive self-image via negative images of others.

Your lack of hesitation to attack also shows how scared you are of how well I do understand your political thought process. The more you fight, the more you lose.

Listen, he may not understand the ins and outs of economic policy or may just find it boring (who could, really? but to each his own). The point is, he doesn't even need to be see the nuanced flaws of LTV to see the problems with collectivist thought in general.
I just want to be clear, I was replying to Brooklyn Red Leg, not Blackie. Blackie can keep doing what he's doing, nothing he's doing is bothering me. He showed that my guess as to why he didn't get through the second paragraph was correct also.

In retort to Brooklyn Red Leg's (who never commented on economic policy, didn't read my post and is just being an asstart) accusations, I'm not a collectivist (hence the "inaccurate" mentioned in my reply to him). LTV is not inherently collectivist. An idea being useful to collectivists doesn't make it collectivistic if it's also useful to individualists.

I don't understand the ins and outs of economic policy either. But I'm willing to learn and don't think anything is beyond my ability to know, so I'll learn as needed.
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