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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2014, 04:54:45 AM »

http://www.naturalchild.org/research/corporal_punishment.html
Parenting with Joe Rogan and Stefan Molyneux
The Child rearing thing isn't a strawman. I was making a point that abiding the NAP would create a better human as a aside. You were the one trying to point out that spanking is swell as long as the victim is smaller weaker and under your charge. A strawman would be me pointing out that minarchism always leads to statism as proven in the good old USA and making you defend concentration camps and the purges. Do I need to post a link proving that bad unaccountable people seek power?
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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2014, 09:15:43 AM »

It would be so awesome to have Joe Rogan as a dad. I think I'd kill myself if Stefan was my dad. I'm glad he's around. Don't get me wrong. I just couldn't take that much of him.

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2014, 10:09:22 AM »

RE: alaric89

NAP punishment does not include abuse, but this could include punishment that is defensive in nature, not aggressive.
And your link offered no proof concerning that such defensive(restitution) NON-abusive punishment.


Your refutation that you offered a straw man does nothing to change the fact that you offered a straw man.

Let's review . . .

You claimed, “In a free society kids would not know corperal punishment.”

I responded, “A parent exercising punishment of their kid could happen (and likely would happen) within the confines of the NAP.”

You then converted to a straw man by replying, “I would argue that beating”

I responded -- There is a difference between "corporal punishment" and "beating".

You then continued the straw man further by replying, “Show me a torture victim that isn't messed up.”

I then stated, “your point was about corporal punishment and then you switched topic to beating and then to torture.”

You now replied, “The Child rearing thing isn't a strawman.”

That claim is not intellectually valid.

Further, in an apparent attempt to distract from your invalid refutation, you then mischaracterize my original statement.

I originally stated, “A parent exercising punishment of their kid could happen (and likely would happen) within the confines of the NAP.

You now characterize that as “You were the one trying to point out that spanking is swell as long as the victim is smaller weaker and under your charge.”

This was absolutely not what I was trying to point out and is a ridiculous claim on its face.

You then ask a ridiculous question, “Do I need to post a link proving that bad unaccountable people seek power?”, as if that has anything to do whatsoever with your obvious straw man(though as yet refuted by you).

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2014, 10:11:23 AM »

I am sure they are both fine fathers, Dale. So when are you going to point out that me and you argued about the spanking thing and you beat me? Amazing how much I have learned on this BBS. Still find your gay porn annoying but luv ya anyway. :)

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2014, 10:28:23 AM »

Miz Voice are you going to refute any of my points? Here is another logical fallacy you should be aware of called a red herring. The whole upbringing thing was a asside. I added my experiences ,anidotal I know, to bolster why I believe it to be true. It was not a straw man, A straw man forces you to take a repugnant posistion that sounds bad. If it was somehow a straw man it was accidental.
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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #50 on: February 02, 2014, 10:44:30 AM »

Mr. Voice are you going to refute any of my points?

. . . .

It was not a straw man, A straw man forces you to take a repugnant posistion that sounds bad.


You aint got to call me Mr, mister.

A straw man does not require a repugnant position.
That argument could, itself, be considered another straw man.
A straw man can be constituted by any argument that is OFF TOPIC.

What points are you talking about that have not been refuted ?
And are any of them on topic ?
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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #51 on: February 02, 2014, 11:37:42 AM »

Ha, you are a chick. I was starting to wonder.

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #52 on: February 02, 2014, 11:38:08 AM »

Mr. Voice are you going to refute any of my points?

Hehe. No, he's not.

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Here is another logical fallacy you should be aware of called a red herring. The whole upbringing thing was a asside. I added my experiences ,anidotal I know, to bolster why I believe it to be true. It was not a straw man, A straw man forces you to take a repugnant posistion that sounds bad. If it was somehow a straw man it was accidental.

You haven't noticed the pattern yet? He repeatedly ignores your strongest points and quotes, dwells on, and nitpicks each and every aside to make the discussion as tedious and nerve-wracking as possible. Just ignore when he does that.

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #53 on: February 02, 2014, 11:52:39 AM »

"She" I am working on my second divorce. I should have noticed the argument style several posts back.

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2014, 11:56:17 AM »

Mr. Voice are you going to refute any of my points?

Hehe. No, he's not.

You haven't noticed the pattern yet? He repeatedly ignores your strongest points and quotes, dwells on, and nitpicks each and every aside to make the discussion as tedious and nerve-wracking as possible. Just ignore when he does that.

Hehe, but you cannot support that view by reviewing the thread.
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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2014, 11:57:48 AM »

Ha, you are a chick. I was starting to wonder.

Another false claim. I tire of your nonsense.

I guess it should not be surprising that the activity level on this board is low.
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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2014, 12:59:16 PM »

I went back and corrected my posts. The traffic has improved a lot lately, probably thanks to people like yourself and that fellow with autism. Thank you BTW.

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2014, 01:50:07 PM »

I am sure they are both fine fathers, Dale. So when are you going to point out that me and you argued about the spanking thing and you beat me? Amazing how much I have learned on this BBS. Still find your gay porn annoying but luv ya anyway. :)

I had honestly forgotten. I'm just glad you feel differently now. I'm especially happy for your kids. :)

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM »

I went back and corrected my posts. The traffic has improved a lot lately, probably thanks to people like yourself and that fellow with autism. Thank you BTW.
Is this directed toward myself ?

If so, what corrections did you make ?

I can tell you I would defensively commit [something] against anyone that called me Miss to my face.

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Re: THREE QUESTIONS ??? FOR THE NAP(Non-Aggression Principle) ANARCHIST
« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2014, 04:33:43 PM »

Your married? How the hell should I know that. I meant no offense.
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