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Dave P. R. of S.

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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2009, 03:55:19 PM »

The Constitution is clear about civilian populace control. If the military remains in charge, then they (military) would be in violation of the Constitution. However, I don't believe the Military will remain in control over such an event.

However, you would be mistaken.

People in power dont seem to have a history of just giving up that power.

But perhaps I missed the military's rush to get out of South Korea.  Or that swift withdraw from the middle east after "mission accomplished."

Facts as propaganda of course.
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2009, 03:56:42 PM »

Don't worry Mr. Msgt. I believe in you. I know that you will protect against all enemies foreign and domestic, and against communism and socialism. Even if all these anarchists don't believe in you, I certainly believe in you. You are the real hero.
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2009, 04:04:41 PM »

I'm calling Shenanigans here.
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NHArticleTen

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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2009, 05:16:47 PM »

Don't worry Mr. Msgt. I believe in you. I know that you will protect against all enemies foreign and domestic, and against communism and socialism. Even if all these anarchists don't believe in you, I certainly believe in you. You are the real hero.

yeah...big hero...getting paid via gunpoint theft called taxation...

simple solution is...no taxes...then no loot and booty for the mercenaries...

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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2009, 05:21:05 PM »

Don't worry Mr. Msgt. I believe in you. I know that you will protect against all enemies foreign and domestic, and against communism and socialism. Even if all these anarchists don't believe in you, I certainly believe in you. You are the real hero.

after you're done eating his shit can you do us all a favor and shoot yourself.  Thanks a bunch Lukey!
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2009, 05:23:08 PM »

Don't worry Mr. Msgt. I believe in you. I know that you will protect against all enemies foreign and domestic, and against communism and socialism. Even if all these anarchists don't believe in you, I certainly believe in you. You are the real hero.

after you're done eating his shit can you do us all a favor and shoot yourself.  Thanks a bunch Lukey!

actually...don't waste a cartridge...just jump off the nearest tall building...

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MSgt_Retired

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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2009, 08:42:43 PM »

Those who responded in a negative childish way. You must have a death wish. If you have it your way, while creating chaos, you will be praying just before a foreign army puts a bullet in your brain, but after raping/sodomizing you if female again and again and again and torturing your men and putting a bullet in your children's brain These are the facts. Maybe you think; as the Foreign General contemplates, whether to take this land and with what resources are left. "We don't want to go there (America) those anarchist are really really mean!" "I know sir, drop some biological agents on them. We can walk in now!"

This is as far I'll respond to an idiotic response.
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2009, 10:27:26 PM »

Do you think the U.S. Military will allow socialism/communism to be forced on the population by some air heads!

Yes

Why?

Coming from a military family (eight of eight siblings in the generation that proceeded me covered all 5 branches between them, 2 stayed til retirement) and having been in the military myself, also having a brother that understands liberty quite well, did 3 years enlisted (who admittedly tortured "fucked with" Iraqis personally and turned others over to the IA and stood outside while he listened to their screams and saw the ratchet straps and battery when they were done, and rounded up all males of military age in one town and incarcerated them all pending IA "interrogation") got a ROTC scholarship and hopes to also go to law school on Uncle Sam to then finish his 20 as a JAG (A Jag that truly does get NAP and the constitution and liberty and doesn't give a fuck because in the end might makes right and he's gonna be on the side of the mighty)....  that ended up a bit long....  As I was saying, coming from that, I have seen these people bow down to the almighty government on every issue every time, they think that whatever the US Government does is how freedom is defined, anyone who says different is anti-american and a disgrace to the founding fathers and they'd be more than happy to put them down in the name of 'freedom', god bless motherfucking America.

PS  The same brother who votes with the top 20% most libertarian Americans and is on his way to becoming a career JAG says he would gladly confiscate guns Katrina Style even though he knows it's fully unconstitutional, if he's ordered to do it, he will and not feel a bit bad about it.  He's the most libertarian military member I've ever met.  He's understands liberty enough to admit he's a fascist who thinks liberty works best in most situations.  He is the future, and from what I can tell the lesser evil, of the United States Military. 
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2009, 10:45:25 PM »

Do you think the U.S. Military will allow socialism/communism to be forced on the population by some air heads!

Yes

Why?

Because the military is a socialist organization.
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2009, 11:39:00 PM »

Do you think the U.S. Military will allow socialism/communism to be forced on the population by some air heads!

Yes

Why?

Coming from a military family (eight of eight siblings in the generation that proceeded me covered all 5 branches between them, 2 stayed til retirement) and having been in the military myself, also having a brother that understands liberty quite well, did 3 years enlisted (who admittedly tortured "fucked with" Iraqis personally and turned others over to the IA and stood outside while he listened to their screams and saw the ratchet straps and battery when they were done, and rounded up all males of military age in one town and incarcerated them all pending IA "interrogation") got a ROTC scholarship and hopes to also go to law school on Uncle Sam to then finish his 20 as a JAG (A Jag that truly does get NAP and the constitution and liberty and doesn't give a fuck because in the end might makes right and he's gonna be on the side of the mighty)....  that ended up a bit long....  As I was saying, coming from that, I have seen these people bow down to the almighty government on every issue every time, they think that whatever the US Government does is how freedom is defined, anyone who says different is anti-american and a disgrace to the founding fathers and they'd be more than happy to put them down in the name of 'freedom', god bless motherfucking America.

PS  The same brother who votes with the top 20% most libertarian Americans and is on his way to becoming a career JAG says he would gladly confiscate guns Katrina Style even though he knows it's fully unconstitutional, if he's ordered to do it, he will and not feel a bit bad about it.  He's the most libertarian military member I've ever met.  He's understands liberty enough to admit he's a fascist who thinks liberty works best in most situations.  He is the future, and from what I can tell the lesser evil, of the United States Military. 

Government can only derive it's powers through the people and IAW the Constitution.  The Declaration of Independence also said if we move away from our principals because of abuses, then the people has a right and duty to demand a reset themselves. And yes there are bad in all aspects of vocations and will continue to be so. I saw it during my tenure in the Military and I retired 16 years ago. However, 1, 2 or more bad apples do not spoil the pie and that pie should not be tossed out, nothing is perfect. In other words you don't burn it down just because there are those bad apples that should not be where they are, either in the military or not. The alternative would be anarchy and chaos whereby now we have small groups/clans with their own hierarchy. What these misguided people don't understand, if you burn it down the door to the house is wide open to an organized foreign military takeover. However, at present the founders had it right and those principals of Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness shall not be infringe. Socialism will not allow this, Communism will not allow this, Fascism will not allow this and neither will anarchy allow this. Don't tread on me and I won't tread on you is my personal code. The socialist played all their cards too soon in Washington thereby making a tactical error. There are not enough youth that have been brainwashed yet. I'm sure the top brass in the military is gaming through intelligence reports (Sitreps) gaming the current state of affairs of this nation. If Obama and his henchman continue with a takeover of the United States by circumventing the Constitution and building his army through a Civilian National Public Service initiative then America will be very close to a Constitutional reset.
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2009, 11:59:38 PM »

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However, 1, 2 or more bad apples do not spoil the pie and that pie should not be tossed out, nothing is perfect.

A few bad apples?  I'm under the impression that's pretty normal shit for Iraq.  He didn't mention anyone objecting rounding up all males of military age binding their wrists and turning them over to the IA knowing they were gonna get tortured.  That's not a couple of bad apples, that's a Tuesday.

I hope you're right.  It would benefit your argument to provide ONE documented example of a member or unit of the military refusing an unconstitutional order w/o being punished or prosecuted. 

Extra double super bonus points for ONE example of a unit or member of the US military who defended the constitution w/ force or threat thereof from one of their superiors or another government agency.

Wallace at the schoolhouse door doesn't count, the National Guard's orders came from the President.  If it were the other way, Pres at the door and Alabama Governor commanding the Alabama National guard, that would count, but it wasn't.
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2009, 06:10:28 AM »

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However, 1, 2 or more bad apples do not spoil the pie and that pie should not be tossed out, nothing is perfect.

A few bad apples?  I'm under the impression that's pretty normal shit for Iraq.  He didn't mention anyone objecting rounding up all males of military age binding their wrists and turning them over to the IA knowing they were gonna get tortured.  That's not a couple of bad apples, that's a Tuesday.

I hope you're right.  It would benefit your argument to provide ONE documented example of a member or unit of the military refusing an unconstitutional order w/o being punished or prosecuted. 

Extra double super bonus points for ONE example of a unit or member of the US military who defended the constitution w/ force or threat thereof from one of their superiors or another government agency.

Wallace at the schoolhouse door doesn't count, the National Guard's orders came from the President.  If it were the other way, Pres at the door and Alabama Governor commanding the Alabama National guard, that would count, but it wasn't.

It is too bad you and others just don't get it. "If it ain't perfect burn it down". Actually, that is what the new breed wants, looking for any excuse. It appears that you guys hate anything to do with the military (and police), well if Obama gets his way, you are going to get it with a belly full of incursions on your own rights. Think about it. More of what you don't want! Here is my answer to at least one good thing about the military: You are exercising your right to free speech! If you guys think you can win against an overwhelming force Domestic or Foreign, think again! Done answering posts that are just plain stupid! I'll ignore those that are just lost in their own minds.
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Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2009, 12:43:33 PM »

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Here is my answer to at least one good thing about the military

I didn't ask for one good thing about the military.  I didn't say anything about burning it down.  I asked for one instance when they protected the constitution from the government.  I don't think they will, you do.  I have a whole pile of history to support my side, what have you got?

I really, really want to be proven wrong here.

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well if Obama gets his way, you are going to get it with a belly full of incursions on your own rights

I know  :( 

I thought you were telling me that's not the case because the military will protect me.
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2009, 12:46:40 PM »

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Here is my answer to at least one good thing about the military: You are exercising your right to free speech!

I swear if I hear this one more time I'll.....I'll.....burn the whole thing down!
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2009, 12:56:08 PM »

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Government can only derive it's powers through the people and IAW the Constitution.


Of course, all the heavy armament helps, especially when their goals no longer parallel those of The People.

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