Then is it not proper to wonder if Muslims seeking Islamic society may be better suited in settling in an Islamic society instead of bending incompatible societies to suit them?
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That's a very statist way of looking at geopolitics. Human societies experience perpetual change, with good ideas expanding and bad ideas shrinking and withering away. This is how small Saxons tribes managed to expand from a forested slice of northern Germany to Britain, North America, Australia, and beyond. And now, this is how Islam is managing to expand, filling in the economic void created by the West's self-destructive socialist and feminist mistakes.
And I can't think of any major examples of any Islamic minority trying to "bend" society, only act in self-defence. (Taking into account that they consider insulting the foundations of their social contract to be a mind-blowing insult, far more than America's right-wing socialists frown on pot or flag-burning, and far more than America's left-wing socialists frown on guns or the n-word.) I guess the closest example to them trying to "bend" society would be the car burnings in France, but that was more of a socialist / racist riot than a Muslim one.
Not altogether so.. big gov. is expanding & that's not a good idea. Making welcome a culture based on kooky ideas also isn't a good thing. I think a better path is the West self correcting it's mistakes rather than remaining passive while the kooks get all comfy. TimeLady has already put it all out there & I agree with her.
The bending doesn't have to be strong. Subtle stuff like this architecture drama for example. Seems obvious that the host country isn't partial to the idea. Whatever though.. I've posted all this shit already.
What I don't get about a lot of people here is their ability to collectively refer to cops and politicians as one and the same without having to provide the disclaimer of "except the good ones", yet when people criticize other groups as a whole it becomes an orgy of PCness with all this shit about discrimination, bigotry, etc.
Cops and politicians are known to have a large portion of assholes in their numbers. So does the "muslim community", "ghetto people", "Republican", "Democrat" ..so if it's fair to call out one group it should be fair to call out others, without the need to preemptively defend your position.