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Title: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 10:27:11 PM

Hi, felines and fellers. 

Today I have announced a plan.  But not the details.  I'll cover that in a minute. 

The reason for this thread is for me to chart my progress and shoot the shit around a little bit about peoples goals, success, failures, hopes and dreams - or the lesser (but not unimportant) more trivial things like vacation plans, moving to a new pad, finishing school (school is very important, not trivial at all).  That said, I wish you all well on your personal plans in advance, nothing sucks like a big let-down. 

I want this thread to be positive.  I will moderate it and delete any negative trollers that aren't good natured ribbing.  If you can't take a little ribbing, don't post here, but theres no need to be obnoxious about something someone is putting forth effort into.  These are the things that make us better people, and not drones that shuffle through endless, repetetive days while precious life slides past like thread rolling off a spool.  It ends, you know.  And you need to do some cool shit, sometimes very important shit, to mark yourself as a productive, driven, and creative human. 

Reluctantly, I'm not gonna offer any specific details regarding my plans.  Because, to be honest, I feel a little trepidation over it.  But I'll say:  Its large, serious, and will totally change my life.  Everything has a chance of failure.  Because of the chance to fail, I would rather spare myself the ridicule in advance, its not constructive to my goal.  I need positivity, not negativity.  Plus, many of you would think I was completely full of shit - Mr BigTalk behind a computer, stroking his ego and making the whole thing up.  Trust me, I'm dead-fuckin-serious.  I have given myself over to the power of positive thinking.  You can make things happen, sometimes some really outlandish things.  But you have to believe it wholly, you have to live it, in advance. 

However, I am documenting my efforts, and I have a tentative goal of Christmas of this year.  Thats where my 2-week plotting ended as I logged my targets in my journal.  I took it as a good omen.  However, I have an advance goal, like a point of no return, which is in August, around my birthday.  If I get that far, I've essentially won my personal challenge, and at that time, will drop the documentation into here and claim success.  I'll also bump every few days if its not active, to give a progress report. 

If you wanna play hot-or-cold, I'll answer basic questions, I guess.  But not a million of 'em.  And no, I am not moving to The Free State. 

So, welcome to my journey.  It starts officially today. 

 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 14, 2009, 10:34:24 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: JWI on March 14, 2009, 10:36:21 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on March 14, 2009, 10:39:07 PM
Are you planning to be my marathon training buddy?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 14, 2009, 10:40:09 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: JWI on March 14, 2009, 10:42:05 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

Well congrats!  Still....Chicago is icky.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on March 14, 2009, 10:42:16 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

He'd have to leave soon, because I doubt he'll want to go anywhere once Lindsey gets to town.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 14, 2009, 10:45:25 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

He'd have to leave soon, because I doubt he'll want to go anywhere once Lindsey gets to town.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on March 14, 2009, 11:01:14 PM
If you wanna play hot-or-cold, I'll answer basic questions, I guess. 
Does it involve piles of dead people?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:04:15 PM
Are you planning to be my marathon training buddy?

I would, but I would die shortly after the first half-mile.  Maybe in a Jazzy.  

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:05:29 PM
If you wanna play hot-or-cold, I'll answer basic questions, I guess. 
Does it involve piles of dead people?

Not at the moment.  "cold"

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:08:39 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Thanks. 

Thats a good goal.  A substantial plan, indeed.  Keep us in the loop. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on March 14, 2009, 11:08:52 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Near me! Cool shit.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:10:50 PM

Look at that, making friends and contacts already. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on March 14, 2009, 11:11:28 PM
Does it involve day trading?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on March 14, 2009, 11:13:36 PM
When you move, be sure to keep your eyes open for Mr. Chi-City.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on March 14, 2009, 11:13:51 PM
If you wanna play hot-or-cold, I'll answer basic questions, I guess. 
Does it involve piles of dead people?

Not at the moment.  "cold"



Piles of live people, then, with or without  massive amounts of booze?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: BonerJoe on March 14, 2009, 11:14:23 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

You know Lindsey, I just realized why I don't like Florida. It's the monotony of the weather. And it turns people boring.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:15:24 PM
Does it involve day trading?

Yup.  Getting warm, though.  Its not the whole thing, just a part of it.  A large part, admittedly.  
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on March 14, 2009, 11:16:11 PM
One of my goals is to figure out where I want to live.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: BonerJoe on March 14, 2009, 11:17:30 PM
Brasky's gonna corner the pork belly market.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 14, 2009, 11:18:02 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

You know Lindsey, I just realized why I don't like Florida. It's the monotony of the weather. And it turns people boring.

Yeah, the weather is not good.  I miss seasons, and I'm in my underwear and a cami right now, and I'm sweating.  I have no idea why.  It's only about 70 degrees here...but that's part of the reason for my goal.  I LIKE Chicago.  I like being up north.  And you're right...it IS boring.  I don't want to be boring! 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:19:47 PM
One of my goals is to figure out where I want to live.

Me too, man.

I thought you liked where you're at.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:21:19 PM
Brasky's gonna corner the pork belly market.

I will have them all, the pork shall be mine! 

I will be the king of pigs. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on March 14, 2009, 11:21:46 PM
One of my goals is to figure out where I want to live.

Me too, man.

I thought you liked where you're at.


I would not recommend Atlanta.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:23:33 PM
One of my goals is to figure out where I want to live.

Me too, man.

I thought you liked where you're at.


I would not recommend Atlanta.

Lots of gang crime, expensive as hell.  No. 

I like GA, but it'd have to be a few miles from the coast. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on March 14, 2009, 11:23:56 PM
I thought you liked where you're at.
TX? Ummm, no. I'm only here for the job.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 14, 2009, 11:32:48 PM
I thought you liked where you're at.
TX? Ummm, no. I'm only here for the job.

Hm.  Sorry to hear that.  Make the best of it, I guess. 

You like the house at least? 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on March 14, 2009, 11:42:37 PM
I thought you liked where you're at.
TX? Ummm, no. I'm only here for the job.

Hm.  Sorry to hear that.  Make the best of it, I guess. 

You like the house at least? 
Not really. I don't like this city/neighborhood/neighbor shit. And traffic. But I only live 8 miles from where I work, so it's not that bad.

It was nice not to deal with snow this year.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: hellbilly on March 15, 2009, 12:35:19 AM
*Question withdrawn so as to avoid possibly spilling the beans.*
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 15, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
I thought you liked where you're at.
TX? Ummm, no. I'm only here for the job.

Hm.  Sorry to hear that.  Make the best of it, I guess. 

You like the house at least? 
Not really. I don't like this city/neighborhood/neighbor shit. And traffic. But I only live 8 miles from where I work, so it's not that bad.

It was nice not to deal with snow this year.

You're one of those freaks that likes living in the middle of nowhere, aren't you?  My goal is to HAVE to neighbors.   :lol:
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: mikehz on March 15, 2009, 12:47:57 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

My favorite niece moved to the Windy City five years ago. She hates, hates it. But, that's where her job is.

If you want to move to someplace with weather, I'm surprised you're not picking New Hampshire, where at least you'll be around your own kind.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: John Shaw on March 15, 2009, 12:56:10 PM
My biggest long term goal has been achieved, already.

House = PWNED

Gotta make some new ones now.

They will probably have to do with making money, I'd expect.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 15, 2009, 12:58:46 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

My favorite niece moved to the Windy City five years ago. She hates, hates it. But, that's where her job is.

If you want to move to someplace with weather, I'm surprised you're not picking New Hampshire, where at least you'll be around your own kind.

It's not a random choice.  Plus, I don't want to move to New Hampshire. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 15, 2009, 01:58:38 PM

My plans are a little less ambitious today, now that I have a few days off. 

I'm gonna watch TV, fiddle around with some geek stuff, wash clothes, drink several Heinekens later - I might even break out my pewter glass-bottomed monogrammed mug. 

Under normal conditions, the mug is cheezy.  But it's old, so its got a burnished character to it, and I like it. 

I have a cheese steak thats made from chipped steak. 

I guess thats about it. 

But I gotta stay sharp.  Gotta stay focused.  Tomorrow, The Plan starts to roll. 

I have decided to call it   Operation: Gridiron.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 15, 2009, 03:17:01 PM

My plans are a little less ambitious today, now that I have a few days off. 

I'm gonna watch TV, fiddle around with some geek stuff, wash clothes, drink several Heinekens later - I might even break out my pewter glass-bottomed monogrammed mug. 

Under normal conditions, the mug is cheezy.  But it's old, so its got a burnished character to it, and I like it. 

I have a cheese steak thats made from chipped steak. 

I guess thats about it. 

But I gotta stay sharp.  Gotta stay focused.  Tomorrow, The Plan starts to roll. 

I have decided to call it   Operation: Gridiron.

If nothing else, that's a cool name for a plan. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 15, 2009, 05:40:09 PM

My plans are a little less ambitious today, now that I have a few days off. 

I'm gonna watch TV, fiddle around with some geek stuff, wash clothes, drink several Heinekens later - I might even break out my pewter glass-bottomed monogrammed mug. 

Under normal conditions, the mug is cheezy.  But it's old, so its got a burnished character to it, and I like it. 

I have a cheese steak thats made from chipped steak. 

I guess thats about it. 

But I gotta stay sharp.  Gotta stay focused.  Tomorrow, The Plan starts to roll. 

I have decided to call it   Operation: Gridiron.

If nothing else, that's a cool name for a plan. 

Thanks.

Its the football thing.  I can get forward downs, and when I get to the goal of ten yards, it resets to first down.  As long as I keep moving forward in small increments, and don't get sacked or fumble, I can eventually get to the End Zone. 

Plus, it sounds all masculine.  Grid.  Iron.  Very manly.  Like Towtruck.  Or Lumberjack.  Etymology FTW. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on March 15, 2009, 07:50:46 PM
errr.
sorry, dude.
i pre-emptively voted, thinking the ''HE'' you were talking about was the messiah....BLOBAMA
carry on...& do discount my negative vote
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 15, 2009, 08:20:10 PM
errr.
sorry, dude.
i pre-emptively voted, thinking the ''HE'' you were talking about was the messiah....BLOBAMA
carry on...& do discount my negative vote

Its arite, dude.  Cheers.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on March 15, 2009, 08:36:27 PM
I have a proposal with travel channel for them to film a reality show of a friend and I breaking the worlds record for most roller coasters ridden in 24 hours. We hope to hit 3 parks in the midwest. I hope the accept the proposal. The tape was already sent in.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 15, 2009, 09:02:40 PM
I have a proposal with travel channel for them to film a reality show of a friend and I breaking the worlds record for most roller coasters ridden in 24 hours. We hope to hit 3 parks in the midwest. I hope the accept the proposal. The tape was already sent in.

Wow.  No shit. 

The most different coasters?  Would they take reservations in advance so you can blow through the gates and not wait in lines?

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on March 16, 2009, 01:34:03 AM
I have a proposal with travel channel for them to film a reality show of a friend and I breaking the worlds record for most roller coasters ridden in 24 hours. We hope to hit 3 parks in the midwest. I hope the accept the proposal. The tape was already sent in.

Wow.  No shit. 

The most different coasters?  Would they take reservations in advance so you can blow through the gates and not wait in lines?



Yes, the most different coasters. We will not have to wait in line if it works out.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: BonerJoe on March 16, 2009, 02:40:19 AM
Dear Sir,

Thanks for your idea for a new show. We are now in production and it will be airing in July.

To show our gratitude, we are enclosing a $10 gift certificate to the Discovery Channel Store.

Sincerely,
LOL we ripped your idea off.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on March 16, 2009, 02:46:27 AM
Dear Sir,

Thanks for your idea for a new show. We are now in production and it will be airing in July.

To show our gratitude, we are enclosing a $10 gift certificate to the Discovery Channel Store.

Sincerely,
LOL we ripped your idea off.

THIS.
Reminds me of some UW-Madison students I talked to a few years ago. They designed a computer chip and a way to put it in a shoe (dunno why or what exactly). They asked Nike if they wanted to purchase the product to produce and Nike said "No, but you can give it to us for free." They wasted their time and money and after awhile realized that the companies were just going to rip them off.

To Diogenes: Maybe you should try Collegehumor.com? They get money to do fun stuff sometimes, and what fun this would be.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Keels on March 16, 2009, 08:35:52 AM
When you move, be sure to keep your eyes open for Mr. Chi-City.


HAHA. Lindz fo reals...he is the shit, ya hurd?

My only plan currently is to get out of debt and get my fucking passport. finally.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 16, 2009, 08:53:43 AM
When you move, be sure to keep your eyes open for Mr. Chi-City.


HAHA. Lindz fo reals...he is the shit, ya hurd?

My only plan currently is to get out of debt and get my fucking passport. finally.


Hahaha, right.   :P

Oh...debt...yes.  A good plan is to get out of that.  I've had that plan as well.  ARGH. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on March 16, 2009, 10:05:31 AM

My plans are a little less ambitious today, now that I have a few days off. 

I'm gonna watch TV, fiddle around with some geek stuff, wash clothes, drink several Heinekens later - I might even break out my pewter glass-bottomed monogrammed mug. 

Under normal conditions, the mug is cheezy.  But it's old, so its got a burnished character to it, and I like it. 

I have a cheese steak thats made from chipped steak. 

I guess thats about it. 

But I gotta stay sharp.  Gotta stay focused.  Tomorrow, The Plan starts to roll. 

I have decided to call it   Operation: Gridiron.


well, as long as you didn't pull an ''ecolitan'', and try to disguise hamburger as steak, i'd say you're well on your way to success, grasshopper.
you have snatched the pebbles from my hand....
go now
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on March 16, 2009, 02:02:56 PM

My plans are a little less ambitious today, now that I have a few days off. 

I'm gonna watch TV, fiddle around with some geek stuff, wash clothes, drink several Heinekens later - I might even break out my pewter glass-bottomed monogrammed mug. 

Under normal conditions, the mug is cheezy.  But it's old, so its got a burnished character to it, and I like it. 

I have a cheese steak thats made from chipped steak. 

I guess thats about it. 

But I gotta stay sharp.  Gotta stay focused.  Tomorrow, The Plan starts to roll. 

I have decided to call it   Operation: Gridiron.


well, as long as you didn't pull an ''ecolitan'', and try to disguise hamburger as steak, i'd say you're well on your way to success, grasshopper.
you have snatched the pebbles from my hand....
go now

I had to cook a "steak" for someone the other day that consisted of a giant hamburger patty. (at work)
Disgusting, but its what he wanted to eat. I would rather have a real hamburger or a real prime rib or sirloin steak.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 17, 2009, 08:03:28 PM

Update #1 on Operation: Gridiron


Reached my target that was due on March 27th. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: davann on March 18, 2009, 12:23:56 AM
Good luck brask... I have no idea what your plan is. Just wild guesses. Is it a child? The time frame seems to fit, but a wild guess. I voted He will do it! Ether way, you are still my second hero, behind the Christian Anarchist of course.

For Linds, Chicago does have great museums. And I agree with the idea that static weather makes people boring. Chi-town might be great for you. But, there is always a but, as I say at the poker table "it's not the seat, it's the sitter". Meaning, you can make any place your own. Just own it, or in interwebs speak pwnd it.

Again, been drinking. Hope that all came off as nice and not prick like.

I too have a plan. My on going love/hate affair with PX90 is on going. Not going as well as I had wished for, but still going. I plan on by Christmas to be able to show myself on the Show Yourself thread. With six pack abs and all.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on March 18, 2009, 12:34:15 AM
Brasky has two daughters...I'm pretty sure it isn't a child.   :lol:
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 18, 2009, 06:53:44 AM
Good luck brask... I have no idea what your plan is. Just wild guesses. Is it a child? The time frame seems to fit, but a wild guess. I voted He will do it! Ether way, you are still my second hero, behind the Christian Anarchist of course.

For Linds, Chicago does have great museums. And I agree with the idea that static weather makes people boring. Chi-town might be great for you. But, there is always a but, as I say at the poker table "it's not the seat, it's the sitter". Meaning, you can make any place your own. Just own it, or in interwebs speak pwnd it.

Again, been drinking. Hope that all came off as nice and not prick like.

I too have a plan. My on going love/hate affair with PX90 is on going. Not going as well as I had wished for, but still going. I plan on by Christmas to be able to show myself on the Show Yourself thread. With six pack abs and all.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, Davann.  I appreciate the good vibe. 

Good luck with the exercise.  I was talking to a gym rat this weekend, he thinks thats probably the best instructional program out there. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 18, 2009, 04:29:05 PM

Update #2 on Operation: Gridiron


Reached target due on April 10th.  (Good Friday)

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on March 18, 2009, 04:33:10 PM

Update #2 on Operation: Gridiron


Reached target due on April 10th.  (Good Friday)



That's great!

But if you're reaching multiple goals this far ahead of schedule... maybe you should challenge yourself a bit more?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Rillion on March 18, 2009, 05:19:06 PM
I've gained 30 lb. in the past three years.  Thanks, degree program with a highly sedentary and hermetic lifestyle. 

Boyfriend and I plan to lose at least 20 pounds each before the end of the year.  I'd like to aim for more if possible, but I'm not sure what is realistic.  Joy, any recipes you can offer for meals which are filling and nutritious without being high in bad fat would be most welcome....especially if they're easy to make.  I'm planning to hit Whole Foods hardcore soon and load up on quinoa, baby garbonzo beans, brown rice, orzo pasta, stuff like that.  Steamed veggies rock also.  I loves me some steamed broccoli. 

When I lived in Dallas last-- five years ago-- I would get up at 5am four days a week, go to the Y and swim laps or do weights class, come back home and shower, and then go to work and be energetic as hell all day.  I'd love to get back to that, only this time with a healthier diet as well. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on March 18, 2009, 06:04:28 PM
I've gained 30 lb. in the past three years.  Thanks, degree program with a highly sedentary and hermetic lifestyle. 

Boyfriend and I plan to lose at least 20 pounds each before the end of the year.  I'd like to aim for more if possible, but I'm not sure what is realistic.  Joy, any recipes you can offer for meals which are filling and nutritious without being high in bad fat would be most welcome....especially if they're easy to make.  I'm planning to hit Whole Foods hardcore soon and load up on quinoa, baby garbonzo beans, brown rice, orzo pasta, stuff like that.  Steamed veggies rock also.  I loves me some steamed broccoli. 

When I lived in Dallas last-- five years ago-- I would get up at 5am four days a week, go to the Y and swim laps or do weights class, come back home and shower, and then go to work and be energetic as hell all day.  I'd love to get back to that, only this time with a healthier diet as well. 

You're talking about a 2-2.5 pound loss each month, which is a very reasonable goal. You can do that with just moderate changes. Replace a few high calorie foods with healthier choices. Or still indulge in the good stuff (my fave - anything with butter or cream), but have smaller portions. That gets you a long way to your goal - but you already know that, so I'll move on to something more helpful.

I'll pull together a few of my favorite food bloggers in a PM - tomorrow, if I have the chance. A couple of them are also pretty serious about the exercise, so they have an overall healthy approach, not just healthy/delicious food. I have one or two great cookbooks I've either picked up, or put on my wish list, and I'll send those names too.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 18, 2009, 06:46:49 PM

Update #2 on Operation: Gridiron


Reached target due on April 10th.  (Good Friday)



That's great!

But if you're reaching multiple goals this far ahead of schedule... maybe you should challenge yourself a bit more?

Hi.  

They're realistic goals.  I'm outperforming them.  It might average out and slow down.  It might stop completely for a week next time I work midnights.  

I have two real goals, Christmas and August.  These are like mile markers to keep my pace.  Consider it a marathon.  I'm sprinting because the climate is like running on the moon, but I can't expect that to continue.  I need reasonable points to chart my progress.  

If I continue to consistently outperform, thats okay.  August will be June, and Christmas will be August.  

And then I can unleash Phase II of Operation: Gridiron

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on March 18, 2009, 08:36:12 PM

Update #2 on Operation: Gridiron


Reached target due on April 10th.  (Good Friday)



That's great!

But if you're reaching multiple goals this far ahead of schedule... maybe you should challenge yourself a bit more?

Hi.  

They're realistic goals.  I'm outperforming them.  It might average out and slow down.  It might stop completely for a week next time I work midnights.  

I have two real goals, Christmas and August.  These are like mile markers to keep my pace.  Consider it a marathon.  I'm sprinting because the climate is like running on the moon, but I can't expect that to continue.  I need reasonable points to chart my progress.  

If I continue to consistently outperform, thats okay.  August will be June, and Christmas will be August.  

And then I can unleash Phase II of Operation: Gridiron




holy shit dude...
are you (not that you'd be inclined to divulge) a member of S.P.E.C.T.R.E??
maybe you've been effectively hiding the insidious, ..."MUUAHHHAHHAAHHHAHAAAAAHAAA", after your posts (although, there was the cowboyish, not-necessarily-james-bond-alerting...."YEEEEAHHH", in the dow thread)
is there a, DR. NO-type plan???
perhaps,more a GOLDFINGER-esque plan....
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 20, 2009, 08:14:13 PM


holy shit dude...
are you (not that you'd be inclined to divulge) a member of S.P.E.C.T.R.E??
maybe you've been effectively hiding the insidious, ..."MUUAHHHAHHAAHHHAHAAAAAHAAA", after your posts (although, there was the cowboyish, not-necessarily-james-bond-alerting...."YEEEEAHHH", in the dow thread)
is there a, DR. NO-type plan???
perhaps,more a GOLDFINGER-esque plan....

(http://wackyiraqi.com/wtf/tim_the_enchanter.jpg)
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on March 20, 2009, 08:27:56 PM
What, are you scared of a little rabbit then too?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 21, 2009, 04:32:36 AM
What, are you scared of a little rabbit then too?

The symbolism of the rabbit in that piece is arguable. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 21, 2009, 11:06:01 AM

Update #3

Submitted paperwork to turbocharge The Plan. 

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: NuroSlam on March 21, 2009, 11:48:44 AM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

You know Lindsey, I just realized why I don't like Florida. It's the monotony of the weather. And it turns people boring.

Yeah, the weather is not good.  I miss seasons, and I'm in my underwear and a cami right now, and I'm sweating.  I have no idea why.  It's only about 70 degrees here...but that's part of the reason for my goal.  I LIKE Chicago.  I like being up north.  And you're right...it IS boring.  I don't want to be boring! 

I guess I should feel lucky, we have two seasons hot and fucking hot here in the desert of Phoenix
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 21, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

You know Lindsey, I just realized why I don't like Florida. It's the monotony of the weather. And it turns people boring.

Yeah, the weather is not good.  I miss seasons, and I'm in my underwear and a cami right now, and I'm sweating.  I have no idea why.  It's only about 70 degrees here...but that's part of the reason for my goal.  I LIKE Chicago.  I like being up north.  And you're right...it IS boring.  I don't want to be boring! 

I guess I should feel lucky, we have two seasons hot and fucking hot here in the desert of Phoenix

Thats better than cold and fucking cold.  Which is why I ruled out Alaska from my short list. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: NuroSlam on March 21, 2009, 12:23:34 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

You know Lindsey, I just realized why I don't like Florida. It's the monotony of the weather. And it turns people boring.

Yeah, the weather is not good.  I miss seasons, and I'm in my underwear and a cami right now, and I'm sweating.  I have no idea why.  It's only about 70 degrees here...but that's part of the reason for my goal.  I LIKE Chicago.  I like being up north.  And you're right...it IS boring.  I don't want to be boring! 

I guess I should feel lucky, we have two seasons hot and fucking hot here in the desert of Phoenix

Thats better than cold and fucking cold.  Which is why I ruled out Alaska from my short list. 
I though I was ok with hot being from Texas, boy was I wrong. I have lived in the north also, and I must say that I have started a plan to move to NH.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: davann on March 21, 2009, 01:02:51 PM


Thats better than cold and fucking cold.  Which is why I ruled out Alaska from my short list. 

There are parts of Alaska that are not so bad, I'm told, such as Sitka. Still gets cold in winter but not as harsh as the very Northern and middle lower 48.

Then again everything is expensive due to the location remoteness.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on March 21, 2009, 03:32:57 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

You know Lindsey, I just realized why I don't like Florida. It's the monotony of the weather. And it turns people boring.

Yeah, the weather is not good.  I miss seasons, and I'm in my underwear and a cami right now, and I'm sweating.  I have no idea why.  It's only about 70 degrees here...but that's part of the reason for my goal.  I LIKE Chicago.  I like being up north.  And you're right...it IS boring.  I don't want to be boring! 

I guess I should feel lucky, we have two seasons hot and fucking hot here in the desert of Phoenix

but it's a dry heat..........
better than humid-ass + hot
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Rillion on March 21, 2009, 04:47:19 PM
but it's a dry heat..........
better than humid-ass + hot

This is actually true.  Being outside in 90 degree heat in Texas will have me melting in minutes.  But we went hiking outside of Las Vegas in 105 degree heat and felt just fine. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: NuroSlam on March 21, 2009, 05:57:55 PM
Good luck with what ever it is, Brasky.   :D

Also, I have a goal.  It is to move by the end of this year.  To a place far away.  Most people call it Chicago.   :P

Chicago sucks.  Tell Jizzy to leave that horrid place.

Haha.  You ever been to Florida?  It's the worst, man.  Like Brasky said, I need positivity - and Florida is just not it.  People are nasty and rude everywhere, but there's no...life here.  Everyone is old.  I'm young, and I want to...live.  Not just go to work and come home everyday and all of that monotony.  There is literally very little to nothing to do here.  I'm excited because of the plans to move.  I'm excited because I'm finally happy for the first time in a long time.   :D

You know Lindsey, I just realized why I don't like Florida. It's the monotony of the weather. And it turns people boring.

Yeah, the weather is not good.  I miss seasons, and I'm in my underwear and a cami right now, and I'm sweating.  I have no idea why.  It's only about 70 degrees here...but that's part of the reason for my goal.  I LIKE Chicago.  I like being up north.  And you're right...it IS boring.  I don't want to be boring! 

I guess I should feel lucky, we have two seasons hot and fucking hot here in the desert of Phoenix

but it's a dry heat..........
better than humid-ass + hot

So is a microwave oven
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: NuroSlam on March 21, 2009, 05:58:30 PM
but it's a dry heat..........
better than humid-ass + hot

This is actually true.  Being outside in 90 degree heat in Texas will have me melting in minutes.  But we went hiking outside of Las Vegas in 105 degree heat and felt just fine. 

Yea, I hear that a lot, but try 118F
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on March 21, 2009, 10:55:23 PM

Yea, I hear that a lot, but try 118F

ok, nuroman..
riddle me this>>>>.
how many months of the year give you intolerable heat?
how many months of the year can you keep your meat?

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 21, 2009, 11:54:30 PM


Thats better than cold and fucking cold.  Which is why I ruled out Alaska from my short list. 

There are parts of Alaska that are not so bad, I'm told, such as Sitka. Still gets cold in winter but not as harsh as the very Northern and middle lower 48.

Then again everything is expensive due to the location remoteness.

What you need to do is research climatological data, and compare heating degree days.

If a town in Wisconsin hits highs of 82 in the summer, and a town in Alaska hits 74 as a high, that does not mean they are comparable. 

What matters is the number of days the average is below 65. 

In Wisconsin, the average may be below 65 for eight months a year.  In Alaska, the average is below 65 for 11 months, and the lows are much more significant. 

Any Wisconsinite or Michigander who knows his shit would not piffle at the severity of Northern cold, and would be a fool to underestimate a harder, longer climate.

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: NuroSlam on March 22, 2009, 01:27:04 AM

Yea, I hear that a lot, but try 118F

ok, nuroman..
riddle me this>>>>.
how many months of the year give you intolerable heat?
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how many months of the year can you keep your meat?
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Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: davann on March 22, 2009, 10:12:47 AM


Thats better than cold and fucking cold.  Which is why I ruled out Alaska from my short list. 

There are parts of Alaska that are not so bad, I'm told, such as Sitka. Still gets cold in winter but not as harsh as the very Northern and middle lower 48.

Then again everything is expensive due to the location remoteness.

What you need to do is research climatological data, and compare heating degree days.

If a town in Wisconsin hits highs of 82 in the summer, and a town in Alaska hits 74 as a high, that does not mean they are comparable. 

What matters is the number of days the average is below 65. 

In Wisconsin, the average may be below 65 for eight months a year.  In Alaska, the average is below 65 for 11 months, and the lows are much more significant. 

Any Wisconsinite or Michigander who knows his shit would not piffle at the severity of Northern cold, and would be a fool to underestimate a harder, longer climate.


I toyed with the idea of retiring to Alaska pre-FSP. My niece started college in Sitka and she is the one that informed me it was not as bad as Madison, WI. I was merely going off her word and never really investigated the specifics. The area is visually spectacular.

The blood thickens or thins according to the local weather. If 65 is the average high in summer, one would get used to it and it would become comfortable. For me 110 - 118 seems comfortable, but I am in hell when it drops a degree below 50.

Is your plan to become a full time licensed trader?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 22, 2009, 12:08:42 PM


I toyed with the idea of retiring to Alaska pre-FSP. My niece started college in Sitka and she is the one that informed me it was not as bad as Madison, WI. I was merely going off her word and never really investigated the specifics. The area is visually spectacular.

The blood thickens or thins according to the local weather. If 65 is the average high in summer, one would get used to it and it would become comfortable. For me 110 - 118 seems comfortable, but I am in hell when it drops a degree below 50.

Is your plan to become a full time licensed trader?

I like Alaska. 

I work in the energy industry, so I see a lot of data that involves climate.  The primary consideration with climate is how many days a year the average is below 65 F, because you have to spend energy to keep the house warm for normal human comfort.  If the high was 70 and the low was 50, the average would be 60, right?  Thats a difference of -5 from 65. 

They add those days up, every day, and do all sorts of calculations with those numbers.  It translates into the recommended R factor of your insulation and the size of your furnace. 

Since the numbers are in all ways greater in Alaska, that means you need a hardier furnace.  Basically, its like saying you need more horsepower to pull a heavier load.  Which, of course, burns more fuel.  And fuel is money. 

Changing the inside temp from -10 F to 65 F is an adjustment of 75 degrees.  That is some serious BTUs.  They have to do it more days per year in AK, and from lower lows. I don't have the specific heating numbers, but I know just by knowing, they would be significant. 

Naturally, your niece wouldn't think in those terms, most people don't.  She's just a college girl, I wouldn't expect her to do anything but wear warm clothes and turn the thermostat up.  And like most people, she wouldn't be going outside in the more severe lows, when its in the bottom numbers.  But if you were to run those numerical comparisons, you'd most likely see a really big difference. 

--

Licensed trader?  No.  I'm trading my ass off, to be sure.  I haven't tried to disguise or hide that fact.  But I'm just doing it from home, average joe picking the low-hanging fruit.  When I really get the techniques down I'll probably start posting spreadsheets or maybe make a Twittering community if other people are interested in getting out of the rat race.  I'm only making a few trades a week right now, because there are rules to trading.  I just applied for a margin contract so I can pattern day-trade and short.  That should speed things up a bit. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: davann on March 22, 2009, 10:38:04 PM

I work in the energy industry, so I see a lot of data that involves climate. 

That is some serious BTUs. 

Wait, is your work related to natural gas and the flow there of. If so, I bet we may know some of the same people in the industry.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 22, 2009, 11:54:31 PM

I work in the energy industry, so I see a lot of data that involves climate. 

That is some serious BTUs. 

Wait, is your work related to natural gas and the flow there of. If so, I bet we may know some of the same people in the industry.

Ya.  I'm a controller.  You?


I don't know many people, I manage to avoid AGA conferences.  I know a few guys on the phone from Transco and Tennessee, a couple from Columbia.  System operators, and a few field guys.  

It is interesting, though, that there is a small core of guys who do this.  Probably only a few thousand.  Thats why I had more than a passing interest in Alaska at one time, they pay top dollar for controllers in AK, since most normal people would rather not go there.  

Quick story..  Right after I got divorced, my boss jokingly told me he got a call from a recruiter who wanted to pay six-figures for a controller in Alaska.  He said "Nah, nobody here is interested."  I was really pissed.  Where the fuck would I have spent it?  Five years of hazard pay in a barren, desolate, boring-fuck town, I'd be driving a Porsche with mudflaps and woulda probably paid cash for a condo in Hawaii by now.  

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: davann on March 23, 2009, 12:42:07 AM

I work in the energy industry, so I see a lot of data that involves climate. 

That is some serious BTUs. 

Wait, is your work related to natural gas and the flow there of. If so, I bet we may know some of the same people in the industry.

Ya.  I'm a controller.  You?


I don't know many people, I manage to avoid AGA conferences.  I know a few guys on the phone from Transco and Tennessee, a couple from Columbia.  System operators, and a few field guys.  

It is interesting, though, that there is a small core of guys who do this.  Probably only a few thousand.  Thats why I had more than a passing interest in Alaska at one time, they pay top dollar for controllers in AK, since most normal people would rather not go there.  

Quick story..  Right after I got divorced, my boss jokingly told me he got a call from a recruiter who wanted to pay six-figures for a controller in Alaska.  He said "Nah, nobody here is interested."  I was really pissed.  Where the fuck would I have spent it?  Five years of hazard pay in a barren, desolate, boring-fuck town, I'd be driving a Porsche with mudflaps and woulda probably paid cash for a condo in Hawaii by now.  



I work for the local gas company, Southwest Gas Corp. Not as a controller but in Records Administration. Clerical mostly, with a heavy dose of technical and a bit of physical labor worked in there. Nothing that exciting, but it pays the bills. Gas Ops is located right next to my department and I shoot the shit with the manager over there everyday on smoke breaks.

I've thought briefly of transferring to that department as a controller. They would train me and get me up to spec. But the controllers work strange hours. Something like 10 or 12 hour days for three weeks in a row with the fourth week off. The manager explained it a why awhile back. The idea is to have the same person managing the flow for a longer time for better accuracy on the take if I understood him right. Seems to much butt busting for me, I like my 8-5, Monday through Friday.

My side story:
Have you seen the video for the Pepcon incident? (We don't use the word "explosion") SWG was tangled up in court over this for years. What saved them was a guy shooting a porn video that was filming out in the desert and that just happened to have his camera pointed in that direction when the incident took place.  Just one of the hidden benefits of porn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0cEX9ex3U
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: jeffersonish on March 23, 2009, 02:26:39 AM

My side story:
Have you seen the video for the Pepcon incident? (We don't use the word "explosion") SWG was tangled up in court over this for years. What saved them was a guy shooting a porn video that was filming out in the desert and that just happened to have his camera pointed in that direction when the incident took place.  Just one of the hidden benefits of porn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0cEX9ex3U

I saw a show about this explosion on something like the discovery channel. They recreated the explosion using computer modeling to figure out it was basically spontaneous combustion that started it. I believe there was something unique about the arrangement that allowed the explosion to be as huge as it was. They never mentioned porn, but did say the video was caught by people making a movie as memory serves.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on March 23, 2009, 09:38:26 AM
that gas be some scary shit..........
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: davann on March 23, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
that gas be some scary shit..........

Actually, the large explosions were caused by liquid rocket fuel.

Edit:
Come to think about it, I should not be talking about this. Brain fart. Oops. :oops:
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 25, 2009, 08:34:21 PM
Update #4

Paperwork previously mentioned has been processed.  Everythings cool, I'm workin' my mojo.  

On track for late April goal.  I'm having a hard time concentrating on this at work.  Too many distractions, and I find the CNBC trading shows to be helpful because they give insight to the mood of the market.  I like having a live DOW/NASD/S+P ticker and a lot of input regarding sectors and volume.  

Luckily, Thursday is my last full 12 hour day for several weeks and I can work from home every day after Noon.    

Tomorrow's gonna be hot, though.  
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 27, 2009, 08:37:49 PM

Update #whatever.  5, I think. 

Well, you have good days, and you have bad days.  Nothing is ever 100% roses.  I fucked up like three times in a row.  I took a major hit by selling a few days ago, and then it took off right after I sold.  Lost out on a nice couple-hundred bucks.  Then, with those minor losses (I didn't really lose much, but I lost out on a large gain), I bought another fund and it fuckin' flatlined.  Sat on that for a day, it took a little hop and I bailed with slim profits.  Then I got whacked with a two-day margin fee and it ate my profits, plus a hundred bucks.  Then, I bought a fund and it took a shit in todays trading, went sideways all day, and started to tank, so I sold at a loss and it immediately spiked the minute I sold.  Lost out there.  Finally, I bought a long term Bull on the drop today, it should run up on Monday or Tuesday, but now I'm hearing the sector is overbought and ready to capitulate in a profit shedding sell-off, so I might be stuck in it for a few days upside down.  This fuckin sucks.  I'm like 4-0 the last few days, and its eating away at my green in little fucking nibbles. 

Still, I'm 2 weeks ahead. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on March 29, 2009, 04:21:41 AM


My problem is, I'm not sticking to the plan.  Thats sorta the whole point of having a plan, is sticking to it.

I think its because I have these big giant balls. 

Note to self:  Stop striding into battle with nothing but big giant balls.  Big giant balls will get you killed! 

Sage advice. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 03, 2009, 10:05:25 PM

I have found the Holy Grail. 



Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on April 05, 2009, 10:47:59 AM

I have found the Holy Grail. 






is it the shitty wooden one (indiana jones) that jesus made...
or a nice, 24 carat gold , six pounder???....then you'd have something...
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 05, 2009, 11:14:05 AM

I have found the Holy Grail. 






is it the shitty wooden one (indiana jones) that jesus made...
or a nice, 24 carat gold , six pounder???....then you'd have something...

Gold.  Its the shit. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on April 05, 2009, 03:54:13 PM
I thought the "He" in the poll was Obama so I picked "he's a dick and I hope he fucks it up" before reading the OP.
Sorry :P

As for gold... I just got done reading "Guide to investing in gold & silver", which is printed under the "Rich Dad/Poor Dad" collection.
All I can say is... WOW. It's like reading an episode of FTL, except it's the same meme being promulgated by people other than selfdescribed talk show dufuses.

I am no longer thinking about betting against IBM. I think it's a sure bet, but I think the opportunity cost of investing RIGHT FUCKING NOW in anything other than precious metals, is just too great.

And I had been buying ETFs. No more of that for me. Bullion, and Gold Eagles, or nothin'. Stocks I'll buy when they really start tanking.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 05, 2009, 05:19:20 PM
I thought the "He" in the poll was Obama so I picked "he's a dick and I hope he fucks it up" before reading the OP.
Sorry :P

No prob.


As for gold... I just got done reading "Guide to investing in gold & silver", which is printed under the "Rich Dad/Poor Dad" collection.
All I can say is... WOW. It's like reading an episode of FTL, except it's the same meme being promulgated by people other than selfdescribed talk show dufuses.

I am no longer thinking about betting against IBM. I think it's a sure bet, but I think the opportunity cost of investing RIGHT FUCKING NOW in anything other than precious metals, is just too great.

And I had been buying ETFs. No more of that for me. Bullion, and Gold Eagles, or nothin'. Stocks I'll buy when they really start tanking.

Metals are eventually gonna go up.  But they're gonna come down first.  Governments all around the globe are changing their gold plays to capitalize themselves.  They don't have the loose change to play in it - otherwise it would stay high, because its cheap right now, so they SHOULD be buying it.  The private sector is no longer going 'long' in it, hedging against the market.  As both of these groups emerge from their gold hedge, and other investors are making market plays, it deflates, because nobody wants it.  Its not to say "NOBODY" wants it, thats silly, but its a supply-side economic issue, and it will fall. 

GOLD @ 800, DENISGODDARD!! 
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Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on April 05, 2009, 07:22:12 PM
Any thoughts about SPDR GLD vs. getting bars-in-a-vault?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 05, 2009, 07:32:58 PM
Any thoughts about SPDR GLD vs. getting bars-in-a-vault?

No difference to me, right now.  I'm not chicken-little at this moment in time.  However, since gold is falling, you'd be better off getting a gold bear.  (short it with an inverse fund)

http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:GLL

Do the research, set your stops, etc. 

Eventually, when the world is in a pickle, of course I will favor things you can hold in your hand.  In the meanwhile, since this is reality, and the world will probably not collapse tomorrow or the next day, use the ETF's.  Build some wealth as it slides, then roll it over when it begins to bottom or shows signs of a reverse. 

You could do very well with some minor, serious positioning.  Its not hard, especially if you go with the funds that aren't leveraged.  They're very predictable in the medium-range, we're in the Bull stage for the next while.  When it turns, just sell the fucker.  Ride out the little hops and dips, and watch the news like you've always done. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on April 05, 2009, 09:44:46 PM
As for ETFs, I've been watching DBP
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:DBP

I do see a BIG difference between investing in a basket of companies that mine gold, versus... well, gold. That's my current puzzle. I'm figgering on buying GLD or DBP on the dips, then selling and buying bullion bars.

As for "chicken little", at that point I'm looking at gold in my own possession (ie, in a safe deposit box where I have the key & the bank doesn't know what's in the box) versus gold assigned to me in somebody else's vault. But on that score I agree, not today, not next month, not next year. Maybe in 5 years tho...

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on April 05, 2009, 09:56:02 PM
Maybe in 5 years tho...
The right time to buy would have been 5 years ago.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 05, 2009, 11:18:11 PM
As for ETFs, I've been watching DBP
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:DBP

I do see a BIG difference between investing in a basket of companies that mine gold, versus... well, gold. That's my current puzzle. I'm figgering on buying GLD or DBP on the dips, then selling and buying bullion bars.

As for "chicken little", at that point I'm looking at gold in my own possession (ie, in a safe deposit box where I have the key & the bank doesn't know what's in the box) versus gold assigned to me in somebody else's vault. But on that score I agree, not today, not next month, not next year. Maybe in 5 years tho...



Yeah.  BTW, I'm not saying chicken little to be insulting.  I just don't have that vibe right now. 

I think safe depository boxes would be a bad idea when the shit hits the fan.  A better idea would be some creative masonry work. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on April 06, 2009, 09:11:00 AM
I think safe depository boxes would be a bad idea when the shit hits the fan.  A better idea would be some creative masonry work. 
I don't think it's going to hit THAT bad... and if I start to get that vibe, I go to the bank and get my, um.... baby pictures, yeah, from the safe deposit box.
First is owning the stuff. THEN comes "in what form", and that's what I'm trying to figure out in the next 2-3 days -- ETF, SPDR GLD, golden eagles, maple leafs, etc.

The real honest question I'm trying to figger is ETF-paper, vs physical metal.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 06, 2009, 11:02:11 AM
I think safe depository boxes would be a bad idea when the shit hits the fan.  A better idea would be some creative masonry work. 
I don't think it's going to hit THAT bad... and if I start to get that vibe, I go to the bank and get my, um.... baby pictures, yeah, from the safe deposit box.
First is owning the stuff. THEN comes "in what form", and that's what I'm trying to figure out in the next 2-3 days -- ETF, SPDR GLD, golden eagles, maple leafs, etc.

The real honest question I'm trying to figger is ETF-paper, vs physical metal.

I think you have more flexibility and options with the ETF's.  You don't have to day-trade them, but you can buy low and sell high over a period of time, increasing your position with house money. 

If you put a dollar into physical metals, your dollar is in it, and it flexes to the market price.  If you put your dollar into ETF's, you can jump out on the highs, and re-enter on the lows, which is the trading-for-dummies theory.  Over time, your dollar may be worth two dollars by pattern trading, even if gold is in the same exact position as when you started.  Thus, you'd own two ounces, as opposed to the one ounce you purchased at the current price. 

Eventually, when you buy the physical metal, I'd buy 1/10 rounds.  Doesn't really matter which kind. 

I'm pretty sure, even though I haven't honestly looked into it, you can go through the online brokers and buy like a piggy-bank with an online account.  Throw a hundred bucks here, a hundred bucks there, at the low market prices, and they credit it to your holding account.  When you've built up a nice position, you can hit the "gimme" button and they mail you your physical gold.  Its good for people who are normal folk, to build a position.  Most can't part with $900 in one shot and stick it in their sock drawer for doomsday.   

Thats what I'd do.  When I'm better off, thats the angle I'm gonna investigate unless I find a better one. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on April 06, 2009, 11:04:57 AM
Thanks Brasky. You're a voice of reason I bounce ideas against.
It's not what I'm going with, due to the particularities of my situation, but it's close.

I'll post here once everything's a done deal.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 06, 2009, 11:42:47 AM

Good luck. 

I think the important part here, regardless of the specific actions, is to get people to think of their options.  There are a lot of creative solutions out there and a lot of opportunities.  What infuriates me is people buying into the fear factor and buying blindly.  Gold fever is very real here, in this forum.  People think its bulletproof, and they drink the koolaid.  They're out seeking coins in pawn shops, and when it all shakes out, a little here and a little there, they're gonna pay $2000 an ounce.  How is that helpful to people who want to position themselves for a little security in an emergency?  Its damaging. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on April 09, 2009, 01:53:13 AM
My plan:

Work at my current job (line cook) full time over the summer. Then at the end of the summer, move, recoup, plan.

Possibilities for moving:

Sublet at GF's Fathers' House

Move to town used to attend college at.

Move to GF's college town

Move to NH

I'm leaning towards GF's fathers' place for a while, then life has settled down a bit, NH.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: atomiccat on April 09, 2009, 03:28:39 AM
can you move in with your GF and share rent?, unless you don't plan on staying with your Girl friend for a long time or maybe talk her into going to NH
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 09, 2009, 11:22:00 AM


I'm leaning towards GF's fathers' place for a while, then life has settled down a bit, NH.

Any thoughts?

I think this is probably your best direction,-- if your life and the people in it are relatively normal.  If your daily life is reasonably stable.  Living with people you're tight with is always a good place to be, if you KNOW its not gonna turn out fucked up in a few months.  But its gotta be a slam-dunk, it can't be a gamble. 

If you have a burning desire to get out there and party like a fuckinasshole, fuck chicks, disappear for days..  then you should probably do it with your buddies. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on April 09, 2009, 01:20:50 PM
My plan is GTFO as soon as humanly possible.   :x
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on April 09, 2009, 02:06:01 PM
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can you move in with your GF and share rent?

She'll be in a dorm next year so, no. Then she's studying to be a doctor so she'll be sitting tight for awhile.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: jeffersonish on April 12, 2009, 02:37:31 AM
I thought the "He" in the poll was Obama so I picked "he's a dick and I hope he fucks it up" before reading the OP.
Sorry :P

No prob.


As for gold... I just got done reading "Guide to investing in gold & silver", which is printed under the "Rich Dad/Poor Dad" collection.
All I can say is... WOW. It's like reading an episode of FTL, except it's the same meme being promulgated by people other than selfdescribed talk show dufuses.

I am no longer thinking about betting against IBM. I think it's a sure bet, but I think the opportunity cost of investing RIGHT FUCKING NOW in anything other than precious metals, is just too great.

And I had been buying ETFs. No more of that for me. Bullion, and Gold Eagles, or nothin'. Stocks I'll buy when they really start tanking.

Metals are eventually gonna go up.  But they're gonna come down first.  Governments all around the globe are changing their gold plays to capitalize themselves.  They don't have the loose change to play in it - otherwise it would stay high, because its cheap right now, so they SHOULD be buying it.  The private sector is no longer going 'long' in it, hedging against the market.  As both of these groups emerge from their gold hedge, and other investors are making market plays, it deflates, because nobody wants it.  Its not to say "NOBODY" wants it, thats silly, but its a supply-side economic issue, and it will fall. 

GOLD @ 800, DENISGODDARD!! 
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I heard something in passing and it keeps nagging at me... I Forget where I heard it, but someone on tv was saying central banks are selling right now to keep prices reasonable because it's a panic trigger if people see gold double in price. I think that will only work for so long and sooner or later their willingness to play that game will flag, inflation will be hittng, and gold is gonna go up. That's why I have some long term gold options. Now that the price is down a bit I'm buying some more and if it drops again, I'll buy some more. Basically, I'm betting that gold will go over $950/oz. sometime before 2011. I suspect it will be in a few months and I'm thinking 1200 will be be pretty easy. With my leverage, that would be a 100% gain. A price of 1500/oz. would mean a 220% gain... and that's on my highest priced options of 3 I might hold.

Another idea regarding market manipulation... maybe they're flooding the market to keep prices low while they buy some up for their personal accounts, then they'll stop using government gold to flood the market, prices will go up quickly, that will lead to a panic buy session, pushing prices way up very fast at which point they will sell their personal stakes at a tidy profit before the market settled down below that level. I don't really think this is what is going on, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like it actually is.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on April 12, 2009, 08:47:43 AM
A price of 1500/oz.
Is on the low end of what I am betting we'll see within 5 years.
And silver is an even better prospect. Much better. I'm weighting at least 60% into silver. Maybe more.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 14, 2009, 05:48:13 AM
I thought the "He" in the poll was Obama so I picked "he's a dick and I hope he fucks it up" before reading the OP.
Sorry :P

No prob.


As for gold... I just got done reading "Guide to investing in gold & silver", which is printed under the "Rich Dad/Poor Dad" collection.
All I can say is... WOW. It's like reading an episode of FTL, except it's the same meme being promulgated by people other than selfdescribed talk show dufuses.

I am no longer thinking about betting against IBM. I think it's a sure bet, but I think the opportunity cost of investing RIGHT FUCKING NOW in anything other than precious metals, is just too great.

And I had been buying ETFs. No more of that for me. Bullion, and Gold Eagles, or nothin'. Stocks I'll buy when they really start tanking.

Metals are eventually gonna go up.  But they're gonna come down first.  Governments all around the globe are changing their gold plays to capitalize themselves.  They don't have the loose change to play in it - otherwise it would stay high, because its cheap right now, so they SHOULD be buying it.  The private sector is no longer going 'long' in it, hedging against the market.  As both of these groups emerge from their gold hedge, and other investors are making market plays, it deflates, because nobody wants it.  Its not to say "NOBODY" wants it, thats silly, but its a supply-side economic issue, and it will fall. 

GOLD @ 800, DENISGODDARD!! 
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I heard something in passing and it keeps nagging at me... I Forget where I heard it, but someone on tv was saying central banks are selling right now to keep prices reasonable because it's a panic trigger if people see gold double in price. I think that will only work for so long and sooner or later their willingness to play that game will flag, inflation will be hittng, and gold is gonna go up. That's why I have some long term gold options. Now that the price is down a bit I'm buying some more and if it drops again, I'll buy some more. Basically, I'm betting that gold will go over $950/oz. sometime before 2011. I suspect it will be in a few months and I'm thinking 1200 will be be pretty easy. With my leverage, that would be a 100% gain. A price of 1500/oz. would mean a 220% gain... and that's on my highest priced options of 3 I might hold.

Another idea regarding market manipulation... maybe they're flooding the market to keep prices low while they buy some up for their personal accounts, then they'll stop using government gold to flood the market, prices will go up quickly, that will lead to a panic buy session, pushing prices way up very fast at which point they will sell their personal stakes at a tidy profit before the market settled down below that level. I don't really think this is what is going on, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like it actually is.

Banks are not known for selling investments that will be worth substantially more in the near future. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: jeffersonish on April 15, 2009, 12:57:43 AM
I heard something in passing and it keeps nagging at me... I Forget where I heard it, but someone on tv was saying central banks are selling right now to keep prices reasonable because it's a panic trigger if people see gold double in price. I think that will only work for so long and sooner or later their willingness to play that game will flag, inflation will be hittng, and gold is gonna go up. That's why I have some long term gold options. Now that the price is down a bit I'm buying some more and if it drops again, I'll buy some more. Basically, I'm betting that gold will go over $950/oz. sometime before 2011. I suspect it will be in a few months and I'm thinking 1200 will be be pretty easy. With my leverage, that would be a 100% gain. A price of 1500/oz. would mean a 220% gain... and that's on my highest priced options of 3 I might hold.

Another idea regarding market manipulation... maybe they're flooding the market to keep prices low while they buy some up for their personal accounts, then they'll stop using government gold to flood the market, prices will go up quickly, that will lead to a panic buy session, pushing prices way up very fast at which point they will sell their personal stakes at a tidy profit before the market settled down below that level. I don't really think this is what is going on, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like it actually is.

Banks are not known for selling investments that will be worth substantially more in the near future. 

If their entire business model (fiat money) is at risk, they might. A lot of people view the price of gold as an indicator that the banking system is in trouble and when a run begins, they have to print more money which devalues their other holdings.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 08, 2009, 01:56:01 PM
On target for May 8th.

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on May 08, 2009, 02:40:38 PM
On target for May 8th.
What? ... did I miss the memo?

I'm on target for May 28th, but y'all don't know about that
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 08, 2009, 02:51:18 PM
On target for May 8th.
What? ... did I miss the memo?

I'm on target for May 28th, but y'all don't know about that

Nah, just haven't updated in a while.  I was way ahead for a while, then screwed the pooch in one deal, and decided to sit-a-spell and watch all the confusion of earnings releases settle out. 

This earnings stuff is very unpredictable, good is bad, up is down.  Makes no sense. 

Congrats on May 28th, whatever that is.  Going on vacation or something?

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on May 08, 2009, 09:58:17 PM
Congrats on May 28th, whatever that is.  Going on vacation or something?
Closing on a house.

Previous owner was a doctor who was in debt way over his head. Dumbasses go into debt for med school, then proceed to live way beyond their means despite earning six figures. Eventually they gotta sell the house in a panic, and take a painful haircut in the process. Oh well, them's the breaks, Doc!

We'll probably move mid-July. No sense rushing.

We got a nice big home, a separate room for each of the children, for visiting parents, and a separate office for me (very important since I work from home most days, and for 10+ hours per day), 7 acres of land. The kicker? The organizer of Liberty Forum will be one of our town selectmen. Sweet!

This is a big part of why I liquidated the tech stocks a few weeks ago -- needed cash for the down payment, as well as for the precious metals. We're putting quite a bit down so we'll have a mortgage we can comfortably pay for a long time, even if my salary were to dry up (which I don't expect to happen, but always include as a contingency in The Plan).

Next phase: wait for gold and silver to go back down, snatch up some more.
Then wait for tech stocks to rocket again, once all this bullshit about sun passes. Somewhere in the 12-24 months timeframe. Then do a same-day sale, and put the proceeds into... yeah, you guessed it, Real Money (tm).
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And copper-jacketed lead.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 08, 2009, 10:17:54 PM

Way to go Denis.  I'm happy for you, the wife and kids must be jazzed. 

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: jeffersonish on May 09, 2009, 01:55:13 PM
There's a bottle of champagne in my fridge for ya Goddard!
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on May 09, 2009, 02:13:42 PM
We got a nice big home, a separate room for each of the children, for visiting parents, and a separate office for me (very important since I work from home most days, and for 10+ hours per day), 7 acres of land. The kicker? The organizer of Liberty Forum will be one of our town selectmen. Sweet!
I only see one house in that town with 7 acres of land. Is the house brown with a red door?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on May 27, 2009, 01:06:55 PM
We got a nice big home, a separate room for each of the children, for visiting parents, and a separate office for me (very important since I work from home most days, and for 10+ hours per day), 7 acres of land. The kicker? The organizer of Liberty Forum will be one of our town selectmen. Sweet!
I only see one house in that town with 7 acres of land. Is the house brown with a red door?
I knew I could count on you for the creepy obsessive googlemap, John :D
757 Penacook road, Hopkinton, NH
When you surveil, I'll save you some time by noting that the new hybrid Honda Civic is mine, just picked it up this week. Got a great deal on a showroom model.

Now back to the topic of the thread.... WTF?!?!
Stocks are going back up (NASDQ, as expected) but GLD and SLV are still way up. SLV is spiking. Damn! I need hose to go down at least for a few days...
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 27, 2009, 06:18:14 PM
It looks like both are breaking to the downside after today.  There was a big rabble on bonds today, now it's old news, the market will absorb it and metals were running up to it on apprehension.  Its a fade after this.  Oil is finding resistance, too, which will slowly weep money out of the metals, no more hedge or fear trade for now.  Until the next plunge, which will have to be significant consolidation to raise metals.  Short interest will start to appear in metals again, banging it down. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on May 27, 2009, 06:27:12 PM
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/prayer/prestonloyd.asp

Not to have that happen to me, thats my plan. Kid gets run over by lawn mower, esophagus is now connected to his rectum.

I wasnt aware that was even possible.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on May 27, 2009, 06:28:29 PM
(http://www.theholisticcare.com/cure%20diseases/Images/Constipation/digestive_system-Esophagus-Colon-Rectum-Jejunum.jpg)

Look at how many organs are in the way for that to happen!
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on May 27, 2009, 08:35:35 PM
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/prayer/prestonloyd.asp

Not to have that happen to me, thats my plan. Kid gets run over by lawn mower, esophagus is now connected to his rectum.

an aquaintance/customer had her 8 yr old daughter die, when her scarf got caught in the snowblower...she was in a coma for a month, then died. (@ 1 yr ago, right before christmas)
horrible shit can happen to kids, with motorized mayhem about..
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on June 17, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
Updates to my plans!
I havent been active much on this site much due to being so busy and internet connection problems.
I moved into my gf's place according to plan, but much earlier than expected and in a great hurry.
I've got my own car.
Now I'm starting a business, I will be selling home, personal and business security products. Cameras (some great hidden ones), DVR systems, audio recorders, bug detectors, alarms, pepper spray, diversion safes, knives, etc. I'd sell tasers/stun guns too but I can't while living in WI (I dont want felony charges). Should be good. That's all offline to start with though perhaps I'll move it to online too when I get the internet issues worked out.

=anarchir=
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on June 17, 2009, 09:03:50 PM
Now I'm starting a business, I will be selling home, personal and business security products.
Cool    8)


When is the move to NH?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on June 18, 2009, 02:33:39 AM
Now I'm starting a business, I will be selling home, personal and business security products.
Cool    8)


When is the move to NH?

Not for awhile.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: One two three on June 18, 2009, 04:16:44 AM
Goal:
My goal is to recruit 20 folks to become FSP participants.  I'm already in double digits.

Overall Plan:
My plan is to spread the word at rest areas, schools and libraries around New England.  I plan to distribute FSP flyers, FSP bookmarks, and FTL flyers.

Already done:
I've already started.  Over the last couple days I distributed 200 FSP bookmarks, and a total of 200 FSP flyers and FTL flyers in VT.  I hit up 2 Burlington area libraries and the 2 rest areas near Burlington. 

Next step in the plan:
Place a total of 100 FSP bookmarks in 2 VT rest areas on the way to and from Porcfest.

Additional future plans:
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on June 18, 2009, 12:32:10 PM
An update to my earlier post: the Discovery Channel will not be picking up my reality show pitch. This is a bummer.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on June 18, 2009, 03:34:47 PM
If there is so much info being put out about the FSP, how come I had to research it myself after listening to FTL for a bit? I've never been contacted about the FSP and I guarantee everyone I know has never even heard of it.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: One two three on June 18, 2009, 03:53:36 PM
If there is so much info being put out about the FSP, how come I had to research it myself after listening to FTL for a bit? I've never been contacted about the FSP and I guarantee everyone I know has never even heard of it.

I think this is off topic so don't be surprised if we are deleted.  Maybe only 5-10 million or so have heard of the FSP.  Most of those folks have only heard of it once and they likely forgot about it.  Since there are billions of folks, 5-10 million isn't many.  However, if you have been involved with the national freedom movement for a few years, chances are you have heard of the FSP.

Maybe you should make a Plan on how to spread the message where you live or something?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on July 27, 2009, 04:23:48 AM
Plans:
Continue Day Job.
Finish Web Site
Start Up Biz
Sell Product
Finish Anarchist Essay
Invest In Stock Market
Move Housing Situation
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on July 27, 2009, 04:00:07 PM
If there is so much info being put out about the FSP, how come I had to research it myself after listening to FTL for a bit? I've never been contacted about the FSP and I guarantee everyone I know has never even heard of it.

I think this is off topic so don't be surprised if we are deleted. 

I don't have any reason to do that.



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33 days to go.

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on July 27, 2009, 04:48:45 PM
My current plan:

1 - purchase several pounds of fresh blueberries, plums, and apples, along with a bag of sugar and a few savory ingredients.
2 - spend a day stirring pots of various combos of above substances, before placing in jars and sealing.
3 - enjoy the hell out of blueberry/apple jam, spiced plum preserves and spicy blueberry chutney with breakfasts, on sandwiches and with cheese.

Optional step 4:
Send jars to friends and family, so as to avoid eating all of it myself and gaining two stone.

I'm currently back on step two, as the jars of blueberry/apple jam were my test case last week. After trying the final product on cornmeal waffles, I added the potential fourth step. It's not safe to keep too much close at hand.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Andy on July 27, 2009, 05:09:21 PM
Get up in time to go to class.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: davann on July 27, 2009, 06:47:49 PM
My current plan:

1 - purchase several pounds of fresh blueberries, plums, and apples, along with a bag of sugar and a few savory ingredients.
2 - spend a day stirring pots of various combos of above substances, before placing in jars and sealing.
3 - enjoy the hell out of blueberry/apple jam, spiced plum preserves and spicy blueberry chutney with breakfasts, on sandwiches and with cheese.

Optional step 4:
Send jars to friends and family, so as to avoid eating all of it myself and gaining two stone.

I'm currently back on step two, as the jars of blueberry/apple jam were my test case last week. After trying the final product on cornmeal waffles, I added the potential fourth step. It's not safe to keep too much close at hand.

Now thats a plan I could get behind.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on July 27, 2009, 06:58:13 PM
Watch Ferris Bueller's Day Off and work on my website whilst waiting for my GF to awaken and then I'm hoping to get some Chinese food cuz I'm hungry.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on July 27, 2009, 11:03:40 PM
My current plan:

1 - purchase several pounds of fresh blueberries, plums, and apples, along with a bag of sugar and a few savory ingredients.
2 - spend a day stirring pots of various combos of above substances, before placing in jars and sealing.
3 - enjoy the hell out of blueberry/apple jam, spiced plum preserves and spicy blueberry chutney with breakfasts, on sandwiches and with cheese.

Optional step 4:
Send jars to friends and family, so as to avoid eating all of it myself and gaining two stone.

I'm currently back on step two, as the jars of blueberry/apple jam were my test case last week. After trying the final product on cornmeal waffles, I added the potential fourth step. It's not safe to keep too much close at hand.

The big blackberries are probably out down there. 

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on July 27, 2009, 11:45:30 PM
My plan is coming along nicely.  On Friday night I did a phone interview with an RM in Illinois who handles a couple of the stores in the area I want to relocate to.  She will be passing my info along to the other RM that handles the rest of the stores in the area, and will be touching base with me this week.  Now I'm just waiting for something to quit/get canned/transfer/kick the bucket/etc. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Andy on July 28, 2009, 05:50:53 AM
Get up in time to go to class.

I'd like to report success, one down 47 to go.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on July 31, 2009, 08:51:11 AM
My current plan:

1 - purchase several pounds of fresh blueberries, plums, and apples, along with a bag of sugar and a few savory ingredients.
2 - spend a day stirring pots of various combos of above substances, before placing in jars and sealing.
3 - enjoy the hell out of blueberry/apple jam, spiced plum preserves and spicy blueberry chutney with breakfasts, on sandwiches and with cheese.

Optional step 4:
Send jars to friends and family, so as to avoid eating all of it myself and gaining two stone.

I'm currently back on step two, as the jars of blueberry/apple jam were my test case last week. After trying the final product on cornmeal waffles, I added the potential fourth step. It's not safe to keep too much close at hand.

Step 3 going quite well.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SaqwbscCzYU/SnI9_gMmG7I/AAAAAAAABeI/DlVtAw_PRpg/s320/chutney_snacky_supper.jpg)
Will be moving back to step 1 in a week or so, probably with different fruit. And, I'd like to make some of the spicy corn relish my Gran always kept in the fridge.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on July 31, 2009, 10:16:27 PM
Om nom nom that looks good.

My plans have changed yet again. My landlord (aka GF's father) apparently has huge problems. Namely using a months worth of hard-core prescription pain meds in the first week and then going crazy for more after that...and that was after he called the police on his ex-wife and had her arrested (who then had to detain and question everyone who lived in the house, including me), blamed me for it somehow, kicked me and my girlfriend out of the house, tried getting physical with me, simultaneously begged my girlfriend to try and get him some pain killers and disown her...chaos.

Now I live with my girlfriend's mom, my stuff is all in storage and jumbled up in boxes, and work on my business has ground to a halt.  :|
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 01, 2009, 12:04:58 AM
You said he was really cool. 

I smelled disaster on that one.

The post in the other thread doesn't fit this fucked-up situation. 

---

You need to get the fuck out of GF's mommas house immediately.

Rent a place in the college part of town for 500/mo.  Eat noodles and sleep on the couch if you have to. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on August 01, 2009, 09:22:17 AM

Now I live with my girlfriend's mom,


is she hot?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on August 02, 2009, 12:22:59 AM

Now I live with my girlfriend's mom,
is she hot?

No.

Quote
You said he was really cool.

I smelled disaster on that one.

The post in the other thread doesn't fit this fucked-up situation.

---

You need to get the fuck out of GF's mommas house immediately.

Rent a place in the college part of town for 500/mo.  Eat noodles and sleep on the couch if you have to. 

I wish I wasnt so naive to as fell into that trap. Its like my whole situation completely flipped around. Unfortunately this isn't a college town so all the housing is expensive.
I'm crossing my fingers I can rustle up some sort of arrangement with a bunch of other people needing room-mates.  Living situation wise this would have to be the worst I have ever been in. If it wasnt for my girlfriend I would just find somewhere to bum around, but I havent convinced her yet to no longer feel any responsibility towards her parents.

On the plus side, it gives me one more reason to drop this state and get to NH.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 02, 2009, 01:05:03 AM


I wish I wasnt so naive to as fell into that trap. Its like my whole situation completely flipped around. Unfortunately this isn't a college town so all the housing is expensive.
I'm crossing my fingers I can rustle up some sort of arrangement with a bunch of other people needing room-mates.  Living situation wise this would have to be the worst I have ever been in. If it wasnt for my girlfriend I would just find somewhere to bum around, but I havent convinced her yet to no longer feel any responsibility towards her parents.

On the plus side, it gives me one more reason to drop this state and get to NH.

Most people feel some sort of connection towards their parents, they're just wired that way.  She's not gonna be "convinced", and you shouldn't try to convince her.  IF (big if..) you ever hook up permanently, maybe your criticisms will hold some validity.  The only appropriate action for you, right now, is to accept their flaws and avoid contact.  You can't make her choose, those things are her private business and parental relationships have to run their course.  You have to stand on your own ground, and if she keeps going back for more, thats her decision. 

But I will tell you, relationships where there is a rift between you and her parents can be difficult. 

And as far as moving to NH, you should only do that for positive reasons, not because there are negative things to escape.  Wherever you go, and whatever you do, it should tally up to what benefits your situation to the best degree.  It sounds personally motivated, because it is.  Be greedy with your life, its yours.  If NH fits that description, fine, so be it.  But you might be in for a rough time, if your current situation doesn't provide enough dough to get a floppy apartment in the cheap end of town.  (all towns have cheap pads, save the bull for the naive).  I wouldn't expect NH to be the land of milk and honey, your employment value is identical in both places. 

These things go in steps.  Get your legs under you, then think about your next move.  Relying on the kindness of others has ways of backfiring in your face.  In your own place, you pay your freight and answer to nobody.  Sharing quarters with GF's mom, you're screwed if you get in a squabble. 

I hope it works out for you, but my advice would be to work your ass off, save all your money for a month or two, and blow out of there. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on August 03, 2009, 02:51:45 PM
I'm house sitting my parents place for a week, then either right then into an apartment or staying at that place till the other apartment option is free in Sept.

Yay!
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 03, 2009, 03:51:24 PM
Good move.

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on August 03, 2009, 04:06:01 PM
I haven't been on the BBS much lately. Update time.

33 days to go.
Till what?

an RM in Illinois who handles a couple of the stores in the area I want to relocate to.
Standard question: why you gotta be Ill'in? If you're going to move, how about NH?

As for my plan: doing good so far. House purchased. Move made. Many workers now in house doing plumbing, carpentry, etc. Yesterday I finally had a fully functioning bathroom/shower/sink all in the same room. The master bathroom is still being worked on though.

View from my desk: acres of woods, with the Contoocook River just visible at the end. All private property (mine), up to the river. Sweet.

Next phase of plan happens when tech stocks (especially the one I work for & have oodles of shares in) break on the big upside, which I expect to be this winter. Partially for market reasons (stimulus sugar-high), partially because of a big release. At that point it's time for another round of sell-paper-stocks-and-invest-in-physical-vaulted-Ag-and-Au, and beef up the ETF. Stick more into international BRIC stocks as well - possibly with EuroPac, unless Peter Schiff actually wins his Senate race, in which case he won't have time to run his business and so I won't invest in it.

By the way, Brasky, you were right about AGQ, they shed value just as you predicted. Oh well, I'm buying more on the dips, with a 2-5 year horizon, during which I expect big big big upside as USD goes to SHTF.

When USD does the D2Z, withdraw the metals and use it to buy rental properties on the cheap. That should set us up good for when the economy eventually recovers.

As always, this is not investment advice, I am not a licensed anything, and I am probably drunk.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on August 03, 2009, 04:20:43 PM
Good move.
Thanks.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 03, 2009, 04:34:57 PM
I haven't been on the BBS much lately. Update time.

33 days to go.
Till what?

Sept 1st. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 03, 2009, 04:54:39 PM
Congrats on the house Denis.  I'm happy for you.

As far as leveraged decay goes, 2-5 years is kinda long.  They re-set over night, and mirror daily percentage returns x2.  I'm a math fail, so its kinda hard for me to describe with technical accuracy, but here goes...

If a stock is worth $100, and loses 1%, it is now worth $99, right? 

When the daily gain on that $99 is 1%, you only recover 99c.  Thus, your gain must be 1.01% to recover a 1% loss.  As they go up and down in daily activity over a long period of time, that really starts to play on the numbers.  Thats decay.  And in a 2x, its more pronounced. 

You stand to make more than you lose, so its all good.  But you can really see a droop in very long charts.  Its worth it to reposition yourself if they are losing buckets in a several day slump.  I know you don't like to day trade, but if the talking heads talk about a significant factor thats causing a large market trend in the wrong direction, like oil falling through the floor, you may want to consider making a readjustment until a new low is bottomed. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 03, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
I haven't been on the BBS much lately. Update time.

33 days to go.
Till what?

an RM in Illinois who handles a couple of the stores in the area I want to relocate to.
Standard question: why you gotta be Ill'in? If you're going to move, how about NH?

As for my plan: doing good so far. House purchased. Move made. Many workers now in house doing plumbing, carpentry, etc. Yesterday I finally had a fully functioning bathroom/shower/sink all in the same room. The master bathroom is still being worked on though.

View from my desk: acres of woods, with the Contoocook River just visible at the end. All private property (mine), up to the river. Sweet.

Next phase of plan happens when tech stocks (especially the one I work for & have oodles of shares in) break on the big upside, which I expect to be this winter. Partially for market reasons (stimulus sugar-high), partially because of a big release. At that point it's time for another round of sell-paper-stocks-and-invest-in-physical-vaulted-Ag-and-Au, and beef up the ETF. Stick more into international BRIC stocks as well - possibly with EuroPac, unless Peter Schiff actually wins his Senate race, in which case he won't have time to run his business and so I won't invest in it.

By the way, Brasky, you were right about AGQ, they shed value just as you predicted. Oh well, I'm buying more on the dips, with a 2-5 year horizon, during which I expect big big big upside as USD goes to SHTF.

When USD does the D2Z, withdraw the metals and use it to buy rental properties on the cheap. That should set us up good for when the economy eventually recovers.

As always, this is not investment advice, I am not a licensed anything, and I am probably drunk.

I have absolutely no desire to live in New Hampshire.  Also, the person I'm moving to be with has absolutely no desire to be in New Hampshire.

Congrats on the house, man. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 03, 2009, 07:49:27 PM
I have no idea why you'd want to live in Illinois.  I'd rather live in California than there.  I'd rather live in Florida than there.  I'd rather live in NH than there.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 03, 2009, 08:07:42 PM
I have no idea why you'd want to live in Illinois.  I'd rather live in California than there.  I'd rather live in Florida than there.  I'd rather live in NH than there.

Well, my boyfriend - the lovely and outstanding Mr. Lindsey happens to live, work, and go to school there.  I live in Florida.  I would REALLY like to be in the same state as my boyfriend now. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 03, 2009, 08:11:39 PM
California blows! It's full of hippies and snobby asswipes and the rest are burnouts. No, thank you...
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 03, 2009, 08:13:11 PM
California blows! It's full of hippies and snobby asswipes and the rest are burnouts. No, thank you...
At least we have nice weather, ocean, and nice mountains to complement our retarded government.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 03, 2009, 08:13:51 PM
California blows! It's full of hippies and snobby asswipes and the rest are burnouts. No, thank you...
At least we have nice weather, ocean, and nice mountains to complement our retarded government.

Haha. Very true.  :P
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 03, 2009, 08:23:40 PM
Here's my plan:

Arrive at Sarasota Bradenton airport, take the SCAT bus, meet Lindsey.

(http://www.leisurelimo.com/Sarasota-Bradenton-International-Airport.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1317/1022600217_91739daad5.jpg?v=0)
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 03, 2009, 08:27:18 PM
Is it seriously called the SCAT bus?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 03, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
Is it seriously called the SCAT bus?

Yes, and he's crazy.  In lieu of me picking him up at the airport (13 miles north of my work), he'd like to ride THE FUCKING SCAT BUS. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 03, 2009, 09:23:28 PM
I love Florida. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on August 03, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
If a stock is worth $100, and loses 1%, it is now worth $99, right? 
When the daily gain on that $99 is 1%, you only recover 99c.  Thus, your gain must be 1.01% to recover a 1% loss.  As they go up and down in daily activity over a long period of time, that really starts to play on the numbers.  Thats decay
Thanks, that makes sense.

take the SCAT bus, meet Lindsey.
You wrote me a letter just the other day
Said, "Springtime is coming soon so why don't you come to stay."
I packed my stuff, got on the bus, I can't believe it's true
I'm three days from New York City and I'm three days from you

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/they-might-be-giants/new-york-city.html
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on August 03, 2009, 09:37:15 PM
If a stock is worth $100, and loses 1%, it is now worth $99, right? 
When the daily gain on that $99 is 1%, you only recover 99c.  Thus, your gain must be 1.01% to recover a 1% loss.  As they go up and down in daily activity over a long period of time, that really starts to play on the numbers.  Thats decay
Thanks, that makes sense.

take the SCAT bus, meet Lindsey.
You wrote me a letter just the other day
Said, "Springtime is coming soon so why don't you come to stay."
I packed my stuff, got on the bus, I can't believe it's true
I'm three days from New York City and I'm three days from you

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/they-might-be-giants/new-york-city.html


TMBG is so much fun.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 03, 2009, 09:49:44 PM
I love Florida. 

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 03, 2009, 09:54:48 PM
I love Florida. 

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 03, 2009, 10:07:57 PM
I love Florida. 

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt. 

Hahaha!  :lol:
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on August 04, 2009, 10:36:13 PM
I love Florida. 

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt. 

i'm afraid, my friend, there simply is no way to make that request without gay....
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 04, 2009, 10:40:51 PM
I love Florida. 

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt. 

i'm afraid, my friend, there simply is no way to make that request without gay....

I think you may be correct.  I hate the fact that he wants to ride the SCAT bus, instead of letting me pick him up from the 'port. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on August 04, 2009, 10:43:30 PM

i'm afraid, my friend, there simply is no way to make that request without gay....

I think you may be correct.  I hate the fact that he wants to ride the SCAT bus, instead of letting me pick him up from the 'port. 
[/quote]


gay guys MUST be running the transit system
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 04, 2009, 10:48:58 PM
I love Florida.  

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt.  

i'm afraid, my friend, there simply is no way to make that request without gay....

I think you may be correct.  I hate the fact that he wants to ride the SCAT bus, instead of letting me pick him up from the 'port.  

But that means you'd have to pull strings to get time off of work and all that bullshit. Ask joe employee this and that...
I'm taking the bus to save you a pain in the ass, negroe.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on August 04, 2009, 10:55:16 PM

I think you may be correct.  I hate the fact that he wants to ride the SCAT bus, instead of letting me pick him up from the 'port.  

But that means you'd have to pull strings to get time off of work and all that bullshit. Ask joe employee this and that...
I'm taking the bus to save you a pain in the ass, negroe.

Awww... true love is the greatest thing in the world - except for a nice MLT
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 05, 2009, 08:20:47 AM
I love Florida.  

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt.  

i'm afraid, my friend, there simply is no way to make that request without gay....

I think you may be correct.  I hate the fact that he wants to ride the SCAT bus, instead of letting me pick him up from the 'port.  

But that means you'd have to pull strings to get time off of work and all that bullshit. Ask joe employee this and that...
I'm taking the bus to save you a pain in the ass, negroe.

Nigga, I don't pull strings.  I make the motherfucking schedule. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 05, 2009, 08:33:50 AM
I love Florida.  

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt.  

i'm afraid, my friend, there simply is no way to make that request without gay....

I think you may be correct.  I hate the fact that he wants to ride the SCAT bus, instead of letting me pick him up from the 'port.  

But that means you'd have to pull strings to get time off of work and all that bullshit. Ask joe employee this and that...
I'm taking the bus to save you a pain in the ass, negroe.

Nigga, I don't pull strings.  I make the motherfucking schedule. 

Alright, mah' funky sexy mama jama. Ah be baaad... You's do whoot ya' need t'do. 'S coo', baby.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 05, 2009, 08:35:26 AM
I love Florida.  

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt.  

i'm afraid, my friend, there simply is no way to make that request without gay....

I think you may be correct.  I hate the fact that he wants to ride the SCAT bus, instead of letting me pick him up from the 'port.  

But that means you'd have to pull strings to get time off of work and all that bullshit. Ask joe employee this and that...
I'm taking the bus to save you a pain in the ass, negroe.

Nigga, I don't pull strings.  I make the motherfucking schedule. 

Alright, mah' funky sexy mama jama. Ah be baaad... You's do whoot ya' need t'do. 'S coo', baby.

I hate you. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 05, 2009, 08:41:49 AM
I love Florida.  

You want to take the SCAT bus with me?!  :P

Say it less gay, and we have to be holding beers and talking about hunting bison the whole ride.  And do not wear those Jordache lowriders and the belly shirt.  

i'm afraid, my friend, there simply is no way to make that request without gay....

I think you may be correct.  I hate the fact that he wants to ride the SCAT bus, instead of letting me pick him up from the 'port.  

But that means you'd have to pull strings to get time off of work and all that bullshit. Ask joe employee this and that...
I'm taking the bus to save you a pain in the ass, negroe.

Nigga, I don't pull strings.  I make the motherfucking schedule. 

Alright, mah' funky sexy mama jama. Ah be baaad... You's do whoot ya' need t'do. 'S coo', baby.

I hate you. 

Cool cat, duzn't wo'ry about nuthin. Ah' gots'ta snatch de bus while ya' hang. Slap mah fro...
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 05, 2009, 08:59:46 AM
Oh I'll slap you...
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on August 05, 2009, 09:08:47 AM
Oh I'll slap you...
Nigga, pleez... Sistah, you need sum luv.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 05, 2009, 11:06:54 AM
Well my plan is to leave for Vegas within the next hour on my motorcycle.  Damn this is gonna be a long ass boring mofuckin' ride.  Free room and board at the Venetian with my best friends from High School makes it worth it though.  You folks play nice while I'm away and I'll try not to re-enact The Hangover, although I can't promise that I won't marry a hooker and give her my grandma's holocaust ring in a drunken stupor this weekend.  I think I'm going to quit drinking for a month by the time this trip is over.

Oh yeah, and I also Plan on not going to Nevada State Penn or any similar establishment.  Wish me luck with that.  8)

I also plan on making a short trip out of town for a machine gun rental excursion, I hear you can rent a full auto MP5 for $100 bucks, and I just want to experience blowing through 30 rounds at 600 rounds per minute at full auto just for the hell of it, although that plan isn't concrete.

Edit again: it's only 35-40 bucks per mag to shoot a full auto Thompson or MP5 or Israeli Uzi at this place right on the strip.  Woot!
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 10, 2009, 06:03:26 AM
Well I made a few plans for the Vegas trip and lets just say that all of them worked out beautifully, except one, but that one got modified as I induced more alcohol throughout the final night I was there.

My whole body is sore and I've decided that 400 miles each direction in a straight line ain't much fun on a motorcycle.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on August 10, 2009, 02:54:05 PM

My whole body is sore and I've decided that 400 miles each direction in a straight line ain't much fun on a motorcycle.

if you're all cocked up, it wouldn't be such a straight line....then it would be fun
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: BonerJoe on August 10, 2009, 03:32:16 PM

My whole body is sore and I've decided that 400 miles each direction in a straight line ain't much fun on a motorcycle.

if you're all cocked up, it wouldn't be such a straight line....then it would be fun

There's a reason bikers are fat.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on August 10, 2009, 03:50:01 PM
I need to work on my .plan
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 10, 2009, 07:11:10 PM

My whole body is sore and I've decided that 400 miles each direction in a straight line ain't much fun on a motorcycle.

if you're all cocked up, it wouldn't be such a straight line....then it would be fun

There's a reason bikers are fat.
I'm not even close to being considered fat by anyone's standards.  The reason I hit the gym is to gain weight.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: BonerJoe on August 10, 2009, 07:36:53 PM

My whole body is sore and I've decided that 400 miles each direction in a straight line ain't much fun on a motorcycle.

if you're all cocked up, it wouldn't be such a straight line....then it would be fun

There's a reason bikers are fat.
I'm not even close to being considered fat by anyone's standards.  The reason I hit the gym is to gain weight.

That's what I'm saying, you have no cushioning.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 10, 2009, 07:43:10 PM

My whole body is sore and I've decided that 400 miles each direction in a straight line ain't much fun on a motorcycle.

if you're all cocked up, it wouldn't be such a straight line....then it would be fun

There's a reason bikers are fat.
I'm not even close to being considered fat by anyone's standards.  The reason I hit the gym is to gain weight.

That's what I'm saying, you have no cushioning.
But my seat is really soft.

Actually isn't wasn't the seat that was killing me, it was my shoulders and neck and upper back combined with a massive hangover from an over the top last night.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Ecolitan on August 10, 2009, 07:53:16 PM
Interstate travel on motorcycles sucks.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 21, 2009, 07:22:20 PM

Quote
-All

This letter shall serve as my two week notice of resignation.  I will
fulfill my scheduled shift until Sunday, August 23rd, at which point I
will utilize any remaining vacation days and Personal time (if any)
across my current schedule -  After which I will remain available to
fill shifts if necessary until the expiration of the mandatory two-week
period, provided I am given 24 hours notice and all other [employees]
have refused the shift.

This fourteen day period will terminate fourteen calendar days from
today's date.  I do not wish to be contacted about COBRA health
benefits.  I would like a short summary of any accrued pension
assembled, and kept by [edit] to be mailed to an address I will
provide when I contact him via telephone at H.R.

I state for the record my resignation is voluntary, and would request my
reasons to be accepted as personal in nature.

Sincerely,
Bill Brasky
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on August 21, 2009, 08:03:12 PM
KICKASS BRASKY!!!!


Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on August 21, 2009, 08:22:23 PM
KICKASS BRASKY!!!!




This. Definitely.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: BonerJoe on August 22, 2009, 03:03:39 AM
Details, man. Details.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 22, 2009, 03:26:07 AM
Wow, you quit your job.  Now what?  You're leaving us in suspense.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 22, 2009, 08:02:54 AM
Details, man. Details.

THIS.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: yamnuska on August 23, 2009, 02:24:55 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_i6pX2VQfiPA/R8_ikDBGRYI/AAAAAAAAAU4/bOn8su4j1oY/s400/iQuit.jpg)

(http://www.afreeman.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/i-quit.jpg)
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on August 23, 2009, 09:59:30 AM
Looks like my plan is almost finished.  In about three weeks time, I will have a job transfer complete, and be driving up to Illinois to move. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Laetitia on August 23, 2009, 03:00:23 PM
Looks like my plan is almost finished.  In about three weeks time, I will have a job transfer complete, and be driving up to Illinois to move. 

Yea! for Lindsey, too.

Anyone else hitting a milestone on their earlier plans?
(Or, currently need of encouragement/pestering to get rid of a millstone that's holding them back, I suppose.)
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 23, 2009, 03:23:32 PM
Very cool, Linds.


--

Details...  I have none, really.  I'm riding out my final two hours at the job. 

Final numbers - 8 yrs, 47 weeks.  Roughly 18,000 hours. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on August 23, 2009, 03:58:30 PM
Lucky.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on August 23, 2009, 04:30:47 PM
Very cool, Linds.


--

Details...  I have none, really.  I'm riding out my final two hours at the job. 

Final numbers - 8 yrs, 47 weeks.  Roughly 18,000 hours. 

i hope you appropriated some shit....
pens, copy paper, coffee mugs, computers
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 23, 2009, 05:38:40 PM
Very cool, Linds.


--

Details...  I have none, really.  I'm riding out my final two hours at the job. 

Final numbers - 8 yrs, 47 weeks.  Roughly 18,000 hours. 

i hope you appropriated some shit....
pens, copy paper, coffee mugs, computers

I took two coffee mugs with the company logo that said "guest" on them, for guests, obviously. 

I took my name off the dry erase board. 

Other than that, nothing.  I was gonna take my favorite stapler, because we had a running joke derived from Office Space. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: blackie on August 26, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
I would like to quit my job.

I'm gunna buy some Mega Millions (http://megamillions.com/) tickets. $325 million could tide me over for a while.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 26, 2009, 08:57:34 PM
I would like to quit my job.

I'm gunna buy some Mega Millions (http://megamillions.com/) tickets. $325 million could tide me over for a while.

I buy a few here and there.  The day before my last day, I hit four out of five numbers on the Cash5.  $122.  The extra digit I missed was worth about $900,000





Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on September 05, 2009, 12:58:44 AM
The Plan:
Live in own place (w/ gf) for a year.
Attend the Midwest Liberty Fest next month.
Move, to my gf's college town.
Make it to the next Porcfest.
Get my finances in order.
Read some books I am in the middle of reading.
Finnish my Anarchism essay.
Finish the book I am writing (with anarcho-capitalists as the desired audience).
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on September 05, 2009, 07:50:22 AM
The Plan:
Live in own place (w/ gf) for a year.
Attend the Midwest Liberty Fest next month.
Move, to my gf's college town.
Make it to the next Porcfest.
Get my finances in order.
Read some books I am in the middle of reading.
Finnish my Anarchism essay.
Finish the book I am writing (with anarcho-capitalists as the desired audience).

Does is strike you as odd that you spelled "finish" in this post twice - and that one was correct, and the other incorrect?   :P

Also, two weeks from today I should arrive in Illinois.   :D
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 05, 2009, 09:33:08 AM

Also, two weeks from today I should arrive in Illinois.   :D

Avoiding Indiana, I hope.   

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on September 05, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
The Plan:
Live in own place (w/ gf) for a year.
Attend the Midwest Liberty Fest next month.
Move, to my gf's college town.
Make it to the next Porcfest.
Get my finances in order.
Read some books I am in the middle of reading.
Finish my Anarchism essay.
Finnish the book I am writing (with anarcho-capitalists as the desired audience) (for those from Finland).

Does is strike you as odd that you spelled "finish" in this post twice - and that one was correct, and the other incorrect?   :P

Also, two weeks from today I should arrive in Illinois.   :D

Attending the festival later?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on September 05, 2009, 09:02:13 PM

Also, two weeks from today I should arrive in Illinois.   :D

Avoiding Indiana, I hope.   



Well, I did kind of want to visit my cousin Carrie.  The downside to that is my granny lives there, and I can't stand her. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 05, 2009, 09:54:18 PM
I met her granny. She seemed so nice. :lol:
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on September 05, 2009, 10:06:10 PM
I met her granny. She seemed so nice. :lol:

That's because you're not related to her. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on September 05, 2009, 10:16:03 PM
Indiana is 2 states:
Northen Indiana aka 'Gary zone' aka "America's Armpit
vs
Southern Indiana aka 'Kentuckyana' aka "A damn nice place to live"
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on September 05, 2009, 10:33:17 PM
We're from Indianapolis.  Near Speedway, where the race track is. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: freeAgent on September 05, 2009, 11:17:44 PM
Congrats on the house Denis.  I'm happy for you.

As far as leveraged decay goes, 2-5 years is kinda long.  They re-set over night, and mirror daily percentage returns x2.  I'm a math fail, so its kinda hard for me to describe with technical accuracy, but here goes...

If a stock is worth $100, and loses 1%, it is now worth $99, right? 

When the daily gain on that $99 is 1%, you only recover 99c.  Thus, your gain must be 1.01% to recover a 1% loss.  As they go up and down in daily activity over a long period of time, that really starts to play on the numbers.  Thats decay.  And in a 2x, its more pronounced. 

You stand to make more than you lose, so its all good.  But you can really see a droop in very long charts.  Its worth it to reposition yourself if they are losing buckets in a several day slump.  I know you don't like to day trade, but if the talking heads talk about a significant factor thats causing a large market trend in the wrong direction, like oil falling through the floor, you may want to consider making a readjustment until a new low is bottomed. 

That's mostly right, but it's missing part 2 which explains why this occurs with leveraged ETFs and not unleveraged ETFs (aside from fees eating into principle in both scenarios).  Mathematically:

$100*.99=$99 (1% loss)

$99*1.01=$99.99 (1% gain)

To break even, you need: (current amount)/(1-loss%)

To turn that into a percent, just divide that whole thing by the current amount.  A more dramatic example would be a $1 loss on $5 principle.  That's a 20% loss.  However, to get back to $5 you need a 25% gain.

PART 2

This all matters to leveraged ETFs because they aim to double (or triple, etc.) the daily return (or loss) of...whatever.  So, if you take my $1 loss on $5 principle example, your double-levered ETF would give you a -40% return on the 20% drop.  You're down to $3.  The next day, the underlying asset returns to its previous value.  Great!  That means it went up 25% and you get a 50% bump!  Not so fast...  $3*1.5=$4.50.  You just lost 10%, my friend.  That is decay.  It sucks.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: freeAgent on September 05, 2009, 11:30:26 PM
I guess I should add my plan, since this is the plan thread.  Basically, my most immediate plan is to get furniture to populate the empty space that currently dominates my condo.  That will take accumulation of money, and that will take time...but hopefully before this time next year I'll be pretty much set.  We'll see.  Another plan I have is to work in my current job until I decide whether or not I want to go to business or law school, which I will do no sooner than 3 years from now.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 06, 2009, 02:45:01 AM
Congrats on the house Denis.  I'm happy for you.

As far as leveraged decay goes, 2-5 years is kinda long.  They re-set over night, and mirror daily percentage returns x2.  I'm a math fail, so its kinda hard for me to describe with technical accuracy, but here goes...

If a stock is worth $100, and loses 1%, it is now worth $99, right? 

When the daily gain on that $99 is 1%, you only recover 99c.  Thus, your gain must be 1.01% to recover a 1% loss.  As they go up and down in daily activity over a long period of time, that really starts to play on the numbers.  Thats decay.  And in a 2x, its more pronounced. 

You stand to make more than you lose, so its all good.  But you can really see a droop in very long charts.  Its worth it to reposition yourself if they are losing buckets in a several day slump.  I know you don't like to day trade, but if the talking heads talk about a significant factor thats causing a large market trend in the wrong direction, like oil falling through the floor, you may want to consider making a readjustment until a new low is bottomed. 

That's mostly right, but it's missing part 2 which explains why this occurs with leveraged ETFs and not unleveraged ETFs (aside from fees eating into principle in both scenarios).  Mathematically:

$100*.99=$99 (1% loss)

$99*1.01=$99.99 (1% gain)

To break even, you need: (current amount)/(1-loss%)

To turn that into a percent, just divide that whole thing by the current amount.  A more dramatic example would be a $1 loss on $5 principle.  That's a 20% loss.  However, to get back to $5 you need a 25% gain.

PART 2

This all matters to leveraged ETFs because they aim to double (or triple, etc.) the daily return (or loss) of...whatever.  So, if you take my $1 loss on $5 principle example, your double-levered ETF would give you a -40% return on the 20% drop.  You're down to $3.  The next day, the underlying asset returns to its previous value.  Great!  That means it went up 25% and you get a 50% bump!  Not so fast...  $3*1.5=$4.50.  You just lost 10%, my friend.  That is decay.  It sucks.

Daily percent returns on the underlying index or commodity.  Times the multiple, if any.  Daily. 

I get what you're saying, and its simpler if you forget the dollar value when talking percents.  It fuzzes the issue. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: freeAgent on September 06, 2009, 10:10:20 AM
It's essential to understanding why decay affects leveraged funds, but not simple index funds.  The simple fact that you need >1% bounce to get back from a 1% loss is not enough.  If that was the case, decay would apply to all assets including straight stocks...it doesn't.  The point is that when the underlying asset/index/whatever goes down by some amount and then returns to that exact same amount, a leveraged fund will get you a net loss.  That's just how to explain it mathematically.

If you invest $x in a levered ETF which goes down by a% one day and returns to parity the next day, your loss in dollar terms is (where b is the leverage amount):

x*(1-(1+b*(1-(1-a))/(1-a))*(1-(1-(1-b*a))))

You can plug that straight into Excel if you create three fields with the names a, b, and x and watch what happens when you mess with the numbers.  It ain't too pretty.  In the original example of investing $100 in something that goes down 1% and then back up 1.01% (so the underlying asset is of equal value in the end), your double-levered ETF investment just lost you $0.02...and that's my $0.02 ;)
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on September 06, 2009, 12:11:44 PM
Indiana is 2 states:
Northen Indiana aka 'Gary zone' aka "America's Armpit
vs
Southern Indiana aka 'Kentuckyana' aka "A damn nice place to live"

100% true
my mom is from aurora...nice little river town above rising sun, ind.
take the ferry across to kentucky
it's very countrified
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on September 06, 2009, 12:27:38 PM
Indianapolis is near the northern border of the cool Kentuckyana part of the state.
I discovered my lifelong passion for Indian food in Indianapolis.
Nice city. Clean, good restaurants, cool things to do.
I forgot the name of that little trendy area where I used to spend so much time. They have art galleries and hip restaurants and a river or stream or something and outdoor festivals there.

Plus, it's close enough to Bloomington to go to the cool college stuff at IU. I do so love the IU campus.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on September 06, 2009, 07:20:13 PM
Indianapolis is near the northern border of the cool Kentuckyana part of the state.
I discovered my lifelong passion for Indian food in Indianapolis.
Nice city. Clean, good restaurants, cool things to do.
I forgot the name of that little trendy area where I used to spend so much time. They have art galleries and hip restaurants and a river or stream or something and outdoor festivals there.

Plus, it's close enough to Bloomington to go to the cool college stuff at IU. I do so love the IU campus.

I've always loved it there, maybe it's because it's where I spent the first part of my life, and my family was a bit more stable and pulled together then.  Who knows, but it is a pretty interesting place.  It's certainly grown a lot in the last few decades. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 07, 2009, 01:44:30 AM
Or you could just understand thats why they call it daily percent returns, and use the product as intended. 

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: freeAgent on September 07, 2009, 08:34:21 AM
Or you could just understand thats why they call it daily percent returns, and use the product as intended. 



But you get "percent daily returns" on non-leveraged assets and they don't experience decay.  It's the leverage that causes decay.

That said, if you lever yourself and buy a non-leveraged asset, you don't experience decay unless you turn it over while it's posting a net loss.  As long as you can hold it until you're profitable, there's no decay.  The decay only happens when you a)are leveraged and b)calculate returns over a period shorter than you hold the asset.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 08, 2009, 12:27:30 PM
Or you could just understand thats why they call it daily percent returns, and use the product as intended. 



But you get "percent daily returns" on non-leveraged assets and they don't experience decay.  It's the leverage that causes decay.


Thats probably why they call it leveraged decay.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: One two three on September 08, 2009, 03:41:48 PM
Goal:
My goal is to recruit 20 folks to become FSP participants.  I'm already in double digits.

Overall Plan:
My plan is to spread the word at rest areas, schools and libraries around New England.  I plan to distribute FSP flyers, FSP bookmarks, and FTL flyers.
...
Next step in the plan:
Place a total of 100 FSP bookmarks in 2 VT rest areas on the way to and from Porcfest.
...

Update:
I only stopped at one VT rest area on the way to Porcfest and it didn't have places for FSP bookmarks.

Last month I enhanced around 60 books with Free Keene Warning flyers at a library in VT.

Next step in the plan:
Enhance several hundred books at libraries in MA and VT with FSP bookmarks later this month.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Lindsey on September 08, 2009, 03:58:19 PM
I'm packing my stuff for the next few days. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: freeAgent on September 08, 2009, 04:15:46 PM
Or you could just understand thats why they call it daily percent returns, and use the product as intended. 



But you get "percent daily returns" on non-leveraged assets and they don't experience decay.  It's the leverage that causes decay.


Thats probably why they call it leveraged decay.

All I'm saying is that some people might want to know what exactly that means and when, how, and why it might affect them.  Your definition was half right, but not complete.  I posted the rest for their benefit as much as yours.  I just wanted to make sure that the right information was out there for anyone who might not look further than this thread.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 14, 2009, 02:09:13 AM
DAILY.  IN-OUT.  BOOM-BOOM.  ONE DAY.  CHOP-CHOP. 

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: anarchir on September 23, 2009, 02:09:54 AM
Good business news as  of  today :)  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 23, 2009, 10:10:33 AM
[youtube=425,350]QYV7WeaDP_8[/youtube]

Wait, was this thread about something else?   :?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on September 23, 2009, 11:02:34 AM
Good business news as  of  today :)  :D :D :D
what?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: One two three on September 27, 2009, 11:09:32 PM
Update:
I only stopped at one VT rest area on the way to Porcfest and it didn't have places for FSP bookmarks.

Last month I enhanced around 60 books with Free Keene Warning flyers at a library in VT.

Next step in the plan:
Enhance several hundred books at libraries in MA and VT with FSP bookmarks later this month.

Update: Over the last few days, around 270 books were enhanced with FSP bookmarks or FSP flyers at libraries in North Adams, MA, Pittsfield, MA, and Bennington, VT.  After the last book was enhanced at the North Adams library, a librarian asked nicely for the enhancement to end.  Otherwise, uneventful.  Things are going well.

Next step in the plan: distribute 600-800 bookmarks and FSP flyers at libraries in NY, TN, CT, and MA.  Also, distribute 100-200 flyers at colleges in NY, TN and MA.  Hopefully this will happen in November.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: One two three on October 21, 2009, 08:53:08 AM
Update: Over the last few days, around 270 books were enhanced with FSP bookmarks or FSP flyers at libraries in North Adams, MA, Pittsfield, MA, and Bennington, VT.  After the last book was enhanced at the North Adams library, a librarian asked nicely for the enhancement to end.  Otherwise, uneventful.  Things are going well.

Next step in the plan: distribute 600-800 bookmarks and FSP flyers at libraries in NY, TN, CT, and MA.  Also, distribute 100-200 flyers at colleges in NY, TN and MA.  Hopefully this will happen in November.

Update: Over the last few days, around 450 books were enhanced with FSP bookmarks or FSP flyers at libraries in Methuen, Haverhill, and Amesbury, MA.  Another 450 books were enhanced with FSP bookmarks or FTL flyers at the University of VT library.  Also, a total of 80 FSP flyers were inserted into free magazines at Rest Areas in Seabrook, NH (on the border) and two Rest Areas in MA.

Next step in the plan: Enhance 1200-1500 books at libraries in TN, MA and/or MS with FSP bookmarks, FSP flyers or FTL Flyers in November.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on October 21, 2009, 11:13:46 AM
i think there are a lot of trash cans in librarys w/ fsp bookmarks in them....
librarians give the book a shake & out it goes.....
why waste yer time??
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on October 21, 2009, 11:46:47 AM
Update: Over the last few days, around 450 books were enhanced with FSP bookmarks or FSP flyers at libraries in Methuen, Haverhill, and Amesbury, MA.  Another 450 books were enhanced with FSP bookmarks or FTL flyers at the University of VT library.  Also, a total of 80 FSP flyers were inserted into free magazines at Rest Areas in Seabrook, NH (on the border) and two Rest Areas in MA.

Next step in the plan: Enhance 1200-1500 books at libraries in TN, MA and/or MS with FSP bookmarks, FSP flyers or FTL Flyers in November.
You ROCK

why waste yer time??
Ask Chris Lawless sometime about how he found the FSP. Some crazy person was handing out FSP flyers outside a movie. Flyer went to a bunch of uninterested people, one of whom gave the flyer to his cousin(?), who gave it to Chris.

Now Chris Lawless is a Selectman for the town of Hopkinton, and he is the organizer of the NH Liberty Forum.

You truly never know who you are going to touch. Even if you hand out 1,000 and you get only one Chris Lawless for the effort... holy shit, that is a GREAT return on investment!
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: One two three on October 21, 2009, 11:48:12 AM
i think there are a lot of trash cans in librarys w/ fsp bookmarks in them....
librarians give the book a shake & out it goes.....
why waste yer time??

Many books have been rechecked.  Most of them, even months later, are still enhanced.  Do you think a librarian shakes 100,000+ books?  There is positive feedback from this.  Have you never seen something in a book at a library?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: BonerJoe on October 21, 2009, 12:31:01 PM
You should be testing the effectiveness of this with a custom URL that you can track.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: One two three on October 21, 2009, 04:10:02 PM
You should be testing the effectiveness of this with a custom URL that you can track.

5 different things have been used so far.  Likely, several different flyers will be added into the mix soon.

Here is a goodie for Ian, http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs210.snc1/7718_610296089970_38913738_34772779_1039866_n.jpg
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on October 21, 2009, 05:33:54 PM
You should be testing the effectiveness of this with a custom URL that you can track.

5 different things have been used so far.  Likely, several different flyers will be added into the mix soon.

Here is a goodie for Ian, http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs210.snc1/7718_610296089970_38913738_34772779_1039866_n.jpg
Flyering FTW!
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 21, 2009, 05:46:23 PM


Many books have been rechecked.  Most of them, even months later, are still enhanced.  Do you think a librarian shakes 100,000+ books?  There is positive feedback from this.  Have you never seen something in a book at a library?

Actually, yes.  They do check the books.  If its checked out and returned, they remove anything that happens to be in the pages.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: One two three on October 21, 2009, 06:37:09 PM


Many books have been rechecked.  Most of them, even months later, are still enhanced.  Do you think a librarian shakes 100,000+ books?  There is positive feedback from this.  Have you never seen something in a book at a library?

Actually, yes.  They do check the books.  If its checked out and returned, they remove anything that happens to be in the pages.

Not always at the libraries that I've been to in various states.  Although, the idea is for people to look at the books (either quickly check it or check it out) and see the bookmark.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 21, 2009, 07:02:51 PM


Many books have been rechecked.  Most of them, even months later, are still enhanced.  Do you think a librarian shakes 100,000+ books?  There is positive feedback from this.  Have you never seen something in a book at a library?

Actually, yes.  They do check the books.  If its checked out and returned, they remove anything that happens to be in the pages.

Not always at the libraries that I've been to in various states.  Although, the idea is for people to look at the books (either quickly check it or check it out) and see the bookmark.



No shit, not always.  Its a fuckin' library.  Book comes in, old lady shakes it out.  Thats how it works.  OKAY!!??


jesus fuck...

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: sillyperson on October 21, 2009, 07:32:23 PM
jesus fuck...
hawt. got vid?
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 21, 2009, 07:42:48 PM
No, we had a falling out many years ago and no longer roll in the same crowd. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on October 22, 2009, 01:01:49 PM
No, we had a falling out many years ago and no longer roll in the same crowd. 



we used to hang too, until ''that'' weekend, long ago.....

[youtube=425,350]DSwG9Tojg9I[/youtube]
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 22, 2009, 03:00:59 PM
He's the voice of my conscience, the narrator of my thoughts. 
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Riddler on October 22, 2009, 06:45:12 PM
He's the voice of my conscience, the narrator of my thoughts. 


ohh! ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 22, 2009, 06:53:56 PM
He's the voice of my conscience, the narrator of my thoughts. 


ohh! ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

That, and the insane, maniacal laugh when something (occasionally) goes right.

Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: BonerJoe on October 22, 2009, 07:16:43 PM
I've heard it. It exists.
Title: Re: The Plan Thread
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 22, 2009, 07:39:24 PM
Some it drives to the brink of madness.