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The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« on: May 18, 2011, 12:41:59 PM »

I regret purchasing this book and did a review on it:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R3G0E48BE2GQSA/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B004YJX1NG&nodeID=&tag=&linkCode=

In summary, this is supposed to be a secular version of the Bible drawing upon centuries of Eastern and Western non-religious philosophy.

It sounded good and there are a lot of good passages and such in it but the fact that the author is a statist kind of ruins the whole book.

Please click on my Amazon review above for details and vote on it to keep others from making the same mistake.
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2011, 02:46:00 PM »

Have you checked out the Jefferson Bible? Supposedly Thomas Jefferson took the bible and re-wrote it cutting out all the superstitious stuff.
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 03:15:43 PM »

Have you checked out the Jefferson Bible? Supposedly Thomas Jefferson took the bible and re-wrote it cutting out all the superstitious stuff.

How about Noah's Ark?

That one always pissed me off.
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2011, 04:54:36 PM »

Ugh, it ceases to be the Bible upon revision. Second, there is little moral and historical value in the bible. Some, but not enough to be reliable.
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 06:42:04 AM »

Ugh, it ceases to be the Bible upon revision.
I disagree.

Find me a bible that hasn't gone through a revision process.

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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 12:17:44 PM »

Right, its credibility is already lost. Further revision doesn't fix that.
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 12:30:33 PM »

How about Noah's Ark?

That one always pissed me off.

Jefferson Bible is just the new testament, minus all the supernatural stuff.

Basically it's nothing but the Jesus stuff.

Noah's Ark was old testament.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 02:19:45 PM »

Ugh, it ceases to be the Bible upon revision. Second, there is little moral and historical value in the bible. Some, but not enough to be reliable.

The bible is full of moral values!  How about "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 12:41:47 AM »

Right, its credibility is already lost. Further revision doesn't fix that.
  Why is there a phone by your post?

Also Fred, if you get to pick and choose what values you want out of a boook, then it isnt much of a guide that you "have" (or eternal damnaton) to follow, just a suggestion book. I'm sure there are some good things in every religious book. Why pick just one tome? The buddhists seem to have peaceful ideas, if you like a little discipline in your life you can study the Torah. Feelin guilty? Check out what the catholics are writing about. Most religious people ignore the majority of what their religious books say I gather anyway. We all look at our environment, culture, upbringing and make up our morals. Sometimes, it truly seems that a good deal of the population doesnt care to think about politics, religion, philosophy and just does what is right to them in each situation as it arises.   If that decision goes well, then clearly that is what their moral compass will guide them similarly to do in the future right?
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 04:45:24 AM »

I like the idea of picking and choosing valuable moral lessons from all texts - not just the bible.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 03:07:54 PM »

Ugh, it ceases to be the Bible upon revision. Second, there is little moral and historical value in the bible. Some, but not enough to be reliable.

The bible is full of moral values!  How about "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?

And where in human morality is that not promoted?
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 05:01:23 PM »

Ugh, it ceases to be the Bible upon revision. Second, there is little moral and historical value in the bible. Some, but not enough to be reliable.

The bible is full of moral values!  How about "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?

What if you are a self hating sociopath, like almost every evil person ever? Evil is self destructive.

Telling people who hate themselves to treat everyone the way the want to be treated is asking for, well, exactly the sorts of horrors that already fill the world.
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2011, 08:34:44 PM »

Oh, I get it.  Rapists want to be raped, murderers want to be murdered, wife beaters want their wife to beat them, etc.
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2011, 08:53:36 PM »

Oh, I get it.  Rapists want to be raped, murderers want to be murdered, wife beaters want their wife to beat them, etc.

What? No.

Self destructive behavior can and does externalize.

Rapists often HAVE BEEN raped. Murderers often have BEEN WITNESS TO HORRIBLE VIOLENCE. Wife beaters almost always GREW UP IN A HOUSE WITH A VIOLENT PERSON, USUALLY A WIFE BEATER.

Cutters, suicidal people, passive aggressive people etc. can and have snapped and done horrible things to others after spending years doing horrible things to themselves. They often do it knowing that they'll die in the process, too.

"Suicide by cop" is pretty damned common.

Most of the biggest monsters in history wrestled with "Temptations of the flesh".

Most bad people who do bad things already pretty much hate themselves.

The "Golden Rule" doesn't account for this.

A suicide bomber's opinion of the golden rule is "I want to die, and I'm gonna share it out with everyone else." - They haven't broken the golden rule.
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Re: The Good Book: A Humanist Bible
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2011, 01:01:40 AM »

You guys got it all wrong,


"the golden shower rule":

Piss on others like you wanna be pissed on.

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