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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2009, 02:41:52 PM »

New headlines on Drudge:


"Somalia's Environmental Minister Buri Hamza"   When did Somalia get a government so they could appoint an Environmental Minister or did some rich Somalian just turn up at the meeting declaring himself to be Somalia's Environmental Minister?  Is he even Somalian?    Couldn't some enterprising Kenyan have just turned up knowing there is no government in Somalia.  Where did this guy come from?  I mean the last I heard anything about Somalia was it was a lawless pirate inhabited cesspool when did that change?

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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2009, 03:13:12 PM »

Any warlord's claim to be "government" is as legitimate as any other's - and, speaking of one of America's more prominent warlords trying to lie their way into ever-more power...


From Herald Sun -- Climategate: Gore falsifies the record --

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Al Gore has studied the Climategate emails with his typically rigorous eye and dismissed them as mere piffle:

                    Q: How damaging to your argument was the disclosure of e-mails from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University?

A: To paraphrase Shakespeare, it’s sound and fury signifying nothing. I haven’t read all the e-mails, but the most recent one is more than 10 years old. These private exchanges between these scientists do not in any way cause any question about the scientific consensus.

And in case you think that was a mere slip of the tongue:

                    Q: There is a sense in these e-mails, though, that data was hidden and hoarded, which is the opposite of the case you make [in your book] about having an open and fair debate.

A: I think it’s been taken wildly out of context. The discussion you’re referring to was about two papers that two of these scientists felt shouldn’t be accepted as part of the IPCC report. Both of them, in fact, were included, referenced, and discussed. So an e-mail exchange more than 10 years ago including somebody’s opinion that a particular study isn’t any good is one thing, but the fact that the study ended up being included and discussed anyway is a more powerful comment on what the result of the scientific process really is.

In fact, thrice denied:

                    These people are examining what they can or should do to deal with the P.R. dimensions of this, but where the scientific consensus is concerned, it’s completely unchanged. What we’re seeing is a set of changes worldwide that just make this discussion over 10-year-old e-mails kind of silly.

In fact, as Watts Up With That [WP] shows, one Climategate email was from just two months ago. The most recent was sent on November 12 - just a month ago. The emails which have Tom Wigley seeming (to me) to choke on the deceit are all from this year. Phil Jones’ infamous email urging other Climategate scientists to delete emails is from last year.

How closely did Gore read these emails? Did he actually read any at all? Was he lying or just terribly mistaken? What else has he got wrong?

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                    Actually the e-mail archives are named by Unix timestamp, ranging from Thu, 07 Mar 1996 14:41:07 GMT through to Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:17:44 GMT.  This is a strong indicator they are extracted from an enterprise archive, probably by the FOIA Compliance Officer and not hacked from individual’s workstations.



The sheeple are so brainwashed and complacent, the warlords don't even have to be particularly good liars anymore...  :x
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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2009, 04:59:16 PM »

Merry Christmas and spread the word!! Here in Spain, climategate is pretty much covered up in the news here.
 
(youtube imbedding still doesn't work?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

Funny animated video about climategate with a nice cold snowy theme for all the warming bullshitters...


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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2009, 01:30:06 PM »

There you go...they're not beyond cutting balls off over a myth.
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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2009, 07:41:47 PM »

There you go...they're not beyond cutting balls off over a myth.
Could be worse the Aztecs and the Mayans cut out hearts over a myth.
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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2009, 10:37:53 PM »

There you go...they're not beyond cutting balls off over a myth.
Could be worse the Aztecs and the Mayans cut out hearts over a myth.

Myth? You mean religion. Meh, I guess they are the same.
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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2009, 08:03:41 PM »

There you go...they're not beyond cutting balls off over a myth.
Could be worse the Aztecs and the Mayans cut out hearts over a myth.

Myth? You mean religion. Meh, I guess they are the same.

I think it's fair to say that the religions are a subset of the myths.  This would be according to a scholarly definition of myth, not colloquial.
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AP Tries to Put Spin on Global Warming Hoaxers to Save the Myth
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2009, 01:15:00 PM »

AP SPIN-PACT: The scientists are bad boys, but that doesn't mean the religion science is invalid...

LONDON E-mails stolen from climate scientists show they stonewalled skeptics and discussed hiding data but the messages don't support claims that the science of global warming was faked, according to an exhaustive review by The Associated Press.

The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP show that scientists harbored private doubts, however slight and fleeting, even as they told the world they were certain about climate change. However, the exchanges don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

AP IMPACT: Science not faked, but not pretty
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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2009, 09:53:14 PM »

New headlines on Drudge:









And, from Slashdot -- The Limits To Skepticism --

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Jamie found a long and painstaking piece up at The Economist asking and provisionally answering the question: "Does the spirit of scientific scepticism really require that I remain forever open-minded to denialist humbug until it's shown to be wrong?" The author, who is not named, spent sevaral hours picking apart the arguments of one Willis Eschenbach, AGW denialist, who on Dec. 8 published what he called the "smoking gun" - it was supposed to prove that the adjustments climate scientists make to historical temperature records are arbitrary to the point of intentional manipulation. The conclusion:

"[H]ere's my solution to this problem: this is why we have peer review. Average guys with websites can do a lot of amazing things. One thing they cannot do is reveal statistical manipulation in climate-change studies that require a PhD in a related field to understand. So for the time being, my response to any and all further 'smoking gun' claims begins with: show me the peer-reviewed journal article demonstrating the error here. Otherwise, you're a crank and this is not a story. And then I'll probably go ahead and try to investigate the claim and write a blog post about it, because that's my job. Oh, and by the way: October was the hottest month on record in Darwin, Australia."

Needless to say, all my attempts to argue to the contrary are ranked 0 or -1 and thus hidden from view...  :x


(EDIT: and now I can't reply on Slashdot at all because I've been limited to 2 posts per day...  I swear, I will pour gasoline over myself and set myself on fire before I let those fascist motherfuckers extract one more penny from me in taxes, or otherwise benefit from the fruits of my labor ever again!)
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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2009, 03:53:08 AM »

My attempts to debate this issue on other socialist forums haven't gone any better...  :x


New headlines on Drudge:



           




From Fox News:



And, from Slashdot -- Russians Claim More Climate Data Was Manipulated --

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On Tuesday, the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis (IEA) claimed that the Hadley Center for Climate Change had probably tampered with Russian-climate data.

The IEA believes that Russian meteorological-station data did not substantiate the anthropogenic global-warming theory. Analysts say Russian meteorological stations cover most of the country’s territory, and that the Hadley Center had used data submitted by only 25% of such stations in its reports. Over 40% of Russian territory was not included in global-temperature calculations for some other reasons, rather than the lack of meteorological stations and observations. The data of stations located in areas not listed in the Hadley CRU survey often does not show any substantial warming in the late 20th century and the early 21st century.
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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2009, 09:04:25 AM »

The fraud just continues with the ultimate goal a huge increase in financial aid to developing countries.  The money will simply make dictators in this countries richer.  It is just a scam to steal as much money as possible from people.
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Fascists trying to explain to other fascists why free people don't believe the lies...

AP: Global warming a tough sell for the human psyche

By MALCOLM RITTER, AP Science Writer

NEW YORK The Copenhagen talks on climate change were convened with a sense of urgency that many ordinary folks don't share. Why is that? One big reason: It's hard for people to get excited about a threat that seems far away in space and time, psychologists say.
"It's not in people's faces," said psychologist Robert Gifford of the University of Victoria in British Columbia. "It is in the media, but not in their everyday experience. That's quite a different thing."

The consequences of global warming are seen as occurring in far-off places, he said: "It's happening up in the Arctic or it's happening in Bangladesh, and it's not happening in my backyard." And the slow changes are not as attention-grabbing as a "fast disaster" like an earthquake, he said.

As it happens, those urgent-seeming U.N. talks have bogged down over political differences. But recent surveys suggest that Americans are not exactly consumed by concern over climate change.

In October, the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press said its poll found that only 35 percent of Americans considered global warming to be a very serious problem, a decline from April 2008. Thirty percent called it "somewhat serious."

In a poll by The Associated Press and Stanford University, published this month, more than half said they would not support a "cap-and-trade" program to reduce global warming gases if it raised their energy bills by $10 a month. Cap-and-trade would essentially allow industries to buy and sell the right to pollute.

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Re: The Global Warming Hoax
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2009, 07:34:00 PM »

They of course have twisted the truth completely once again.  The human psyche is like a dog that pooped on the carpet - just sitting there, looking guilty, and waiting for someone to hit it with a newspaper and rub its nose in it.  That's why humans have always loved inventing gods to belittle and punish them.  Remember, the "original sin"?  The environmentalist religion builds on the very same psychological associations.  It's the understanding of free market economics that requires rational intelligence that bends and overcomes a man's petty animalistic emotions!


And, speaking of animalistic emotions, here's the latest from Commiehagen:

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 :x

(Anachronism noticed: the background song is the new Russian national anthem, which has the same music but different lyrics from the Soviet one.)
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