The FSP is a religion

[sillyperson]

Especially considering you'll get shit on whenever you express interest in something other than holding signs and wasting time in court over a hat.

My wife gets really tired of me playing FTL on the stereo when it all seems to revolve around that kind of stuff.

Most of the pro-liberty NH natives I know can't believe the abject stupidity of the FSPers who spend their time on that kind of thing.

Mostly I think that's born from experience with politics in other states, where it really IS futile, combined with a weird holier-than-thou thingy, combined with the good old-fashioned infallibility of youth.

[FTL_Ian]

I get to hang out with the coolest, most active liberty lovers on a weekly basis.  More happens each month here than happened in a year in FL.  Long live the FSP!

[blackie]

* 6 FSPers (4 movers + 2 before-the-vote) elected as State Rep. That's more Libertarians in higher office than anywhere else in the USA.

If you want to make that claim, you need to post the names.

[JWI]

Wake me up when the next Free State Project starts and a new state is voted on after NH turns into a suburb of Boston.

[Dave P. R. of S.]

I just want to know if you have a better idea than the FSP and what your strategy is. I'm certainly open to it if it makes more sense than the FSP.

Don't know if it is a better idea, but I like it more than going to jail to acheive liberty.

Support the ruling party (especially this one).

Help the powers that be destroy the country.

Demand that Ford be taken over by GovCo (just to even out the playing field).

Demand free health care.  Support the notion of killing the old, infirm, and retarded.

Demand a czar for everything.

Write a letter to the editor in support of every fucking tax increase that is proposed.  Propose a few crazy ass ones of your own.  (You'd be surprised how your ideas will be embraced.)

Demand that every local industry, like garbage collection, fire protection, lawn care, snow removal, home inspections, recycling... be taken over by the public works or even a new department.  Support Kelo(ing) the properties surrounding the public works, make it the biggest business in town.

Walk the fuck away from your home.  It isn't yours to begin with, but make sure you strip the wiring, plumbing, and anything else you can scrap for cash.

Hitler came and went in 12 short years.  Where will the FSP be in 12 years?  Will they be writing seat belt tickets in New Hampshire?  You can bet your ass on that one.

I say get it over and done with - then comes the time to rebuild.

Oh, and I almost forgot, don't buy the great Leader Obama's new Yugos.  But make sure you tell your congresscritter that we need more of them, you'd buy one if one was available.  Not one on the lot has airbags, 22 point safety harness, anti-lock brakes, run flat tires, bullet proof glass, flotation device, breathalyzer, blood sugar and cholesterol checking steering wheel, GPS reporting and tracking, Blue Tooth enabled entertainment and communications system, built in child restraint, and backup emergency locator transmitter.  That is the car you need.  That is the car you DEMAND your representative pass laws to create.

All Hail Mr. Goodwrench!

[Dave P. R. of S.]

* 6 FSPers (4 movers + 2 before-the-vote) elected as State Rep. That's more Libertarians in higher office than anywhere else in the USA.

That will fix everything.  More (fill in the blank) in higher office.

Come fucking on.  Are you serious?  Sure sounds like doing the same thing, over and over again...

If we just elect different people to control us and make our decisions...

[Dave P. R. of S.]

Wake me up when the next Free State Project starts and a new state is voted on after NH turns into a suburb of Boston.

Boston already is the capitol of New Hampshire.  As well as Maine, Vermont, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

[JWI]

Wake me up when the next Free State Project starts and a new state is voted on after NH turns into a suburb of Boston.

Boston already is the capitol of New Hampshire.  As well as Maine, Vermont, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

Well pretty soon they'll be paying Massachusetts taxes in order to support the health insurance bullshit they got going on there.

[blackie]

Wake me up when the next Free State Project starts and a new state is voted on after NH turns into a suburb of Boston.

Boston already is the capitol of New Hampshire.  As well as Maine, Vermont, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

Only half of CT. The other half belongs to NYC.

[sillyperson]

If we just elect different people to control us and make our decisions...

Understandable skepticism, typical of people who've never talked with an actual libertarian who'se got themselves elected.
Their purpose in getting elected, is to reduce the size and scope of government. Voting against regulations, taxes, and unjust laws, while voting in favor of (and sponsoring) bills to reject Federal mandates, limit State government, and repeal existing laws.

Anyway, I'm not going to masturbate further on this thread. The FSP is dead. That is all

[coyote]

Fortunately, the entire government changes every 2 years, everyone gets elected from the governor on down all at once.

How has that worked out for you guys the past 5 years? That's what I thought.

Your alternative stategy?

[BonerJoe]

Fortunately, the entire government changes every 2 years, everyone gets elected from the governor on down all at once.

How has that worked out for you guys the past 5 years? That's what I thought.

Your alternative stategy?

Living in a state freer than NH.

[anarchir]

While the Project itself is dead (by its own rules), the gathering of activists is still there and hopefully growing. That is a good thing and I support that cause.
I may move to NH myself just so I can support their efforts. I like the idea of good solidarity within the movement of free minded people.

Maybe I will move there this fall? Its certainly a possibility. All I know is I'm moving from where I'm at and need to decide on someplace new.

As for the project moving to a freer state than NH, thats an idea thats too little, too late. The activists are gathering in NH, and thats the way it is.

[JWI]

Fortunately, the entire government changes every 2 years, everyone gets elected from the governor on down all at once.

How has that worked out for you guys the past 5 years? That's what I thought.

Your alternative stategy?

Let the government eat itself.  People can all pick up and move somewhere else and they'll just end up fighting the same battles that they fought and lost in the previous place.  Then what?  Move again?  Maybe do more education and run more people for office?  For what, an attempt to slow the ever growing beast?

As much as I disagree with Dave P. R. of S. on some things, I do like his idea of just getting it over with and starting over.  Only when that happens will people finally understand that looking to government to fix things or do things for them is stupid.  Right now people will only see you as obstructing the government from getting things done and they'll blame all of government's failures on the people who were trying to stop it in the first place.  Just let it implode and hopefully enough people will be out there that can communicate the message of minimal government and voluntary activity effectively...if they're not too busy fighting for freedom by wearing hats in a court room.

[coyote]

* 6 FSPers (4 movers + 2 before-the-vote) elected as State Rep. That's more Libertarians in higher office than anywhere else in the USA.

That will fix everything.  More (fill in the blank) in higher office.

Come fucking on.  Are you serious?  Sure sounds like doing the same thing, over and over again...

If we just elect different people to control us and make our decisions...

The FSP doesn't seem like it is about just electing different people to control us. The folks doing CDO in Keene are just one example.

To be honest, I worry about the image that is created by some of what they do, but I support them anyway. I would show up at their trial and / or visit them in jail.  I would do whatever it takes to help their families and loved ones if they were imprisoned.