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As a hypothetical thought exercise...  Which of the below islands / archipelagos would be (or contain) the ideal island for the FIP?

Nation of Antigua and Barbuda
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Bahamas
- 2 (5.9%)
Nation of Barbados
- 3 (8.8%)
Nation of Cape Verde  (Atlantic, Pt-Lang)
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Commonwealth of Dominica
- 1 (2.9%)
Nation of Grenada
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Saint Kitts and Nevis
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Saint Lucia
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Trinidad and Tobago
- 4 (11.8%)
USA's Virgin Islands
- 6 (17.6%)
USA's Navassa Island  (or USA's other tiny Caribbean islands)
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Anguilla
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Bermuda  (Atlantic)
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Virgin Islands
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Cayman Islands
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Montserrat
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Turks and Caicos Islands
- 0 (0%)
Netherlands' Aruba
- 1 (2.9%)
Netherlands' Antilles
- 1 (2.9%)
France's Clipperton
- 0 (0%)
France's Guadeloupe
- 0 (0%)
France's Martinique
- 1 (2.9%)
France's Saint Barthélemy
- 0 (0%)
France's Saint Martin
- 1 (2.9%)
France's Saint Pierre and Miquelon
- 3 (8.8%)
Spain's Canary Islands  (Atlantic)
- 1 (2.9%)
Portugal's Azores  (Atlantic)
- 0 (0%)
Portugal's Madeira  (Atlantic)
- 0 (0%)
Other - Caribbean / GoM region
- 2 (5.9%)
Other - Outer Atlantic
- 1 (2.9%)
Other - East Pacific
- 1 (2.9%)

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BonerJoe

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« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2008, 08:00:40 PM »

Pff, at least in AK, you don't get teased by a little glimmer of summer.  Its cold, its gonna stay cold, and tomorrow it'll be cold as it was yesterday.

As a reprieve, it is tolerable for a two month stretch, so you can bury your dead.

At least in AK you can grow huge veggie gardens because of the extended sunlight periods.
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BonerJoe

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« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2008, 08:01:16 PM »

Alaska would have been a good choice. It's already virtually a separate country, has a strong libertarian party and a strong independence movement, and has a clause in its constitution saying it can opt out of the American union at will. On the other hand, it's cold!

Fuck the cold.

At least they won't arrest you for having a small amount of weed.

Fuck NH.
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« Reply #62 on: May 27, 2008, 11:27:56 AM »

This, from today's Lew Rockwell, may be a viable option:

http://www.wired.com/science/planetearth/news/2008/05/seasteading?currentPage=all

One of these selling time shares for libertarians might work. Dual citizenship? Or, retirement condos. At least, you can live out your final days in freedom.
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Alex Libman

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« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2008, 11:47:16 AM »

Great article, Mike, thanks.  There are many advantages to building your own "land", and one disadvantage - the U.N. won't recognize it as a sovereign country, like they would an island...
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« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2008, 12:04:08 PM »

Screw the UN. Who cares? Anyway, there may be some good advantages for NOT being recognized by the UN--or other countries, for that matter.

In any case, I don't recognize the UN.
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« Reply #65 on: May 27, 2008, 12:10:49 PM »

I've family who live in St Lucia sadly they're a bunch of cunts

I hate to say freedom island not a new fantasy

I've heard plenty of libertarians over the years say how they going to buy an island & live free non have dome so
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« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2009, 04:46:04 PM »

What about Costa Rica? I heard that they were already pretty libertarian.
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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2009, 11:00:36 PM »

Costa Rica is too big and only like 9% libertarian (about as much as New Hampshire if we had open multiparty elections here), with many of those "libertarians" being more Milton than David Friedman kind.  They also rank #49 is economic freedom (#5 in Latin America).  The "FIP" would need to start with a small place that isn't crawling with a million non-libertarians and expand from there.  That's why a small island is ideal.
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Bill Brasky

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« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2009, 12:44:07 AM »

You can (probably) enjoy greater freedom in Costa Rica if you're independently wealthy than you can here for the same dollar value.  If you had, say $250k for retirement here, you'd be pretty wealthy there.  Without having to work, living in the "gringo" areas, and only needing to socialize for personal reasons in choice places, you'd probably have a really nice life.  

I wouldn't try to live there on the cheap, though.  You'd probably get chewed to pieces.  

Also, its not an island. 
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« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2009, 12:49:33 AM »

If anyone's actually serious about this, I intend on buying one of those crappy islands off Maine or Nova Scotia someday.

As long as you give allegiance and submit yourself to the beneficient yoke of the God-Empress April :twisted:
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« Reply #70 on: February 28, 2010, 03:41:59 AM »

I was going to bump this thread by suggesting one of the islands of Chile, especially in light of a conservative government just being elected there, but then it backed Argentina's aggression against the Falkland islands (which overwhelmingly choose to be British), and now the quake...  :?


Now I have nothing to bump it with.  Oh horror of horrors, there goes my reputation for never bumping without a good cause...  :lol:
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« Reply #71 on: February 28, 2010, 04:58:14 AM »

What about one of the islands here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Sub-Antarctic_Islands

Most of them are habitable (habitable like Montana is habitable, not habitable like Costa Rica), and unpopulated.
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« Reply #72 on: February 28, 2010, 05:42:09 AM »

Flight time from New Hampshire is a negative.  I understand flying Due South cause you're tired of winter, but flying all the way around the world is ridiculous.  Also Caribbean and Chilean island are more easily accessible from mainland, which means much cheaper and more reliable access to world trade.  No one wants a Robinson Crusoe type of a "liberty island" experience, I want Hong Kong times Las Vegas times ten!
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« Reply #73 on: February 28, 2010, 09:16:18 AM »

_I_ want a liberty island. However, if you don't get more people attracted to your island (or perhaps groups of islands taken over from the En Zed government peacefully?) you'll either get pushed out by men with guns (not just governments - pirates, too) or your descendants might suffer from a "founder's effect" created by centuries of cousins marrying cousins.
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« Reply #74 on: February 28, 2010, 09:35:26 AM »

"Liberty through obscurity" is a self-contradiction.
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