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As a hypothetical thought exercise...  Which of the below islands / archipelagos would be (or contain) the ideal island for the FIP?

Nation of Antigua and Barbuda
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Bahamas
- 2 (5.9%)
Nation of Barbados
- 3 (8.8%)
Nation of Cape Verde  (Atlantic, Pt-Lang)
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Commonwealth of Dominica
- 1 (2.9%)
Nation of Grenada
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Saint Kitts and Nevis
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Saint Lucia
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
- 0 (0%)
Nation of Trinidad and Tobago
- 4 (11.8%)
USA's Virgin Islands
- 6 (17.6%)
USA's Navassa Island  (or USA's other tiny Caribbean islands)
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Anguilla
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Bermuda  (Atlantic)
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Virgin Islands
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Cayman Islands
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Montserrat
- 1 (2.9%)
UK's Turks and Caicos Islands
- 0 (0%)
Netherlands' Aruba
- 1 (2.9%)
Netherlands' Antilles
- 1 (2.9%)
France's Clipperton
- 0 (0%)
France's Guadeloupe
- 0 (0%)
France's Martinique
- 1 (2.9%)
France's Saint Barthélemy
- 0 (0%)
France's Saint Martin
- 1 (2.9%)
France's Saint Pierre and Miquelon
- 3 (8.8%)
Spain's Canary Islands  (Atlantic)
- 1 (2.9%)
Portugal's Azores  (Atlantic)
- 0 (0%)
Portugal's Madeira  (Atlantic)
- 0 (0%)
Other - Caribbean / GoM region
- 2 (5.9%)
Other - Outer Atlantic
- 1 (2.9%)
Other - East Pacific
- 1 (2.9%)

Total Members Voted: 15


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mikehz

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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2008, 09:35:08 PM »

To ensure freedom and independence, one has to be willing to fight for one's rights.

Which pretty much means posessing a nuclear weapon.

Not at all. Many small countries survive just fine without nukes. What it DOES mean is making the effort too great for anyone to bother with. No doubt the Brits could defeat Sealand if they really wanted to do so. But, the cost would be too great.

Many small islands belong to small nations with little in the way of military force. Minerva could easily have defeated Tonga IF the residents had possessed a small gunboat, or 5-inch gun.
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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2008, 09:38:28 PM »

To ensure freedom and independence, one has to be willing to fight for one's rights.

Which pretty much means posessing a nuclear weapon.

Not at all. Many small countries survive just fine without nukes. What it DOES mean is making the effort too great for anyone to bother with. No doubt the Brits could defeat Sealand if they really wanted to do so. But, the cost would be too great.

Many small islands belong to small nations with little in the way of military force. Minerva could easily have defeated Tonga IF the residents had possessed a small gunboat, or 5-inch gun.

I'm talking about creating a new nation. There is no way they're going to put up with you without you being VERY serious about maintining your independance.
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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2008, 09:23:14 PM »

Someplace without island niggers. I'm completely fucking serious.

Any place without this guy. :-\
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« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2008, 09:27:07 PM »

Someplace without island niggers. I'm completely fucking serious.

Any place without this guy. :-\

I said niggers, not black people. Big difference. Don't want any like those in Haiti that are professional porch monkeys. Go catch some fish, motherfucker!
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« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2008, 09:53:14 PM »

How much orange soda will it take to appease them?  :lol:
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« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2008, 10:25:59 PM »

Someplace without island niggers. I'm completely fucking serious.

Any place without this guy. :-\

You'd shoot yourself after a week.
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Jetfire

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« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2008, 10:34:18 PM »

I'm ignorant... whats the "Free Island Project"
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Alex Libman

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« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2008, 10:58:40 PM »

AFAIK, nothing of the sort existed before.  I just started this thread just to brainstorm the possibility.

Same as the Free State Project [WP] but on a smaller scale.  (See first post on this thread for island selection criteria I suggested.)
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« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2008, 11:11:27 PM »

Meh probably gonna move to new Hampshire
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Alex Libman

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« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2008, 11:51:36 PM »

One doesn't really compete with the other.  The NH summer and autumn are beautiful and one usually has enough momentum to go through the holidays, but even the most devoted Free Staters will want some place warm to vacation come February.  ;)
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« Reply #40 on: May 15, 2008, 10:40:24 AM »

How about...an island in New Hampshire?
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Alex Libman

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« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2008, 11:17:52 AM »

Read above.  Very limited choices, and cold as hell in winter.

Artificial islands are an interesting far-future possibility, but that's a completely different fantasy.
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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2008, 12:37:21 PM »

Is anyone interested in the idea at all?  Because I don't have the time to develop it further (do more research, start a Web-site, etc)...
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« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2008, 01:01:06 PM »

Probably not.
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Alex Libman

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« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2008, 01:41:10 PM »

Having seriously considered and summarily rejected the FSP, I think its completely logical to extend this opinion to a fucking island.

I've become skeptical of FSP because of New Hampshire's 1+ million non-libertarians, with more moving from Mass at a rate Free Staters could never match.  An island wouldn't have this problem, and it might even be a sovereign country to begin with.
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