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TimeLady Victorious

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The twenty-one points of Aprilism dictate the following:

1. People are to be relocated from the cities to the country, or otherwise rural areas. Each person shall be allotted no less than five acres of unclaimed land for his or her own. Each family shall receive no less than 40 acres, portions to be given to each child as they reach the age of majority, or a spouse gets half of it in the case of divorce. Land shall devolve to the next of kin in case one should die, or refuse the continued protection of the Aprilist State. This shall constitute both redistribution of land and prevents the risk of land being held too long by the government. An agricultural society is to be encouraged for that seems to be the most sustainable, but as long as the majority of the people in one's Commune don't complain about what one is doing one may do as one wants.

2. The current moneyed incorporations are to be abolished and their assets confiscated by the government in order to fund national improvements, like roads, irrigation pipes, sustainable electricity generation, and fast post-broadband Internet access for each commune. The government will have the monopoly on public water, electricity, telephone and Internet.

3. There are no lifetime copyrights or patent laws. Copyright is valid for ten years; patents for twenty-five. Make money off of them while you can.

4. Money is to be minted in platinum, gold, palladium, silver, copper and tin coins, with a portrait of the Holy Domina April on them. One Aprilist dollar shall be nine-tenths of an ounce silver and one tenth of one ounce being copper, the other denominations and amounts of precious bullion on the coinage to be determined by the Mint and the Parliament every twenty-five years, but one tenth of each coin should be copper (not in the case of copper or tin coins) in order to sustain a long-lasting currency.

5. Certain goods are to be distributed via the government in the style of libertarian socialism. Grey markets may be tolerated in special marketplaces. A tax of ten Aprilist dollars will be paid for the privilege to use these marketplaces.

6. Prisons are to be mostly abolished. Corporal punishment and the death penalty are to be pursued in most cases. There will be a partial end to the prison-industrial complex. There will be no laws on the ingestion of what one wants to eat, but research into what one is smoking, eating, or drinking is to be encouraged.

7. Partial free market measures to be implemented. Private partnerships and businesses in which the proprietor is responsible for what goes wrong are to be encouraged. The government will have no role in giving money to one person or persons if one's business totally fails. That person will always have his or her land to fall back on.

8. Education to be developed as a public-private partnership. Those who score the highest on entrance exams to be admitted into the best colleges and universities.

9. Rebellions against the Holy Domina to be crushed and those who participate in them to be the exceptions to those who are not imprisoned. They will be used as indentured servants by the government for as long a period as the judiciary wishes them to do.

10. There are no limits to be on free speech, religion, press, or assembly as long as nothing about them results in violence towards others or towards agents of the Government. (See point 9.)

11. The Government will not engage in wars abroad. Wars against the Aprilist State shall be concluded in such a way that there is no conquest of territory or undue environmental damage to civilian population centers. The current use of atomic weapons, up to and including the use of depleted uranium, is to be abolished.

12. One may ask to be let loose from the protection of the State at any time. Retaliation on one by groups or persons of those who might not like those who wish to not be protected by the State shall not occur within the borders of the Aprilist State, and, if determined by a court of law that this has happened even outside the borders of the Aprilist State, shall result in one who has physically hurt this person to receive the penalty recommended by the judge.

13. There are to be no jury trials. Each trial shall be supervised by a group of three judges, who have served as barristers before the courts for a period not below seven years, who will then render the sentences as they see fit. Judges to be elected by the People at staggered intervals. The courts of the upper levels shall be elected by the upper house of government of each level of government, up to and including the Parliament of the Aprilist State.

14. Communes of 1000 people will be grouped into Districts of 10 to 100 Communes each. Districts may be grouped into Provinces of 5 to 10 each. The People shall elect the leaders of their Communes, who will then assign delegates to the Districts, the District delegates sending delegates to the Provincial legislatures, who will then send Senators to the upper house of Parliament. The People shall elect Representatives of their Communes to the lower houses, limited to two Representatives per Commune.

15. Each Commune shall decide what taxes it shall impose on the population. They will then send a tenth of that to the District government, which will send a tenth of that to the Provincial government, which shall send a tenth of that to the Government of the Aprilist State. Such will force each element of large government to become large and powerful at the expense of the smaller units. The same goes for those who pay for public water, electricity, Internet or phone to be brought to their land.

16. Postal service thought to be best in private hands shall be left in them, except for correspondence with the Government. Such may be deposited at local Government agencies.

17. There are to be no driver's, boat's, or pilot's licenses however those who damage others with the improper use of their vehicles will be publicly whipped and, if they lack private insurance, forced into indentured servitude to that person or to that person's next of kin for an amount of time not exceeding one year.

18. Private charities are to be encouraged. Aside from your land and a ration of food and water per person each month from the government, expect little else. In the case of life-threatening illness and medicine the Aprilist State will provide you what you need or, in the case of pain medication, the option to supply you with powerful marijuana to use as you see fit.

19. Crime is to be dealt with on as local a basis as possible, but police are to be subject to the same penalties as regular citizens. Any policeman found guilty of corruption is another exception to the "no prisoners" rule and is to be condemned to working in mines or otherwise harsh physical labor, the same of which goes for civil servants found guilty of corruption. White collar crime is to be punished harshly, but in perhaps a harsher manner than so-called "blue collar" crime.

20. Mineral and water rights are the rights of those who have their land and may sell them to whoever they wish for how much the market will pay for them, this including the government.

21. Contracts contracted in one Commune shall always be followed in all other Communes of the Aprilist State, providing those people have not been formally expelled from the Commune or Communes they had contracted said Contract in. Please note that this can mean any kind of contract, from marriage to a contract to use mineral rights. The various Governments are to be considered persons in the reasoning of the legal system.
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Found this in an old notebook, wonder what others here would think of it.
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What happens to all existing land agreements? Pretty much all the land is under contract in some way. How much do I get paid for my mining claims for instance?What about everything that is already owned? Pretty much everything worth a shit in this world is owned by somebody. What happens to those who are doing well and own large amounts of property? Do you just take away their nice spreads they have worked for or do you just kill them, so you don't have any loose ends? Sounds like Cambodia circa 1975 to me.....
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What happens to all existing land agreements? Pretty much all the land is under contract in some way. How much do I get paid for my mining claims for instance?

Wait, edit

I said unclaimed land. If Aprilism sweeps the nation, good bye to most if not all land held by the current governments.

As for mineral rights? As much as the market will pay.

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What happens to those who are doing well and own large amounts of property? Do you just take away their nice spreads they have worked for or do you just kill them, so you don't have any loose ends? Sounds like Cambodia circa 1975 to me.....

Family farms are to be encouraged, but if it's a current agribusiness, too fucking bad, your land goes to people first, then local land, then county land, then state land, last federal land.
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LOL. I suggest going to http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp?MAP=MC and check out the situation. The reality is that about 99% of all the livable land in this country is already spoken for. So you want a mass migration of helpless suburbanite assholes to move on to 5 acres of worthless hard scrabble somewhere in Wyoming ? Uh......OK then...
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April, I think I'm in love.

Lets run off together. I'll wear a mask, and call you Dagny......if thats ok with you.
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LOL. I suggest going to http://www.geocommunicator.gov/blmMap/Map.jsp?MAP=MC and check out the situation. The reality is that about 99% of all the livable land in this country is already spoken for. So you want a mass migration of helpless suburbanite assholes to move on to 5 acres of worthless hard scrabble somewhere in Wyoming ? Uh......OK then...

You underestimate how much land the agribusinesses have.

Then again, if you fail at it: "To keep you is no benefit. To destroy you is no loss."

Joking aside, the Aprilist State is nominally libertarian socialist. You get enough food and water to live on but if you want more you have to work for it.
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No, I didn't under or over estimate land the agri businesses own. I asked what happens to all existing contracts- that includes agri business. You didn't answer my question, and chose to try a cheap insult instead.
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The government will have the monopoly on public water, electricity, telephone and Internet.


Wait, what? First, how come you did not include natural gas? I am a little insulted. Second, why should the government have a monopoly on these things?
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No, I didn't under or over estimate land the agri businesses own. I asked what happens to all existing contracts- that includes agri business. You didn't answer my question, and chose to try a cheap insult instead.

That's not true, I answered the question. The land belonging to the corporation is to be broken up, taken by the State, and then redistributed to refugees from the cities, which shall also have their buildings bulldozed and turned into farmland for people to settle on. (Except for certain areas like factories and hospitals, which would probably be managed by the State at first.)

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Wait, what? First, how come you did not include natural gas? I am a little insulted. Second, why should the government have a monopoly on these things?

OK, natural gas is included now.

The government of the Aprilist State should have a monopoly on those things because A. infrastructure is expensive and B. it's a way to make money without actually taxing people. If you don't like it drill a well or barter for gallons of water from someone, no one's stopping you from doing that in the Aprilist State.
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No, I didn't under or over estimate land the agri businesses own. I asked what happens to all existing contracts- that includes agri business. You didn't answer my question, and chose to try a cheap insult instead.

That's not true, I answered the question.


You didn't answer anything. I asked what happens to all existing contracts. This means ALL existing ownership of land. You have said nothing to address this.....
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aprilism would be soo much better then the system we have now...that being said, fuck aprilism
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What about pedo's.
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this is probably what the ruskies were told when they started their great commie adventure
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No, I didn't under or over estimate land the agri businesses own. I asked what happens to all existing contracts- that includes agri business. You didn't answer my question, and chose to try a cheap insult instead.

That's not true, I answered the question.


You didn't answer anything. I asked what happens to all existing contracts. This means ALL existing ownership of land. You have said nothing to address this.....

If it's held by a corporation it gets taken. It was stated in the OP that assets held by corporations get confiscated. No joint-stock companies. This is in order to encourage personal responsibility for one's business. If you yourself personally own a thousand acres you can keep all or as little of it as you want, as long as you make actual use of it and it's not located in an urban area (quasi-geolibertarianism?), because under Aprilism there will be no urban areas. The only "fictional persons" would be the various levels of governments, and then only for legal purposes, they would have none of the rights that an actual person has.

Also, this would get rid of that ALL CAPS YOU'RE A CORPORATION conspiracy theory. Heh.

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aprilism would be soo much better then the system we have now...that being said, fuck aprilism

If you don't like the Aprilist State, you may leave. There will be no property taxes so you won't owe any taxes. No income tax, either, so we won't pursue you across the border to get our money. The State takes no responsibility for the safety of your property while you're gone, though.

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What about pedo's.

If you rape a little girl that would, and should, be decided on the local basis. If you're fucking someone who's been legally emancipated from his or her family (maybe automatic at 14?) no one would be allowed to call the police on you as long as you're not physically assaulting that person. As for child porn, well, freedom of speech and of the press as long as you're not inciting violence towards anybody.

this is probably what the ruskies were told when they started their great commie adventure

Nope, they were told that all land would be combined. I'm just talking about a lot of it.
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If you don't like the Aprilist State, you may leave.
I've never heard that response to someone saying a gov is unjust before.

aprilism violates my absolute right of self ownership
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