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So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« on: October 26, 2011, 02:30:20 PM »

I was listening to FTL the other day and they were talking about their experience with the full strength Vaporsmiths e-cig.  They pretty much said it had no effect compared to the nicotene free stuff.  As a social smoker only, this news sucks! 
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 03:03:20 PM »

Nooooooo, thats not right.

You definitely get a buzz. I dont know about Vaporsmiths because I haven't used them myself, but any of the liquids 24mg strength or higher I've ever ordered gives a good buzz. Even better than a regular cig.
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 03:10:58 PM »

I don't remember if I had any particular comment about it at the time, but I find the 18mg to be buzz equivalent to the Marlboro ultra lights I used to smoke.
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 07:25:49 PM »

I haven't consumed a tobacco product in over 18 months and the urinalysis I ran a month ago was positive for hydroxycotinin - one of nicotines main metabolites.  The typical vaper inhale is much different than a cigarette smoker and I'd bet the absorption rates are different but we are getting it and can get the nic buzz and if push comes to shove, the nic overdose as well.
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2011, 07:50:23 PM »

the nic overdose?  What are you talking about?  What's the danger?
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 07:54:35 PM »

the nic overdose?  What are you talking about?  What's the danger?

IT KILL YOU!!
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 07:58:02 PM »

I got a stuffy nose.  Is that what you're talking about?
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 05:55:10 AM »

Nicotine can be fatal, but vaping it wouldn't be a way to do that.  I buy it in a somewhat concentrated form of 10% nicotine, or 100mg/ml and dilute from there.  A toxic dose is .6-1mg/kg bodyweight.  That means the average 200lb person could die from as little as 54 mg of nicotine.  That's 1/2 a ml of the concentrate I use and about 3-4ml of the average ready to use juice.  That is also the amount of nicotine in 4-5 cigarettes.  The reason vaping and smoking doesn't kill you is absorption ability.  A cigarette releases about 10-12mg of nicotine, of which the body only absorbs about 1mg.  Assuming similar absorption rates, it would be impossible to use enough liquid to reach that kind of concentration in the body before your body breaks down the nicotine through vaping.  I think it may be possible if we skip the vaporizer and instead focus on nebulizing the liquid.

The stuffy nose is pretty common reaction to the pg in the liquid used.  PG and VG are both potent humectants and can dehydrate you quite a bit on exhale.  That 'smoke' is really fog, using water from your own body.  Drinking extra water helps with this quite a bit.  Also, some people are sensitive to pg and can get stuffy nose with it.  I had huge stuffy nose issues when I quit cigarettes to vaping and learned the hydration thing quick.  The stuffy nose thing seems to last just a week or two though.

Common nonlethal signs of nicotine overdose: increased metabolism, insomnia, nausea, vomiting, headaches, shortness of breath, heart palpitations, sweating and pale skin similar to a heart attack.  Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor so I'm sure it probably can cause some short duration hypertension.
That said, it's also quite often prescribed by phyicians overseas as a weight loss product.
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 08:21:07 AM »

I'm loving VaporSmiths. I smoked three packs of ciggs a day for decades, am now off them completely for almost three weeks, doing VaporSmiths. Love 'em.

Yes, they give you a nicotine buzz. It's nice. And without the side-effects of smoke, which are just generally feeling kinda sick and low-energy all the time.

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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 10:06:30 AM »

...and if push comes to shove, the nic overdose as well.

I got that the first night I tried them. I was on lights (12mg). But then I was a non-smoker so... I switched to ultra-lights (6mg).

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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2011, 10:07:20 AM »

the nic overdose?  What are you talking about?  What's the danger?

Nausea is a big one. I was quite nauseous for several hours. Then the viagra effect that wakes you up in the middle of the night.

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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2011, 03:36:34 PM »

I'm a once a week social pipe tobacco smoker but I just ordered a vapor smith's so I can smoke in my delivery truck at work. I've tried e-cigs from friends and I definitely get a buzz, but then again I'm not a regular smoker.
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2011, 03:45:03 PM »

I'm getting a buzz right now from my ultra-lights. Again, non-smoker here. This is prolly a lot of nicotine for a non-smoker.

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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2011, 05:29:43 PM »

I'm loving VaporSmiths. I smoked three packs of ciggs a day for decades, am now off them completely for almost three weeks, doing VaporSmiths. Love 'em.

Yes, they give you a nicotine buzz. It's nice. And without the side-effects of smoke, which are just generally feeling kinda sick and low-energy all the time.

MWD

Mike, if you don't mind, how many cartos are you using per day? I went through seven or eight in the car on Saturday and I feel like I must be doing it wrong.
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Re: So You Can't Get a Buzz From E-Cigs?
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2011, 06:45:51 PM »

About 5 a day here too.
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