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1,000 accusations that I'm a racist.

1 posts on topic that's willing to share at least some info.

Sounds like most of the people here who are calling me out as a bigot, racist and whatnot would rather keep making accusations than take the opportunity to back up those claims. Meanwhile, those lurking on the sidelines go without the extra entertainment (and are probably too scared to make a comment that might back me up).

Do you dream of it?



No, I haven't dreamed of thread statistics or accusations, lurkers, etc.

That was not an attempt to obfuscate but rather provide an answer of the same quality as the question.

I will be using bland sentence structure to prevent confusion.

I have been in more stare-downs than actual fights and usually there is a bit of intimidation present in any physical altercation.

These stare downs have occurred with males of various colors and/or ethnicities. Including a Pacific Islander, surprisingly.

Other than normal bumps and bruises I have not been physically harmed as a result of these tussles. I have had close friends who were not as lucky as myself.

Intimidation during a one-on-one altercation has been an experience of mine indeed. I have found that the intimidation factor increases exponentially when the number of your adversaries greatly outnumber your allies. Assuming that you have allies.. and are not lost and alone in the heart of Anacostia, DC (a "woman of color", respected in the neighborhood, saved my ass).

Worthy of note: by far, all fights I've been in were with males, and most often white.

What was a white male like me doing going off on his own in Anacostia?

A better question would be "Why should it be of such concern for a white male to be in Anacostia alone?"

I was there to attend a dedication ceremony and to install a sculpture I had helped create that is exhibited in the Museum and center for African American history and culture.

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I imagine you are setting the stage for a climactic revelation of some sort. We can skip these boring stages of the production and get straight to the finish, as questions about intimidation do not directly address race and racism, which is the topic.

It is also curious you introduced the topic of rape specifically, as if it had somehow been present or mentioned in the thread previously. Perhaps this is a "breadcrumb" of sorts that has some pertinence to something you will mention in the future. It is not a matter of memory but instead common knowledge that rape is violent. Perhaps you wish to discuss rape statistics in the US and how that relates to racism? Or perhaps you have some experience with that subject you'd like to share.

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I'll talk about race with ya, but I'm not up for any more drama or lengthy posts.



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Your (strait) jacket is waiting in your room..
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Your (strait) jacket is waiting in your room..

Eh?
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This is crucial viewing. A very serious Ethnographic study. Drop what you're doing and learn your brain for about 45 minutes.

How Black People See White Culture - a must see!
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So let me get this straight mutherfucker. You want to discuss racism in a open way using words that only some races have permission to use being honest of groups of dipshits doing scarey shit and ganging up on people who don't match them but you have to understand lonely white guy getting your ass kicked you are the racist. I'll tell you that in my youth I saw a gang of Mormons playing basketball as I watched and they squared up shoulder to shoulder and asked me if I wanted to join them. I ...am using that new American language I learned on the onion.

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So let me get this straight mutherfucker. You want to discuss racism in a open way using words that only some races have permission to use being honest of groups of dipshits doing scarey shit and ganging up on people who don't match them but you have to understand lonely white guy getting your ass kicked you are the racist. I'll tell you that in my youth I saw a gang of Mormons playing basketball as I watched and they squared up shoulder to shoulder and asked me if I wanted to join them. I ...am using that new American language I learned on the onion.


Al, what are you saying?
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That was my attempt at "incomprehensible shouting" how did I do?
Guess I have kind of had it with calling out racists, especially when there isn't one in a practical sense. I really wanted to bring it up on that Detroit Blood kill thread. The fact that the sickening way the black community acted wasn't brought up because we are all afraid of looking racist is a problem. Let me put it this way. Kids of a certain race killing Innocent acquaintances to prove to some scum bag that they will blindly obey him is a problem. For everybody. And justifying it by saying some white biker gangs do the same thing, won't address the problem. I don't like the way we walk on eggshells whenever racism brings it ugly head up. I am not going to pretend it ain't there.

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Culturally race can play a role in society.  But that is only cultural.  There are some examples in health and biology that can makes races different and there are a lot of theories on why that is. 

Personally though we are all pretty much the same.  I don't see why it is an important topic for people to even discuss.


I feel most black people are in the situation they are in more so because of what government has done in the past and what government is doing now.


I understand where the OP is coming from but I don't get why it is such a big deal.  There are a lot of reasons why most black people in inner cities are is terrible situations.
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I get you Al.

It doesn't matter where you grow up or how bad a slum you come from, you know when you're doing wrong (violence to another person) so environment is just a lame excuse for bad behavior.
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I get you Al.

It doesn't matter where you grow up or how bad a slum you come from, you know when you're doing wrong (violence to another person) so environment is just a lame excuse for bad behavior.

If you grew up on an island where everyone ran around with no clothes on, you would think that wearing clothes was pretty fucking weird.

Not to excuse murdering people, but its the same idea if you grow up around that shit from the day you are born. You become desensitized to it I'd imagine. At the same time though, I have no problem with peope like that running around and killing each other either. Just sucks when someone else gets caught in the crossfire, or in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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That's bullshit.  you still know right from wrong.
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That's bullshit.  you still know right from wrong.


Maybe, maybe not.

Just look at this country. We put up with all kinds of bullshit that we would NEVER put up with just 50 years ago. Its all about what you become used to. You become numbed, desensitized to it. Sure, deep down you might know its wrong, but you really dont care that much.

"Someone got shot? Pffft..... happens every day round here......... no biggie."
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not hearing about it - doing it.
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not hearing about it - doing it.

Same thing.

You follow your big brother around all day, looking up to him while he goes around talking to his friends how he did his first kill to get into the gang. You wanna be like him..... its all you know and have ever known. It happens alot.

Im in no way excusing it, or taking blame away from them for the way they see the world, or blaming society and all that bleeding heart bullshit. Im simply saying THATS HOW IT IS. You think they just woke up one day, and turned from being a perfectly functioning person, to suddenly being a sociopathic asshole who doesn't care about life or death?

I frankly dont give a fuck about those people....... not even a little bit. Just saying thats why they are the way they are.


They're animals.

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On second though Fred, I agree with you, they were just born that way. They came out of the womb as killers.


I was wrong.
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