Should Bridget stay on the Shrine?

Yes

82 (57.3%)

No

61 (42.7%)

Total Members Voted: 37

[csmith71]

My very first post and it has to come in regards to this?  Ouch!

My vote is yes, let her stay.  She lives her life as a woman and considers herself to be a woman.

And those of you, including Manwhich, who describe her as a freek or sick need to get your heads out of your asses and join the rest of us in the 21st century.  That's SO backwards thinking.

Chris

[Grey]

Please, the "it's the 21 st" century line is completely irrelevant and without base...

so normalcy is based on what century we're in?

hmm yeah... I guess racism was accepted 120 yrs ago... "c'mon man, it's the 19th century you're allowed to own & abuse black people"... give me a break

[She God]

Isn’t Manwich really a bit of a hypocrite? He wails and whines (and wails some more) that he doesn’t want the Shrine of Female listener to be a "freak show". So what does he go and do? Adds himself in such a way that it's mocking the whole process. Isn’t this all a self-fulfilled prophecy? Perhaps we would have never even gotten another transsexual  person asking to join. So Manwich is the one (and the only one I really think) who made it a freak show. Oh sure it's all tongue-and-cheek, but it still doesn’t changce the fact that I think he's cheapening the whole thing all by himself.

I vote yes to keep her in.

Although I can understand why some might vote no because she hasn’t had the surgery yet. I hope to hell all of you would vote yes then to all post-operation transsexuals then. Otherwise you'll also be hypocrites. If someone has had the surgery I think you *should* let them in. If they haven’t…well. I'd still let them but I can see why they wouldn’t.

Bridgett sees herself as a woman, and I will respect that. It’s a hard pillar to stand on, especially since so many want to call you "freak" and knock you down. I'd just like to shake her hand because I think she's a stronger person then I. I don’t know if I could publicly admit to someone something that would cause so much scorn if our situations were reversed.

Also is anyone else tired of Manwich saying she should go into a "Shrine Of Transvestites"? A transvestite is a *man* who wants to just dress like a woman, such as drag queens (Although that's an extreme example, not all transvestites are like that) Bridgett is a transsexual. They are a *woman* who was born a man. They are currently trying to correct that problem.

Please, the "it's the 21 st" century line is completely irrelevant and without base...

so normalcy is based on what century we're in?

hmm yeah... I guess racism was accepted 120 yrs ago... "c'mon man, it's the 19th century you're allowed to own & abuse black people"... give me a break

Oh "please" yourself. It’s just an expression, meaning that we're in modern times, so we should be acting like it. Racism is a old as time,  its because of progressive thinking that we finally realized how absurd it is to hate someone just because of the color of their skin.

[TheOmni]

I just want to put my vote firmly in the keep her column.  Unfortunately due to my habit of working and missing FTL and listening to it all in a bunch whenever I get some tie off I didn't hear about this controversy til just now.  But I certainly support Bridget.

[FTL_Ian]

For those of you who did not see Manwich's mean "Womanwich" pic, here it is:

http://freetalklive.com/images/womanwich.jpg
I have linked to it because of its disturbing nature.

[shanek]

I'm for keeping Bridget on the shrine, if for no other reason that it pisses off Brokor.

[Lindsey]

For those of you who did not see Manwich's mean "Womanwich" pic, here it is:

http://freetalklive.com/images/womanwich.jpg
I have linked to it because of its disturbing nature.

Oh my Lord.  I hadn't seen that.  It's quite disturbing.  But nice sign...

[Russ84]

I actually think it's a good new look for Manwich err... Womanwich.

[jtbreeze]

Please, the "it's the 21 st" century line is completely irrelevant and without base...

so normalcy is based on what century we're in?

hmm yeah... I guess racism was accepted 120 yrs ago... "c'mon man, it's the 19th century you're allowed to own & abuse black people"... give me a break

Yes, it matters. It isn't the superficial "when" we are, but all of the context within which we exist that matters. The superficial "when" is just a label for that context.

[libertylover]

Around and round we go.  The question wasn't about Bridgets correctness in feeling that she is a woman.  Each side already knows were they stand and neither side is going to change the other side's mind with their arguments.  The bigger question is should Bridget stay on the Shrine? 

It is a marketing question.  Are there enough who feel that people should be free to consider themselves whatever they wish and want to keep her on the shrine.  Or are there enough who are upset and feel it isn't right that she should be on the shrine.  And will those who are upset buggeroff and discontinue supporting the show. 

Ultimately, it is Ian's choice because he has ownership of the show.  If he feels that Bridget doesn't generate enough attention he will most likely take the photo down.  And sometimes negative attention can work for you.  I bet because of this the shrine is getting way more hits than otherwise would be normal.  So if you really think about it from a marketing perspective and your goal is to garner more attention to the show.  Then you would have to say Bridget is the best thing that could have happened to the Shrine..  With of course WOMANWICH being a close 2nd. 

BTW Womanwich you are bringing out those undiscovered latent lasbian tendencies, oh baby baby.

[BKO]

I'm for keeping Bridget on the shrine, if for no other reason that it pisses off Brokor.

haha, you bitch.   Nah, I really don't care, like I said before.  The shrine is aweful in my opinion.  "Bridget", who I like to now call Gus, is just another face.  Thankfully, we do not have to see more of Gus.

[shanek]

Nah, I really don't care, like I said before.

You seem to spend an awful lot of time and energy posting about it for something you don't care about...

[Lindsey]

I don't think the shrine is going to help market the show in any way.  Especially with our shrine.  Like Ian says, it's really not a beauty contest.  And our Publishers' Clearing House Winners just aren't gonna get that big affiliate...

[Grey]

I'm for keeping Bridget on the shrine, if for no other reason that it pisses off Brokor.

haha, you bitch.   Nah, I really don't care, like I said before.  The shrine is aweful in my opinion.  "Bridget", who I like to now call Gus, is just another face.  Thankfully, we do not have to see more of Gus.

lol... "Gus"

that's great.

[jtbreeze]

I say get rid of the shrine. Its lame.