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Title: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on November 25, 2009, 04:19:21 PM
I started selling & shipping baklava online back in September after some testing through my online gaming group.  It's been a great success through their site, eBay, and Etsy.  I thought I'd post something here in off topics in case anyone was interested.  I set up a basic website at http://www.mandrik.com (http://www.mandrik.com) that has slightly better deals than what I have on eBay & Etsy (since I avoid their fees this way).  My inspiration to start doing this came from FTL.  For years I wanted to make & sell baklava online, but I was always worried about different government regulations regarding these types of things.  I started listening to FTL late this past summer and absolutely loved the show.  I became an AMPlifier and decided that I would go with my idea of selling baklava online as a form of civil disobedience.  It's a small, but important, step for me in the direction of liberty.


I turn 30 in April and have been baking baklava since I was 13.  My parents came over on a boat from Greece back in the 60's.  I took my grandmother's recipe and modified it over the years to create what I've dubbed as Mandrik's Melt-In-Your-Mouth Baklava.  I'm obsessed with making the best baklava, so I always buy the best ingredients.  I don't use clover honey, but rather buckwheat honey, which gives my baklava amazing flavor.  I've sold about 20 pans worth of orders since September so I think it's safe to say people really like it.  :)  I seal orders in wax paper, put that in a plastic container, bubble wrap & box it, and then ship via USPS Priority Mail.

Baklava ingredients: Fillo dough, walnuts, butter, sugar, buckwheat honey, water, cinnamon, clove, lime juice

Thanks!

Mandrik's Baklava (http://www.mandrik.com)

(http://www.mandrik.com/baklava/baklava-pan.jpg)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: blackie on November 25, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
Nice. You can move around with that job. There was a Greek pizza joint with a couple video games at the end of my street when I was growing up, and they sold pretty good baklava.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on November 25, 2009, 05:24:35 PM
Ooo, finally someone spamming something that I want.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on November 25, 2009, 05:34:08 PM
I don't eat anything sweet, sorry.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on November 25, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
Ooo, finally someone spamming something that I want.

I'm assuming you just placed the order that came to my inbox.  Thanks!  Due to the holiday weekend I won't be shipping any orders out until Monday.  I like to make sure the baklava spends as little time as possible being shipped so I hope this is cool with you.  :)  Be sure to let me know what you think  once you receive it!
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on November 25, 2009, 10:15:06 PM
Good for you, man.  Looks tasty. 

Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on November 25, 2009, 11:21:38 PM
Ooo, finally someone spamming something that I want.

I'm assuming you just placed the order that came to my inbox.  Thanks!  Due to the holiday weekend I won't be shipping any orders out until Monday.  I like to make sure the baklava spends as little time as possible being shipped so I hope this is cool with you.  :)  Be sure to let me know what you think  once you receive it!

I'm a sucker for baklava.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on November 25, 2009, 11:34:34 PM
My baklava is definitely my own style of making it.  I've taken the advice from a lot of foodie friends, one of which is a food critic, and slowly turned my family's recipe into something quite different.  I didn't want my baklava to be the typical kind where you bit down, taste the fillo & syrup, and then get overwhelmed by the walnuts.  I grind my walnuts fine and have over 50 layers of fillo.  My syrup has the unique flavor from the buckwheat honey.  The clove & cinnamon stand out, too.  I used to use normal, store brand cinnamon until I ordered the extra fancy Vietnamese from Penzeys (my favorite spice store).  Plain 'ol cinnamon is not allowed in my house any more, and you'll know what I mean when you taste my baklava.  I have to actually use a lot less than normal because it's so strong.  My goal was to have a consistent flavor in every bite, and I think I've created that.  This is what gives it the melt-in-your-mouth experience.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on November 26, 2009, 12:00:44 AM
It did look like it had a lot of layers. I will definitely let you know.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on November 26, 2009, 12:47:20 AM
IT IS NUMBER ONE BAKLAVA IN ALL OF BAKLAVASTAN

Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on November 26, 2009, 04:13:30 AM
Is this for real?  And baklava...ebay?  Wat.   :D
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: AOD_Horseman on November 26, 2009, 04:21:56 AM
Egad, man, sold!

This stuff looks (and sounds, from the description) amazing. Now to check my bank account...
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on November 26, 2009, 05:29:59 AM
Ooo, finally someone spamming something that I want.

Wish I had money :(
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on November 26, 2009, 07:31:08 AM
Wish I had money  :(

Get a job.  Or have sex with nasty old men - problem solved.   :lol:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on November 26, 2009, 08:44:16 AM
Is this for real?  And baklava...ebay?  Wat.   :D

(http://www.mandrik.com/etc/ftl/baklava-scam.jpg)

:)

I took a couple last-minute local orders for pans of baklava, and I'm about to head out to deliver them.  I assure you, this is very legit.  I know I'm new to these boards (which I have mostly been lurking), but I promise only the finest in baked heaven. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on November 26, 2009, 08:44:51 AM
Wish I had money  :(

Get a job.  Or have sex with nasty old men - problem solved.   :lol:


Not many places are hiring, and I don't like sex as it is, let alone sex with nasty old men.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Ecolitan on November 26, 2009, 10:46:40 AM
You're doing it wrong.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on November 26, 2009, 11:11:13 AM
You're doing it wrong.

This.

Also, Mandrik - pretty cool.  I've never had baklava, and I think my Greek co-workers would skewer me if they knew.  I don't like nuts in my food, but the idea of finely ground nuts kind of appeals to me.  Looks delicious. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on November 26, 2009, 11:48:17 AM
Maybe we should order some for Ian - he needs to put some meat on them bones.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: mikehz on November 26, 2009, 12:10:17 PM
My wife learned to make baklava years ago from a Jordanian friend. My wife now makes many pans of the stuff every holiday season, and it is in great demand. It's far superior to anything from the local Greek restaurants. But, she's tried shipping it to our daughter on the other side of the country, and it just does not travel well. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on November 26, 2009, 12:44:08 PM
It actually does travel well, but it's all in how you package it. I've had zero complaints about the packaging since I started. I seal the baklava in wax paper (basically by melting the sheets together), wrap that up in a plastic container, bubble wrap that, and then put it in a box. From there I make sure the box has enough packaging inside so there is very little movement during shipping. I've had friends take picture of what the baklava looks like once they received it and it looks identical and tastes great.

As for taste, baklava can be made a million different ways. Everyone likes to think their recipe is the best. I love my recipe, but that doesn't mean everyone will agree. You can't make everyone happy, although I haven't had any complaints yet. I'll just keep doing my thing.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on November 26, 2009, 02:07:29 PM
It actually does travel well, but it's all in how you package it. I've had zero complaints about the packaging since I started. I seal the baklava in wax paper (basically by melting the sheets together), wrap that up in a plastic container, bubble wrap that, and then put it in a box. From there I make sure the box has enough packaging inside so there is very little movement during shipping. I've had friends take picture of what the baklava looks like once they received it and it looks identical and tastes great.

As for taste, baklava can be made a million different ways. Everyone likes to think their recipe is the best. I love my recipe, but that doesn't mean everyone will agree. You can't make everyone happy, although I haven't had any complaints yet. I'll just keep doing my thing.

Do you use a kitchen torch to melt the paper together?  Or something else? 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on November 26, 2009, 02:39:53 PM
I tried a couple methods. Surprisingly, the cheapest one worked--a clothing iron. I just clean any excess wax off the iron while it's still hot. I know it sounds primitive, but it works great and takes a lot less time than other ways. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on November 26, 2009, 03:44:21 PM
I tried a couple methods. Surprisingly, the cheapest one worked--a clothing iron. I just clean any excess wax off the iron while it's still hot. I know it sounds primitive, but it works great and takes a lot less time than other ways. 

Actually that sounds about the easiest way you could do it.  :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on November 26, 2009, 11:52:56 PM
I don't like nuts in my food... 


hehehhe.


Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on November 27, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
I don't like nuts in my food... 


hehehhe.




I like nuts.  Just separate from my food.   :wink:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on November 30, 2009, 11:13:36 AM
I sent your order out today.  Be sure to let me know what you think!  :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 02, 2009, 05:07:59 PM
Came today. It held up well during shipping. I ate a piece and put the rest in the fridge, but even warm it was the best I ever had. It's so tender, and the honey flavor isn't overpowering.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 02, 2009, 05:17:57 PM
That's what I like to hear.  :)  I strive for balance!  Glad you enjoyed it, and you will likely enjoy it more when it's chilled.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Harry Tuttle on December 02, 2009, 05:35:32 PM
I don't eat anything sweet, sorry.

Dude. Do you just seriously hate your own life so much that you will not let yourself enjoy anything associated with humanity or life? If there were past lives you must have been the monk locked in a cell wearing a hairshirt and not speaking for 30 years.

Let go of the self-loathing and embrace life. Of course, for you, that would probably be the ultimate torture.   :P

Your life is finite. Drink some sugary drinks, eat a meatball sub, watch a stupid movie, laugh, cry, live. The only consistent principle I can divine from your behavior on this message board is hatred of human happiness.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on December 02, 2009, 08:40:06 PM
I don't eat anything sweet, sorry.

Dude. Do you just seriously hate your own life so much that you will not let yourself enjoy anything associated with humanity or life? If there were past lives you must have been the monk locked in a cell wearing a hairshirt and not speaking for 30 years.

Let go of the self-loathing and embrace life. Of course, for you, that would probably be the ultimate torture.   :P

Your life is finite. Drink some sugary drinks, eat a meatball sub, watch a stupid movie, laugh, cry, live. The only consistent principle I can divine from your behavior on this message board is hatred of human happiness.


The only pleasure worth pursuing is the pleasure of your enemies begging for a faster death after the first of their 10,000 cuts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_slicing)!  :evil:


Bon Appétit!
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 02, 2009, 09:20:49 PM
Oh god, this shit is good.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 02, 2009, 09:34:45 PM
Oh god, this shit is good.

Isn't it amazing how much the flavor really stands out when it's chilled?  It just melts in your mouth.  I think the biggest shock to a lot of people is how much I grind the walnuts.  I think this is what brings the most balance to the flavor.  Walnuts are so overpowering, so I figured the fine grind would work best.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 03, 2009, 01:04:53 PM
If you're looking to have an order for Christmas, there is no harm in ordering ahead of time & letting me know it's a Christmas order.  Be sure to note on the Paypal notes section so I don't ship it out earlier!  I can ship it out Monday, Dec 21, or go as late as the 22nd (don't wait last minute, though!).  Shipping it out that Monday assures you'll have your order in time.  I plan on doing a ton of baking the weekend before Christmas, so just let me know.

Thanks!

Oh, and if you're shipping it to someone else and would like a personalized note, just let me know.  I can include that.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 03, 2009, 02:37:33 PM
The more I look at it the more absolutely mind-numbingly delicious it looks.   :lol:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Osborne on December 03, 2009, 02:45:44 PM
This makes me tingle in my naughty places.

(http://www.mandrik.com/baklava/baklava-pan.jpg)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 03, 2009, 07:34:44 PM
This makes me tingle in my naughty places.

There will be much naughty place tingling in your near future.  :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 03, 2009, 07:37:33 PM
This makes me tingle in my naughty places.

(http://www.mandrik.com/baklava/baklava-pan.jpg)

I take it you bought some?   :lol:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Zat on December 03, 2009, 10:16:11 PM
Oh god, this shit is good.

That's all the review I need, will be ordering some for the holiday dinner visit I think.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 03, 2009, 10:20:54 PM
Oh god, this shit is good.

That's all the review I need, will be ordering some for the holiday dinner visit I think.

I can't order any more for awhile. I couldn't stop eating it. It's all gone.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 03, 2009, 10:38:25 PM
I can't order any more for awhile. I couldn't stop eating it. It's all gone.

A buddy of mine ordered a double.  Once he opened the box up, he put the containers in the fridge for a couple hours.  When he finally got a chance to sample some he ended up eating an entire container within 15 minutes, and proceeded to pass out on the couch for a few hours.  His wife hid the other container from him, but it was gone within a couple days.  It's dangerous stuff!

I think I have a new slogan for my "business."  How does, "Civil disobedience never tasted so good" sound?  :P
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Harry Tuttle on December 03, 2009, 11:01:29 PM
There will be much naughty place tingling in your near future.  :)

Fortune baklava?
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 03, 2009, 11:28:35 PM
I think I have a new slogan for my "business."  How does, "Civil disobedience never tasted so good" sound?  :P

MAKES YOU WISH YOU WERENT AN ATHIEST SO YOU CAN EAT IT IN HEAVEN FOR ALL ETERNITY
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 03, 2009, 11:29:13 PM
You put crack in it, don't you? I knew it.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 03, 2009, 11:35:45 PM
You put crack in it, don't you? I knew it.

I have a feeling crack rock would be cheaper than buckwheat honey.  Freaking stuff is expensive.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Robin on December 04, 2009, 01:47:45 AM
i bet hash butter would be good in this

 :D


if my greek motherinlaw didnt piss me off so much i would send her some for christmas
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 08, 2009, 09:20:41 PM
My cousin actually asked me to bake a pan using a pound of hash brother that her brother could make for me.  I'm tempted, but my wife wouldn't appreciate me bringing it into the home.  Plus I wouldn't want to contaminate my baking supplies.  I'd do it at my cousin's with her supplies if she paid me. :P  I wouldn't touch the stuff but obviously have zero problems with people doing whatever they want to their own bodies.
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Post by: Rillion on December 08, 2009, 11:20:18 PM
Okay, I ordered some.  Looking forward to it.   :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 08, 2009, 11:36:17 PM
Cool!  I just made some earlier today so I'll ship it out tomorrow.  :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 08, 2009, 11:40:32 PM
I keep drooling over these pictures!
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 08, 2009, 11:44:22 PM
I keep drooling over these pictures!

Quit drooling, and just order some.   :P

 :D
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 08, 2009, 11:45:47 PM
I keep drooling over these pictures!

Quit drooling, and just order some.   :P

 :D

I'll have to consult my other half.   :wink:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 08, 2009, 11:47:06 PM
Every time I talk to my wife about something she makes me do laundry.  Or wash dishes.  I'm somebody's bitch.   :x
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 08, 2009, 11:50:55 PM
Every time I talk to my wife about something she makes me do laundry.  Or wash dishes.  I'm somebody's bitch.   :x

That sucks.  You make delicious baklava, she should wash dishes.   :lol:

He doesn't make me do anything.  I'd just need him to take the baklava away from me, lest I eat it all in one sitting. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 08, 2009, 11:53:50 PM
If my wife could reply she'd probably just tell you that I have cleaning OCD when it comes to MY kitchen.  I work until 12:30AM, and usually go straight to bed when I get home, but if there are dirty dishes/pots in the sink I won't be able to sleep until they are clean.

She's not really a fan of baklava either.  Guess that's a good thing since I don't have to worry about her eating all my profits.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 08, 2009, 11:55:39 PM
If my wife could reply she'd probably just tell you that I have cleaning OCD when it comes to MY kitchen.  I work until 12:30AM, and usually go straight to bed when I get home, but if there are dirty dishes/pots in the sink I won't be able to sleep until they are clean.

She's not really a fan of baklava either.  Guess that's a good thing since I don't have to worry about her eating all my profits.

Haha.  Yeah, my parents would scream at me if I ever left a dirty dish in the sink.  We always had a dishwasher growing up, but never used it.  And even now as an adult I don't use them (partially because I can't properly load one).  I hate seeing dishes in the sink.  When I cook dinner everything but the plates we eat off of are clean before I sit down to eat.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 08, 2009, 11:58:56 PM
OMG you are as crazy as me!  If I cook dinner for the family, or a bunch of people, I won't leave the kitchen until I clean all the pots, utensils, and whatever else was used to cook the food.  There is nothing I hate more than eating a great meal and then walking into the kitchen to a giant mess. 

I also have a dishwasher, but I use that a lot.  I still hand wash stuff all the time, too.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 09, 2009, 12:04:22 AM
OMG you are as crazy as me!  If I cook dinner for the family, or a bunch of people, I won't leave the kitchen until I clean all the pots, utensils, and whatever else was used to cook the food.  There is nothing I hate more than eating a great meal and then walking into the kitchen to a giant mess. 

I also have a dishwasher, but I use that a lot.  I still hand wash stuff all the time, too.

That's what happens on thanksgiving.  Everyone else just wants to leave it and I want the mess gone as soon as we're done eating. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 09, 2009, 12:56:45 AM
I wash so many dishes around here I had to start using gloves because my hands started getting all dry and cracked.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 09, 2009, 12:57:05 AM
BTW, I think I gained 3 lbs from eating that baklava.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 09, 2009, 01:01:30 AM
I wash so many dishes around here I had to start using gloves because my hands started getting all dry and cracked.

I should wear gloves, since I spend money on acrylic nails.  I'm bad about it though.  At least I wear them when I use abrasive chemicals in the bathroom now.   :lol:

BTW, I think I gained 3 lbs from eating that baklava.

Russ told me he won't eat baklava from the internetz.   :x
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 09, 2009, 01:12:35 AM
Russ told me he won't eat baklava from the internetz.   :x

More for you.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 09, 2009, 01:19:08 AM
Russ told me he won't eat baklava from the internetz.   :x

More for you.

I'm not sure why.  Even the fact that Rillion placed an order didn't convince him.  Epic pickles from John Shaw and baklava...best foods of the BBS.   8)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 09, 2009, 01:28:58 AM
Fuck, Shaw better make some more pickles. Miniscule sodium diet be damned.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 09, 2009, 01:32:20 AM
Fuck, Shaw better make some more pickles. Miniscule sodium diet be damned.

I think he will if we ask.  And by ask, I mean say it with PayPal.   :lol:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Osborne on December 09, 2009, 01:37:50 AM
John Shaw is busy with zombies. Do not bother him with your pickle cravings.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 09, 2009, 01:55:48 AM
John Shaw is busy with zombies. Do not bother him with your pickle cravings.

How dare you.   :lol:

Okay, pickles after zombies.  I tell you though, never had a better pickle in mah life.   :wink:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Osborne on December 09, 2009, 02:29:47 PM
So that lasted a whole ten minutes. Expect another couple dozen orders from Defiance.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 09, 2009, 03:11:42 PM
So that lasted a whole ten minutes. Expect another couple dozen orders from Defiance.

A whole freaking pan in 10 minutes?!  OMG dude, that's crazy.  I take it you just gave it to all your employees and they destroyed it.

What did you personally think?
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Osborne on December 09, 2009, 04:02:47 PM
Dude, it was ridiculous. I have never had anything like that in my mouth.

I have had baklava from the store and have never been a fan. This shit was unreal. So gooey and fresh and delicious.

I was a little skeptical about the price. This doesn't seem like much food for that much money. But, boy howdy. These puppies are DENSE and RICH. I couldn't eat more than one at a time, and as anyone who has eaten with me before can vouch, that is saying alot.


Should think about running an FTL ad for the holidays. They are pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 09, 2009, 05:18:05 PM
Dude, it was ridiculous. I have never had anything like that in my mouth.

I have had baklava from the store and have never been a fan. This shit was unreal. So gooey and fresh and delicious.

I was a little skeptical about the price. This doesn't seem like much food for that much money. But, boy howdy. These puppies are DENSE and RICH. I couldn't eat more than one at a time, and as anyone who has eaten with me before can vouch, that is saying alot.


Should think about running an FTL ad for the holidays. They are pretty cheap.

I keep the price as low as possible.  I've been down to Baltimore's Greek section & I see them charging $50-$60 for a full pan of baklava that looks like the crap you tried and hated.  It's probably costing them $6-$8 a pan to make, but they charge such a high premium since it's not a common product.  I'd rather sell a premium product at as reasonable a price as possible.  I don't buy cheap ingredients because I'm not trying to make a cheap product.  I only care about making the best.  A full pan is 15" x 11" and I cut the pieces small for the very reasons you mentioned--it's rich & dense.  I think a piece is around 1/2 an inch tall, but contains 54 layers.  That's why one piece is so filling. :)

I've thought about maybe running an ad, but honestly I'm worried about too much business, lol.  It's just me baking during my free time.  Don't get me wrong, I know I can fulfill all orders people throw at me right now.  I'm ready for it, and plan on skipping out on a lot of sleep.  This is my first year doing this over a holiday season, and I'm planning on using the sales data so I know what to expect next year.  I want to see how much work I need to put in this year & then look into expanding next year.  I'll continue to sell year round, though.  I'm having a lot of fun baking!
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 09, 2009, 07:12:16 PM
Dude, it was ridiculous. I have never had anything like that in my mouth.

I have had baklava from the store and have never been a fan. This shit was unreal. So gooey and fresh and delicious.

I was a little skeptical about the price. This doesn't seem like much food for that much money. But, boy howdy. These puppies are DENSE and RICH. I couldn't eat more than one at a time, and as anyone who has eaten with me before can vouch, that is saying alot.


Should think about running an FTL ad for the holidays. They are pretty cheap.

I keep the price as low as possible.  I've been down to Baltimore's Greek section & I see them charging $50-$60 for a full pan of baklava that looks like the crap you tried and hated.  It's probably costing them $6-$8 a pan to make, but they charge such a high premium since it's not a common product.  I'd rather sell a premium product at as reasonable a price as possible.  I don't buy cheap ingredients because I'm not trying to make a cheap product.  I only care about making the best.  A full pan is 15" x 11" and I cut the pieces small for the very reasons you mentioned--it's rich & dense.  I think a piece is around 1/2 an inch tall, but contains 54 layers.  That's why one piece is so filling. :)

I've thought about maybe running an ad, but honestly I'm worried about too much business, lol.  It's just me baking during my free time.  Don't get me wrong, I know I can fulfill all orders people throw at me right now.  I'm ready for it, and plan on skipping out on a lot of sleep.  This is my first year doing this over a holiday season, and I'm planning on using the sales data so I know what to expect next year.  I want to see how much work I need to put in this year & then look into expanding next year.  I'll continue to sell year round, though.  I'm having a lot of fun baking!

I think this could turn in to a great business for you.  I haven't had it, but I do plan on trying some in the near future.  If you bake other items as well, you could definitely grow this in to an extremely profitable thing for yourself.   :D
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Riddler on December 09, 2009, 08:28:07 PM
if you greek fucks would STOP putting pecans or walnuts in the shit, i'd be in...
how bout some NON-mouth/throat swelling for once???
fuckin anti-nut discrimination bullshit
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 09, 2009, 08:57:12 PM
LOL!

You know, I could make it with something else if you wanted to buy the pan (or split it with someone else).  You just tell me what you like as a filler instead of nuts.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 09, 2009, 09:39:40 PM
So that lasted a whole ten minutes.

lol
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 09, 2009, 09:41:24 PM
Seriously, you could be the first millionaire baklava tycoon with this recipe.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 09, 2009, 09:55:37 PM
Seriously, you could be the first millionaire baklava tycoon with this recipe.

Thanks! I really do appreciate the compliments.  With me already working a full time job, plus part time at my dad's diner on Saturday & Sunday morning, it's a lot of work doing the baklava thing on the side.  But like I said, I enjoy it.  I know I could probably take it further and some how turn it into my full time job, but I'm just not really sure how that could become a reality.  This "business" is still only 4 months old, but I plan on trying to figure out ways to expand, which would include having a much better looking web site & possibly advertising.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 09, 2009, 10:47:16 PM
You need chinaman. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on December 09, 2009, 10:51:17 PM
Seriously, you could be the first millionaire baklava tycoon with this recipe.

Thanks! I really do appreciate the compliments.  With me already working a full time job, plus part time at my dad's diner on Saturday & Sunday morning, it's a lot of work doing the baklava thing on the side.  But like I said, I enjoy it.  I know I could probably take it further and some how turn it into my full time job, but I'm just not really sure how that could become a reality.  This "business" is still only 4 months old, but I plan on trying to figure out ways to expand, which would include having a much better looking web site & possibly advertising.
You should sell it through your dad's diner.  From what I can tell it would be an instant hit.  I would buy some except the price is a little steep for me right now.  It's killing me though, I need to make a few hundred bucks appear out of thin air by the end of the year, and I'm almost there.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 09, 2009, 10:54:36 PM
I actually have been selling it through my dad's diner as well, in bulk & single pieces.  No one there gives a shit about it, though.  York is like 85% old people, and old people unfortunately have no taste buds.  That's not to say I haven't sold any, but I've done much better online & locally through word of mouth/facebook/craigslist.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 09, 2009, 10:55:43 PM
He should bake it in his dads diner, so his stove isn't sucking down the juice.  They usually run the ovens all day in a diner.  
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 09, 2009, 10:57:35 PM
I do bake at my dad's diner probably more than I bake at home.  My dad's cool & is usually all done in the prep kitchen by the time I roll in.  I have more room there & can bake multiple pans at a time.  I'll be there a lot leading up to Christmas.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 09, 2009, 11:00:51 PM
I do bake at my dad's diner probably more than I bake at home.  My dad's cool & is usually all done in the prep kitchen by the time I roll in.  I have more room there & can bake multiple pans at a time.  I'll be there a lot leading up to Christmas.

The other day, I was in a brand new church that installed an industrial-sized kitchen for feeding the homeless and whatever else churches do.  Dude, it was fucking balls. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 09, 2009, 11:07:10 PM
Yeah, the Greek Orthodox church I grew up in has a giant kitchen, but that isn't for feeding homeless.  They do it to raise insane $$$ by having their Greek food festivals.  You should see the shitty baklava they sell there.  I was tempted to volunteer my time last month at the pastry section so I could hand out my own business cards to people wanting to buy real baklava.  ;)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 14, 2009, 09:46:15 PM
Finally got around to making a Facebook page for my baklava:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Georges-Famous-Baklava/256410863288

Become a fan!  =)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on December 14, 2009, 10:02:06 PM
Finally got around to making a Facebook page for my baklava:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Georges-Famous-Baklava/256410863288

Become a fan!  =)
Sweet.  I want to order some as soon as I can economically justify it.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 17, 2009, 01:11:45 PM
Just ordered some.  Sounds delicious.  :D

Thanks for the order, Lance!  I don't ship Friday or Saturday because I want to avoid the extra day in the post office, but I'll send it out first thing Monday morning. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 17, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
Just ordered some.  Sounds delicious.  :D

Thanks for the order, Lance!  I don't ship Friday or Saturday because I want to avoid the extra day in the post office, but I'll send it out first thing Monday morning. Enjoy!

Rock on.  Even though I haven't tried it yet, I think I'll order up some more for extended family christmas gifts.  I trust BonerJoe's recommendation!

I trust his recommendation too, lol.  That's why I really want some!
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 23, 2009, 07:07:23 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

That's all.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 23, 2009, 07:09:52 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

That's all.

Wow, what a bump, lol.

Lance, how does it taste?  I saw your baklava was delivered.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on December 24, 2009, 02:08:27 PM
If you make enough money, maybe soon there should be a baklava.freetalklive.com ?
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 24, 2009, 02:42:27 PM
If you make enough money, maybe soon there should be a baklava.freetalklive.com ?

I'm thinking about it.  I should talk to Mark to see what the costs would be for short term advertising, and then see how much that actually would benefit my business.  It's one of those things I'm going to look into in early 2010.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 24, 2009, 04:40:58 PM
I know that with my Greek family I could have an uncle who uses cardboard in his recipes and he would insist that it's the best way to make it.  Being extremely stubborn is in our blood, lol.  I take the approach that this is how I make my baklava.  It's how I prefer it, but you may disagree.  You are more than welcome to make your own, and I would love to sample it!  I think that's a safe way to take on cooking.  It's hard to cook something that everyone says is the absolute best, and I definitely appreciate her, and your, feedback!  :)

I used to use clover honey but it really does nothing for me.  It's just a sweetner.  I've tried wildflower, orange blossom, alfalfa, eucalyptus, maple, raspberry, and many more including a couple different wildflower varieties from Greece (my uncle has beekeeper friends there).  Buckwheat reigns supreme in my book.  I know a couple people who grew up in Greece and for some reason don't like the taste buckwheat adds.  My mom is one of them, and she will only use clover.  I told her to switch to wildflower because it's still a mild honey, much like clover, but has more flavor than just sweet.  I'd encourage your mom to try it out.  I used to still buy clover for stuff like hot tea and sandwiches (instead of jelly), but I now use wildflower for common stuff around the house.

Did you eat it chilled?  A lot of the wetness on the bottom has a better texture when the baklava is a little cool.  That's actually one of the reasons I say it's best served chilled.  Thanks again for your business, bro!  I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: FTL_Mark on December 24, 2009, 05:53:14 PM
If you make enough money, maybe soon there should be a baklava.freetalklive.com ?

I'm thinking about it.  I should talk to Mark to see what the costs would be for short term advertising, and then see how much that actually would benefit my business.  It's one of those things I'm going to look into in early 2010.

Send me an email at Mark @ freetalklive .com. There are secret rates for AMPlifiers, Porcs and BBS Trolls :).
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 24, 2009, 06:05:52 PM
Wat. I love the fact that it's wet all the way through, that's what makes it good. Other baklava its like dry on the outer layers and barely moist on the inside. This shit tastes like you're eating dry aged prime filet mignon, lol.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 24, 2009, 06:23:19 PM
Thanks, Mark.  I'll hit you up early next year.

I agree, joe, but I also understand that some people like it a little drier.  Baklava is literally made a million different ways.  There isn't a right or wrong way to make it, only the way you prefer.  :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: BonerJoe on December 24, 2009, 06:40:11 PM
There isn't a right or wrong way to make it, only the way you prefer.  :)

If it were my company, the slogan would be "Your grandma's baklava sucks."
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 24, 2009, 06:50:26 PM
There isn't a right or wrong way to make it, only the way you prefer.  :)

If it were my company, the slogan would be "Your grandma's baklava sucks."


If I ever expand you'll be the first on my list to head up my marketing department.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Zat on December 26, 2009, 03:58:27 PM
Went through one package of the stuff last night.

To me, like BonerJoe, the 'wet' was a huge plus, a lot better then the usual mouthful of dryness you get with Baklava.
I was kind of surprised at how strong the clove flavor was. I liked the strong clove, it gave it's own distinct type of flavor compared to
'generic' baklava. Other people seemed a bit put-off by how strong the clove was.

Not like chunks of nuts in my food much, the fine grind on the nuts in this was awesome too, brought out more of the nut flavor in a very smooth filling.
Serious props there.

Last night Italian part of the family though, who don't know shit about things like baklava.
Tomorrow, I'm bringing the second package to the Armenian side, who are significantly more baklava aware.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 26, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
Good deal, glad you enjoyed it.  Let me know how it goes on day 2.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 26, 2009, 11:05:54 PM
the greeks on my wife's side of the family can forget about getting any more of it just so that they can bitch about it while they eat it all.  :x

Sounds like pretty much all the Greeks I know, lol.  My family on both sides was wondering why I didn't make any to give out for Christmas.  I refused for the very same reasons.  They all know how to make it, but they just wanted to nit pick my recipe.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 27, 2009, 08:16:18 AM
the greeks on my wife's side of the family can forget about getting any more of it just so that they can bitch about it while they eat it all.  :x

Sounds like pretty much all the Greeks I know, lol.  My family on both sides was wondering why I didn't make any to give out for Christmas.  I refused for the very same reasons.  They all know how to make it, but they just wanted to nit pick my recipe.

Oh fuck that.  I wouldn't put up with that.  Are they making money off of their baklava recipe?
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 29, 2009, 06:14:42 PM
the greeks on my wife's side of the family can forget about getting any more of it just so that they can bitch about it while they eat it all.  :x

Sounds like pretty much all the Greeks I know, lol.  My family on both sides was wondering why I didn't make any to give out for Christmas.  I refused for the very same reasons.  They all know how to make it, but they just wanted to nit pick my recipe.

Oh fuck that.  I wouldn't put up with that.  Are they making money off of their baklava recipe?

Exactly!

A cousin of mine, who is also a silver amper, bought half a pan from me.  He even refused my family discount.  He ate some and said it was the best he's ever had, but he also joked about how our parents/aunts/uncles would be so stubborn and think their cooking is the best no matter what.  Thankfully our generation is a bit more level headed.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Laetitia on December 30, 2009, 12:10:24 AM
After reading all the great feedback from happy customers, I'm getting off my ass & ordering some baklava.

Final straw? Hearing the "complaint" that the bottom layers were too wet. I think the bottom layers ought to be dripping with honey, as it is the perfect thing to go with really strong black coffee late in the evening.

I'd not thought of using buckwheat honey... that's a really good idea. I've used orange blossom honey, which I like better than the wildflower/honey.
(I love making baklava, but don't really have the time to devote to it these days. Plus with it being something only the Mr. & I will eat, it's a lot of effort for just the two of us, and I don't need to eat more of it if making larger pan.)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 30, 2009, 12:18:02 AM
Cool, thanks for your order!  I'll get it out first thing Monday morning since I'll be baking tomorrow morning and Friday is a holiday.  I look forward to your feedback, especially since you're a baklava baker.  :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Laetitia on December 30, 2009, 01:09:19 AM
especially since you're a baklava baker.  :)

Seeing as how my first batch of baklava was baked from the recipe in the "Guide to Pern" book I received for Christmas as a teen, I'm not sure I should really be labeled with "baklava baker".

I did experiment with different recipes and mixes of walnuts and pistachios, spices and honey in my 20s, and came up with a couple of pretty decent official combos, which I'd make several times a year - but that was before births of children # 2 & 3.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on December 31, 2009, 12:20:23 AM
especially since you're a baklava baker.  :)

Seeing as how my first batch of baklava was baked from the recipe in the "Guide to Pern" book I received for Christmas as a teen, I'm not sure I should really be labeled with "baklava baker".

I did experiment with different recipes and mixes of walnuts and pistachios, spices and honey in my 20s, and came up with a couple of pretty decent official combos, which I'd make several times a year - but that was before births of children # 2 & 3.

Okay, if you eat it and Jizz still complains about baklava from the internet I'm throwing him out of second-floor bedroom window. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on December 31, 2009, 01:01:01 PM
especially since you're a baklava baker.  :)

Seeing as how my first batch of baklava was baked from the recipe in the "Guide to Pern" book I received for Christmas as a teen, I'm not sure I should really be labeled with "baklava baker".

I did experiment with different recipes and mixes of walnuts and pistachios, spices and honey in my 20s, and came up with a couple of pretty decent official combos, which I'd make several times a year - but that was before births of children # 2 & 3.

Baking definitely takes up a lot of time, especially with kids.  My daughters do much better now that they are 6 then they did a couple years ago.  They usually behave & let me do my thing on the days I have to bake when my wife isn't around.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 02, 2010, 12:53:28 PM
Guess who is coming to Porc Fest?   :D

I talked to a bunch of people in the FTL IRC channel over the past couple days.  My wife even signed my permission slip to head up there this summer.  My plan is to rent a table & bring up 15-20 pans of baklava to sell during the festival.  From what I've heard Porc Fest is seriously lacking in dessert sales.  That will change, assuming you like baklava.  I may make something else, but it will just be me.  I don't want to over complicate things for myself.  My cousin may even come up with me, but he's more interested in the festival itself.  He's been dying to come up to NH to check out the FSP. 

So there you have it.  I know it's not until June, but I'm going to start making my plans now so I'm prepared.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Zat on January 02, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
The Armenian side liked it, and liked the moisture.
Other than scarfing it up like the Turks were coming to take it, they didn't have much to say beyond declaring it 'good'.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on January 02, 2010, 03:59:58 PM
especially since you're a baklava baker.  :)

Seeing as how my first batch of baklava was baked from the recipe in the "Guide to Pern" book I received for Christmas as a teen, I'm not sure I should really be labeled with "baklava baker".

I did experiment with different recipes and mixes of walnuts and pistachios, spices and honey in my 20s, and came up with a couple of pretty decent official combos, which I'd make several times a year - but that was before births of children # 2 & 3.

Okay, if you eat it and Jizz still complains about baklava from the internet I'm throwing him out of second-floor bedroom window. 

The crumbs in Joy's toaster are probably better than anything I could cook. 
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Laetitia on January 02, 2010, 06:13:28 PM
The crumbs in Joy's toaster are probably better than anything I could cook. 
:lol:

(The crumbs in my toaster are from homemade bread.)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on January 02, 2010, 07:57:09 PM
:lol:

(The crumbs in my toaster are from homemade bread.)

(http://blog.oregonlive.com/news_impact/2009/03/large_homer.drool.jpg)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Laetitia on January 07, 2010, 10:15:29 PM
Just shared a piece of baklava with the Mr...

Delicious!

I love the soaked layers at the bottom of each piece. I'd like the top couple of layers to be a tiny bit drier & flakier, but don't think that's anything you've done. I'd bet that's being flipped over for a good part of the shipping. Because the top layers separate quite nicely when you're picking at layers of phyllo with a fork, trying to make yourself eat it more slowly, because the flavor is fantastic. They wouldn't come apart easily if they'd been completely soaked from the beginning.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 07, 2010, 10:29:23 PM
Glad you enjoyed it!  I actually love peeling each layer off and eating it that way.  It usually is a bit drier at the top, as the syrup naturally settles to the bottom.  You're right, shipping impacts that.

Thanks again for the business.  I appreciate it.  :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Bill Brasky on January 08, 2010, 04:03:13 AM
Just shared a piece of baklava with the Mr...

Delicious!

I love the soaked layers at the bottom of each piece. I'd like the top couple of layers to be a tiny bit drier & flakier, but don't think that's anything you've done. I'd bet that's being flipped over for a good part of the shipping. Because the top layers separate quite nicely when you're picking at layers of phyllo with a fork, trying to make yourself eat it more slowly, because the flavor is fantastic. They wouldn't come apart easily if they'd been completely soaked from the beginning.

I would expect thats a humidity issue in a sealed environment. 


Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Laetitia on January 08, 2010, 12:47:08 PM

I would expect thats a humidity issue in a sealed environment. 


That's part of it, but it wasn't just dampness, it was sticky honey... and the mailman had left it upside down on front steps, which is what made me think it probably spent a good bit of time like that on 2 days of travel.

Again, super tasty, so I'm quite happy with it. Only reason I won't be ordering as soon as this batch is gone is because I don't want to regain the 35+ pounds I lost several years ago.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 08, 2010, 03:10:44 PM

I would expect thats a humidity issue in a sealed environment. 


That's part of it, but it wasn't just dampness, it was sticky honey... and the mailman had left it upside down on front steps, which is what made me think it probably spent a good bit of time like that on 2 days of travel.

Again, super tasty, so I'm quite happy with it. Only reason I won't be ordering as soon as this batch is gone is because I don't want to regain the 35+ pounds I lost several years ago.

Yeah, I wish I could eat the stuff every day, but I don't need to grow my gut any larger. :D
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: ForumTroll on January 08, 2010, 08:25:10 PM
It's good frozen, too. It never freezes, just gets real cold.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 10, 2010, 09:50:34 PM
So my wife got a new SLR camera and I just had to take a picture of my baklava with it:

(http://www.mandrik.com/baklava/baklava-close.jpg)

This is freaking food porn!
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on January 11, 2010, 06:45:32 PM
Awesome shot, Mandrik.  I'm drooling.  And still trying to convince the BF that you do not poison your baklava.   :lol:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 11, 2010, 07:41:16 PM
It's poisoned with awesome.

Tell him to check out my eBay profile. It's linked off my webpage.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Harry Tuttle on January 11, 2010, 08:06:45 PM
Tell him to get some and share it at the workplace. If his coworkers do not end up cloistered in the restroom then it must be good.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: anarchir on January 11, 2010, 11:56:22 PM
I have been avoiding this thread but reading it...



...because I have never had baklava before  :oops:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 14, 2010, 11:04:14 PM
I *finally* called in and told my baklava story on the FTL extended edition tonight (1/14).  I've already gotten a couple orders out of that call, and have a feeling I'm going to be doing a lot of baking this weekend.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: anarchir on January 15, 2010, 04:37:46 PM
Seems legit to me! I also noticed you (completely randomly, didnt know we had "friends" in common) posting about it on facebook, and the fact that you add your name to it adds to your reputation as a baklava dealer.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 15, 2010, 04:42:13 PM
Yup, it's a for real thing.  I link to my eBay auction off my website so people can see my reputation as a baklava vendor.  I've sold over 30 orders through there, but most of my business comes from my website.  I mark it up a little bit on eBay due to their fees.

It really is all about the reputation.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Laetitia on January 18, 2010, 10:51:48 PM
Did you know that Mandrik's baklava also goes fabulously with Pumpkin Pie ice cream?

It goes completely against my general tendency to be a purist about some desserts - but I had a post long run craving for both things. (With 2-1/2 months of marathon training to go, I may need to order more. I like the baklava form of recovery food - carbs and protein in one sticky & delicious wedge.)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 18, 2010, 11:41:43 PM
Baklava definitely goes well with ice cream.  That's how a lot of Greeks eat it.  Pumpkin pie ice cream on it sounds even better!

So that one call into FTL on Thursday was really good for business.  I've turned around and invested some money into running some ads for Valentine's Day.  You'll hear them pop up near the end of the month, and into early next month.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Osborne on January 19, 2010, 12:49:05 AM
I had a couple pieces I hid in the freezer last month. Ate one frozen and ate the other after thawing. They were both totally awesome in their own way. It's like the honey god spoojing his giant load in your mouth.
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 19, 2010, 10:34:06 PM
LOL!  You guys crack me up.

I mailed my check to FTL for advertising today.  Man, I still can't believe how far this has all come.  The podcast ad sounds great, too!  Can't wait to hear it on a show.  :)
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Lindsey on January 19, 2010, 11:36:54 PM
I had a couple pieces I hid in the freezer last month. Ate one frozen and ate the other after thawing. They were both totally awesome in their own way. It's like the honey god spoojing his giant load in your mouth.

You're my hero.   :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Selling & shipping baklava! =)
Post by: Mandrik on January 19, 2010, 11:38:57 PM
Think I should make up shirts that say "George's Famous Baklava" on the front and "It's like the honey god spoojing his giant load in your mouth" on the back?  For Porc Fest?  :P
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Post by: Lindsey on January 19, 2010, 11:45:30 PM
Think I should make up shirts that say "George's Famous Baklava" on the front and "It's like the honey god spoojing his giant load in your mouth" on the back?  For Porc Fest?  :P

I'll wear it, and even send pictures. 
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Post by: Osborne on January 20, 2010, 12:06:45 AM
I think a graphic depiction would be more effective.
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Post by: Lindsey on January 20, 2010, 12:17:37 AM
I think a graphic depiction would be more effective.

How exactly would you illustrate the honey god?  Would he be like the Kool-Aid man? 
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Post by: Mandrik on January 20, 2010, 12:18:52 AM
Wow, someone commission an artist for that piece.
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Post by: Osborne on January 20, 2010, 12:23:27 AM
I was thinking like one of these guys, except maybe with a beard, crown, trident and/or some other god-like accoutrement:

(http://www.honey.com/images/gallery/04_HoneyBear.jpg)

Oh, and of course, he'll need a nice big cock.
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Post by: Bill Brasky on January 20, 2010, 12:45:20 AM
Its obviously Belushi in the bee costume. 
(http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/748/748989/saturday-night-live-season-1-20061204000845066.jpg)
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Post by: Mandrik on January 26, 2010, 12:34:38 PM
Thanks to digitalfour I have a completely new site design!  Just in time, too, because my ads are gonna be running on FTL starting with podcasts this Thursday.  I added a couple sites to the links page already, but if you have any recommendations please let me know.  Thanks!
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Post by: Lindsey on January 26, 2010, 04:13:54 PM
George, your page looks awesome.  I would like to see some new photos of the baklava though.  I see you put the one up you took recently with your wife's camera.  A couple of them are dark though.  From my foodblogging reading I've seen most suggest putting the dish near a window.  Apparently natural light is the best.  Again, digit did an awesome job and it looks good.   :D
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Post by: Mandrik on January 26, 2010, 04:27:27 PM
Thanks for the picture taking tips!  I plan on adding more to the site, including pictures, but at least I have a much better looking page set up before the ads hit.  I lack the creativity to create a site, but I have the knowledge to edit the existing one.  Having digitalfour create this was a huge help, and I plan on updating with new pictures and information in the near future.  I got a lot of ideas, but I'm always looking for feedback.  =)
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Post by: miriena on February 04, 2010, 04:00:53 PM
I've been eating a couple pieces of this baklava a day for a couple weeks now and it's SO GOOD. I don't think I want to ever buy any sweets from the store any time soon because they are hardly ever as good as far as the flavor, and never as good when it comes to ingredients. The baklava is so rich that I can't really eat more than a couple pieces a day, but this just makes it last longer. It freezes really well, too, I can't tell the difference between a thawed out batch and a never-frozen batch.

YUMMM.
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Post by: freeAgent on February 04, 2010, 11:25:09 PM
You all convinced me to go and order some.  I'm eagerly awaiting a tasty surprise in my mail next week :)
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Post by: Lindsey on February 05, 2010, 12:14:31 AM
You all convinced me to go and order some.  I'm eagerly awaiting a tasty surprise in my mail next week :)

Okay, now I'm gonna beat Russ up.  He STILL won't agree to eat any. 
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Post by: Major Jizz on February 05, 2010, 12:16:17 AM
You all convinced me to go and order some.  I'm eagerly awaiting a tasty surprise in my mail next week :)

Okay, now I'm gonna beat Russ up.  He STILL won't agree to eat any. 

Meet me at the back of Costa's in Greek Town.  :P
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Post by: Laetitia on February 05, 2010, 04:15:51 PM
Planning my next order very soon. Will order after next week's 13-miler, so that it gets here in time to be my postrun fuel after the 17-mile long run the week after.

Yep, that's right. I'm using George's baklava as a carrot during my marathon training. (The stick is that if I don't go on long runs, I'm at home with my 3 kids, 2 dogs, and 1 big pile of laundry.)
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Post by: freeAgent on February 05, 2010, 08:00:51 PM
You all convinced me to go and order some.  I'm eagerly awaiting a tasty surprise in my mail next week :)

Okay, now I'm gonna beat Russ up.  He STILL won't agree to eat any.  

Meet me at the back of Costa's in Greek Town.  :P

You do know that place just burned down this week, right?  I'm assuming you do ;)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2025280,deep-fryer-costas-fire-020210.article

Also, Jizzy and Lindsey should come to my place to eat wonderful baklava once I get it...I'm close enough to Costa's :P
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Post by: Lindsey on February 06, 2010, 06:49:42 PM
You all convinced me to go and order some.  I'm eagerly awaiting a tasty surprise in my mail next week :)

Okay, now I'm gonna beat Russ up.  He STILL won't agree to eat any.  

Meet me at the back of Costa's in Greek Town.  :P

You do know that place just burned down this week, right?  I'm assuming you do ;)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2025280,deep-fryer-costas-fire-020210.article

Also, Jizzy and Lindsey should come to my place to eat wonderful baklava once I get it...I'm close enough to Costa's :P

Yeah, he knows.  He's just being a dick.   :lol:
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Post by: Major Jizz on February 07, 2010, 12:53:37 AM
You all convinced me to go and order some.  I'm eagerly awaiting a tasty surprise in my mail next week :)

Okay, now I'm gonna beat Russ up.  He STILL won't agree to eat any.  

Meet me at the back of Costa's in Greek Town.  :P

You do know that place just burned down this week, right?  I'm assuming you do ;)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2025280,deep-fryer-costas-fire-020210.article

Also, Jizzy and Lindsey should come to my place to eat wonderful baklava once I get it...I'm close enough to Costa's :P

Yeah. I was saddened by that. It all looks like a pile of shit right now.  :( I walk down Halsted everyday from UIC to get to the Union Station.
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Post by: freeAgent on February 10, 2010, 08:49:24 PM
I got my baklava in the mail today.  It tastes good:  like honey-coated freedom.  I had a hard time stopping myself from consuming it all tonight :D
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Post by: Mandrik on February 10, 2010, 08:53:21 PM
I got my baklava in the mail today.  It tastes good:  like honey-coated freedom.  I had a hard time stopping myself from consuming it all tonight :D

You have to be careful with it!  A pound and a half is a lot of baklava, even though it may not look it at first glance.  It's really easy to put 4 or 5 pieces down.  I enjoy peeling the layers off of it and enjoying it slowly.

Honey-coated freedom. Love it! =)
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Post by: AOD_Horseman on February 23, 2010, 09:03:24 AM
I finally got around to placing my order. Looking forward to getting it, maybe taking a few pieces to work and sending business your way.

Or just eating it all myself. We'll see what happens.
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Post by: Mandrik on February 23, 2010, 09:50:57 AM
After nearly 6 months I finally got my first customer that hated it!  She said it tasted "rancid," which is strange because everyone else who received their order from the same pan as her said it was fantastic.  I think the buckwheat honey must have been too strong for her tastes.  /shrug  I'm not going to lose any sleep over this, but I thought I'd mention it.  No matter what you are selling or doing you are bound to find someone who isn't happy with your product or service.
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Post by: Osborne on February 23, 2010, 10:20:13 AM
Tell me where she lives. I'll make her change her mind.
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Post by: Mandrik on February 23, 2010, 10:28:01 AM
I just listened to the Wheels off Liberty podcast that came out yesterday, and Jamie & Tarrin gave me props for my baklava.  I sent Jamie an order off of the *exact* same pan this lady got, and Jamie said it was amazing.  The entire podcast is great as always, but they briefly mention my baklava business in the first 5 or 6 minutes of the pod.

I gave this lady a refund and even gave her positive feedback on eBay.  If I get one negative response out of every 150+ orders then I can only assume I'm doing something right.
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Post by: ForumTroll on February 23, 2010, 10:35:51 AM
Rancid? I had it sitting in the refrigerator and on the counter for a long time, and at no point did even hint of tasting rancid. And I know what the fuck that tastes like.
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Post by: freeAgent on February 23, 2010, 07:50:55 PM
Rancid? I had it sitting in the refrigerator and on the counter for a long time, and at no point did even hint of tasting rancid. And I know what the fuck that tastes like.

Yeah, I had mine in the fridge for maybe 2 weeks before I finally finished it and it didn't taste "off" at all.
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Post by: Bill Brasky on February 23, 2010, 08:07:04 PM
Some people are just huge review tools.  Some are scam artists.  They throw a shit-fit hoping to get extra stuff or a refund. 

I stumbled into some crazy bitches review profile on Amazon one day [VIEW THIS PERSONS OTHER REVIEWS] and she musta had a thousand other reviews of absolutely normal shit.  Just look around your house -  mouse pad, lamp shade, bagel cutter, fucking everything you see, she bought it from Amazon and reviewed the fucker.  *NOTHING* made this cunt happy.  And everything somehow involved her sciatica.  I wanted bread pans because we bake a lot of bread and I have sciatica so I have trouble getting the loaves out of the pan.  Well, these bread pans suck, and I won't recommend buying them. 

I'm sure her husband is down in the basement chipping a hole in the concrete floor. 
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Post by: Mandrik on February 23, 2010, 08:12:46 PM
She's actually listed as a Top Seller on eBay, and her buyer feedback looks good.  I just think she was completely turned off by the buckwheat honey taste.  That is hilarious though, Drifter.  Some people just go through life completely miserable and they want everyone else to feel the same way.  I'd rather just smile at these people and tell them to have a nice day.
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Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on February 23, 2010, 08:24:10 PM
Send her another sheet but substitute buckwheat honey with "Mandrik honey.
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Post by: Lindsey on February 24, 2010, 12:10:39 AM
Some people are just huge review tools.  Some are scam artists.  They throw a shit-fit hoping to get extra stuff or a refund. 

I stumbled into some crazy bitches review profile on Amazon one day [VIEW THIS PERSONS OTHER REVIEWS] and she musta had a thousand other reviews of absolutely normal shit.  Just look around your house -  mouse pad, lamp shade, bagel cutter, fucking everything you see, she bought it from Amazon and reviewed the fucker.  *NOTHING* made this cunt happy.  And everything somehow involved her sciatica.  I wanted bread pans because we bake a lot of bread and I have sciatica so I have trouble getting the loaves out of the pan.  Well, these bread pans suck, and I won't recommend buying them. 

I'm sure her husband is down in the basement chipping a hole in the concrete floor. 

You are one of my favorite people ever. 
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Post by: Harry Tuttle on February 24, 2010, 10:20:30 AM
I'm sure her husband is down in the basement chipping a hole in the concrete floor. 

 :lol:
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Post by: AOD_Horseman on February 25, 2010, 11:04:56 PM
Got my package of awesome today. I took one box to work after having a few pieces with the Lady, and it was a pretty big hit. People seemed confused at the term "Baklava" and intimidated by the look of it (it looks much squishier under FedEx's lights), but everyone who tried it loved it.

I told 'em where to go for more.
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Post by: Mandrik on March 04, 2010, 12:19:39 AM
George's Famous Baklava is now the official sponsor of the Wheels off Liberty podcast.  I love Mike, Jamie, and Tarrin, so I was more than happy to sponsor those guys.  It's definitely one of the best pods out there!
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Post by: Mandrik on March 18, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
If you are at the Liberty Forum this weekend be sure to stop by and visit Tarrin Lupo.  He has my baklava on sale there!  =D
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Post by: yamnuska on March 20, 2010, 05:10:20 PM
Do you ship to Canuckistan?
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Post by: Mandrik on March 20, 2010, 06:54:22 PM
I'm not doing Canada yet, sorry.  :(
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Post by: yamnuska on March 20, 2010, 07:53:24 PM
why not? you don't intend to follow government regulations do you?
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Post by: Mandrik on March 20, 2010, 07:59:32 PM
It's a cost thing, not a regulation thing.  I haven't found a reasonable way to get baklava there within 2-3 business days, and I don't want it taking 7-10 days for $25+ in shipping charges.  :(
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Post by: anarchir on March 21, 2010, 12:42:19 AM
It's a cost thing, not a regulation thing.  I haven't found a reasonable way to get baklava there within 2-3 business days, and I don't want it taking 7-10 days for $25+ in shipping charges.  :(

Perhaps you need a distributer willing to buy it in bulk (at bulk prices) for resale?
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Post by: Mandrik on March 21, 2010, 12:44:15 AM
It's a cost thing, not a regulation thing.  I haven't found a reasonable way to get baklava there within 2-3 business days, and I don't want it taking 7-10 days for $25+ in shipping charges.  :(

Perhaps you need a distributer willing to buy it in bulk (at bulk prices) for resale?

That would be fantastic if I could find someone like that.  It certainly would cut down on shipping costs.
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Post by: anarchir on March 21, 2010, 12:49:00 AM
It's a cost thing, not a regulation thing.  I haven't found a reasonable way to get baklava there within 2-3 business days, and I don't want it taking 7-10 days for $25+ in shipping charges.  :(

Perhaps you need a distributer willing to buy it in bulk (at bulk prices) for resale?

That would be fantastic if I could find someone like that.  It certainly would cut down on shipping costs.

Its not like its easy to smuggle some across the border either, you need a passport just to get across. I live 2 hours from Canada and yet I cant go there unless I'm camping and canoe across.
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Post by: freeAgent on March 21, 2010, 01:48:04 AM
It's a pretty easy crossing on the eastern edge of the thumb from Port Huron south, across the St. Clair River or the narrow portion of Lake Huron just north of it.  Of course, that's really much more trouble than it's worth.
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Post by: ThatOneGuy on March 21, 2010, 02:23:53 AM
i love how this turned into a baklava smuggling thread. would replacing the stuffing inside teddy bears with baklava be cost effective?
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Post by: Laetitia on March 21, 2010, 03:09:38 PM
Damnit!  :x Forgot to order last week, so I have no post-marathon baklava today.
Will be correcting this before my next long run.
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Post by: Osborne on March 21, 2010, 03:12:44 PM
Too bad Lupo ate all the baklava here at LF. Would have been nice to share.
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Post by: Mandrik on March 21, 2010, 03:32:43 PM
Baklava runners doesn't roll off the tongue like rum runners, but I love the mental image of a canoe stocked up with baklava, heading into Canada.

Osborne, did you grab a piece or twelve?  I'm hoping Tarrin's mouth wasn't the only one to receive the Honey God's splooge this weekend.
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Post by: digitalfour on March 22, 2010, 01:58:22 AM
Mandrik, both BJ and I had a piece. I also heard from my friend James Freelander that there was more in the AltExpo up on the second floor.
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Post by: ThatOneGuy on March 22, 2010, 02:01:37 AM
oh man Mandrik, i would be willing to be a baklava runner. but i would need a steam boat, a 19th century captain's outfit and an all black chorus to sing old man river.
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Post by: anarchir on March 22, 2010, 02:37:00 AM
I'd do it if it paid for: Gas, passport, and some sort of payment for my time and trouble. Also, I'd have to eat some baklava during the drive.
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Post by: yamnuska on March 23, 2010, 09:36:25 PM
Im sure health Canada would have some assinine rules about food from the US. Is that $25 what USPS charges? Good God. I still remember the story of the guy who invented powerbar, he was a Canadian who moved to the US because the regulations were much less onerous, to sell it in Canada he could not call it an energy bar/meal replacement. Fuck, even Canadian exporters have to follow rules, all wine shipped out of Canada has to have a certain font size/type on the label, like wtf?
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Post by: Mandrik on March 26, 2010, 06:26:41 PM
Sovereign Curtis is someone I consider a friend, so I'm going to be setting something up to try to help him out.  If you buy baklava from now until whenever (no deadline) I will donate 50% of the non-shipping costs to his CD Evolution fund.  If you ever wanted to order baklava from me now would be a great time.  You'll get an awesome treat & you'll get to help Curtis fund his legal defense.  Just mention it's to support Curtis in the notes so I know.  I will likely publicly thank everyone who donated to him.  If you wish to remain anonymous just let me know.

Thanks!
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Post by: The Muslim Agorist on March 31, 2010, 01:51:21 AM
My review

George's Famous Baklava: civil disobedience never tasted so good!  (http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-17122-SF-Muslim-Examiner~y2010m3d30-Georges-Famous-Baklava-civil-disobedience-never-tasted-so-good)
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Post by: Laetitia on March 31, 2010, 09:24:42 AM
George - What's the average turnaround time right now? Trying to time my order so baklava arrives just in time for the 10th. Mr. Joy's a big fan - your baklava & a turkish coffee will make for a darn near perfect birthday breakfast.
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Post by: anarchir on March 31, 2010, 02:57:31 PM
My review

George's Famous Baklava: civil disobedience never tasted so good!  (http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-17122-SF-Muslim-Examiner~y2010m3d30-Georges-Famous-Baklava-civil-disobedience-never-tasted-so-good)

Someone posted it on facebook (several someones I suppose).   Pretty awesome.
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Post by: error on April 02, 2010, 09:04:24 PM
Got my baklava order. Oh this is some sweet stuff!
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Post by: Mandrik on April 02, 2010, 09:42:25 PM
George - What's the average turnaround time right now? Trying to time my order so baklava arrives just in time for the 10th. Mr. Joy's a big fan - your baklava & a turkish coffee will make for a darn near perfect birthday breakfast.

If you want it for the 10th, just order now & note that.  I'll ship it out Wednesday, 4/7 to make sure you have it by 4/10 at the latest (probably will arrive 4/9).

BTW, BonerJoe & I met, along with digitalfour, a few weeks ago here in my hometown of York, Pa.  We had a great time hanging out for a few hours.  BJ & I decided to go into business together for Porc Fest and will be offering such awesome things as gyros, fries, greek iced frappes, baklava, and maybe more stuff.  How does that sound to you guys?   :D  We're going to be set up in RV spot 13, which is close to the picnic pavilion.  I'm pumped!
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Post by: anarchir on April 03, 2010, 01:36:12 AM
George - What's the average turnaround time right now? Trying to time my order so baklava arrives just in time for the 10th. Mr. Joy's a big fan - your baklava & a turkish coffee will make for a darn near perfect birthday breakfast.

If you want it for the 10th, just order now & note that.  I'll ship it out Wednesday, 4/7 to make sure you have it by 4/10 at the latest (probably will arrive 4/9).

BTW, BonerJoe & I met, along with digitalfour, a few weeks ago here in my hometown of York, Pa.  We had a great time hanging out for a few hours.  BJ & I decided to go into business together for Porc Fest and will be offering such awesome things as gyros, fries, greek iced frappes, baklava, and maybe more stuff.  How does that sound to you guys?   :D  We're going to be set up in RV spot 13, which is close to the picnic pavilion.  I'm pumped!

Nice!  I hope to have some sort of agorism food service some day, but with all the competition thats going to be springing up it may be tough :)
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Post by: Osborne on April 03, 2010, 02:35:25 AM
will be offering such awesome things as gyros, fries, greek iced frappes, baklava, and maybe more stuff. 

I love you so much.