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Title: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Steven from Colorado on August 13, 2009, 07:11:27 AM
I am in Kuwait, and there are fat-tailed black scorpions running around here everywhere.

I have caught one and keep it in my office. I have been toying with the idea of bringing it back to the states and selling it.

First of all, since this is the second most venomous scorpion in the world, what are your views about bringing it back? What if someone buys it, brings it home and is stung and dies? What if, in fact, my customer's child is killed? Am I to blame, in your view?

Secondly, how much would YOU pay for such an animal?
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: BonerJoe on August 13, 2009, 07:32:13 AM
How much for the little girl? The women, how much for the women?

Your women, I want to buy your women. The little girl. Your daughters. Sell them to me. Sell me your children.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Manuel_OKelly on August 13, 2009, 08:36:08 AM
Yeah I don't think it's a good idea. What are you keeping it in? A jar on your desk?
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Andy on August 13, 2009, 10:58:42 AM
How much for the little girl? The women, how much for the women?

Your women, I want to buy your women. The little girl. Your daughters. Sell them to me. Sell me your children.

Five Camels and a mangy goat.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: NuroSlam on August 13, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
I am in Kuwait, and there are fat-tailed black scorpions running around here everywhere.

I have caught one and keep it in my office. I have been toying with the idea of bringing it back to the states and selling it.

First of all, since this is the second most venomous scorpion in the world, what are your views about bringing it back? What if someone buys it, brings it home and is stung and dies? What if, in fact, my customer's child is killed? Am I to blame, in your view?

Secondly, how much would YOU pay for such an animal?

I would say if it was an experienced herp keeper, well you see where im coming from. There are people more then capable of keeping such things. Should you, perhaps if you had a sure fire buyer that checked out in ability.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Rillion on August 13, 2009, 02:02:56 PM
Morally, would I say that you're responsible if someone buys a scorpion and it stings them or their child?  No.

Legally, is bringing a scorpion to the United States from Kuwait allowed?  Almost certainly not. 

Would I buy a scorpion from you, for any price, from anywhere?  No. 
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on August 13, 2009, 04:25:09 PM
Its not legal. Customs, and all.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Steven from Colorado on August 14, 2009, 12:14:03 AM
Its not legal. Customs, and all.
Bringing back Cuban cigars isn't legal, yet I do it every time I travel internationally.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Terror Australis on August 14, 2009, 12:35:05 AM
Are you going to smuggle it into the country in your underpants? :)

Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: rookie on August 15, 2009, 12:15:22 PM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

what kind of fucking creep wants a god damned alien-looking insect sitting on their aquarium next to their bed or in their living room?
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Rillion on August 15, 2009, 01:55:02 PM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

Because normal is boring? 
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Steven from Colorado on August 16, 2009, 04:42:56 AM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

Because normal is boring? 

Scorpions are neat animals, but I prefer a dog, personally. I know some people like to buy them and keep them as pets, that's why I am considering bringing it home with me: to sell.

I don't know what price it will fetch. I understand that Emperor Scorpions cost between $20-60.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: timmysoboy on August 16, 2009, 05:44:11 AM
Hell, I'm half temped to catch the black widow that lives outside my barracks and keep it as a pet.

Lemme know about any offers, I might have to invest when i go over there.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: miamiballoonguy on August 16, 2009, 09:39:29 AM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

what kind of fucking creep wants a god damned alien-looking insect sitting on their aquarium next to their bed or in their living room?

Scorpions are not insects....  they are related to spiders.  More than 6 legs.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Evil Muppet on August 16, 2009, 10:12:05 AM
I am in Kuwait, and there are fat-tailed black scorpions running around here everywhere.

I have caught one and keep it in my office. I have been toying with the idea of bringing it back to the states and selling it.

First of all, since this is the second most venomous scorpion in the world, what are your views about bringing it back? What if someone buys it, brings it home and is stung and dies? What if, in fact, my customer's child is killed? Am I to blame, in your view?

Secondly, how much would YOU pay for such an animal?

are you a fucking idiot? 
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Evil Muppet on August 16, 2009, 10:26:51 AM
Androctonus crassicauda  which literally means 'fat-tailed man-killer' 

According to Avery Exotics which is out of British Columbia, the cost of a 2 1/2 inch fat tailed scorpion is $65. 
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Rillion on August 16, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
According to Avery Exotics which is out of British Columbia, the cost of a 2 1/2 inch fat tailed scorpion is $65. 

Seems like a pittance to risk bodily harm or possible death (if the scorpion manages to escape while traveling) and being caught by Customs for.  Wildlife smuggling can get you 10 years in prison and a fine of about $70,000. 
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Steven from Colorado on August 16, 2009, 01:44:43 PM
According to Avery Exotics which is out of British Columbia, the cost of a 2 1/2 inch fat tailed scorpion is $65. 

Seems like a pittance to risk bodily harm or possible death (if the scorpion manages to escape while traveling) and being caught by Customs for.  Wildlife smuggling can get you 10 years in prison and a fine of about $70,000. 
To make $65 Canadian, I'll take that chance.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Rillion on August 16, 2009, 01:46:20 PM
According to Avery Exotics which is out of British Columbia, the cost of a 2 1/2 inch fat tailed scorpion is $65. 

Seems like a pittance to risk bodily harm or possible death (if the scorpion manages to escape while traveling) and being caught by Customs for.  Wildlife smuggling can get you 10 years in prison and a fine of about $70,000. 
To make $65 Canadian, I'll take that chance.

Then I agree with Evil Muppet. 
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Steven from Colorado on August 16, 2009, 01:51:41 PM
I am in Kuwait, and there are fat-tailed black scorpions running around here everywhere.

I have caught one and keep it in my office. I have been toying with the idea of bringing it back to the states and selling it.

First of all, since this is the second most venomous scorpion in the world, what are your views about bringing it back? What if someone buys it, brings it home and is stung and dies? What if, in fact, my customer's child is killed? Am I to blame, in your view?

Secondly, how much would YOU pay for such an animal?

are you a fucking idiot? 
If I was a fucking idiot, would I know it?
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: rookie on August 16, 2009, 01:53:18 PM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

what kind of fucking creep wants a god damned alien-looking insect sitting on their aquarium next to their bed or in their living room?

Scorpions are not insects....  they are related to spiders.  More than 6 legs.

district-9 looking motherfuckers, anyway.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: rookie on August 16, 2009, 02:09:12 PM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

Because normal is boring? 

cats and dogs?  very energetic. and curious creatures.  not boring.

a stuipid reptile/insect/spider/district-9-looking action figure that just fucking sits on underneath a heatlamp all day long is boring.
BORING!!!
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: BonerJoe on August 16, 2009, 02:33:41 PM
a stuipid reptile/insect/spider/district-9-looking action figure that just fucking sits on underneath a heatlamp all day long is boring.
BORING!!!

Exactly.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Rillion on August 16, 2009, 02:38:31 PM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

Because normal is boring? 

cats and dogs?  very energetic. and curious creatures.  not boring.

a stuipid reptile/insect/spider/district-9-looking action figure that just fucking sits on underneath a heatlamp all day long is boring.
BORING!!!

People who can't handle anybody else wanting something different from what they want = boring. 
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on August 16, 2009, 02:43:19 PM
Get a siamese/american shorthair mix, you won't be bored, you'll be driven nuts.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: BonerJoe on August 16, 2009, 02:52:16 PM
Get a siamese/american shorthair mix, you won't be bored, you'll be driven nuts.

mrow
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on August 16, 2009, 03:04:51 PM
Get a siamese/american shorthair mix, you won't be bored, you'll be driven nuts.

mrow

You get the shorthair gregariousness smashed with the siamese intelligence and stubbornness (and loud meow/barking). In short, it's like a friendly fuzzy EMS car.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: rookie on August 16, 2009, 05:36:23 PM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

Because normal is boring? 

cats and dogs?  very energetic. and curious creatures.  not boring.

a stuipid reptile/insect/spider/district-9-looking action figure that just fucking sits on underneath a heatlamp all day long is boring.
BORING!!!

People who can't handle anybody else wanting something different from what they want = boring. 

who says I can't handle it?  they can do whatever they want; I just think it's stupid, and creepy, and weird...and I wonder what kind of social life these nerds with their weird "pets" have outside of watching their snake eat a chinchilla.  or watching their chinchilla take a bath in a pit of volcano ash?

nobody impresses a girl by bringing an iguana to the dog park and saying, "wanna feed it a hamster?"  "wanna fucking watch it do battle with my scorpion?"
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on August 16, 2009, 05:37:51 PM
How much for the little girl? The women, how much for the women?

Your women, I want to buy your women. The little girl. Your daughters. Sell them to me. Sell me your children.

More than you have.

What if I throw in the camel?
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: rookie on August 16, 2009, 05:52:22 PM
why can't people be statisfied with either a cat or a dog, like a normal human being.

Because normal is boring? 

cats and dogs?  very energetic. and curious creatures.  not boring.

a stuipid reptile/insect/spider/district-9-looking action figure that just fucking sits on underneath a heatlamp all day long is boring.
BORING!!!

People who can't handle anybody else wanting something different from what they want = boring. 

who says I can't handle it?  I just think it's stupid, and creepy, and wrong...and I wonder what kind of social life these nerds with their weird "pets" have outside of watching their snake eat a chinchilla.  or watching their chinchilla take a bath in a pit of volcano ash?

nobody impresses a girl by bringing an iguana to the dog park.

Maybe not, but Chinchillas deserve to be eaten.

Yes. Yes they do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPP_sGuqNhI
[youtube=425,350]mPP_sGuqNhI[/youtube]

This is what I'm talking about.^  Look at this creep's youtube video.  It's his stupid chinchilla eating a raisin in front of the camera fr 75 seconds...and then it takes a shit.  ON THE COFFEE TABLE!!!!???  You think I'd ever come have coffee with this douche again after I watch this video?  of his rat shitting on the coffee table?  hell no.  and do you know what this weirdo names his overgrown south-american mountain rat?  STRINGBEAN.  You think its cute?  those youtube commentators sure do.  but let me tell you something...IT MAKES ME SICK!  cute little hands?  a chinnie  You wanna see cute little hands?  how about I wrap my beastly human hands around Stringbean's scrawny little throat by the hairs of his chinnie-chin-chin...and snap his stupid rodent neck.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: anarchir on August 16, 2009, 05:53:16 PM
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nobody impresses a girl by bringing an iguana to the dog park and saying, "wanna feed it a hamster?"  "wanna fucking watch it do battle with my scorpion?"

Good way to get a guy though I bet.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: rookie on August 16, 2009, 06:44:16 PM
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nobody impresses a girl by bringing an iguana to the dog park and saying, "wanna feed it a hamster?"  "wanna fucking watch it do battle with my scorpion?"

Good way to get a guy though I bet.

yeah.  great way to get a best friend in the sixth grade.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Rillion on August 16, 2009, 06:44:40 PM
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nobody impresses a girl by bringing an iguana to the dog park and saying, "wanna feed it a hamster?"  "wanna fucking watch it do battle with my scorpion?"

Good way to get a guy though I bet.

Oh, absolutely.  Guys are over the moon about pets that a) eat other pets, or b) can be eaten, or c) both.   Which is why I want chickens.  They eat snakes, frogs, spiders....

(Okay, it's not really why.  But it's a nice perk)

Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: BonerJoe on August 16, 2009, 07:04:37 PM
How much for the little girl? The women, how much for the women?

Your women, I want to buy your women. The little girl. Your daughters. Sell them to me. Sell me your children.

More than you have.

You think you can say that just because you have a big dick, don't you?
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: miamiballoonguy on August 16, 2009, 11:45:55 PM
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nobody impresses a girl by bringing an iguana to the dog park and saying, "wanna feed it a hamster?"  "wanna fucking watch it do battle with my scorpion?"

Good way to get a guy though I bet.

Oh, absolutely.  Guys are over the moon about pets that a) eat other pets, or b) can be eaten, or c) both.   Which is why I want chickens.  They eat snakes, frogs, spiders....

(Okay, it's not really why.  But it's a nice perk)



not 100% accurate....   I've never been fond of those animals...  as a matter of fact, Insects and reptiles creep me out.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Evil Muppet on August 17, 2009, 10:05:52 AM
I am in Kuwait, and there are fat-tailed black scorpions running around here everywhere.

I have caught one and keep it in my office. I have been toying with the idea of bringing it back to the states and selling it.

First of all, since this is the second most venomous scorpion in the world, what are your views about bringing it back? What if someone buys it, brings it home and is stung and dies? What if, in fact, my customer's child is killed? Am I to blame, in your view?

Secondly, how much would YOU pay for such an animal?

are you a fucking idiot? 
If I was a fucking idiot, would I know it?

You should know.  Everyone keeps calling you an idiot
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Cowcidile on August 17, 2009, 12:07:45 PM
I am in Kuwait, and there are fat-tailed black scorpions running around here everywhere.

I have caught one and keep it in my office. I have been toying with the idea of bringing it back to the states and selling it.

First of all, since this is the second most venomous scorpion in the world, what are your views about bringing it back? What if someone buys it, brings it home and is stung and dies? What if, in fact, my customer's child is killed? Am I to blame, in your view?

Secondly, how much would YOU pay for such an animal?
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I am sure you could find an exotic critter dealer that might give you a decent amount of money for them as long as you get them through customs, If you want to cut out the middle man maybe you should go to an exotic pet forum and see what actual owners have to say.
If your customer ran over his kid with a car would the car salesman be to blame? People die in car accidents all the time do you think every care salesmen out there is filled with a murderers guilt?
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Steven from Colorado on August 17, 2009, 11:20:13 PM
I am in Kuwait, and there are fat-tailed black scorpions running around here everywhere.

I have caught one and keep it in my office. I have been toying with the idea of bringing it back to the states and selling it.

First of all, since this is the second most venomous scorpion in the world, what are your views about bringing it back? What if someone buys it, brings it home and is stung and dies? What if, in fact, my customer's child is killed? Am I to blame, in your view?

Secondly, how much would YOU pay for such an animal?

are you a fucking idiot? 
If I was a fucking idiot, would I know it?

You should know.  Everyone keeps calling you an idiot
Then I must not be an idiot.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: anarchir on September 04, 2009, 12:49:46 AM
You should do it if you think you can sell it down the line.  I think if you are gonna do it, at least you should scoop up several for the trip (but keep them separate).

My gal says no, cuz she thinks you are going to kill somebody.
Title: Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
Post by: Steven from Colorado on September 05, 2009, 03:51:30 AM
You should do it if you think you can sell it down the line.  I think if you are gonna do it, at least you should scoop up several for the trip (but keep them separate).

My gal says no, cuz she thinks you are going to kill somebody.

Well, I decided not to for a few reasons:

1. Though some people here missed the sarcasm, I am not interested in paying a $70K (or whatever it is) fine for illegally importing a wild animal.
2. I had a dream (or rather, a nightmare) that I woke up, the jar was open and the killer scorpion was loose in my room somewhere.
3. I couldn't find a buyer on such short notice, even if I was interested in risking the crazy-ass fine.