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John Shaw

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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2011, 08:17:36 AM »

He's right.  We need to get the Whites, Browns, Yellows and Reds off welfare too.

And if he'd said "We need to get rid of the welfare state." He'd have been my fucking hero rather than a cranky racist old white man.
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2011, 08:24:00 AM »


And if he'd said "We need to get rid of the welfare state." He'd have been my fucking hero rather than a cranky racist old white man.

"Well, what we really need to do is get the blacks off of welfare." - Ron Paul

How is that statement racist?
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2011, 08:40:24 AM »

Now if he said "We need to get the blacks off welfare so the whites can have more", I'd be in your camp. As it is, I dont see what he said as being a big deal. Hell, I think Bill Cosby said something similar. It also just happens to be true. The fact that he singled out blacks in his statement, well, maybe there is a little bias going on there.

Let me ask you something though John. If RP were the president, do you think he would sign bills, or favor legislation that only took welfare away from black people, or give incentives to people based on race, and pass it into law?

If the answer is no, I dont see what the big deal is.






Just admit it John. You want Ron Paul to be "your leader" and make life decisions for you. I know you do. You just dont want to get your hopes up and have them dashed when he loses, so you're putting up this huge Ron Paul Wall to protect yourself from his charismatic superpowers.  :P
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2011, 09:09:58 AM »

How is that statement racist?

Now if he said "We need to get the blacks off welfare so the whites can have more", I'd be in your camp. As it is, I dont see what he said as being a big deal.


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Seriously?

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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2011, 09:26:23 AM »

Now that you mention it, I did find it kinda odd that RP kept taking a bottle of hand sanitizer out of his pocket and pouring it on the left side of his face, closest to the black dude. :P


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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2011, 09:40:49 AM »

How is that statement racist?

Now if he said "We need to get the blacks off welfare so the whites can have more", I'd be in your camp. As it is, I dont see what he said as being a big deal.


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Seriously?

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Haha, I didn't think this forum would be a bastion of politically-correct speech, but apparently it is. You must be young enough to have been taught it via government schools, and/or you subconsciously absorbed by the politically-correct culture.

"Racism" is the belief that one race is inherently superior over another, so again, how could Paul's alleged statement be considered racist?

Is it racist to say you don't like Obama?

Is it racist to say you don't like Obama's beliefs and policies?

Is it racist to say you avoid urban areas because of the crime?

Is it racist to say you prefer white jelly beans over black jelly beans?

Where am I, in Rachael Maddow's forum? LOL.

"When words lose their meaning, people lose their liberty."  -- Confucius
(it was true 2,500 years ago, and it is true today)
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2011, 09:49:07 AM »

Haha, I didn't think this forum would be a bastion of politically-correct speech, but apparently it is. You must be young enough to have been taught it via government schools, and/or you subconsciously absorbed by the politically-correct culture.

Don't be a fucking moron, ya fuckin' moron.

"Racism" is the belief that one race is inherently superior over another, so again, how could Paul's alleged statement be considered racist?

Let's use a better term then, shall we? Fucking bigot. Ron Paul is a fucking ignorant bigot. How's that?

Is it racist to say you don't like Obama?

Don't be fucking stupid.

Is it racist to say you don't like Obama's beliefs and policies?

Don't be fucking stupid.

Is it racist to say you avoid urban areas because of the crime?

Don't be fucking stupid.

Is it racist to say you prefer white jelly beans over black jelly beans?

Don't be fucking stupid.

Where am I, in Rachael Maddow's forum? LOL.

Apparently you don't know how not to be fucking stupid.

"When words lose their meaning, people lose their liberty."  -- Confucius[/b][/color] (it was true 2,500 years ago, and it is true today)

:Rollseyes:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conflate

Now why don't you go vote and pretend that supporting government is the way to be free.

I did it. I fed the troll. Hooray.
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2011, 09:54:36 AM »

Haha, I didn't think this forum would be a bastion of politically-correct speech, but apparently it is. You must be young enough to have been taught it via government schools, and/or you subconsciously absorbed by the politically-correct culture.

Don't be a fucking moron, ya fuckin' moron.

"Racism" is the belief that one race is inherently superior over another, so again, how could Paul's alleged statement be considered racist?

Let's use a better term then, shall we? Fucking bigot. Ron Paul is a fucking ignorant bigot. How's that?

Is it racist to say you don't like Obama?

Don't be fucking stupid.

Is it racist to say you don't like Obama's beliefs and policies?

Don't be fucking stupid.

Is it racist to say you avoid urban areas because of the crime?

Don't be fucking stupid.

Is it racist to say you prefer white jelly beans over black jelly beans?

Don't be fucking stupid.

Where am I, in Rachael Maddow's forum? LOL.

Apparently you don't know how not to be fucking stupid.

"When words lose their meaning, people lose their liberty."  -- Confucius[/b][/color] (it was true 2,500 years ago, and it is true today)

:Rollseyes:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conflate

Now why don't you go vote and pretend that supporting government is the way to be free.

I did it. I fed the troll. Hooray.


No need to get huffy.

Why not just address my points instead?
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2011, 10:07:22 AM »

No need to get huffy.

Why not just address my points instead?

I did. Better and more clearly than they it deserved.

I changed "racist" to bigot.

My work is done in that arena.

Accusing a well known market anarchist moderator with many thousands of posts backing his obviously non PC views of PC behavior is gonna get you some backlash.

Ron Paul said "Get the blacks off of welfare." - Not "Get rid of welfare." or "Get rid of the welfare state." or "Help create jerbs for poor people." or "Help poor people make better lives for themselves."

"The blacks."

As if "The blacks" are the subject. The dude said a stupid thing. Call it whatever you want. I'm not being politically correct to point out that it is a stupid thing to say and that it looks bad.

It's a stupid fucking thing to say, no different than "We need to get The Jews more work in Hollywood." or "We need to get driver's training for the Asians." or "Let's crack down on Italian crime."

So stop being fucking stupid already.
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2011, 10:10:19 AM »

or "We need to get driver's training for the Asians."

+1000

Ok, maybe not "we",  but there should be a free market option here.
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2011, 10:40:53 AM »

No need to get huffy.

Why not just address my points instead?

I did. Better and more clearly than they it deserved.

I changed "racist" to bigot.

My work is done in that arena.

Accusing a well known market anarchist moderator with many thousands of posts backing his obviously non PC views of PC behavior is gonna get you some backlash.

Ron Paul said "Get the blacks off of welfare." - Not "Get rid of welfare." or "Get rid of the welfare state." or "Help create jerbs for poor people." or "Help poor people make better lives for themselves."

"The blacks."

As if "The blacks" are the subject. The dude said a stupid thing. Call it whatever you want. I'm not being politically correct to point out that it is a stupid thing to say and that it looks bad.

It's a stupid fucking thing to say, no different than "We need to get The Jews more work in Hollywood." or "We need to get driver's training for the Asians." or "Let's crack down on Italian crime."


Well now we're getting somewhere.

First, I highly doubt that RP actually said that. I can't even imagine him thinking it. But I suppose "I heard it on the internet so it must be true" prevails.

But even if he did say it, how does the desire to get blacks to be financially independent equate to a feeling of racial superiority?

If he said "I want to get people off of welfare," (which he probably HAS said), I'm assuming that would NOT be racist, but substituting the word "people" with "black" is racist? How so?

Is it racist to point out that blacks are typically superior to whites in sports? Actually, you are admitting that blacks are genetically superior to you -- the opposite of racism.

So what is a "bigot"? Anyone who disagrees with you?

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So stop being fucking stupid already.

Thanks for being a gentleman about this.
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2011, 10:45:39 AM »

Aren't there plenty of Jews in Hollywood?

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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2011, 11:17:21 AM »

Aren't there plenty of Jews in Hollywood?

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Yup.  So?
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2011, 11:49:17 AM »

I think what he means is that we need to get the Jews off Hollywood.
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Re: Ron Paul won't beat Obama because Americans will get afraid
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2011, 11:56:56 AM »

I was making fun of Shaw. I think of racism as a non issue.
I am not a racist, but I am very slow to use the accusation in libertarian circles. I don't like people on witch hunts any more then I like the actual racist. Most find I tend to react to actual crimes. I don't believe liberty and unpopular thinking are incompatible with each other. In fact I believe closed comunities with similar thinking assholes freely choosing to live there is a important component in a practical free society.
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