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Ron Paul’s Victory in New Hampshire was Both Wide and Deep
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.php?531-Ron-Paul%E2%80%99s-Victory-in-New-Hampshire-was-Both-Wide-and-Deep (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.php?531-Ron-Paul%E2%80%99s-Victory-in-New-Hampshire-was-Both-Wide-and-Deep)
Ron Paul came in a strong second out of thirty candidates on January 10th in the New Hampshire Republican Primary with 23% of the vote. While Paul was second overall, he won Coos County with over 30% of the vote. Paul was second in the nine other New Hampshire counties and only lost to Romney by 5 points in Cheshire, Grafton and Sullivan counties.
Paul won around sixty New Hampshire towns including the Keene area towns of Marlow, Sullivan, and Troy and the Concord area towns of Boscawen, Chichester, Epsom, Northfield, Salisbury, and Webster. Paul won the Taxachusetts border towns of Winchester, New Ipswich and Richmond, the only New Hampshire town Paul won in 2008. In 2012, Paul won Richmond with close to 50% of the vote. Paul won city wards all over the state from Franklin Ward 2 to Laconia Ward 5 in the Lakes Region, to Dover Ward 1 and Somersworth Ward 2 on the Maine border. Paul also won wards in Manchester, Nashua and Concord, New Hampshire’s three largest cities. Paul won Berlin, the northernmost city in New Hampshire and Claremont, a city on the Vermont border.
Ron Paul not only took second in the 2012 New Hampshire Republican Primary, but he also took second in the 2012 New Hampshire Democratic Primary. Ron Paul not only did well in the Democratic Primary, but he received more votes in the Republican Primary than Barack Obama received in the Democratic Primary.
According to a CNN Exit poll, Paul almost won 50% of the 18 to 29 year old vote in New Hampshire. Paul also won the 30 to 39 year old vote with 35% to Mitt Romney’s 34%. Paul did best with voters making under $30,000 per year, first time Republican Primary voters, undeclared voters, socially liberal voters, voters that wanted a true conservative, voters that wanted strong moral character and non-religious voters.
The New Hampshire Secretary of State official results
http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2012/ (http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2012/)
CNN Exit poll
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/epolls/nh (http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/epolls/nh)
Town Map
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/president/primaries/nh/results/ (http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/president/primaries/nh/results/)
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I wish I lived in a world where "Strong second" meant "Victory".
Would have won the state cross country in 1991.
BUT I FUCKING DIDN'T.
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I told you guys he'd get his ass stomped in SC though.
I know how these knuckleheads think. Same things gonna happen in Florida too, maybe even worse.
Past that, he might actually start doing ok. I wish he'd run 3rd party though, taking his devout followers with him and just screw the whole thing up and throw it to Obama again.
That would make me chuckle. One last FUCK YOU to the system before he moves on to the rocking chair and retires.
Ron aint gonna be our next prez, so just keep him in the game long enough to piss people off.
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I wish I lived in a world where "Strong second" meant "Victory".
You make a good point. I still happy. Ron Paul won in about 1/4 of the municipalities in New Hampshire. He won the northern most county in New Hampshire and came within 5 points of Mitt Romney in 4 other counties. He also won a couple cities, tied for first in another and won city wards all across NH, including in Keene, Nashua, Manchester, Concord, Somersworth and Laconia. He also got around 50% of the under 30 vote. That is quite an accomplishment considering there were 30 candidates on the ballot :)
He won with the under 40 crowd but came in 4th with the 65+ crowd. Maybe Rand Paul can win New Hampshire in 8 years :)
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Maybe Rand Paul can win New Hampshire in 8 years :)
In 8 years, they probably wont even bother with elections.
They'll just anoint a king.
Probably Newt Gingrich, with his wife sitting on a throne next to him snacking on the remains of a still-born fetus.
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Probably Newt Gingrich, with his wife sitting on a throne next to him snacking on the remains of a still-born fetus.
Didn't you hear? Gingrich lost the 2012 November Presidential Election, WAR FOR THE WHITE HOUSE!!! Diebold accidently leaks 2012 election results (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojmOESqVeak#ws)
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Cool.
That gives him 8 years to concentrate on king school.
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I'm happy about any votes the dude gets above what he got last time. It means people are listening and thinking, because they clearly aren't voting for his looks or personality or ability to complete sentences.
I'm also happy that he is pulling a majority of young voters. That means if we can survive long enough to see the death of the old bastards who put us in this mess, we'll be doing pretty well.
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If they're gonna continue to have voting, doesn't it seem a bit strange that they allow people in their 80's to have a say on the direction of something that wont take effect until long after they are dead?
Seems voting should be reserved for people who will be around to reap the benefits/consequences of their vote. Some sort of cut-off age.
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All I want is for RP to do better in NH than any other state.
If they're gonna continue to have voting, doesn't it seem a bit strange that they allow people in their 80's to have a say
Q: What's the fastest-growing demographic segment in America?
A: 100yo and above
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I bet he'll do better in Montana.
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All I want is for RP to do better in NH than any other state.
If they're gonna continue to have voting, doesn't it seem a bit strange that they allow people in their 80's to have a say
Q: What's the fastest-growing demographic segment in America?
A: 100yo and above
There are other cool things to talk about. For example, did you know that only one candidate received a positive bump in the polls in South Carolina because of how well he did in the New Hampshire Primary? That's right, while Rick Santorum received a negative bump in the polls in South Carolina, Ron Paul actually received around a 7 point positive bump in South Carolina because he beat media expectations in New Hampshire.
Paul’s New Hampshire Bump Edit Blog Entry
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.php?530-Paul%E2%80%99s-New-Hampshire-Bump (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/entry.php?530-Paul%E2%80%99s-New-Hampshire-Bump)
Ron Paul came in a strong second on January 10th in the New Hampshire Republican Primary with 23% of the vote. Second out of thirty candidates is pretty impressive considering that some of the candidates lived in New Hampshire and most of them were only competing in New Hampshire. While it is true that Paul only came in second in New Hampshire, Paul was the only candidate to get a bump in the South Carolina polls from the New Hampshire election results.
In polls by three different polling companies, Ron Paul had a significant bump in South Carolina. According to the South Carolina PPP poll before the New Hampshire Primary, Ron Paul polled at 9%. In the PPP poll right after the New Hampshire Primary, Ron Paul polled at 15%. The pre-New Hampshire Primary Rasmussen Reports poll had Ron Paul at 11%. The post-New Hampshire Primary Rasmussen Reports poll had Ron Paul at 16%. The American Research Group polls before and after the New Hampshire Primary showed a jump from 9% to 20% for Ron Paul in South Carolina.
While New Hampshire gave a bump to Ron Paul, no other candidate received a bump from the New Hampshire Primary. Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich did not change more than a point or two in either direction according to South Carolina polls by American Research Group, Rasmussen Reports and PPP.
Rick Santorum received a negative bump from the New Hampshire Primary. Rick Santorum was tied with Gingrich for second in South Carolina before the New Hampshire Primary. After the New Hampshire Primary, Santorum dropped 17 points from 24% to 7% according to American Research Group. According to Rasmussen Reports, Santorum dropped 8 points in South Carolina.
New Hampshire ended the campaign for several candidates. Jon Huntsman moved to New Hampshire months before the Primary. Huntsman campaigned exclusively in New Hampshire. However, he only finished a distant third in New Hampshire and dropped out of the race. Rick Perry was at one time leading in nationwide polls. However, Perry received less than 1% of the vote in New Hampshire and dropped out of the race.
All of the information from the PPP and Rasmussen Reports polls mentioned above is located on the South Carolina Republican Primary Polls section of the Real Clear Politics website. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mary-1590.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mary-1590.html)
The American Research Group polls are found on the American Research Group website. http://americanresearchgroup.com/pre...rimary/rep/sc/ (http://americanresearchgroup.com/pre...rimary/rep/sc/)
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Does it really matter how well he does though? We all know he's not gonna be the next prez. I guess a bump in the polls shows Libertarian ideas are a bit more popular than 4 years ago, but thats about all it shows.
As long as he stays in the debates to the end, I dont care if he gets zero %