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Title: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 10, 2008, 07:25:05 PM
Someone should add Ron Paul's endorsement of the Free State Project to his main Wikipedia page so that more people will learn of it.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsment on Wikipedia
Post by: Alex Libman on February 10, 2008, 09:29:20 PM
Don't look at me, I'm banned for calling global warming a hoax...

(And, no, I will not edit anonymously.  I'll wait until the weight of missing out on countless 1000s of things I could have contributed to Wikipedia overwhelms them and they publicly apologize.  Yes sir, any day now...)
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 10, 2008, 11:45:16 PM
(And, no, I will not edit anonymously.  I'll wait until the weight of missing out on countless 1000s of things I could have contributed to Wikipedia overwhelms them and they publicly apologize.  Yes sir, any day now...)

Ah, come on. You know you want to.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsment on Wikipedia
Post by: Harry Tuttle on February 11, 2008, 01:24:39 AM
Don't look at me, I'm banned for calling global warming a hoax...

(And, no, I will not edit anonymously.  I'll wait until the weight of missing out on countless 1000s of things I could have contributed to Wikipedia overwhelms them and they publicly apologize.  Yes sir, any day now...)


Seriously? Banned for that? Or is there more to the story?

Sounds like they need competition. How about "Truthepedia". Or - if one is lazy like me - H2G2.com (The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy)?
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: Alex Libman on February 11, 2008, 05:59:39 AM
There's more to the story - after failing to win the argument that "List of scientists opposing the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming)" is a biased article title, I've maliciously renamed it to "List of scientists opposing the Global Warming hoax".  Twice.

Well, anyway, their loss.  And my gain, because I would have wasted a lot of time over the years fixing vandalism, typos, and errors I encounter pretty much daily on my Watchlist.  The "let someone else do it" philosophy is very important when dealing with open source projects - why waste your own time when someone can waste theirs instead?  ;)

I like just being a lurker in some things...  I've been a lurker on this BBS for a while before signing up a year and a half ago too...
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 12, 2008, 04:06:06 AM
I like just being a lurker in some things...  I've been a lurker on this BBS for a while before signing up a year and a half ago too...

How long were you a lurker?

I registered just a few days after subscribing to Free Talk Live. I thought it was a good show. I didn't post or go back until after listening to FTL for a few months though.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: Alex Libman on February 12, 2008, 03:03:39 PM
Hard to say, because my interest has accelerated gradually.  Not more than a year, with regular lurking period of a few weeks.  Then I decided to engage myself to the FSP and started AMP`ing FTL.  The engagement has been called off though...  ;)
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 12, 2008, 03:14:48 PM
When are you going to start AMPing again?
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: Alex Libman on February 12, 2008, 03:40:17 PM
I can't stand mediocrity or centrism.  Either I love something or I don't.  I can't just AMP a small amount like normal people, and I just don't feel the same way about FSP / FTL as I used to...
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 12, 2008, 03:45:10 PM
I can't stand mediocrity or centrism.  Either I love something or I don't.  I can't just AMP a small amount like normal people, and I just don't feel the same way about FSP / FTL as I used to...

Come on, FTL is a great investment for liberty!
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: jimmed on February 12, 2008, 03:47:51 PM
Come on, FTL is a great investment for liberty!

Sakal/CAI certainly thinks so.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 12, 2008, 03:48:14 PM
Come on, FTL is a great investment for liberty!
Sakal/CAI certainly thinks so.

Do you?
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: sillyperson on February 12, 2008, 03:51:34 PM
(http://blogs.amnestyusa.org/pub/amnestyusa/death-penalty/beating-a-dead-horse.gif)
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: jimmed on February 12, 2008, 04:02:05 PM
Come on, FTL is a great investment for liberty!
Sakal/CAI certainly thinks so.

Do you?

I think using government airwaves to spread your message is a bit hypocritical.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 12, 2008, 05:07:58 PM
(http://blogs.amnestyusa.org/pub/amnestyusa/death-penalty/beating-a-dead-horse.gif)

Why do you say that?


Come on, FTL is a great investment for liberty!
Sakal/CAI certainly thinks so.
Do you?
I think using government airwaves to spread your message is a bit hypocritical.

Consider this:

The airwaves should be treated like any other finite resource that has a definable area of influence. Radio really is just an extradimensional resource supply. And because property rights are based on improvements, changes, and exclamation of ownership, if you are the first to put up a radio station you own the right to stop others from destroying your signal inside your range. That means that just like how grocery stores are competitive, along with every other type of business, radio stations could be the same way. They would be able to legitimately shut down any violators of their radio property rights.

Another view that opposes my argument of radio as an extradimensional resource supply is to look at this like shutting down people's pirate stations is itself aggressive, and is a violation of physical property rights. However, my sophistication allows for an increase of technological development that inevitably occurs whenever rational yet evolving minds collate together and advance toward the future. The technological development that is our society occurs whenever property rights based on original appropriation are followed. In other words, if you disagree with my sophistication, society will pass you by anyway, obey my correct objective morality, and realize that original appropriation of radio is legitimate. Your morality will be outdated, and will fade away as believers pass on, just as it has done again and again, from Zeus to Thor.

Thus, because of being seen as aggressive action, violations of radio property rights would be handled by private dispute resolution organizations, and we would be a lot better off.

I don't know how difficult it would be to get rid of the FCC, but as far as I know they don't do that much in the way of helping the medium of radio.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: sillyperson on February 12, 2008, 05:26:22 PM
(http://blogs.amnestyusa.org/pub/amnestyusa/death-penalty/beating-a-dead-horse.gif)

Why do you say that?


AlexLibman's hot/cold relationship to FTL were a topic of discussion a few months ago.

Let's get back to snow pen0rs.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 12, 2008, 05:35:49 PM
AlexLibman's hot/cold relationship to FTL were a topic of discussion a few months ago.
Let's get back to snow pen0rs.

 :lol:

I still think it is important to reach out to past AMPlifiers and try to get them to AMP again. It is a worthy cause.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: Harry Tuttle on February 12, 2008, 07:49:13 PM
I don't know anything about any particular person's history or relation to anything (except my own). But my $.0002 (adjusted for inflation) is this:

The liberty movement is about getting more and more people to understand what liberty is, its benefits to them and all of society, and to want to be part of it. I don't care how we do that (short of force) and I don't think that anything that falls short of liberty for everyone starting the 1st of next month is a complete failure.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: AntonLee on February 12, 2008, 07:56:22 PM
Come on, FTL is a great investment for liberty!
Sakal/CAI certainly thinks so.

Do you?

I think using government airwaves to spread your message is a bit hypocritical.

I wonder if you use government water to bathe yourself.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: jimmed on February 12, 2008, 07:58:14 PM
Come on, FTL is a great investment for liberty!
Sakal/CAI certainly thinks so.

Do you?

I think using government airwaves to spread your message is a bit hypocritical.

I wonder if you use government water to bathe yourself.

Indeed. I even drive on government roads. And walk on government sidewalks.
Title: Re: Ron Paul's FSP Endorsement on Wikipedia
Post by: MobileDigit on February 14, 2008, 12:21:49 AM
I don't think that anything that falls short of liberty for everyone starting the 1st of next month is a complete failure.

Liberty will take as long as you yourself want it to take. The harder you work to convince people on an individual basis, the faster liberty will be achieved.


I wonder if you use government water to bathe yourself.
Indeed. I even drive on government roads. And walk on government sidewalks.

There is nothing wrong with that. When humanity as a whole comes together in favor of my idea of agnosticism, we will spontaneously take control over the property rights that exist after government is abandoned.