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Title: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 12:03:49 PM
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NHArticleTen Thinks I have admin powers.

*Sigh*

I am not an admin, Rob. I never deleted any of your posts. It didn't happen that way.

What happened was that I deleted the entire thread, and reposted it. Your posts weren't the only ones deleted. That's it. I don't have admin powers, and if I did, I wouldn't use them against you.

You don't understand me at all, and you never have, and you've never bothered to find out.

On the other hand, I understand you quite well. You see, I have a lot of experience with people who are disturbed, Rob. A lot. Both professionally, personally and politically. You're not crazy. I know that. At least, not crazy in the way you seem to think I mean.

You want to know why I have a problem with you? Honestly? Accusations of craziness aside?

1. You talk trash.
Macho talk about how you're gonna do x,y, and z and how you "ain't gonna take any shit from THE MAN" and how people need to rise up and start shooting government people and all of that stuff is a bunch of hot air, man. People who take action don't talk shit. They do it and keep their mouths shut. What they don't do is talk about all of their "professional training" and "extensive knowledge" and stuff like that. That's poser talk, Rob. Now, you actually go and show up to functions and take real action, from what I understand, so why the hell are you trash talking? There's no reason for it and it looks like internet bullshit, man.

2. You poison the well.
For whatever reason, (Poor writing skills, lack of lucidity, some sort of strategic affectation to appear harmless etc.) when you write a post, it is peppered with repetitive phrases and poor grammar. You come off as crazy. Crazy people draw negative attention. And I'm not talking about from the government. I'm talking about people who are interested in freedom and go to a place to learn more, and run into people who behave like yourself. They fucking leave, man. You have no responsibility to anyone else to behave in any particular way, but other people are gonna get pissed at all of the crazy talk. People like me and a few others. Your behavior gives freedom lovers a bad name.

3. No one understands you.
This is related to the last point. People don't know what you're going on about, Rob. You seem to have made a whole special language of your own, consisting mostly of catchphrases that you seem to have just made up at some point. And then you repeat them, over and over again. No one understands what you are trying to say. Are you trying to create a meme? Is there some sort of lexicon that I don't know about? No one knows, Rob. You pepper your sentences with ellipses, inferring that people draw some sort of implied logical conclusion from what you are saying, but nobody has any idea, and that leads to repeated misunderstandings. If people need a special key code to understand what you are saying, you are not communicating properly. If you choose not to communicate properly, why bother posting at all? It serves no purpose.

4. You continually make veiled threats.
This one is obvious. You aren't being super sneaky or slipping one by people. You make threats and people can tell. People get a creepy vibe from you, Rob. They think you aren't normal. If this is deliberate, no one else knows and you have succeeded in your efforts. You are a menacing person, and people are uncomfortable around you on the BBS. Some people are more tolerant about this than others, and some people just ignore it when you get all creepy. I'm certain that people will back me up on this.

So that's it.

Look, everyone has problems, alright? But you never seem to address yours when they are pointed out, or even acknowledge that they even exist. You just BLANK OUT when someone notices the crazy talk. I don't know if it's a compulsion or an obsession or what, but you aren't hiding it from anyone, if that's what you think.

My problem is engaging with people like yourself. People like you don't EVER stop, and for me, each person is a new, separate event. I have a hard time picking up on a behavior and generalizing enough to just ignore the wackjob as soon as I realize that they are a wackjob. It's probably a side effect of my dedication to individualism. I treat each person as a new case. Well, crazy is all the fucking same. There's no one home with a crazy person, you see. Takes me a while to figure out each time, because while I am frighteningly intelligent, the gears turn slowly.

And, of course, sometimes I have to learn my lesson more than once.

I know you won't really read this post, or understand it in the way I meant it if you do, but I didn't really write it for you. I wrote it for me. You see, I'll probably be able to ignore you for a while after this. It won't stop me from hating your fucking guts, (And you shouldn't even take that personally, it's not Rob I hate, it's the crazy talk motherfucker he hides behind.) but I'll probably be able to overlook it for a while.

So I've admitted something about myself. I have given you a criticism that was well written and thought out. I have been open and honest with you. How are you going to respond to this? Everything anyone needs to know about you will be clarified by your response. Or lack of one.

So cough it up, chump.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 23, 2008, 12:24:12 PM
Hey Rob,

If I do a documentary on the FSP, would you be up for an interview?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 23, 2008, 12:28:29 PM

can anyone establish the first post where John attacked me...

first blood was drawn somewhere back there...

perhaps someone noticed a pattern...

John attacks knowing full well that I don't care what he thinks or writes...

but I do respond to let him know I know he knows I know he knows...whatever...

John attacks and I respond...there is no puzzle or question...

John attacks and I respond...



what part of "leave me alone" doesn't John understand...

Run John run.  See John run.  Hear John run.  Smell John run.

Spot...
See Spot...
See Spot run...
Smell Spot run...



no bullshit John...I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAY OR WRITE...

others understand this...WHY CAN'T YOU...



put me on "ignore" and leave me on "ignore" and leave me the hell alone...



how much more "plain" does it have to be...


LEAVE ME ALONE...
LEAVE ME COMPLETELY ALONE...
DON'T EVER READ ONE OF MY POSTS AGAIN...
DON'T EVER COMMENT ON ONE OF MY POSTS AGAIN...


read john read

see john see


comprende? (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/comprende/)

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 12:30:10 PM
can anyone establish the first post where John attacked me...

first blood was drawn somewhere back there...

perhaps someone noticed a pattern...

John attacks knowing full well that I don't care what he thinks or writes...

but I do respond to let him know I know he knows I know he knows...whatever...

John attacks and I respond...there is no puzzle or question...

John attacks and I respond...

what part of "leave me alone" doesn't John understand...

Run John run.  See John run.  Hear John run.  Smell John run.

Spot...
See Spot...
See Spot run...
Smell Spot run...

no bullshit John...I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAY OR WRITE...

others understand this...WHY CAN'T YOU...

put me on "ignore" and leave me on "ignore" and leave me the hell alone...

how much more "plain" does it have to be...

LEAVE ME ALONE...
LEAVE ME COMPLETELY ALONE...
DON'T EVER READ ONE OF MY POSTS AGAIN...
DON'T EVER COMMENT ON ONE OF MY POSTS AGAIN...

read john read

see john see

comprende? (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/comprende/)



Thank you for proving my point. You obviously didn't read my post, or didn't understand it.
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So I've admitted something about myself. I have given you a criticism that was well written and thought out. I have been open and honest with you. How are you going to respond to this? Everything anyone needs to know about you will be clarified by your response. Or lack of one.

That's what I get for making an effort.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: trollfreezone on September 23, 2008, 12:57:17 PM
 :lol:

Don't bother John.  He's...him....
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 01:01:06 PM
:lol:

Don't bother John.  He's...him....

I know, there's no one there but defenses and crazy talk. I wonder what happened, sometimes.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 23, 2008, 01:34:17 PM
If the shit hits the fan, I'm inviting Rob over to my place.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on September 23, 2008, 01:44:16 PM
I got a feeling that NH10 is not 'real.' He's someone's persona or whatever.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Evil Muppet on September 23, 2008, 01:57:13 PM
No, NH10 is real.  He is a creepy guy.  He is crazy.  Everything John Shaw has said about the guy is right on.  NH10 is just fucking nuts. 

If the shit hits the fan I'd personally keep NH10 as far away from me as possible.  He doesn't even have the good sense and judgment now when things are not bad.  Would you really want some nut case like that around at a period of time when judgment would be necessary?  I think not.   
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 23, 2008, 02:08:27 PM
I know, there's no one there but defenses and crazy talk. I wonder what happened, sometimes.

I think Rob just gets very emotional when he reads some of these stories. The way he talks on here is just his way of dealing with it.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 23, 2008, 02:33:44 PM
^^^^^^^^^^
That's possible too.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 23, 2008, 02:35:04 PM
I LIEK ORANGES
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 23, 2008, 02:41:10 PM
I have a paranoid streak in me. 

This paranoid streak tells me to be wary of him for one of the two following reasons:

 
  • He is operating in a stool pigeon capacity, a subversive agent for the 'other side' who positions himself as a radical in order to attract and befriend people who have opinions similar to the ones he portrays in this arena.  He got himself in a whole shitload of trouble somewhere, and was flipped like a rat.  And he's terrible at it.  But as terrible as he may be at his task, he has the inroads unavailable to his handlers, and is wacky enough to produce results and some intel by association.

  • He is dangerously off his rocker, and would make a suitable candidate for Lee Harvey Oswald training.  This place is, for certain, monitored by feds (if not penetrated).  They will have noticed this trait and will no doubt pay attention to his activities, which puts him back into the above category but without his direct willing participation.

Either way, he's toxic. 

guess it takes one to know one...

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: trollfreezone on September 23, 2008, 03:07:32 PM
Rubber and glue, and all that, huh Robbie?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: JWI on September 23, 2008, 03:14:01 PM
  • He is operating in a stool pigeon capacity, a subversive agent for the 'other side' who positions himself as a radical in order to attract and befriend people who have opinions similar to the ones he portrays in this arena.  He got himself in a whole shitload of trouble somewhere, and was flipped like a rat.  And he's terrible at it.  But as terrible as he may be at his task, he has the inroads unavailable to his handlers, and is wacky enough to produce results and some intel by association.

guess it takes one to know one...

So you admit it officer?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Elitist Bitch on September 23, 2008, 03:16:07 PM
Or Agent, maybe?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 23, 2008, 03:22:29 PM
a stool pigeon...
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 23, 2008, 05:04:52 PM
a stool pigeon...
An idiot.  A nutcase.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 05:09:14 PM
But remember everyone - Everyone agrees with Rob and disagrees with me. Let's have a record of that.  8)

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: orion on September 23, 2008, 05:10:37 PM
There is a very good chance that Rob suffers from some type of mental disability and we would never know because this is the Internet. I have a cousin that is like that, and I've seen the disastrous results on newsgroups.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 05:20:32 PM
There is a very good chance that Rob suffers from some type of mental disability and we would never know because this is the Internet. I have a cousin that is like that, and I've seen the disastrous results on newsgroups.

Naw, he's mostly there. People know him IRL around here. FSP people and such. He's been on Ridley's youtube show.

I'd link you to many forum threads about his personal life and weird interactions with others, but most of it is old news and I was trying somewhat to be understanding in this thread. I'm sure someone could provide you with links, of course.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: JWI on September 23, 2008, 05:29:40 PM
He's been on Ridley's show?  I'll have to go back and watch 'em all again to see if I can find him.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 23, 2008, 05:39:20 PM
Maybe he just wants his own reality show?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Elitist Bitch on September 23, 2008, 05:41:09 PM
Maybe he just wants his own reality show?

"Reality" might be a bad word.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: YixilTesiphon on September 23, 2008, 06:02:03 PM
I have a paranoid streak in me. 

This paranoid streak tells me to be wary of him for one of the two following reasons:

 
  • He is operating in a stool pigeon capacity, a subversive agent for the 'other side' who positions himself as a radical in order to attract and befriend people who have opinions similar to the ones he portrays in this arena.  He got himself in a whole shitload of trouble somewhere, and was flipped like a rat.  And he's terrible at it.  But as terrible as he may be at his task, he has the inroads unavailable to his handlers, and is wacky enough to produce results and some intel by association.

  • He is dangerously off his rocker, and would make a suitable candidate for Lee Harvey Oswald training.  This place is, for certain, monitored by feds (if not penetrated).  They will have noticed this trait and will no doubt pay attention to his activities, which puts him back into the above category but without his direct willing participation.

Either way, he's toxic. 

These are pretty much my thoughts on him too. We all know the Feds aren't too bright, so them hiring a nutcase shouldn't be surprising. Only guy on here I know for sure wouldn't fuck me over is BJ, and that's because I've met him. It would take me about five minutes to trust Brasky, Shaw, Lindsey, rabidfurby, etc once I met them. I don't think I'd talk to Rob were I to get the opportunity. Brasky makes a very good point that people that act like idiots might as well be Feds.

(That was incoherent. Need to get more sleep.)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 23, 2008, 06:08:09 PM
There are a lot of people here, and Rob is not the only one - that don't seem to be grounded in reality.  They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government, refuse to use FRNs, nitpick about DRM on a CD, stuff like that.  Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 23, 2008, 06:11:01 PM
Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 

Lindsey, you don't have to die to get DRM-free music. Just a heads up...  :P
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 23, 2008, 06:11:34 PM
.  Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 
Sellout.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 23, 2008, 06:12:04 PM
Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 

Lindsey, you don't have to die to get DRM-free music. Just a heads up...  :P

Yeah, I know.  But that whole mess is just Goddamn ridiculous.  I'm not willing to DIE for much, if any of this stuff. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: trollfreezone on September 23, 2008, 06:17:52 PM
There are a lot of people here, and Rob is not the only one - that don't seem to be grounded in reality.  They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government, refuse to use FRNs, nitpick about DRM on a CD, stuff like that.  Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 

I'm really sorry about that.  Some of us think we have a right to receive what we were told we were purchasing.  I didn't know it compromised your ability to live.  Oh, the hyperbole!
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 23, 2008, 06:22:13 PM
(http://funkthat1.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/idead.jpg)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 23, 2008, 06:28:23 PM
There are a lot of people here, and Rob is not the only one - that don't seem to be grounded in reality.  They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government, refuse to use FRNs, nitpick about DRM on a CD, stuff like that.  Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 

I'm really sorry about that.  Some of us think we have a right to receive what we were told we were purchasing.  I didn't know it compromised your ability to live.  Oh, the hyperbole!

What you just did there - that was hyperbole.  Seriously, you need a sedative or something.  All I said was that I think you're goofy.  It's not really an insult, and I'm not calling you names.  I have respect for a lot of what you put forth here - that just is not one that I agree with though.  It's very simple. 

What I meant there, I should have phrased a bit more specifically.  When I said I wouldn't compromise my ability to live, I was thinking of people like the Browns, or the Kannings, or Lauren Canario.  I'm not going to land myself in jail for a good long while, or have the feds surrounding my house all because I want to champion the cause of liberty.  There are ways of doing things that allow you to keep your home, your job, your family, etc.  And still buy any damn music you want.  :-P
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Elitist Bitch on September 23, 2008, 06:31:57 PM
There are a lot of people here, and Rob is not the only one - that don't seem to be grounded in reality.  They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government, refuse to use FRNs, nitpick about DRM on a CD, stuff like that.  Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 

I'm really sorry about that.  Some of us think we have a right to receive what we were told we were purchasing.  I didn't know it compromised your ability to live.  Oh, the hyperbole!

What you just did there - that was hyperbole.  Seriously, you need a sedative or something.  All I said was that I think you're goofy.  It's not really an insult, and I'm not calling you names.  I have respect for a lot of what you put forth here - that just is not one that I agree with though.  It's very simple. 

What I meant there, I should have phrased a bit more specifically.  When I said I wouldn't compromise my ability to live, I was thinking of people like the Browns, or the Kannings, or Lauren Canario.  I'm not going to land myself in jail for a good long while, or have the feds surrounding my house all because I want to champion the cause of liberty.  There are ways of doing things that allow you to keep your home, your job, your family, etc.  And still buy any damn music you want.  :-P

Exactly.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on September 23, 2008, 06:37:08 PM
They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government,

I overthrew the government last week by the way, it's been all over the news..what cave have you been living in?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 23, 2008, 06:40:31 PM
They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government,

I overthrew the government last week by the way, it's been all over the news..what cave have you been living in?

I just saved some money on my car insurance.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 23, 2008, 06:42:41 PM
They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government,

I overthrew the government last week by the way, it's been all over the news..what cave have you been living in?

I just saved some money on my car insurance.

Did you also stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: trollfreezone on September 23, 2008, 06:57:26 PM
There are a lot of people here, and Rob is not the only one - that don't seem to be grounded in reality.  They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government, refuse to use FRNs, nitpick about DRM on a CD, stuff like that.  Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 

I'm really sorry about that.  Some of us think we have a right to receive what we were told we were purchasing.  I didn't know it compromised your ability to live.  Oh, the hyperbole!

What you just did there - that was hyperbole.  Seriously, you need a sedative or something.  All I said was that I think you're goofy.  It's not really an insult, and I'm not calling you names.  I have respect for a lot of what you put forth here - that just is not one that I agree with though.  It's very simple. 

What I meant there, I should have phrased a bit more specifically.  When I said I wouldn't compromise my ability to live, I was thinking of people like the Browns, or the Kannings, or Lauren Canario.  I'm not going to land myself in jail for a good long while, or have the feds surrounding my house all because I want to champion the cause of liberty.  There are ways of doing things that allow you to keep your home, your job, your family, etc.  And still buy any damn music you want.  :-P

Hyperbole?  Which part?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 07:27:25 PM
Well, I'd male a poll, but it doesn't take a majority consensus for me to know that Rob is a fucking nutbag batshit insane violence peddler/promoter.

If there's anyone on the BBS who I've butted heads with that I'd be concerned about showing up at my door and trying to plug me, it's him. No one else.

Not that I actually think that he'd do that or anything. I'm just saying is all.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 23, 2008, 07:29:17 PM
They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government,

I overthrew the government last week by the way, it's been all over the news..what cave have you been living in?

I just saved some money on my car insurance.

Did you also stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? 

You mean the Ritz Carlton?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 23, 2008, 07:30:40 PM
I have a paranoid streak in me. 

This paranoid streak tells me to be wary of him for one of the two following reasons:

 
  • He is operating in a stool pigeon capacity, a subversive agent for the 'other side' who positions himself as a radical in order to attract and befriend people who have opinions similar to the ones he portrays in this arena.  He got himself in a whole shitload of trouble somewhere, and was flipped like a rat.  And he's terrible at it.  But as terrible as he may be at his task, he has the inroads unavailable to his handlers, and is wacky enough to produce results and some intel by association.

  • He is dangerously off his rocker, and would make a suitable candidate for Lee Harvey Oswald training.  This place is, for certain, monitored by feds (if not penetrated).  They will have noticed this trait and will no doubt pay attention to his activities, which puts him back into the above category but without his direct willing participation.

Either way, he's toxic. 

guess it takes one to know one...



Exactly.  Thats why I go to all the events and activities and capitalize on all the acquaintances I've met here, and bend over backwards in an attempt to remain within the good graces of the more ardent supporters of the Project and its satellite causes. 

Starting tomorrow. 

Bwahahahahahaha!  Refreshing.  Thank you. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 23, 2008, 07:54:52 PM
I have a paranoid streak in me. 

This paranoid streak tells me to be wary of him for one of the two following reasons:

 
  • He is operating in a stool pigeon capacity, a subversive agent for the 'other side' who positions himself as a radical in order to attract and befriend people who have opinions similar to the ones he portrays in this arena.  He got himself in a whole shitload of trouble somewhere, and was flipped like a rat.  And he's terrible at it.  But as terrible as he may be at his task, he has the inroads unavailable to his handlers, and is wacky enough to produce results and some intel by association.

  • He is dangerously off his rocker, and would make a suitable candidate for Lee Harvey Oswald training.  This place is, for certain, monitored by feds (if not penetrated).  They will have noticed this trait and will no doubt pay attention to his activities, which puts him back into the above category but without his direct willing participation.

Either way, he's toxic. 

These are pretty much my thoughts on him too. We all know the Feds aren't too bright, so them hiring a nutcase shouldn't be surprising. Only guy on here I know for sure wouldn't fuck me over is BJ, and that's because I've met him. It would take me about five minutes to trust Brasky, Shaw, Lindsey, rabidfurby, etc once I met them. I don't think I'd talk to Rob were I to get the opportunity. Brasky makes a very good point that people that act like idiots might as well be Feds.

(That was incoherent. Need to get more sleep.)



wut the fuck?
i don't make the 'list'?
the indignity
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 23, 2008, 08:06:37 PM
i think this rob dude would be invaluable in an end-of-world, societal breakdown, fending off looters/jackboots & thugs, oh my.....and zombies (a nod to shinyvandal)but when the dust has settled, & you're nestled in the underground bunker one night, & you've bent over the coffee pot burbling on the sterno-stove, or reached for a can of cling peaches in syrup, BAP-BAP!!!! rob delivers 2 to the back of your head.
your bunker is now HIS bunker...he doesn't need you anymore... he earned your bunker....and your cling peaches in syrup, and your chef boy-ar-dee ravioli (a nod to shaw)
& rob doesn't own a car/house/land/bunker....so am i stretching it here?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: trollfreezone on September 23, 2008, 08:21:02 PM
They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government,

I overthrew the government last week by the way, it's been all over the news..what cave have you been living in?

I LOL'd!

There are a lot of people here, and Rob is not the only one - that don't seem to be grounded in reality.  They live in a fantasy world where they overthrow the government, refuse to use FRNs, nitpick about DRM on a CD, stuff like that.  Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 

I'm really sorry about that.  Some of us think we have a right to receive what we were told we were purchasing.  I didn't know it compromised your ability to live.  Oh, the hyperbole!

What you just did there - that was hyperbole.  Seriously, you need a sedative or something.  All I said was that I think you're goofy.  It's not really an insult, and I'm not calling you names.  I have respect for a lot of what you put forth here - that just is not one that I agree with though.  It's very simple. 

What I meant there, I should have phrased a bit more specifically.  When I said I wouldn't compromise my ability to live, I was thinking of people like the Browns, or the Kannings, or Lauren Canario.  I'm not going to land myself in jail for a good long while, or have the feds surrounding my house all because I want to champion the cause of liberty.  There are ways of doing things that allow you to keep your home, your job, your family, etc.  And still buy any damn music you want.  :-P

Hyperbole?  Which part?

The deafening sound of crickets...
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 08:27:45 PM
i think this rob dude would be invaluable in an end-of-world, societal breakdown, fending off looters/jackboots & thugs, oh my.....and zombies (a nod to shinyvandal)but when the dust has settled, & you're nestled in the underground bunker one night, & you've bent over the coffee pot burbling on the sterno-stove, or reached for a can of cling peaches in syrup, BAP-BAP!!!! rob delivers 2 to the back of your head.
your bunker is now HIS bunker...he doesn't need you anymore... he earned your bunker....and your cling peaches in syrup, and your chef boy-ar-dee ravioli (a nod to shaw)
& rob doesn't own a car/house/land/bunker....so am i stretching it here?

My bet is that he has zero experience with actually dealing with any sort of SHTF situation, (Of any kind, violent or non violent) and would either follow a strong (Maybe smart, maybe dumb, but strong.) leader and be a spear carrier, like Roger in Lord of the Flies, or the whip dude from Army of Darkness - A follower who is also a vicious thug.

Or he'd just be too paranoid and proud to accept help, run off on his own, and die of exposure with a battered copy of Field Manual 21-76 and a flint rock clutched in his hand after three days.

NHAT is a poser.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 08:55:13 PM
I'd like to know where this "professional training" came from allofasudden. 

More likely than not out of his ass.

Thanks for the setup.  :P
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on September 23, 2008, 09:15:27 PM
Naw, he's mostly there. People know him IRL around here. FSP people and such. He's been on Ridley's youtube show.

link?

I'd like to see a video of him IRL.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 09:26:06 PM
link?

I'd like to see a video of him IRL.

You owe me a Coke.

[youtube=425,350]YrS-QEu6DkM[/youtube]
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 23, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VPzWWPK2wE

[youtube=425,350]3VPzWWPK2wE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: MacFall on September 23, 2008, 09:31:48 PM
Jesus Christ, I want the same things most of us do, but I'm not willing to compromise my ability to live to get them. 

Lindsey, you don't have to die to get DRM-free music. Just a heads up...  :P

For that matter, my life has actually improved since I started reducing my use of FRNs and trading by other means.

Small steps, that's the key.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: JWI on September 23, 2008, 09:35:09 PM
Jackhole has and probably still is being investigated for threats?  I most certainly do not want to be around any people like this.  Fuck NH.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: AntonLee on September 23, 2008, 09:39:08 PM
Jackhole has and probably still is being investigated for threats?  I most certainly do not want to be around any people like this.  Fuck NH.

thankfully there's no one like this in any other state in the United States.  NH is the only place in the world that has people who make threats!
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 09:42:27 PM
thankfully there's no one like this in any other state in the United States.  NH is the only place in the world that has people who make threats!

See "2. You poison the well." from my original post.

You are seeing it in action, right there.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: MacFall on September 23, 2008, 09:46:55 PM
Jackhole has and probably still is being investigated for threats?  I most certainly do not want to be around any people like this.  Fuck NH.

thankfully there's no one like this in any other state in the United States.  NH is the only place in the world that has people who make threats!

Thank God I'm here in PA, where I only have to worry about being pulled over on suspicion of owning a firearm because of a bumper sticker and fined for not having my seat belt buckled by a state cop belonging to one of the most corrupt forces in the US who have been known to smash peoples' tail lights and then cite them for having broken tail lights. Oh, and being fined for smoking in a nebulously-defined "business" in several counties. Oh, and not even being able to raise rabbits or grow corn in my yard because PA has agricultural zoning. Oh, and watching my neighbors' kids get arrested for truancy because they had to take care of their bedridden mother.

Yeah, no threats here.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on September 23, 2008, 09:56:17 PM
link?

I'd like to see a video of him IRL.

You owe me a Coke.

[youtube=425,350]YrS-QEu6DkM[/youtube]

he comes across a lot more comprehensible IRL than on the BBS
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 09:57:43 PM
he comes across a lot more comprehensible IRL than on the BBS

Oh, no doubt. But watch the video again and look at his eyes. Keep watching his eyes. You'll see something interesting.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 23, 2008, 10:03:17 PM
he comes across a lot more comprehensible IRL than on the BBS

Oh, no doubt. But watch the video again and look at his eyes. Keep watching his eyes. You'll see something interesting.

wat
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 10:09:09 PM
he comes across a lot more comprehensible IRL than on the BBS

Oh, no doubt. But watch the video again and look at his eyes. Keep watching his eyes. You'll see something interesting.

wat

Oculesics.

Part of Non-Verbal Communication. He's thinking about something far different than the conversation he's having. Specifically he's remembering things that he's heard. Aural memory. (If the science has much validity, which I think it does, personally.)

Also, watch the body language.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 23, 2008, 10:12:06 PM

I'd like to know where this "professional training" came from allofasudden. 
Dude, he is a Constitution Ranger.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 10:14:32 PM
Dude, he is a Constitution Ranger.

You're kidding, right? Are you serious?

*Serious laughter*

Oh man...
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: AntonLee on September 23, 2008, 10:15:21 PM
thankfully there's no one like this in any other state in the United States.  NH is the only place in the world that has people who make threats!

See "2. You poison the well." from my original post.

You are seeing it in action, right there.

I'm pretty well aware the government agents make threats.  I'm not defending him.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 10:18:19 PM
I'm pretty well aware the government agents make threats.  I'm not defending him.

Naw, I understand. I'm just pointing out the correlation between what I said about Rob and what JWI took from finding out about how fringe he and some of the other (crazy, not the cool ones) FSP people can get.

It was just backing up my claim. That's all.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 23, 2008, 10:18:35 PM
he comes across a lot more comprehensible IRL than on the BBS

Oh, no doubt. But watch the video again and look at his eyes. Keep watching his eyes. You'll see something interesting.

wat

Oculesics.

Part of Non-Verbal Communication. He's thinking about something far different than the conversation he's having. Specifically he's remembering things that he's heard. Aural memory. (If the science has much validity, which I think it does, personally.)

Also, watch the body language.

Ok. But what are you saying? I mean, what do you think he's thinking about?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: burnthebeautiful on September 23, 2008, 10:18:54 PM
I didn't realize until this thread that NHArticalTen was Rob. He was at a party at Ron Helwigs house that I was at around 2 years ago. I can't remember if I ever spoke to him myself, but he seemed completely normal. Maybe he should post the way he talks, because judging by my memory of him and the video that was just posted, he speaks in a completely normal way, where you understand what he means. Yet when he posts, it's complete jibberish.

*edit* posted wrong picture
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/89725/NHDecember06/Party/PICT1183.jpg)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 10:24:52 PM
Ok. But what are you saying? I mean, what do you think he's thinking about?

I have no idea. But he's not really listening to the dude on the phone, with the majority of his attention. He's remembering something else someone said.

He's also repeatedly looking over Ridley's shoulder at something. (That could be just something interesting, of course.)

He doesn't like making eye contact and looks at the ground a lot. This could just be a cell phone thing, but most people actually keep their head tilted straight ahead or slightly upward.

He keeps staring at a little notepad. Notes? He had the phone number on it, but it didn't look like a script or anything.

Of course, he could just be nervous around a camera.

All I'm really saying is that his body movement seems off, for whatever reason. It looked like he was gonna start in on the peepee dance at any moment.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 10:29:33 PM
I didn't realize until this thread that NHArticalTen was Rob. He was at a party at Ron Helwigs house that I was at around 2 years ago. I can't remember if I ever spoke to him myself, but he seemed completely normal. Maybe he should post the way he talks, because judging by my memory of him and the video that was just posted, he speaks in a completely normal way, where you understand what he means. Yet when he posts, it's complete jibberish.

Which is all the weirder considering his online behavior. It's like he's got a persona that he's keeping up, and when he writes stuff down, it just sorta falls apart.

But whatever, I won't deny for a second that this is all speculation on my part.

Either way, it's one of a few things. He's nuts, he wants people to think he's nuts, or he has the writing abilities of a seven year old. The last one can of course be forgiven.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: theodorelogan on September 23, 2008, 10:30:49 PM
NHAT might be completely nuts.  I don't know...I never met him.

But whether he advocates MURDER is a completely different issue.

John, since you have still failed to produce any evidence of NHAT suggesting the use of non-defensive force, I'd ask that you stick with the "bat-shit insane" name calling.  He doesn't advocate murder.

Suggesting that the world would be a better place if people sacked up and defended themselves from violent people is not insane.

BTW, I know people who talk like morons on the internet but are perfectly stable and intelligent people.  I can't say whether this fits Rob or not (although he seems perfectly sane in the video you posted..I'd be nervous as hell talking to the feds).
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on September 23, 2008, 10:46:19 PM
he comes across a lot more comprehensible IRL than on the BBS

Oh, no doubt. But watch the video again and look at his eyes. Keep watching his eyes. You'll see something interesting.

I noticed that. And I also noticed that his body language seemed . . . really off for someone who was talking to a Treasury agent on the phone.

Could have been the fact that he was at a protest and being recorded. Still . . .
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 10:47:17 PM
John, since you have still failed to produce any evidence of NHAT suggesting the use of non-defensive force, I'd ask that you stick with the "bat-shit insane" name calling.  He doesn't advocate murder.

So...
Seriously folks...
Don't you think it's time to take care of these bastards...

If your neighbor directly and/or indirectly supports these "wars"...you would be justified in using superior deadly self defense in defense of your fellow planetary inhabitants suffering these transgressions...

I see massive bloodshed on the american horizon...
And I don't see any way around it with so many clueless morons amongst us...

I'll do my part...
Will you do yours...

Pull, Point, and Press...
Repeat as Necessary...


But forget all of that. Did you read my original post in this thread when I dismissed all of that and made my criticisms of Rob? Do you dispute any of them?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 23, 2008, 10:48:23 PM
Dude, he is a Constitution Ranger.

You're kidding, right? Are you serious?
forizzle

He got sworn in at Ed Browns place before Ed was arrested, IIRC.

I could see Rob when I read this:
http://www.adl.org/MWD/trafstop.asp
Quote
Most--the vast majority--of right-wing, anti-government extremists are no Timothy McVeigh. And thankfully so. They have no more intention of blowing up a federal building than they do of flying to the moon. But there are other McVeighs out there. And there are others who may never plan to blow up a building, but under the right (or wrong) circumstances can be lethally dangerous. And there are many more who are simply so intransigent and so opposed to any form of authority that any confrontation with them is potentially dangerous. Traffic stops can be particularly so. Imagine yourself, for a moment, in the body of one of these anti-government activists. Youíve just been pulled over for speeding at the end of a long, grinding day. But you havenít done anything wrong, you havenít hurt anyone. And now here comes walking up to your car a highway patrol officer. Youíve put up with them taking taxes out of your paycheck. You acquiesced when the judge ordered wage garnishes for child support. You said okay when the city inspectors told you not to build your den without their permits. How much more should you take from them? How much more can you take? Maybe itís about time you stood up for yourself, stood up for your rights. Doesnít the Constitution apply to you, too? Isnít it about time they respected you for a change?

You can see how easily a confrontational attitude can build in one of these extremists. The officer performing the traffic stop ceases to be a human being and becomes much more of a symbol: the symbol of all the perceived oppression and tyranny that the person in the car has had to put up with all of his life. The officer now represents virtually all of "Government." To make matters worse, the person in the vehicle is quite likely to be armed and may well be far better armed than the officer who has pulled them over. Thus if the driver decides to be confrontational, he can be very dangerous indeed.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 10:49:30 PM
Hilarity.

(http://home.comcast.net/~archindividual/GodzillaFP.jpg)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: AntonLee on September 23, 2008, 10:59:22 PM
constitution ranger?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 11:00:34 PM
constitution ranger?

You asked for it.

http://uscccrangers.com/

There is much funny on that site.

They're basically a piss ant militia with a big mouth and delusions of grandeur.

Quote
The United States Constitution Rangers is an organization of dedicated Officers of Honor charged with the responsibility of policing the offices of public trust. Rangers pledge to defend our republican form of government provided by the Constitution of the united States of America and to protect the rights of the people as enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

The United States Constitution Rangers will reawaken the sprit of liberty by educating the people, investigating issues and intervention when necessary.

When called upon by citizens or other public servants United States Constitution Ranges will aid in the defense of their rights. United States Constitution Rangers may initiate investigations and take other action necessary to prevent violations of the law by public servants and administrative government agencies or their agents. All elected public servants take sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution, which is the Supreme law of the land. Whenever a conflict arises between the enforcement of rules, regulations, ordinances, and public policies administered by government agencies verses the Constitutional rights of We The People our Constitutional rights always take precedence.

The United States Constitution Rangers is looking to expand its presence and effectiveness in your area. We seek honest men and women of good character with a strong desire to help restore Constitutional government and prevent the further deterioration of government by and for the people. If you have at least two years military or law enforcement experience you may be eligible to fill key leadership positions. In addition to peace officers and investigators the Rangers need and desire to fill its ranks with men and women knowledgeable in teaching, in business administration, in law, fund raising and a host of other skills needed to accomplish the goals and objectives of the Rangers. If you believe your participation in this organization could help advance its goals please contact us for an interview.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: AntonLee on September 23, 2008, 11:02:30 PM
oh dear god
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 11:05:03 PM
oh dear god

Exactly.


Weekend! Duhduhduhduh duh!! Weekend WARRIORS!!! Duh duh dududuhhh duh duh!

[youtube=425,350]Xf6AkA_HHpI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 23, 2008, 11:19:27 PM
Oh, wow.  :shock:
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 11:29:18 PM
As much as I might agree we can do anything we want privately, I'd rather have the option of surviving without taking the hit for everyone elses idiocy.  

Damned straight.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: AntonLee on September 23, 2008, 11:36:53 PM
so what can you do?  Can you make it perfectly clear that if you were to be arrested. . . if you believe in _____ or _____  or _____   and if you have opinions on _____ or  ____  please either don't come to support me, support me and keep your differing (and worrysome) opinions to yourself, or support me from home?

it'd be difficult to do. . .but if you have real friends there they won't do the crazy shit that they KNOW you don't want or won't help you.  If I get arrested, and 10 people show up with guns. . . my friends aren't going to be shooting the cops/balifs/judges/prosecutors. . . . they'll be the ones that hold signs and rally other people to my cause as my wishes may be.  I can't stop random people from showing up, but I can put the word out about what should NOT happen if I were to get arrested.

what else can one do?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 11:38:51 PM
what else can one do?

Nothing. Just accept that some people are gonna make a guilt by association connection. That's just the price you end up paying.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 23, 2008, 11:39:46 PM
He'd just be helping you out. He just says what everyone else is thinking, but won't say.  :lol:
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 11:40:21 PM
He'd just be helping you out. He just says what everyone else is thinking, but won't say.  :lol:

Uh huh. *Shudder*
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: AntonLee on September 23, 2008, 11:40:58 PM
no doubt. . . um. . . if I ever get arrested in NH

article 10:  please support me on this bbs.  It'll be your place to support me!  Don't even bother coming down there'll be plenty of people.   I need you here to spread the word of my capture and imprisonment.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 23, 2008, 11:41:41 PM
He seems to be a Constitution Ranger of the Continental Congress of 1777.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 23, 2008, 11:47:20 PM
Granted, I watched maybe a minute of the video with the sound off, but he didn't seem much creepier than a lot of other people I meet on a daily basis.  Then again, I meet every Goddamn weirdo that comes through Sarasota. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 23, 2008, 11:48:47 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Spacerangerdcu0.jpg)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 24, 2008, 07:42:47 AM
Jackhole has and probably still is being investigated for threats?  I most certainly do not want to be around any people like this.  Fuck NH.

thankfully there's no one like this in any other state in the United States.  NH is the only place in the world that has people who make threats!

Thank God I'm here in PA, where I only have to worry about being pulled over on suspicion of owning a firearm because of a bumper sticker and fined for not having my seat belt buckled by a state cop belonging to one of the most corrupt forces in the US who have been known to smash peoples' tail lights and then cite them for having broken tail lights. Oh, and being fined for smoking in a nebulously-defined "business" in several counties. Oh, and not even being able to raise rabbits or grow corn in my yard because PA has agricultural zoning. Oh, and watching my neighbors' kids get arrested for truancy because they had to take care of their bedridden mother.

Yeah, no threats here.



yeah, that & you people have raging fires going on for hundreds of years UNDERGROUND.....coal fires n shit
we got granite.....n radon gas
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 24, 2008, 07:49:47 AM
constitution ranger?

You asked for it.

http://uscccrangers.com/

There is much funny on that site.

They're basically a piss ant militia with a big mouth and delusions of grandeur.

Quote
The United States Constitution Rangers is an organization of dedicated Officers of Honor charged with the responsibility of policing the offices of public trust. Rangers pledge to defend our republican form of government provided by the Constitution of the united States of America and to protect the rights of the people as enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

The United States Constitution Rangers will reawaken the sprit of liberty by educating the people, investigating issues and intervention when necessary.

When called upon by citizens or other public servants United States Constitution Ranges will aid in the defense of their rights. United States Constitution Rangers may initiate investigations and take other action necessary to prevent violations of the law by public servants and administrative government agencies or their agents. All elected public servants take sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution, which is the Supreme law of the land. Whenever a conflict arises between the enforcement of rules, regulations, ordinances, and public policies administered by government agencies verses the Constitutional rights of We The People our Constitutional rights always take precedence.

The United States Constitution Rangers is looking to expand its presence and effectiveness in your area. We seek honest men and women of good character with a strong desire to help restore Constitutional government and prevent the further deterioration of government by and for the people. If you have at least two years military or law enforcement experience you may be eligible to fill key leadership positions. In addition to peace officers and investigators the Rangers need and desire to fill its ranks with men and women knowledgeable in teaching, in business administration, in law, fund raising and a host of other skills needed to accomplish the goals and objectives of the Rangers. If you believe your participation in this organization could help advance its goals please contact us for an interview.


apparently, they all hafta wear those granny reading glasses too....
what a dumbass thing to put on your home page
they should have a pic of a colt peacemaker, next to the badge
faggots
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 24, 2008, 08:05:20 AM
i think this rob dude would be invaluable in an end-of-world, societal breakdown, fending off looters/jackboots & thugs, oh my.....and zombies (a nod to shinyvandal)but when the dust has settled, & you're nestled in the underground bunker one night, & you've bent over the coffee pot burbling on the sterno-stove, or reached for a can of cling peaches in syrup, BAP-BAP!!!! rob delivers 2 to the back of your head.
your bunker is now HIS bunker...he doesn't need you anymore... he earned your bunker....and your cling peaches in syrup, and your chef boy-ar-dee ravioli (a nod to shaw)
& rob doesn't own a car/house/land/bunker....so am i stretching it here?

"own"...

"own a car/house/land/bunker"...

does anyone really own anything with the mobocracy looter minions...
don't they just figure out a "way" to take what they want...no matter what...or who...gets in the way...

did I contract to purchase or take possession of the "bunker"...

your scenario may very well hold true for the looters...but most certainly not for me...and many others as well...

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 24, 2008, 08:55:15 AM
constitution ranger?

You asked for it.

http://uscccrangers.com/

There is much funny on that site.

They're basically a piss ant militia with a big mouth and delusions of grandeur.

Quote
The United States Constitution Rangers is an organization of dedicated Officers of Honor charged with the responsibility of policing the offices of public trust. Rangers pledge to defend our republican form of government provided by the Constitution of the united States of America and to protect the rights of the people as enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

The United States Constitution Rangers will reawaken the sprit of liberty by educating the people, investigating issues and intervention when necessary.

When called upon by citizens or other public servants United States Constitution Ranges will aid in the defense of their rights. United States Constitution Rangers may initiate investigations and take other action necessary to prevent violations of the law by public servants and administrative government agencies or their agents. All elected public servants take sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution, which is the Supreme law of the land. Whenever a conflict arises between the enforcement of rules, regulations, ordinances, and public policies administered by government agencies verses the Constitutional rights of We The People our Constitutional rights always take precedence.

The United States Constitution Rangers is looking to expand its presence and effectiveness in your area. We seek honest men and women of good character with a strong desire to help restore Constitutional government and prevent the further deterioration of government by and for the people. If you have at least two years military or law enforcement experience you may be eligible to fill key leadership positions. In addition to peace officers and investigators the Rangers need and desire to fill its ranks with men and women knowledgeable in teaching, in business administration, in law, fund raising and a host of other skills needed to accomplish the goals and objectives of the Rangers. If you believe your participation in this organization could help advance its goals please contact us for an interview.


apparently, they all hafta wear those granny reading glasses too....
what a dumbass thing to put on your home page
they should have a pic of a colt peacemaker, next to the badge
faggots

actually that website has been taken over by the feds who maintain it to lure those who don't know it's been compromised...

same goes for other websites as well...

some visiting this forum are feds...

some posting here are feds also...

others are eleven yr olds...

and still others are 81 yr olds...


much the same as the statement "if voting accomplished anything tangible to liberty, it would be outlawed"...

the interwebs should be viewed similarly in the fact that all traffic and websites are "sampled" and vast amounts of research are conducted to determine who's doors to kick in first after the SHTF...where the safe houses are...where the new "underground railway" is...etc, etc.

same with the Ron Paul campaign...it's great that we're getting the message out there but you can see what our "traction" has "gotten us"...what with the "suddenness" of the "failings" "collapses" "bailouts" and the other crap...

for anyone who understands that the books have been "cooked" for hundreds of years...they know and understand full well that the money-masters can, will, and do fabricate and orchestrate and conduct "economic and social events" to maintain their grip and control of the mobocracy looter minions...

as they have seen a significant deterioration of their "matrix" "illusion" and "curtain" they have decided to "create" some really hard times both here and across the globe...

back to the Ron Paul campaign and how it helps the goons...the FEC list of contributors is put into the cross-referencing database...all the credit card contributions to any and all websites supporting Ron Paul lead them to more dissidents to put in the cross-referencing database...and so on and so forth...

while the internet allows us to spread the Freedom and Liberty Message...it also allows the mobocracy looter minions and the money-masters to know who the dissidents are...who to "take out" first...and when to do it...

they know just how much they can "get away with"...without collapsing the world they have created and that they maintain...much the same as Oz, the Wizard, and the man behind the curtain...or use scenes from "1984" "Brazil" "Matrix"...whatever...

it's scary to see that you're part of the Borg...
it's even more scary to leave the Borg...

so most stay and continue to live in fear...and continue to feed the very hand that binds them...

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: JWI on September 24, 2008, 10:05:25 AM
Jackhole has and probably still is being investigated for threats?  I most certainly do not want to be around any people like this.  Fuck NH.

thankfully there's no one like this in any other state in the United States.  NH is the only place in the world that has people who make threats!

Yes but I wouldn't be linked to those people as easily as I would to morons in the FSP like this.  Even if the claim is that it isn't centralized, the FSP still puts people under one banner.  From the normal "I just want to be free" to the batshit insane "kill the looters".  No thanks, I don't wish to spend time answering questions about someone just because we share a link to the FSP.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 24, 2008, 10:09:44 AM
Yes but I wouldn't be linked to those people as easily as I would to morons in the FSP like this.  Even if the claim is that it isn't centralized, the FSP still puts people under one banner.  From the normal "I just want to be free" to the batshit insane "kill the looters".  No thanks, I don't wish to spend time answering questions about someone just because we share a link to the FSP.

It's definitely a Can O' Worms to be associated with the FSP.

It's the same reason why the LP turns me off now. (Apart from selling out, of course.) Too many people turning themselves blue with food supplements and blaming the Jews for wild ass shit.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: JWI on September 24, 2008, 10:13:47 AM
It's definitely a Can O' Worms to be associated with the FSP.

It's the same reason why the LP turns me off now. (Apart from selling out, of course.) Too many people turning themselves blue with food supplements and blaming the Jews for wild ass shit.

Yup.  That's why I'm thinking your idea of just staying put and making the best of a bad situation is a good decision.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on September 24, 2008, 10:44:16 AM
It's definitely a Can O' Worms to be associated with the FSP.

It's the same reason why the LP turns me off now. (Apart from selling out, of course.) Too many people turning themselves blue with food supplements and blaming the Jews for wild ass shit.

Well, they DID carry out 9/11 from their home base in New York...
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 24, 2008, 10:51:49 AM
Well, they DID carry out 9/11 from their home base in New York...

(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7097/omgxk2.gif)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 24, 2008, 11:19:18 AM
It's definitely a Can O' Worms to be associated with the FSP.

It's the same reason why the LP turns me off now. (Apart from selling out, of course.) Too many people turning themselves blue with food supplements and blaming the Jews for wild ass shit.

Well, they DID carry out 9/11 from their home base in New York...




those pesky kikes
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Taors on September 24, 2008, 12:47:03 PM
Rob, I'll scrap with you any day any time when I get up to New Hampshire. My right fist wants to make contact with your jaw so bad.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 24, 2008, 03:27:31 PM
The name "Roberts Jacobs" appears in an affidavit...he is one of the few people named...as if they know who he is.

http://www.cheatingfrenzy.com/wolffe1a.pdf

paragraph 26,  page 8

Quote
On July 14, 2007, Robert Wolffe was observed at the
Brown's property providing armed security during a fund raising
concert to benefit the Browns . During that event, Robert Wolffe
and Roberts Jacobs confronted and photographed USMS personnel
and vehicles . A photo of USMS personnel which appears to have
been taken at that time was later posted on the internet .
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 24, 2008, 05:16:42 PM
Rob, I'll scrap with you any day any time when I get up to New Hampshire. My right fist wants to make contact with your jaw so bad.

where'd double OH seven come from...

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Taors on September 24, 2008, 10:08:27 PM
Rob, I'll scrap with you any day any time when I get up to New Hampshire. My right fist wants to make contact with your jaw so bad.

where'd double OH seven come from...


You might want to wear an outfit that you can wash easily. I don't want to have to bloody your nice denim wear unless I can help it...bitch.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 25, 2008, 09:25:50 AM
Rob, I'll scrap with you any day any time when I get up to New Hampshire. My right fist wants to make contact with your jaw so bad.

where'd double OH seven come from...


You might want to wear an outfit that you can wash easily. I don't want to have to bloody your nice denim wear unless I can help it...bitch.

interestingly enough, you might want to inquire with others as to the results of such aggression/force/fraud...

when one is the victim of aggression/force/fraud one does one's best to repel, destroy, and eliminate the perpetrators...

whomever they might be...

RAD

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 25, 2008, 10:45:49 AM
Rob, I'll scrap with you any day any time when I get up to New Hampshire. My right fist wants to make contact with your jaw so bad.

where'd double OH seven come from...


You might want to wear an outfit that you can wash easily. I don't want to have to bloody your nice denim wear unless I can help it...bitch.

interestingly enough, you might want to inquire with others as to the results of such aggression/force/fraud...

when one is the victim of aggression/force/fraud one does one's best to repel, destroy, and eliminate the perpetrators...

whomever they might be...

RAD

Enjoy!





fucking barack
you just had to goad him, didn't you?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 10:52:01 AM
I know Rob "IRL"...not super well, but well enough to know that he is not a complete lunatic and that he is not a dangerous guy. (Hi Rob!) Now I will speak of you as if you are not here, since that seems to be what we are doing.

Rob actually is one of the most misunderstood people I have met in my life due to the following:

1. He is insanely stubborn. (Rob, you know this, so cool it)

2. I think he suffers a similar thought disorder to the one that I was once diagnosed as struggling with. It is not a super big deal, but it can hinder communication. If you notice his speech patterns indicate that he is rarely actually focused on the thought he is expressing...thoughts move quickly, sometimes in a circular fashion. He just has an active mind, he is thinking a lot of things, all at once. I think, he often has many thoughts in his head at one time and is trying to express them all at once...the result is incredibly disjointed, redundant, speechy/preechy looooooong winded communications. (Rob, I'm allowed to say those things because I have the EXACT same problem!) It has taken me a long time to get to a point where I can focus on one thought and express it well. This continues to be hard for me when I am excited or angered, etc....I have to remember to settle myself down and slow my thoughts.

3. His style of writing is not suited for the interwebs...seriously. Rob comes off as being a pretty weird guy on the internet...but really, he is just writing in the exact way that he speaks...and it just doesn't come off well.

He really is not a "nut job"...or at least, not any more a nutjob than most of us. I mean, we all have our quirks, obsessions, etc. Rob feels really really strongly about the Principles of Non Agression...and when he goes off in describing what it means he can tend to go on and on (Rob, in all fairness I HAVE told you that!) and if you don't keep up closely with the conversation you can kind of lose some of it and sort of "come to" right in the middle of the part where he describes his feelings about using force and it can make him sound like a violent guy...but really, REALLY, the point of it is that he does not believe that anyone has the right to use force against anyone else, unprevoked. It's just that his definitions of "force" and "prevokation" are sometimes a little more intense.

I haven't seen Rob in like....an eternity, so it's possible that he's been on some sort of downward spiral and is completely insane now...but I feel like I would have heard about that at some point, from somebody! So, I'm going to go with what he has been since I've known him: Misunderstood, heavily judged and really completely innocent of most judgements laid against him.

Oh, and the reason he seems to be a COMPLETE lunatic when engaged in a fight on the internet, is because he is really crappy at "off the cuff" communications in intense situations. (Rob, whether you feel this or not...it is what I have observed.) He enjoys choosing his words wisely, he can sometimes misspeak or talk in circles when he doesn't have time to mull things over.

Plus, did I mention he is ridiculously stubborn? :)

BTW, Hello John Shaw. I haven't been here in like...a year, good to see you around!
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 25, 2008, 10:54:49 AM
Several interesting points and a howdy.

Sup yo.

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 11:01:53 AM
Several interesting points and a howdy.

Sup yo.



Not much. Learning how to be a Momma. Swinging between obscene joy at this wonderous little creature who has become the light of our unvirse...and sheer self-hatred for having selfishly brought her into this hurting, crazy world. I've never felt so guilty in my life. I watch the news with a new horror...I project every story ten, fifteen, twenty years into the future and think "what have I done, why have I created this perfect little girl and brought her into this supremely fucked up world!!" Like, damn, we're going to hell in a handbasket, might as well bring a baby. :(

But look at me gettin' all Oprah on you. Things are good. I take it the world of John Shaw is also functioning well?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 25, 2008, 11:37:30 AM
Not much. Learning how to be a Momma. Swinging between obscene joy at this wonderous little creature who has become the light of our unvirse...and sheer self-hatred for having selfishly brought her into this hurting, crazy world. I've never felt so guilty in my life. I watch the news with a new horror...I project every story ten, fifteen, twenty years into the future and think "what have I done, why have I created this perfect little girl and brought her into this supremely fucked up world!!" Like, damn, we're going to hell in a handbasket, might as well bring a baby. :(

Well, just keep in mind if you haven't already - Move out of the city = More free. They can't get you everywhere yet, and it's a big world. Find a place with few people.

But look at me gettin' all Oprah on you. Things are good. I take it the world of John Shaw is also functioning well?

We're making a new house offer out in BFE again today, so pretty good, by all accounts. Maybe this one will work out. (We've had troubles on this path.) It'll be nice to have no mortgage, live in a low population area, and low taxes.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 12:45:56 PM
Not much. Learning how to be a Momma. Swinging between obscene joy at this wonderous little creature who has become the light of our unvirse...and sheer self-hatred for having selfishly brought her into this hurting, crazy world. I've never felt so guilty in my life. I watch the news with a new horror...I project every story ten, fifteen, twenty years into the future and think "what have I done, why have I created this perfect little girl and brought her into this supremely fucked up world!!" Like, damn, we're going to hell in a handbasket, might as well bring a baby. :(

Well, just keep in mind if you haven't already - Move out of the city = More free. They can't get you everywhere yet, and it's a big world. Find a place with few people.

But look at me gettin' all Oprah on you. Things are good. I take it the world of John Shaw is also functioning well?

We're making a new house offer out in BFE again today, so pretty good, by all accounts. Maybe this one will work out. (We've had troubles on this path.) It'll be nice to have no mortgage, live in a low population area, and low taxes.

I really hope that works out for you guys....the low population thing sounds fantastic and no mortgage is key.  Yeah....we really want to move out of Manchester. We actually had the chance to move to Switzerland last year, before the baby came. It's this gorgeous farm, tucked tucked tucked away from the world, it's honestly the most beautiful place I've ever seen. It's owned by good friends of the family, an older couple with no children who are giving my little brother the farm...Johann will only give it to him after he has a wife and a baby...if you saw my brothers collection of shoes and ascots, you might tell Johan not to hold his breath. At any rate, we didn't go because is would have ment giving up many of our posessions, etc...you know, uprooting our whole life and all of that. I was all for it....the husband wanted to stay here where we can create a more stable life for the wee one. Now we are both wishing we had gone. We still could, but it would be a bigger pain in that ass now. I guess we'd rather go some place that has already fallen to socialism than stay here and see where the chips fall. Who knows where the best place in the world is...? But yeah, step number one is get the heck out of ManchVegas.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Taors on September 25, 2008, 12:50:04 PM
Rob, I'll scrap with you any day any time when I get up to New Hampshire. My right fist wants to make contact with your jaw so bad.

where'd double OH seven come from...


You might want to wear an outfit that you can wash easily. I don't want to have to bloody your nice denim wear unless I can help it...bitch.

interestingly enough, you might want to inquire with others as to the results of such aggression/force/fraud...

when one is the victim of aggression/force/fraud one does one's best to repel, destroy, and eliminate the perpetrators...

whomever they might be...

RAD

Enjoy!





fucking barack
you just had to goad him, didn't you?

Yep...and now I know he won't fight like a man, so what's the point? He's the kind of nigger that would pull a gun out in a fist fight.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 25, 2008, 01:06:16 PM
Yep...and now I know he won't fight like a man, so what's the point? He's the kind of nigger that would pull a gun out in a fist fight.
Fight with tools.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 01:23:15 PM
Rob, I'll scrap with you any day any time when I get up to New Hampshire. My right fist wants to make contact with your jaw so bad.

where'd double OH seven come from...


You might want to wear an outfit that you can wash easily. I don't want to have to bloody your nice denim wear unless I can help it...bitch.

interestingly enough, you might want to inquire with others as to the results of such aggression/force/fraud...

when one is the victim of aggression/force/fraud one does one's best to repel, destroy, and eliminate the perpetrators...

whomever they might be...

RAD

Enjoy!





fucking barack
you just had to goad him, didn't you?

Yep...and now I know he won't fight like a man, so what's the point? He's the kind of nigger that would pull a gun out in a fist fight.

Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 01:47:37 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

Fuck that shit, nigger.

As a person who has actually been called a "nigger" before...you know, in real life, to my face...I would really like to know why you guys are spewing this word around like this! It really is a bit alarming.

I mean....you either are using the word because you like it for it's original meaning...which would make you racist, which would make you a shit head...or you are one of these "I can use the word because to me it means something other than it's original meaning" - which is stupid. Because the word DOES mean something. It is a derogatory word meant to degrade and humiliate.

But maybe I'll try things your way. From now on, I think that the word 'mango' should mean mindless, poison spewing, shitbag attention whore.

Why, Squish, fancy meeting you here...when's the last time I told you you are the fucking king mango?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 25, 2008, 02:47:20 PM
I don't use that word, but I will say this: There aren't really a lot of real racists around here, having said that, there are a lot of people who like to throw that word around.

It's sort of an inside joke having to do with the Terms of Service for this BBS, and the lack of enforcement therein.

Of course, the problem comes up when black people come to visit and are horrified, under the false impression that people around here approve of racist shit.

I won't apologize, because I didn't say it, but I can tell you that I won't be throwing around words like that.

I did, however, make a joke the other day about a Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavor made from Brittany Spears breast milk. I called it "Spear Chunker", but it was a play on "Spears" and chocolate chunks. So for that I'll take the spanking.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: trollfreezone on September 25, 2008, 02:49:52 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

Fuck that shit, nigger.

As a person who has actually been called a "nigger" before...you know, in real life, to my face...I would really like to know why you guys are spewing this word around like this! It really is a bit alarming.

It bugs the crap out of me to see people spew that stuff--a white boy who grew up in a very "multicultural" environment (my first best friend was black, half my teen friends were latino, I dated mostly latina and asian women, and my wife is asian) yet normally hates "political correctness."  It's just plain rude and deliberately offensive of people to do that.  That said, I agree with the famous Lenny Bruce skit, but we're obviously not there yet.

I've tried to make it clear that using "fighting words" associated with ethnicity is unacceptable, but the response itself seems to be what they're after.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: trollfreezone on September 25, 2008, 02:54:18 PM
It's sort of an inside joke having to do with the Terms of Service for this BBS, and the lack of enforcement therein.

This, and they enjoy getting under peoples' skin.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: orion on September 25, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

It's the Internet. Get over it. This is not real life.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 04:28:51 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

Fuck that shit, nigger.

As a person who has actually been called a "nigger" before...you know, in real life, to my face...I would really like to know why you guys are spewing this word around like this! It really is a bit alarming.

I mean....you either are using the word because you like it for it's original meaning...which would make you racist, which would make you a shit head...or you are one of these "I can use the word because to me it means something other than it's original meaning" - which is stupid. Because the word DOES mean something. It is a derogatory word meant to degrade and humiliate.

But maybe I'll try things your way. From now on, I think that the word 'mango' should mean mindless, poison spewing, shitbag attention whore.

Why, Squish, fancy meeting you here...when's the last time I told you you are the fucking king mango?

No, I'm a person who understands that language is a fluent entity that only carries connotations that people ascribe to it. I curse a lot, and not because my vocabulary is poor or any qualifier for my lexical ability for that matter, I curse to desensitise people to it. Why? Because the idea that people should be offended by a fucking word pisses me off.

So, yeah, I say "nigger." My best mate's half cast, I say it to him, he laughs. I'm not kidding. It's. A. Fucking. Word. You chose to be offended by it, every time you pussyfoot about that word or are offended by it, you give it power. Why would you want to give something you hate so much power?

If the word no longer carries the connotations you ascribe to it, then it's no longer a weapon of hate; no longer a thing to be concerned of. It'll either be used casually, which will no longer matter, or will fade into obscurity as it's powerless.

So, here's my challenge to you; next time you see that word, or any word that offends you: Laugh. Please.

You know....I enjoy language. I love writing, I love speaking...I love conversation. I sometimes speak well and sometimes have a mouth that sounds like a cross between a sailor and a hooker in jail. There is no word that I hate...not even the word in question, really...but a few that I choose not to use. I'll tell you why.

In this era of "PCness" language and etiquette have been so damaged. What was once witty wordsmithing, is now offensive. What once was uncouth is now hilarious because it is so inappropriate. So, I see you describe your usage of an utterly useless word as a backlash against the "PC" era...an attempt at desensitizing the people around you to such a word. My question for you....why do you need to hear the word so badly? I mean, your goal in saying it is take the sting out of it, to make it a word like any other....and this is the problem with this stupid, stupid generation. Why can't we have a bad word that shouldn't be said? Why can't we respect the history of a word? It is not to give it power, to never say it. It is to respect it's own heritage.

Whatever. It;s not that I hate the word. I'm a half black woman who looks ambiguously ethnic at best. I was raised in very diverse places, but still in middle class white neighborhoods. I don't have a long history of being ground down or picked on for my heritage and I won't pretend that I know very much about the black culture in our country....but when some kids in my neighborhood found out that my dad (who is a practical stranger to me) is black, and spit on me for it and called me "nigger girl" all the way to elementary school every day until I finally told my mother and she made me change schools...well, it really hurt me. It wasn't about the word. It was about people who used it to try to make me feel small. To try and make me feel less than. Trying to make me seem less relevant.

No black person here was ever a slave. No white person here ever enslaved anyone. I don't think we owe it to anyone living to not say that word....I think we owe it to the past. We owe it to people who did legitimately fucking struggle, to put the damn thing to rest. There is no purpose for the rehabilitation of such a word. <-- This is my real point. It's not like the word Fuck, which can be used in most any way imaginable. It isn't the word Slut, Cunt, Bastard...all of these words can be used in many different contexts and can be very funny. But Nigger?

Nigger means boy, gal, animal on two legs. It means MY Property. It means, you eat what I throw out the back door, scraps from my table. It means, you may not vote, I will rape you and you will give birth to my children and you don't have a say. It means, you are light skinned, so you can work in my house. It means, You are dark skinned and ugly to me and must work outside. It means, I have ultimate power over you and I will take you wherever I please, I will ensure that your people are kept in cages. It means, you can die and no one will care. It is a reminder of a burden that an entire race of people had to carry for the simple fact that they were of different color. It means Don't forget your place. It just sucks.

So whatever. Say what you will. Throw out any trash you wish to. But the truth of the matter is, in your effort to toss the "PC" coin out the window...you find yourself on the other side of it. PC is stupid. Throwing out inflammatory words because it makes you mad that people find them inflammatory, is even more stupid.

Have a little respect for the dead, for people who really did hate that word for a very real reason and who really didn't have the option of making it a word not spoken. I'm not asking you to bend to my sensibilities, I'm asking you to use your brain and class it up a bit.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 04:30:00 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

It's the Internet. Get over it. This is not real life.

Anonymity is no excuse and, while I love the interwebs, I am most certain that it will be the end of us.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 04:36:22 PM
I don't use that word, but I will say this: There aren't really a lot of real racists around here, having said that, there are a lot of people who like to throw that word around.

It's sort of an inside joke having to do with the Terms of Service for this BBS, and the lack of enforcement therein.

Of course, the problem comes up when black people come to visit and are horrified, under the false impression that people around here approve of racist shit.

I won't apologize, because I didn't say it, but I can tell you that I won't be throwing around words like that.

I did, however, make a joke the other day about a Ben and Jerry's ice cream flavor made from Brittany Spears breast milk. I called it "Spear Chunker", but it was a play on "Spears" and chocolate chunks. So for that I'll take the spanking.

Hehee...Spear Chunker....LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!!!  :shock:

Now that you mention it...I recall Toars leaving and going to some other board with that guy who really is a racist and they just said whatever they wanted, right? Or posted lots of porn or something? Didn't someone get reprimanded for saying something that wasn't really racist or something? I just remember Toars throwing a fit over it.

Oh well. It's unfortunate that people have to be douches. BTW, breastmilk is fucking delicious and would probably make excellent ice cream. Hhhmmmm, how many lactating women would it take to make a gallon of ice cream....? Well, in any case, it would employ many peoples in our Great Homeland America and anything that gives jobs to Mericans is something I can get behind.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 25, 2008, 04:43:23 PM
:roll:
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: RattyDog on September 25, 2008, 04:52:06 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

Fuck that shit, nigger.

As a person who has actually been called a "nigger" before...you know, in real life, to my face...I would really like to know why you guys are spewing this word around like this! It really is a bit alarming.

It bugs the crap out of me to see people spew that stuff--a white boy who grew up in a very "multicultural" environment (my first best friend was black, half my teen friends were latino, I dated mostly latina and asian women, and my wife is asian) yet normally hates "political correctness."  It's just plain rude and deliberately offensive of people to do that.  That said, I agree with the famous Lenny Bruce skit, but we're obviously not there yet.

I've tried to make it clear that using "fighting words" associated with ethnicity is unacceptable, but the response itself seems to be what they're after.

Yeah....they want the attention. And now I gave it to them, so now I'm the stupid bitch who played into it when I could have just walked on.

Ugh.

It is in this moment I am remembering why, almost a year ago, I thought it a waste of my time to come here and left. How sad. I like so many people here and this would be such a rad forum were it not for the grouchy, rude teenagers. And so, I guess...whatever. I can find the door.

See you later john Shaw, Kennth and other funny interesting people. To the rest.....have fun changing the world with your awesome attitudes. :)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 25, 2008, 04:55:48 PM
I can find the door.

:-(

Dammitall.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 25, 2008, 06:36:23 PM
rattydog.
who turned the switch on? oof
btw, the word we use is nigga, or the plural, niggiz, niggas....you know, the way the bruthas use it.
so it's cool.
the southern white boys pronounce the 'er'.
lesson over.
mango?
that the best you got?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Taors on September 25, 2008, 06:45:29 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

Fuck that shit, nigger.

As a person who has actually been called a "nigger" before...you know, in real life, to my face...I would really like to know why you guys are spewing this word around like this! It really is a bit alarming.

It bugs the crap out of me to see people spew that stuff--a white boy who grew up in a very "multicultural" environment (my first best friend was black, half my teen friends were latino, I dated mostly latina and asian women, and my wife is asian) yet normally hates "political correctness."  It's just plain rude and deliberately offensive of people to do that.  That said, I agree with the famous Lenny Bruce skit, but we're obviously not there yet.

I've tried to make it clear that using "fighting words" associated with ethnicity is unacceptable, but the response itself seems to be what they're after.

Yeah....they want the attention. And now I gave it to them, so now I'm the stupid bitch who played into it when I could have just walked on.

Ugh.

It is in this moment I am remembering why, almost a year ago, I thought it a waste of my time to come here and left. How sad. I like so many people here and this would be such a rad forum were it not for the grouchy, rude teenagers. And so, I guess...whatever. I can find the door.

See you later john Shaw, Kennth and other funny interesting people. To the rest.....have fun changing the world with your awesome attitudes. :)

Too bad, so sad.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 25, 2008, 07:11:32 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

Fuck that shit, nigger.

As a person who has actually been called a "nigger" before...you know, in real life, to my face...I would really like to know why you guys are spewing this word around like this! It really is a bit alarming.

It bugs the crap out of me to see people spew that stuff--a white boy who grew up in a very "multicultural" environment (my first best friend was black, half my teen friends were latino, I dated mostly latina and asian women, and my wife is asian) yet normally hates "political correctness."  It's just plain rude and deliberately offensive of people to do that.  That said, I agree with the famous Lenny Bruce skit, but we're obviously not there yet.

I've tried to make it clear that using "fighting words" associated with ethnicity is unacceptable, but the response itself seems to be what they're after.

Yeah....they want the attention. And now I gave it to them, so now I'm the stupid bitch who played into it when I could have just walked on.

Ugh.

It is in this moment I am remembering why, almost a year ago, I thought it a waste of my time to come here and left. How sad. I like so many people here and this would be such a rad forum were it not for the grouchy, rude teenagers. And so, I guess...whatever. I can find the door.

See you later john Shaw, Kennth and other funny interesting people. To the rest.....have fun changing the world with your awesome attitudes. :)



piss on her
she wants to give jobs to mexicans
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 25, 2008, 08:08:01 PM
I know Rob "IRL"...not super well, but well enough to know that he is not a complete lunatic and that he is not a dangerous guy. (Hi Rob!) Now I will speak of you as if you are not here, since that seems to be what we are doing.

Rob actually is one of the most misunderstood people I have met in my life due to the following:

1. He is insanely stubborn. (Rob, you know this, so cool it)

2. I think he suffers a similar thought disorder to the one that I was once diagnosed as struggling with. It is not a super big deal, but it can hinder communication. If you notice his speech patterns indicate that he is rarely actually focused on the thought he is expressing...thoughts move quickly, sometimes in a circular fashion. He just has an active mind, he is thinking a lot of things, all at once. I think, he often has many thoughts in his head at one time and is trying to express them all at once...the result is incredibly disjointed, redundant, speechy/preechy looooooong winded communications. (Rob, I'm allowed to say those things because I have the EXACT same problem!) It has taken me a long time to get to a point where I can focus on one thought and express it well. This continues to be hard for me when I am excited or angered, etc....I have to remember to settle myself down and slow my thoughts.

3. His style of writing is not suited for the interwebs...seriously. Rob comes off as being a pretty weird guy on the internet...but really, he is just writing in the exact way that he speaks...and it just doesn't come off well.

He really is not a "nut job"...or at least, not any more a nutjob than most of us. I mean, we all have our quirks, obsessions, etc. Rob feels really really strongly about the Principles of Non Agression...and when he goes off in describing what it means he can tend to go on and on (Rob, in all fairness I HAVE told you that!) and if you don't keep up closely with the conversation you can kind of lose some of it and sort of "come to" right in the middle of the part where he describes his feelings about using force and it can make him sound like a violent guy...but really, REALLY, the point of it is that he does not believe that anyone has the right to use force against anyone else, unprevoked. It's just that his definitions of "force" and "prevokation" are sometimes a little more intense.

I haven't seen Rob in like....an eternity, so it's possible that he's been on some sort of downward spiral and is completely insane now...but I feel like I would have heard about that at some point, from somebody! So, I'm going to go with what he has been since I've known him: Misunderstood, heavily judged and really completely innocent of most judgements laid against him.

Oh, and the reason he seems to be a COMPLETE lunatic when engaged in a fight on the internet, is because he is really crappy at "off the cuff" communications in intense situations. (Rob, whether you feel this or not...it is what I have observed.) He enjoys choosing his words wisely, he can sometimes misspeak or talk in circles when he doesn't have time to mull things over.

Plus, did I mention he is ridiculously stubborn? :)

BTW, Hello John Shaw. I haven't been here in like...a year, good to see you around!


I'm exactly the same as I was that day at the coffee shop...no better, no worse...

and yes, as a matter of fact, I'm still wishing it was that other world...

better to have loved and lost, than to never have loved at all...

no one will ever know me as well as you, definitely...

XO

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 25, 2008, 08:24:58 PM
Martha...

The gooks here are really gettin' on my nerves...

The bamboo cage isn't too bad this morning...

We got fed some leaves...

I'm making notches with my teeth of how many days I've been here...

I miss the musk of your panties...

The napalm fireworks here are really beautiful...

They remind me of your eyes...

I really hope you aren't fucking the milkman again...

Speaking of fucking...

I'm remembering the panties musk again...

Yours in captivity...

Major Jizz McClaniclan...
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 25, 2008, 08:29:49 PM
Martha...

The gooks here are really gettin' on my nerves...

The bamboo cage isn't too bad this morning...

We got fed some leaves...

I'm making notches with my teeth of how many days I've been here...

I miss the musk of your panties...

The napalm fireworks here are really beautiful...

They remind me of your eyes...

I really hope you aren't fucking the milkman again...

Speaking of fucking...

I'm remembering the panties musk again...

Yours in captivity...

Major Jizz McClaniclan...


ROTFLMAOTIPMP

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 25, 2008, 08:32:12 PM
ROTFLMAOTIPMP

 :)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 25, 2008, 08:35:16 PM
Toars....honekykins...what is with this throwing around of that most atrocious word? Do you think that because your avatar is black you can say it? Because really, no one should...it's just such a rude word!

Fuck that shit, nigger.

As a person who has actually been called a "nigger" before...you know, in real life, to my face...I would really like to know why you guys are spewing this word around like this! It really is a bit alarming.

I mean....you either are using the word because you like it for it's original meaning...which would make you racist, which would make you a shit head...or you are one of these "I can use the word because to me it means something other than it's original meaning" - which is stupid. Because the word DOES mean something. It is a derogatory word meant to degrade and humiliate.

But maybe I'll try things your way. From now on, I think that the word 'mango' should mean mindless, poison spewing, shitbag attention whore.

Why, Squish, fancy meeting you here...when's the last time I told you you are the fucking king mango?

No, I'm a person who understands that language is a fluent entity that only carries connotations that people ascribe to it. I curse a lot, and not because my vocabulary is poor or any qualifier for my lexical ability for that matter, I curse to desensitise people to it. Why? Because the idea that people should be offended by a fucking word pisses me off.

So, yeah, I say "nigger." My best mate's half cast, I say it to him, he laughs. I'm not kidding. It's. A. Fucking. Word. You chose to be offended by it, every time you pussyfoot about that word or are offended by it, you give it power. Why would you want to give something you hate so much power?

If the word no longer carries the connotations you ascribe to it, then it's no longer a weapon of hate; no longer a thing to be concerned of. It'll either be used casually, which will no longer matter, or will fade into obscurity as it's powerless.

So, here's my challenge to you; next time you see that word, or any word that offends you: Laugh. Please.

You know....I enjoy language. I love writing, I love speaking...I love conversation. I sometimes speak well and sometimes have a mouth that sounds like a cross between a sailor and a hooker in jail. There is no word that I hate...not even the word in question, really...but a few that I choose not to use. I'll tell you why.

In this era of "PCness" language and etiquette have been so damaged. What was once witty wordsmithing, is now offensive. What once was uncouth is now hilarious because it is so inappropriate. So, I see you describe your usage of an utterly useless word as a backlash against the "PC" era...an attempt at desensitizing the people around you to such a word. My question for you....why do you need to hear the word so badly? I mean, your goal in saying it is take the sting out of it, to make it a word like any other....and this is the problem with this stupid, stupid generation. Why can't we have a bad word that shouldn't be said? Why can't we respect the history of a word? It is not to give it power, to never say it. It is to respect it's own heritage.

Whatever. It;s not that I hate the word. I'm a half black woman who looks ambiguously ethnic at best. I was raised in very diverse places, but still in middle class white neighborhoods. I don't have a long history of being ground down or picked on for my heritage and I won't pretend that I know very much about the black culture in our country....but when some kids in my neighborhood found out that my dad (who is a practical stranger to me) is black, and spit on me for it and called me "nigger girl" all the way to elementary school every day until I finally told my mother and she made me change schools...well, it really hurt me. It wasn't about the word. It was about people who used it to try to make me feel small. To try and make me feel less than. Trying to make me seem less relevant.

No black person here was ever a slave. No white person here ever enslaved anyone. I don't think we owe it to anyone living to not say that word....I think we owe it to the past. We owe it to people who did legitimately fucking struggle, to put the damn thing to rest. There is no purpose for the rehabilitation of such a word. <-- This is my real point. It's not like the word Fuck, which can be used in most any way imaginable. It isn't the word Slut, Cunt, Bastard...all of these words can be used in many different contexts and can be very funny. But Nigger?

Nigger means boy, gal, animal on two legs. It means MY Property. It means, you eat what I throw out the back door, scraps from my table. It means, you may not vote, I will rape you and you will give birth to my children and you don't have a say. It means, you are light skinned, so you can work in my house. It means, You are dark skinned and ugly to me and must work outside. It means, I have ultimate power over you and I will take you wherever I please, I will ensure that your people are kept in cages. It means, you can die and no one will care. It is a reminder of a burden that an entire race of people had to carry for the simple fact that they were of different color. It means Don't forget your place. It just sucks.

So whatever. Say what you will. Throw out any trash you wish to. But the truth of the matter is, in your effort to toss the "PC" coin out the window...you find yourself on the other side of it. PC is stupid. Throwing out inflammatory words because it makes you mad that people find them inflammatory, is even more stupid.

Have a little respect for the dead, for people who really did hate that word for a very real reason and who really didn't have the option of making it a word not spoken. I'm not asking you to bend to my sensibilities, I'm asking you to use your brain and class it up a bit.






...and another thing;
why are americans constantly brought to task for slavery of africans
the u.s. imported just >>>>>>>>>>>>>5%<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< of the world-wide slave trade.
you want reparations?
bitch to brazil , the various west indies islands (dutch, english, french,netherlands) & europe
they imported the vast majority of africans (most traded by their village elders), but we never hear about these facts.
why?
cuz the race pimps know they won't get a feckin' dime from any of these other countries.
the u.s., in it's p.c., limp-wristed, 'progressive/enlightened'  fashion, falls all over itself to apologize (o.k.) & pay ridiculous reparations, enact affirmative action policies, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 25, 2008, 10:09:07 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 25, 2008, 10:12:15 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

Oh Lindsey, your mind is like a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 25, 2008, 10:13:26 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

Oh Lindsey, your mind is like a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Eat me. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 25, 2008, 10:14:58 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

Oh Lindsey, your mind is like a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Eat me. 

Shave it.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 25, 2008, 10:17:46 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

Oh Lindsey, your mind is like a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Eat me. 

Shave it.

I do.   :P
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 25, 2008, 10:31:27 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

Oh Lindsey, your mind is like a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Eat me. 

Shave it.

I do.   :P

I would too. It gets hot in Florida.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on September 25, 2008, 10:32:46 PM
Rob, who is the fat girl in your avatar pic?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 25, 2008, 10:33:34 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

You should go to community college. 

That's mean.   :(
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 25, 2008, 10:44:22 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

You should go to community college. 

That's mean.   :(

Yeah.  It was. 

What did I do to deserve that?   :cry:
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 26, 2008, 08:16:15 AM
You found it repugnant. 

People worked hard to score their credits. 

I think superfluous is a better word.  Also, it's not a solution to what I want.  And every jackoff from the high school I went to will be at the two locations within the county.  No thank you, I say. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 26, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
Rob, who is the fat girl in your avatar pic?

she is NOT fat...

very beautiful on the outside, but confused and currently very ugly on the inside...

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080912/FRONTPAGE/809120301

she doesn't have to be part of the mobocracy looter minions...

but currently she does consciously make that choice...

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 26, 2008, 09:36:38 AM
Rob, who is the fat girl in your avatar pic?

she is NOT fat...

very beautiful on the outside, but confused and currently very ugly on the inside...

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080912/FRONTPAGE/809120301

she doesn't have to be part of the mobocracy looter minions...

but currently she does consciously make that choice...







what does the article re: sherriff dept , have to do w/ sally fields
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 26, 2008, 09:37:54 AM
Rob, who is the fat girl in your avatar pic?



fool. it's obviously sally fields
you know.
the flying nun?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 26, 2008, 09:38:23 AM
Rob, who is the fat girl in your avatar pic?

she is NOT fat...

very beautiful on the outside, but confused and currently very ugly on the inside...

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080912/FRONTPAGE/809120301

she doesn't have to be part of the mobocracy looter minions...

but currently she does consciously make that choice...







what does the article re: sherriff dept , have to do w/ sally fields

I must have missed the reference to her in that recent article

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Taors on September 26, 2008, 12:15:31 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

You should go to community college. 

That's mean.   :(

Yeah.  It was. 

Why? It'd be a step up for her.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 26, 2008, 02:12:07 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

You should go to community college. 

That's mean.   :(

Yeah.  It was. 

Why? It'd be a step up for her.



aren't you the shit-talkin' jig
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 26, 2008, 02:14:23 PM
Rob, who is the fat girl in your avatar pic?

she is NOT fat...

very beautiful on the outside, but confused and currently very ugly on the inside...

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080912/FRONTPAGE/809120301

she doesn't have to be part of the mobocracy looter minions...

but currently she does consciously make that choice...







what does the article re: sherriff dept , have to do w/ sally fields

I must have missed the reference to her in that recent article






someone asked you who the chick was, and you posted, with a link to the sherriff article. i wondered what the connection was ,is all;


"she is NOT fat...

very beautiful on the outside, but confused and currently very ugly on the inside...

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080912/FRONTPAGE/809120301

she doesn't have to be part of the mobocracy looter minions...

but currently she does consciously make that choice..."
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 26, 2008, 03:14:06 PM
Its an ongoing theme.  Theres also a hint of irony that she's writing about the meaninglessness of a word, when another word evokes strong repercussions and emotion by association.  She would not be ashamed to be called a nigger if she were black, but would be ashamed to attend a credited learning institute. 

I personally don't care one way or another, it just amused me to draw the parallel and see the reaction. 

It didn't go unnoticed.  8)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 26, 2008, 03:17:43 PM
Guys, you know nothing about her, so you don't get to have an opinion.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 26, 2008, 03:18:31 PM
Guys, you know nothing about her, so you don't get to have an opinion.

Lol, Ok.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 26, 2008, 04:57:00 PM
Guys, you know nothing about her, so you don't get to have an opinion.



wussup boner, she your bitch now?

(no offense linds, but i bet you could do better)
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 26, 2008, 04:58:37 PM
wussup boner, she your bitch now?

(no offense linds, but i bet you could do better)

Please don't chime in unless you understand the subtext of the conversation.

He was being sarcastic. It was an inside joke.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 26, 2008, 05:12:54 PM
Hey did anyone else notice the sexual-fucking-tension in here?

I'm not being too subtle am I?

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 26, 2008, 05:18:04 PM
Hey did anyone else notice the sexual-fucking-tension in here?

I'm not being too subtle am I?

What are you talking about?

It's multi-layered irony.

Only if people know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 26, 2008, 05:20:50 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: John Shaw on September 26, 2008, 05:21:26 PM
No, it's still ironic. It's just I'm the only one amused by it, I guess.

My problem is that it seemed that you were implying that I was in some way unfaithful to my wife, and I wanted to see you say it explicitly, so I'd have a good reason to lay into you.

So I asked for clarification, which you've refused to give.

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 26, 2008, 07:17:29 PM
wussup boner, she your bitch now?

(no offense linds, but i bet you could do better)

Please don't chime in unless you understand the subtext of the conversation.

He was being sarcastic. It was an inside joke.



easy guy.
i'm playin fuckaround.
sorry i crashed your little party
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 26, 2008, 07:19:49 PM
maybe it's me.
or is js a little fucking cliquey here?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: blackie on September 26, 2008, 08:40:02 PM
Where isn't?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 26, 2008, 10:49:37 PM
I have to say that I believe words in and of themselves are harmless.  Words when spoken are only a series of sounds.  It is the person speaking them and the connotation he or she decides to assign to the series of sounds that makes it what it is.  And you as the listener (or reader, in this case) can choose to be offended or not offended by the word.  All of these words we use now, all around the world came from nothing.  There was a time when none of them existed, and there will be a time when the words we consider taboo now are no longer taboo, but commonly used words.

You should go to community college. 

That's mean.   :(

Yeah.  It was. 

Why? It'd be a step up for her.

Its an ongoing theme.  Theres also a hint of irony that she's writing about the meaninglessness of a word, when another word evokes strong repercussions and emotion by association.  She would not be ashamed to be called a nigger if she were black, but would be ashamed to attend a credited learning institute. 

I personally don't care one way or another, it just amused me to draw the parallel and see the reaction. 

I never, EVER said I would be ashamed.  I said it wasn't what I wanted.  I don't see why that has to be disrespected. 

It's an experience, really.  I want to be able to go to school and live on campus, and have that experience.  At least for now I get up and go to work and bust my ass every day.  It's been an experience.  I'm ready for another. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 26, 2008, 11:55:21 PM

I never, EVER said I would be ashamed.  I said it wasn't what I wanted.  I don't see why that has to be disrespected. 
 

MM-hmm. 


I WILL NOT ATTEND COMMUNITY COLLEGE.  NOT EVEN IF YOU PAID ME.  IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. 



I'm just not seeing it in there.  Sorry.  I don't really care what other people think.  I'm going to do what gives me pleasure. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: JWI on September 27, 2008, 12:00:13 AM

I'm going to do what gives me pleasure. 

Pics?
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 27, 2008, 12:26:10 AM
You clearly gave the impression its beneath you, and the people who go there are the morons you attended school with, highschool +1. 

Again, I don't care.  Thats not what this is about.  But if that WAS your only choice, you would most likely not attend, when the degree is the primary goal to elevate your earning potential.  Which it absolutely WOULD do.  Lindsey with a degree is worth more in the job market than Lindsey without a degree.  Thats a fact.  And if you charted your opinion on attending, if thats where you attended, 1 to 10...   1 being embarrassed and 10 being proud, (5 being neutral) you've given every indication that you'd rate it a 1. 

If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that.  I'm sorry if what you think isn't exactly the case.  In a way, maybe I do think I'm above it.  But only because I don't need it.  I guess if I needed to go to a community college in order to be accepted to a four-year university, the tables would be turned.  But I don't.  So why not just skip over it and get down to what needs to happen? 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: YixilTesiphon on September 27, 2008, 12:29:02 AM
You clearly gave the impression its beneath you, and the people who go there are the morons you attended school with, highschool +1. 

Again, I don't care.  Thats not what this is about.  But if that WAS your only choice, you would most likely not attend, when the degree is the primary goal to elevate your earning potential.  Which it absolutely WOULD do.  Lindsey with a degree is worth more in the job market than Lindsey without a degree.  Thats a fact.  And if you charted your opinion on attending, if thats where you attended, 1 to 10...   1 being embarrassed and 10 being proud, (5 being neutral) you've given every indication that you'd rate it a 1. 

If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that.  I'm sorry if what you think isn't exactly the case.  In a way, maybe I do think I'm above it.  But only because I don't need it.  I guess if I needed to go to a community college in order to be accepted to a four-year university, the tables would be turned.  But I don't.  So why not just skip over it and get down to what needs to happen? 

Look Lindsey, fucking Cornell is filled with people you went to high school with, they're just more self-impressed.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 27, 2008, 12:31:06 AM
You clearly gave the impression its beneath you, and the people who go there are the morons you attended school with, highschool +1. 

Again, I don't care.  Thats not what this is about.  But if that WAS your only choice, you would most likely not attend, when the degree is the primary goal to elevate your earning potential.  Which it absolutely WOULD do.  Lindsey with a degree is worth more in the job market than Lindsey without a degree.  Thats a fact.  And if you charted your opinion on attending, if thats where you attended, 1 to 10...   1 being embarrassed and 10 being proud, (5 being neutral) you've given every indication that you'd rate it a 1. 

If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that.  I'm sorry if what you think isn't exactly the case.  In a way, maybe I do think I'm above it.  But only because I don't need it.  I guess if I needed to go to a community college in order to be accepted to a four-year university, the tables would be turned.  But I don't.  So why not just skip over it and get down to what needs to happen? 

Look Lindsey, fucking Cornell is filled with people you went to high school with, they're just more self-impressed.

I'm sure.  It's not about much more than the fact that I already know them.  I'd just like to be able to be pretty much anonymous.  You know, wipe the slate clean kind of thing. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: BonerJoe on September 27, 2008, 12:31:42 AM
In this thread: wah.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 27, 2008, 12:33:04 AM
In this thread: wah.

Perhaps on your part.  Certainly not on mine.  I'm fairly excited about it, actually.  The very fact that I have the desire to go to a learning institution at all again is exciting in itself. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: YixilTesiphon on September 27, 2008, 12:34:33 AM
I'm sure.  It's not about much more than the fact that I already know them.  I'd just like to be able to be pretty much anonymous.  You know, wipe the slate clean kind of thing. 

You can never wipe your social slate clean. You will always be affected in some way by your experiences. And you'll lose your anonymity instantly, no matter where you are.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 27, 2008, 12:41:34 AM
I'm sure.  It's not about much more than the fact that I already know them.  I'd just like to be able to be pretty much anonymous.  You know, wipe the slate clean kind of thing. 

You can never wipe your social slate clean. You will always be affected in some way by your experiences. And you'll lose your anonymity instantly, no matter where you are.

Actually, my plan was just not to tell people anything about myself.  They don't need to know.  Those who I may become close with, is something different, and even then not a lot would be revealed.  I'm tired of re-living the past all the time.  I'd like to focus on the present and scarily enough right now, my future. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 27, 2008, 08:23:13 AM
I'm sure.  It's not about much more than the fact that I already know them.  I'd just like to be able to be pretty much anonymous.  You know, wipe the slate clean kind of thing. 

You can never wipe your social slate clean. You will always be affected in some way by your experiences. And you'll lose your anonymity instantly, no matter where you are.

Actually, my plan was just not to tell people anything about myself.  They don't need to know.  Those who I may become close with, is something different, and even then not a lot would be revealed.  I'm tired of re-living the past all the time.  I'd like to focus on the present and scarily enough right now, my future. 

Whatever you do, don't change your name to Henry Hill. 

Well, there goes my weekend plans. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Rillion on September 27, 2008, 08:43:57 AM
If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that. 

I don't blame you in the slightest.  When I was searching for a college, nothing within the state was in consideration.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 27, 2008, 08:45:19 AM
If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that.

I don't blame you in the slightest.  When I was searching for a college, nothing within the state was in consideration.

Thank you!  Unfortunately I'll have to stay in the state, since loans and such are covering it all, and it will be much easier to pay back.  Also, I have a scholarship from the state of Florida for 75% of my tuition.  Well, I did.  We'll see if it's still there.  I have to get some paperwork in order and make some phone calls. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 27, 2008, 08:48:06 AM
If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that.

I don't blame you in the slightest.  When I was searching for a college, nothing within the state was in consideration.

Thank you!  Unfortunately I'll have to stay in the state, since loans and such are covering it all, and it will be much easier to pay back.  Also, I have a scholarship from the state of Florida for 75% of my tuition.  Well, I did.  We'll see if it's still there.  I have to get some paperwork in order and make some phone calls. 

what, you're not covered by the bailout

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on September 27, 2008, 08:49:49 AM
If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that.

I don't blame you in the slightest.  When I was searching for a college, nothing within the state was in consideration.

Thank you!  Unfortunately I'll have to stay in the state, since loans and such are covering it all, and it will be much easier to pay back.  Also, I have a scholarship from the state of Florida for 75% of my tuition.  Well, I did.  We'll see if it's still there.  I have to get some paperwork in order and make some phone calls. 

what, you're not covered by the bailout



Haha.  I have no idea.  They use the money they tax from the state lottery for these scholarships in Florida. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on September 27, 2008, 09:43:38 AM
If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that.

I don't blame you in the slightest.  When I was searching for a college, nothing within the state was in consideration.

Thank you!  Unfortunately I'll have to stay in the state, since loans and such are covering it all, and it will be much easier to pay back.  Also, I have a scholarship from the state of Florida for 75% of my tuition.  Well, I did.  We'll see if it's still there.  I have to get some paperwork in order and make some phone calls. 

what, you're not covered by the bailout



Haha.  I have no idea.  They use the money they tax from the state lottery for these scholarships in Florida. 

let's start a thread on gambling and how the state attempts to run the only "legitimate" games in town...or at least get in on the action in states that "permit" gambling...

just another way to fleece the sheeple

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: ali-cat on September 27, 2008, 01:33:08 PM
I have a paranoid streak in me. 

This paranoid streak tells me to be wary of him for one of the two following reasons:

 
  • He is operating in a stool pigeon capacity, a subversive agent for the 'other side' who positions himself as a radical in order to attract and befriend people who have opinions similar to the ones he portrays in this arena.  He got himself in a whole shitload of trouble somewhere, and was flipped like a rat.  And he's terrible at it.  But as terrible as he may be at his task, he has the inroads unavailable to his handlers, and is wacky enough to produce results and some intel by association.

  • He is dangerously off his rocker, and would make a suitable candidate for Lee Harvey Oswald training.  This place is, for certain, monitored by feds (if not penetrated).  They will have noticed this trait and will no doubt pay attention to his activities, which puts him back into the above category but without his direct willing participation.

Either way, he's toxic. 

i have long wondered who the stool pidgeon in the freedom movement is. maybe there's more than one. but have you read the moon is a harsh mistress?? good book, and an interesting concept, esp the part about not being able to trust anyone but a choice few with the whole picture.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on September 27, 2008, 03:27:59 PM
If it were a community college in another state, maybe.  But any of the ones around here are going to be filled with people I went to high school with.  I'm not interested in that.

I don't blame you in the slightest.  When I was searching for a college, nothing within the state was in consideration.

Thank you!  Unfortunately I'll have to stay in the state, since loans and such are covering it all, and it will be much easier to pay back.  Also, I have a scholarship from the state of Florida for 75% of my tuition.  Well, I did.  We'll see if it's still there.  I have to get some paperwork in order and make some phone calls. 

what, you're not covered by the bailout



Haha.  I have no idea.  They use the money they tax from the state lottery for these scholarships in Florida. 

let's start a thread on gambling and how the state attempts to run the only "legitimate" games in town...or at least get in on the action in states that "permit" gambling...

just another way to fleece the sheeple





i wrote a letter to the ed. in a local paper,blasting the state liquor commission a while back, after a prolonged 'sting' operation that resulted in a raid on the local vfw.
these 'heroes' championed themselves over the shut-down of an illegal gambling operation = poker machines....big fucking deal.
they went on to cast the club as predatory because people were 'spending their paychecks' on the machines, yet, in the other room, legal, state-sanctioned scratch tickets & pull-tabs are perfectly acceptable, as the state gets to wet its beak.
also, non-predatory,$30-a-shot scratch tickets are available at every liquor store in the state. as though you couldn't squander a paycheck on those fucking things.
their hypocrisy knows no bounds
the great
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: YixilTesiphon on September 27, 2008, 07:47:04 PM
I'm sure.  It's not about much more than the fact that I already know them.  I'd just like to be able to be pretty much anonymous.  You know, wipe the slate clean kind of thing. 

You can never wipe your social slate clean. You will always be affected in some way by your experiences. And you'll lose your anonymity instantly, no matter where you are.

Actually, my plan was just not to tell people anything about myself.  They don't need to know.  Those who I may become close with, is something different, and even then not a lot would be revealed.  I'm tired of re-living the past all the time.  I'd like to focus on the present and scarily enough right now, my future. 

I don't think I'm explaining myself well enough. You constantly relive your past because your reactions are constantly reshaped by your experiences. Thus, you're still kinda hanging out with your friends from high school when you're in college. Your malleability decreases over time, as well.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: YixilTesiphon on September 27, 2008, 08:01:45 PM
I'm sure.  It's not about much more than the fact that I already know them.  I'd just like to be able to be pretty much anonymous.  You know, wipe the slate clean kind of thing. 

You can never wipe your social slate clean. You will always be affected in some way by your experiences. And you'll lose your anonymity instantly, no matter where you are.

Actually, my plan was just not to tell people anything about myself.  They don't need to know.  Those who I may become close with, is something different, and even then not a lot would be revealed.  I'm tired of re-living the past all the time.  I'd like to focus on the present and scarily enough right now, my future. 

I don't think I'm explaining myself well enough. You constantly relive your past because your reactions are constantly reshaped by your experiences. Thus, you're still kinda hanging out with your friends from high school when you're in college. Your malleability decreases over time, as well.

Its like a numerical average.  if you averaged a 5 for the past 20 years, then start hitting 8's into it, eventually you're not a 5 no more. 

However, for the first year or two, you're still damn close to being a 5. 

The only immediate effect of location change is culture shock. 

Yeah.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Taors on September 28, 2008, 01:39:07 AM
Plus, she'll still be fat. It'll be like high school all over again.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: ali-cat on September 29, 2008, 12:24:34 PM
I have a paranoid streak in me. 

This paranoid streak tells me to be wary of him for one of the two following reasons:

 
  • He is operating in a stool pigeon capacity, a subversive agent for the 'other side' who positions himself as a radical in order to attract and befriend people who have opinions similar to the ones he portrays in this arena.  He got himself in a whole shitload of trouble somewhere, and was flipped like a rat.  And he's terrible at it.  But as terrible as he may be at his task, he has the inroads unavailable to his handlers, and is wacky enough to produce results and some intel by association.

  • He is dangerously off his rocker, and would make a suitable candidate for Lee Harvey Oswald training.  This place is, for certain, monitored by feds (if not penetrated).  They will have noticed this trait and will no doubt pay attention to his activities, which puts him back into the above category but without his direct willing participation.

Either way, he's toxic. 

i have long wondered who the stool pidgeon in the freedom movement is. maybe there's more than one. but have you read the moon is a harsh mistress?? good book, and an interesting concept, esp the part about not being able to trust anyone but a choice few with the whole picture.

No, I've never read that book.  Thats the kind of stuff I go for, though.  I use stuff like that as a palate cleanser between classics.  Gives me a dark chuckle.

Moving on...  Yeah, the stool pigeon.  I have a few theories on this, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there was an actual informant placed within the community.  A mole, in intelligence gathering parlance.  Due to the nature of your organization, it would be extremely easy to penetrate the Project.  You welcome outsiders with open arms, from far away, and some of those people tend to be "fringe" personalities who might shy away from the details of their 'previous life'. 

Not to be unflattering, but you guys (as a whole) are kind of low on the radar, meaning not considered a significant threat of physical danger and/or violence.  You'd be watched for long term plans, annoyance protests, tax evasion, minor drug traffic...  and most importantly, heres where you actually are deemed worthy of investigation, being used as a shelter for terror.  As easily as you could be penetrated by an agent of law, you could be penetrated by a hostile goofball (i.e. "terrorist") who would use your connections and activities as a pre-formed network to operate within.  Of course, you wouldn't willingly have an actual terrorist hanging around with a camel parked outside Taproom Tuesday.  I'm talking about a rogue Tim McVeigh. 

If I could spot that potential, the feds could.  And that would be the most likely reason for them to put an agent "on the ground." 

If it wasn't for that potential misuse of your organization, you could be monitored online with a fair amount of online intelligence gathering.  You guys communicate on open channels without any consideration of law enforcement monitoring.  The percentage of participants not on-line is negligible, they can be seen photographed and identified at the events, their address cataloged from simple research like the DMV and periodic checks to see if that car is in the driveway at the listed address.

The field agent assigned to your activities would be about 26 y/o, probably female, single, and have an entry level white collar job to account for relatively decent living accommodations, although a trust fund college student is not unlikely.  Probably lives alone, and drives a car that won't break down. 


that's kind of what i was thinking, as far as being low on the radar. but i have considered all of the things you mentioned. it's one of the reasons i didn't sign up for so long, but then i figured that since my husband was online they would figure it out in no time. you should really read the moon is a harsh mistress.
i'm a big fan of the classics  :D
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Riddler on December 13, 2009, 10:37:52 AM
pointless bump of dead thread is pointless
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: DontTreadOnMike on December 13, 2009, 10:41:39 AM
Goddammit why is there so much drama here? Who the hell cares? I've honestly never seen any bitch as much as they do around here
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on December 13, 2009, 11:47:57 AM
Goddammit why is there so much drama here? Who the hell cares? I've honestly never seen any bitch as much as they do around here

exactly, let's get back to the real enemy here

THE JEWS
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 13, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
Goddammit why is there so much drama here? Who the hell cares? I've honestly never seen any bitch as much as they do around here

Because Rob goes through periods of crazy.  When he does this, he makes veiled threats of violence, spams entire boards needlessly with random subjects, trolls other threads with complete jibberish nobody understands, and basically acts like an asshole.  This is a tolerant place, but it stretches the tolerance to its limits. 

In other places, sister forums if you will, he has been banned completely.  This alone underscores the tolerance here.  Too many people get the wrong impression of "virtually unmoderated".  This does not mean anything goes.  It should not be expected to mean anything goes.  This is an online community owned by a private interest, who has a financial stake in this forum, as it is the online presence of a nationally syndicated radio show.  As such, it has over time morphed slightly to reflect the owners ideology which is basically that of an ancap community.  A few of us have voluntarily accepted the task of acting in the best interests of the community standard as we interpret them, while others work in the technical aspects of forum maintenance.  So far, this has elicited no negative responses from the owner, so we continue to use our judgment until told otherwise.   

Make no mistake, we'll show boobs, talk dirty, joke raunchy.  We are human.  But in the backs of our minds, we sometimes pause and decide against posting certain things.  Other people don't always do this.  It is this filter through which we view the rest of the participants.  One, two, three things we often let go.  When the line of personal conduct is clearly   violated, we warn.  When the warning is not heeded, we begin to act.  We discuss among ourselves the next course of action, and try to set the bar fairly high so the person will run out of steam naturally before they get there.  By the time a person gets there, they are a fuckin' problem. 

Rob is a fuckin' problem. 

Is should be understood, we as mods view the psychology of this role with some personal introspection.  We are not authoritarians.  Without using three-dollar words, we basically hate cops, enforcers, and most people who do this sort of thing to satisfy their personal powerlust.  I've never discussed this with John, but I'm sure he's questioned himself along the same lines.  The answer is civility, to the question which is harder to define - "Why impose your will upon people?"  No actual harm befalls the very few people we act upon.  They simply one day cannot enter a private property and act like assholes, lowering the standard which discourages more intelligent participants.  This could be true spammers, or trolls who have a real problem with their behavior.  They can still read  the boards, they are only prohibited from defacing them with angry messages and provocative rhetoric, which is probably better for the enjoyment by the larger community and the image of the show.  By the time this happens, they have been warned numerous times.  They decline to alter their methods, by some misguided personal definition of "free speech rights" which are contrary to private property rights, one of which actually resides here, the other of which does not. 

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on December 14, 2009, 09:29:33 AM
Goddammit why is there so much drama here? Who the hell cares? I've honestly never seen any bitch as much as they do around here

Because Rob goes through periods of crazy.  When he does this, he makes veiled threats of violence, spams entire boards needlessly with random subjects, trolls other threads with complete jibberish nobody understands, and basically acts like an asshole.  This is a tolerant place, but it stretches the tolerance to its limits. 

In other places, sister forums if you will, he has been banned completely.  This alone underscores the tolerance here.  Too many people get the wrong impression of "virtually unmoderated".  This does not mean anything goes.  It should not be expected to mean anything goes.  This is an online community owned by a private interest, who has a financial stake in this forum, as it is the online presence of a nationally syndicated radio show.  As such, it has over time morphed slightly to reflect the owners ideology which is basically that of an ancap community.  A few of us have voluntarily accepted the task of acting in the best interests of the community standard as we interpret them, while others work in the technical aspects of forum maintenance.  So far, this has elicited no negative responses from the owner, so we continue to use our judgment until told otherwise.   

Make no mistake, we'll show boobs, talk dirty, joke raunchy.  We are human.  But in the backs of our minds, we sometimes pause and decide against posting certain things.  Other people don't always do this.  It is this filter through which we view the rest of the participants.  One, two, three things we often let go.  When the line of personal conduct is clearly   violated, we warn.  When the warning is not heeded, we begin to act.  We discuss among ourselves the next course of action, and try to set the bar fairly high so the person will run out of steam naturally before they get there.  By the time a person gets there, they are a fuckin' problem. 

Rob is a fuckin' problem. 

Is should be understood, we as mods view the psychology of this role with some personal introspection.  We are not authoritarians.  Without using three-dollar words, we basically hate cops, enforcers, and most people who do this sort of thing to satisfy their personal powerlust.  I've never discussed this with John, but I'm sure he's questioned himself along the same lines.  The answer is civility, to the question which is harder to define - "Why impose your will upon people?"  No actual harm befalls the very few people we act upon.  They simply one day cannot enter a private property and act like assholes, lowering the standard which discourages more intelligent participants.  This could be true spammers, or trolls who have a real problem with their behavior.  They can still read  the boards, they are only prohibited from defacing them with angry messages and provocative rhetoric, which is probably better for the enjoyment by the larger community and the image of the show.  By the time this happens, they have been warned numerous times.  They decline to alter their methods, by some misguided personal definition of "free speech rights" which are contrary to private property rights, one of which actually resides here, the other of which does not. 



Again...where...in over 5000 posts...do you find a substantial difference in the topics, subjects, and substenance?

If I was Howard Stern in real life(full disclosure: I am not)...would Howard Stern ever be banned and/or censored here?

Regardless of your comfort level with the topics raised...

Shouldn't they be raised nevertheless?

Like I posted regarding Mark and promoting the show...in today's global one-on-one communication...it takes Howard Stern, Hard Questions, and Shocking Topics(or at least shock over the fact of them ever being realistically discussed in the open on global media)...to get noticed above the screams and cries of the victims of the couch warriors...


Everyone here has heard of the personage of Howard Stern...amirite?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Stern

http://www.howardstern.com/

or are we to accept perpetual mediocracy instead?

everyone wishing FTL was as popular as the Howard Stern Show please raise your hands now...

oh...that many...wow!

enjoy!

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Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on December 14, 2009, 09:54:15 AM
with 6.6 billion individual sovereign human beings on the planet...

and you spent your most valuable asset(time) writing what again?

like I said, you gotta beef with someone...replace their name with Howard Stern and see if you can still justify YOUR beliefs...

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Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on December 14, 2009, 10:11:24 AM
And...since I brought up the issue of our most precious and valuable resource...our limited time between birth and death...

I'll also state that...while you may not have an objection to two years in prison for having the wrong orchid(see below)...

someone who is elderly...or terminally ill...or just objects to being politically imprisoned over a god-damn plant...

might see things differently...

so you should probably think long and hard before you go attempting to kidnap other human beings...

some of them might not take too kindly to it...

since you are attempting to rob them at gunpoint or threat thereof...of their most precious time!


enjoy!

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(some of the included links may no longer work since this was not written this morning)

I wanted to comment briefly regarding what some might call a gift...and others might call a curse

You're perhaps familiar with the slogan "what would jesus do" or "walk a mile in the other guy's shoes" or "the grass is
always greener on the other side of the fence" or "if life is such a bowl of cherries, why did I get all the pits"

And perhaps you even understand jury-duty...fully-informed jury-duty that is...
You know...a juror who sincerely attempts to put themselves in the shoes of the other clods in the room...
As you'll read below, perhaps you'll put on the shoes of the orchid grower jailed for possessing the wrong flower...
Or perhaps you'll try on the shoes of the millions of others jackbooted for a behavior or hobby that has no victim...
Victimless crimes...no damage to person or property...and yet your daughter's favorite clove-flavored cigarette will get
her jackbooted and smashed in the face if she does not obey the dictates of the Amerikan Nazi SS Stormtroopers on patrol
against clove flavoring and those deadly orchid blossoms...

Seriously...Irwin Schiff is an old man...politically imprisoned for the rest of his life...for refusing to pay for and
forge his own shackles and chains...and for asking others to refuse to do so as well...

There are others as well...many others in fact...who are held political prisoners for other such insanities...

Perhaps you'd like to come with me on my latest journey viewing the following while wearing jesus's sandals...

Indeed...what would your messiah do?

hmmm....

If they came here and occupied your neighborhood...well, you know you'd be pissed:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/10/18/rohde/index.html

John Stossel on Michael Moore's deceit:
http://reason.com/archives/2009/10/15/whats-michael-moore-talking-ab/singlepage

Then of course there are the jackbooted, machinegun-totting flower nazis:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/05/criminalizing-everyone/?feat=home_top5_read

Words don't suffice...Wall Street Journal on more robbing-poor-peter-for-paul's-pleasure:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107204574473724099542430.html

Pretty much speechless, $400.00 per gallon fuel for occupational mercenaries on foreign soil:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/63407-400gallon-gas-another-cost-of-war-in-afghanistan-

And we know hemp is opposed by any/all competing industries and products:
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19373.cfm

When lightbulbs are outlawed...only outlaws will have light?
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-europe-lightbulbs18-2009oct18,0,603756,full.story

Just another element thrown into the powderkeg:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/oath-keepers-pledges-to-prevent-dictatorship-in-united-states-64690232.html

A little ditty on some stuff we eat:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/mercola9.1.1.html

All hail all present and future Obamanation El Presidentes:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt392.html

Gambling shouldn't be regulated by ANY gunvernment...and DEFINITELY not supported by it either:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/quinn/quinn16.1.html

Onward Christian Mercenaries! Jesus And His Machinegun-Totting Glob-Trotting Disciples Bringing Peace Through Murder:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance185.html

Still good, forty years later:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/hess-k1.html

Gerald Celente and his looking glass:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente17.1.html

Shortages of food to starve the monkeys...you're not a monkey are you...hahaha:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rogers-j/rogers-j46.1.html

Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on December 14, 2009, 10:22:17 AM
Quit it with the fucking spam.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: NHArticleTen on December 14, 2009, 10:27:45 AM
Quit it with the fucking spam.

where is the spam?

are you refering to the necessity of double-posting in an attempt to keep stuff from ending up in the rabbit hole?

maybe you would feel differently if your threads, posts, and profile were screwed with...

[flames and denials]....[/flames and denials]

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Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 14, 2009, 04:48:01 PM
I wish Howard was here, so you could deep throat his fuckin cock, and milk it all over your face like a cows teet. 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Lindsey on December 14, 2009, 07:01:24 PM
WHAT.THE.FUCK.
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 14, 2009, 07:04:34 PM
Did I say that out loud? 
Title: Re: Rob, AKA NHArticleTen, we need to talk, no BS.
Post by: sillyperson on December 14, 2009, 08:14:44 PM
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