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AL the Inconspicuous

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Re: Sex
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2010, 01:09:02 AM »

Does Sherry Jackson work for the IRS?  :?
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« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2010, 01:13:35 AM »

Earlier in the thread someone brought up the point that things that are pleasurable are biologically "good" and things that are painful are biologically "bad".  However, the use of certain hallucinogins and hard narcotics would seem to contradict this, as they can cause immense pleasure but are also extremely harmful to the body and mind.
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« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2010, 01:41:28 AM »

The human body evolved to function under certain natural parameters.

The human mind evolved to the point of being able to hack its environment, including its own body, far beyond what nature had originally intended.
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« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2010, 02:50:40 AM »

Earlier in the thread someone brought up the point that things that are pleasurable are biologically "good" and things that are painful are biologically "bad".  However, the use of certain hallucinogins and hard narcotics would seem to contradict this, as they can cause immense pleasure but are also extremely harmful to the body and mind.

The pleasure centers can be fooled.  Thats what drugs do.  They are unnatural, in the sense that they bring no nutrients into the body.  The reward mechanisms are primarily to do exactly that, to reward. 

The effect of psychoactive drugs is actually supposed to be a preventative device in nature, like a poison, which discourages consumption by herbivores.  This allows the plant to reproduce if its inedible in quantities.  By coincidence, this "poison" happens to be attractive in smaller quantities and brings pleasure stimulus.  If you were to eat enough to make a meal, you would be severely incapacitated, and likely not attempt it again.  Nature knows nothing of using fire on it, or rendering the shit into needle form. 

So the drugs actually do work as intended by nature.  It is we who have circumvented the laws of nature and found ways to introduce the substances in pleasurable, smaller quantities. 

By introducing pleasure with unnatural means, and gaining no nutritional value in the process, it becomes recreational.  Recreational activities are supposed to be secondary, after maintaining health and the necessary living skills.  If they rise in rank and become a primary activity, other things slip, like hygiene and social stability, mental alacrity, and the means of self-sufficiency like work, or its older reflection of hunting/gathering. 

People will obviously rally around the argument of pot being natural and edible.  And this is true.  But if you ate a whole bowl full like a regular salad, you'd be sick as a fucking dog, flat on your back.  Thats the benchmark, in a nutshell, and what proves its a recreational substance.  You're supposed to be able to eat as much as you want and the pleasure is supposed to be an absence of hunger, craving of nutrition satisfied.  Since you have to be careful about how much you ingest, and know it will have an intoxicating effect, it is to be recognized as a potentially harmful substance. 

And believe me, I like pot, and most drugs.  But my pro-arguments aren't so amateurish as the common fuckhead.  Recreational use of intoxicants and psychedelics open some wonderful doors of perception, bring many positive introspective and creative things into the mind of the user, and society as a whole.  They provide escapism from the mundane, and enjoyment if used properly.  But only if they are kept in the proper #2 position, secondary and not primary, and used responsibly. 

Of course, we'd probably have better luck with that if they weren't so taboo and treated by youth as a forbidden fruit, which promotes irresponsible use/abuse that paves the way to addiction in adults. 
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« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2010, 04:26:18 AM »

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By introducing pleasure with unnatural means, and gaining no nutritional value in the process, it becomes recreational.

Okay, so my instinct (see what I did there?) to rant and rave has ebbed.

FUCK. YOU.

The human capacity to reason, to manipulate and to change is NATURAL.

Take your "unnatural" shit and shove it.

How's that for ya?
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« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2010, 05:35:03 AM »

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By introducing pleasure with unnatural means, and gaining no nutritional value in the process, it becomes recreational.

Okay, so my instinct (see what I did there?) to rant and rave has ebbed.

FUCK. YOU.

The human capacity to reason, to manipulate and to change is NATURAL.

Take your "unnatural" shit and shove it.

How's that for ya?

Kevin Dean is incapable of reading entire POST.

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« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2010, 05:43:24 AM »


Quote from post where Kevin Dean fails. 


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Recreational use of intoxicants and psychedelics open some wonderful doors of perception, bring many positive introspective and creative things into the mind of the user, and society as a whole.  They provide escapism from the mundane, and enjoyment if used properly.  But only if they are kept in the proper #2 position, secondary and not primary, and used responsibly.
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« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2010, 08:11:13 AM »

Hey Drifter, seriously, do I know you in person?

I could poke fun and tug your chain all day, but if you're someone I know, I'd love to do it in person.

Dude... I'm drunk... I'm trolling... It's all in good fun. This is an internet forum. I think I've posted enough here that people know when I'm being serious and not. Unless your Denis Goddard... then you just suck. :P
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« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2010, 12:13:51 PM »

Great post drifter.  Moderation is a key point to follow in all aspects of life.  As the stand-up comedian Doug Stanhope said, "theres only two type of people who don't like drugs, those never tried them and those that really fucking sucked at doing them."

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« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2010, 12:18:48 PM »

Great post drifter.  Moderation is a key point to follow in all aspects of life.  As the stand-up comedian Doug Stanhope said, "theres only two type of people who don't like drugs, those never tried them and those that really fucking sucked at doing them."

This is mean of me and I know it, but my boyfriend's brother has a girlfriend who is....not too bright, to put it charitably.  The other night we were talking about drugs, and she said she didn't like LSD because it really messes with her head.  I couldn't help but think that there was a connection there.  The only people I've talked to who dislike LSD for that reason have been pretty dim. 
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« Reply #70 on: January 08, 2010, 12:39:10 PM »

Confronted your own ego is a humbling experience to say the least.  Last night my wife was watching some show on discovery/tlc/history channel where this guy goes into the amazon and lives with Brazilians.  Some episodes he cuts down rain forests, some he works with cocoa farmers, etc. 
Well this episode he wanted to have the shaman experience with some hallucinogen they drink.  The first time he didn't do enough and was in essence calling bullshit on the vision quest experience.   So he went to a different shaman, one known to make a wicked strong brew.  He tripped balls and commented on how he kept battling his ego and having to confront how ugly he was on the inside.  He got mind-fucked. 
Rillion I'm sure the girl you are talking about had some truthful/insightful experience she'd rather not be privy to.  Ignorance is bliss to some people.
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« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2010, 12:47:17 AM »

Have they invented Viagra for women yet? 
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« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2010, 12:53:50 AM »

Have they invented Viagra for women yet? 

Yes, it's called a new credit card.
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« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2010, 07:01:06 AM »

Have they invented Viagra for women yet? 

i believe it is just called rape.

the vag will lubricate itself. eventually.
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« Reply #74 on: January 09, 2010, 09:15:26 AM »

Have they invented Viagra for women yet?  

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However, in December 2004 the United States the 14-member Food and Drug Administration (FDA) advisory committee, plus voting consultants, for Reproductive Health Drugs unanimously rejected Procter and Gamble's fast-track request for Intrinsa citing concerns about off-label use.

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