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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2010, 12:55:41 PM »

I was always under the notion that really for real "asexuals" do not even get horny [...]

Great, another issue over semantic vagueness [2].  "Asexual" simply means "no sex for me, thank you".  It is an umbrella term that includes people who have mental or physical inability to have sex, no interest in having sex, or choose to suppress or reroute their sexual urges for whatever reason.  It also both includes people who define sex as necessarily an interpersonal act, or any possible means of sexual gratification.  In other words it's a very vague definition, but it definitely excludes the most common forms of sex (including homosexuality, interpersonal digital manipulation, interpersonal dry-humping, etc) with other human beings.


It is also pretty much impossible to deal with chicks without wanting to fuck them.

It is impossible for me to deal with a yummy piece of meat without wanting to eat it, but I don't, because I believe I have a rational reason not to, and my integrity is worth a whole lot more.


So how does Alex The Transhumanist aka The Sexual Hacker....expect to solve this problem of endless instinctual sexual baiting?

Castration is a possibility, but not until a few years from now.  Basically what I want is the opposite of a vasectomy - no sexual urges, but plenty of sperm in the bank if any females ever agree to be artificially inseminated.  (Which in theory should also be possible through cloning, without the need to freeze any of my own sperm ahead of time, but the old fashioned way is still cheaper and involves much less government red tape.)


I really don't dig the extreme nihilism in this thread.

Woah, where did that come from?!  What nihilism??  Are you confused about what nihilism is?!

I have extraordinarily well defined but still ever-evolving convictions, moral values, and goals!  I even recognize the need to procreate [2], but the monkey-brained obsession with interpersonal sex is not the only way to do it!
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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2010, 04:35:10 PM »

I for one support castration, and think more men should get it done.

I would encourage everyone to hold off on any elective surgery until the Free Stater agorist economy is advanced enough to provide trustworthy medical services.  It would be kind of stupid for agorists to try to grow their own food, etc, but to leave their sex cells in a lab that is regulated by the state....   :shock:


Well maybe NHAT and Libman and Alciere, but I don't think I support that in general.

I am indifferent to your animosity, but I'd like to correct you in that you're still equating interpersonal sex with reproduction.  I could still father an unlimited number of biological children, possibly even after I'm dead, to say nothing of my ability to advance and influence civilization by non-genetic means as well!
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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2010, 10:00:51 PM »

You can castrate yourself if you like.  [...]

Hey now, my balls are very valuable at this point!  I just started offering my artificial insemination commodity, and I already have like three different women interested.  (Or at least pretending to be interested until I fax them the contract and they figure out I'm serious.)  I wonder if I can produce enough during my lifetime to keep up with demand!  :lol:


[Being John Shaw]

Does the word "troll" even have a specific meaning anymore?  This is a serious thread summarizing my thoughts on a very serious issue.  No one asked your opinion specifically, but I would welcome any comments that are constructive or at least coherent.  Yours weren't.


ALEX I COME TO NEW HAMPSHIRE FUCK YOU IN ASS K

I was mostly heterosexual (and most guys I was attracted to were younger) before I became asexual - which is what this thread is about!

Last warning before moving this to Hijack Free Zone...   :x
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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2010, 11:23:45 PM »

So asexuality is a reaction to latent homosexuality?  Should have known.

Heck no, I experienced the most same-sex attraction in my teens (and always to younger boys, but without really thinking about the mechanics of homosexual sex) and it declined from there.  The idea of abusing either end of the digestive system in that way disgusts me.  And it was mostly an experiment in open-mindedness - I've always preferred girls, and I've been attracted to girls for as long as I can remember myself.
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2010, 02:47:16 AM »

Meh delete it all you want, but this still is one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2010, 03:09:08 AM »

I regret having to delete stuff, but some people are just way too hateful for absolutely no rational reason, and, as years of experience have shown, just cannot be dealt with constructively.  I usually don't mind, but I am disgusted at the idea of someday looking back at this life-changing thread 50 or 100 years from now and having to remember those idiots, who otherwise don't deserve to be remembered...
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2010, 03:16:13 AM »

I regret having to delete stuff, but some people are just way too hateful for absolutely no rational reason, and, as years of experience have shown, just cannot be dealt with constructively.  I usually don't mind, but I am disgusted at the idea of someday looking back at this life-changing thread 50 or 100 years from now and having to remember those idiots, who otherwise don't deserve to be remembered...


Fair enough I suppose.  I was half joking btw
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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2010, 10:12:15 AM »

I once went 3 years w/o sex, sometimes it was very difficult saying no and I would have to be careful about the situations I put myself in.  It was good for me.

 :shock: You have more willpower than I do. A couple years ago while on a backpacking trip, I had to go without for two weeks. It was a LONG two weeks!
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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2010, 10:41:19 AM »

Alex, your intellect is a drop of piss in an ocean of the minds of your betters. Your mind is tiny and weak. You have nothing. Go die already.

In before anything you say, which will undoubtedly be stupid.
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2010, 01:36:39 PM »

So asexuality is a reaction to latent homosexuality?  Should have known.

Heck no, I experienced the most same-sex attraction in my teens (and always to younger boys, but without really thinking about the mechanics of homosexual sex) and it declined from there.  The idea of abusing either end of the digestive system in that way disgusts me.  And it was mostly an experiment in open-mindedness - I've always preferred girls, and I've been attracted to girls for as long as I can remember myself.


You should explore this area more, Alex, with a trained professional. "Pedophilia" is commonly used as the most offensive way to label some one but is an actual attraction for a minority of the population. Could your desire to be asexual stem from attractions you can not act upon? What you summed up in your reply sounds like the clinical definition of what I suspect as typical pedophilia.

My guess is most pedophiles end up being asexual due to a lack of physical attraction to people of legal age and the non existent pool of those they are attracted to along with the fact the physical attraction never really leads to a real enough desire to act upon their attraction.Or to put in another way, the attraction is at odds with their humanity and not wanting to harm another person and they are only left with the option of asexual.  Although, "option" really is not the right word.
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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2010, 01:52:01 PM »

Nope, lost interest.

Sexual entrapment is yet another weapon the government fucks will no longer be able to use against me!  :D


PS:  what is Shaw trying to overcompensate for this time?  He's been even more pushy than usual since I started this thread...


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« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2010, 02:49:02 PM »

So asexuality is a reaction to latent homosexuality?  Should have known.

Heck no, I experienced the most same-sex attraction in my teens (and always to younger boys,

What you summed up in your reply sounds like the clinical definition of what I suspect as typical pedophilia.

Uh, no.  Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children by adults.   When you were a teenage boy attracted to younger girls, were you a pedophile?
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2010, 04:22:46 PM »

So asexuality is a reaction to latent homosexuality?  Should have known.

Heck no, I experienced the most same-sex attraction in my teens (and always to younger boys,

What you summed up in your reply sounds like the clinical definition of what I suspect as typical pedophilia.

Uh, no.  Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children by adults.   When you were a teenage boy attracted to younger girls, were you a pedophile?

Nope, have always like older women. Even as a pre-pubescent myself Farah Fawcettt and the rest of Charlie's Angels tripped my trigger. To call my sexuality, even as a teenager, into question diverts from the subject and I can not help but suspect it was meant as a subtle personal attack. It also reinforces peoples fear of talking about pedophilia in a neutral manner, which does no one any good. If it is not understood how can it be dealt with?

Teens are young adults.Quote from Alex : my teens (and always to younger boys. This along with Alex's history of dropping hints, or at times outright proclamations,  on the boards in relation to this subject gave me enough to diagnose a possible reason for his proclaimed asexualness. Alex stated he wished to discuss this topic in a serious way and I gave my honest take on it.

Lately, it appears Alex is losing his grip. My suggestion to seek professional help is sincere and I hope it is in no way taken as an assault.
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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2010, 05:36:44 PM »

Nope, have always like older women. Even as a pre-pubescent myself Farah Fawcettt and the rest of Charlie's Angels tripped my trigger. To call my sexuality, even as a teenager, into question diverts from the subject and I can not help but suspect it was meant as a subtle personal attack.

No, it's meant to point out that if being sexually attracted to younger people as a teenager by itself makes someone a pedophile, then most men on the planet are pedophiles.  But obviously most men are not pedophiles, because that's not what "pedophile" means.  If Libman had said he was sexually attracted to eight year olds, then calling him a pedophile would make sense...especially if he was still attracted to them as an adult. 

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Teens are young adults.Quote from Alex : my teens (and always to younger boys. This along with Alex's history of dropping hints, or at times outright proclamations,  on the boards in relation to this subject gave me enough to diagnose a possible reason for his proclaimed asexualness.

Leaving aside everything else he has said, there is nothing wrong with a teenager being attracted to younger boys if those boys are not dramatically younger. 
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« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2010, 08:27:40 PM »

  • Speaking out against the government throwing people for decades in prison for possession of 1's and 0's on their computer - 10 Pedophile points.

  • Speaking out more - 20 Pedophile points.

  • Making some highly subjective jokes about the issue - 30 Pedophile points.

  • Admitting that you've downloaded kiddy porn from Usenet when you yourself were a teenager - 50 Pedophile points.

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