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AL the Inconspicuous

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Rational rejection of interpersonal sex.
« on: February 11, 2010, 02:08:35 PM »

I hereby proclaim my rational rejection of interpersonal sex!

The idea of two (or more) people being totally in sync with each-other's sexual needs is becoming an ancient myth.  Yes, it's possible (or so some people claim), but it's a huge gamble, and at what cost?  And you can never be truly, sustainably happy if your happiness depends on someone else - someone who could leave you or change or get sick or suffer an accident at any time.  And someone who is your ideal romantic partner is not necessarily an ideal partner in all other things.

The more sophisticated a human mind becomes, the more individualistic it becomes, and thus the greater is the sacrifice it would need to make to adapt to his or her sexual partner(s).  There is something downright disgusting about a caricature of a millionaire paying someone else to tie his shoelaces or wipe his butt for him, and I am starting to feel the same way about sex.  Self-reliance (i.e. masturbation) is starting to seem a far more rational, creative, and dignified outlet for human sexual urges (if they can't be turned off entirely).

I am a big fan of natalism and increasing the human population, but sex and procreation have become two completely different things.  A sperm donor who has never had interpersonal sex or even hugged another person in his entire life can father millions of children (if his genes or other economic incentives are deemed so desirable), while a prostitute who averages dozens of different partners a day can die completely childless!

A person not wasting his/her time, money, and emotional energy on other romantic / sexual partners will be able to allocate more of those resources toward more meaningful things, including enjoying solo-erotic activities with complete emotional peace and fulfillment.  Instead of wasting your life trying and most likely failing to have a soul-mate, you can instead strengthen yourself as a more complete individual, and thus a better human being!

It is natural for people to have a lot of love they want to give to others, but there are far more rational and rewarding outlets for that love than sexual relations: art, career, platonic relationships with one's intellectual peers, parents, and most important of all - children.  With proper and gender-equal economic incentives for people to have children, a sexually inactive single parent would be far more likely to be a better parent because s\he would choose additional parent-figures for his/her children (tutors, homeschooling partners, etc) on the basis of their benefit to the children rather than to him/herself.  In fact, concerns over future sexual attractiveness and freedom to pursue future sexual conquests is the main reason why people end up having fewer kids!

The economic benefits of interpersonal asexuality are unbelievable!  It seems that some people waste half of their lives just to be more desirable to potential sexual partners, or to deal with the consequences of their past sexual passions (STD's, unwanted children, unhappy families, etc).  Limiting yourself to occasional masturbation (which is no different from any other bodily function) makes a person healthy, wealthy, and wise - and those things should be particularly important to an atheist who enjoys life and wants to prolong it as much as possible.

Imagine being on your deathbed at the forefront of the 22nd century, desperately looking for a bank that would give you a loan for an organ replacement surgery necessary to save your life, knowing that it would make a difference between possible immortality in a holodeck-like paradise that's better than anything we can today imagine and complete and total demise.  As one bank after another rejects your application, you are going to seriously regret all the time and money you've wasted hanging out with your "cool" friends in bars trying to pick up easy women, or sitting through chick-flicks / guy-flicks you don't enjoy, or shopping for a new fur coat for your wife...

Sure, materialism isn't everything, even if your existence in this materialistic universe may depend on it, but even subjective happiness can be more abundant if you just overcome your monkey-brain's irrational desire for interpersonal sex!  Imagine all the great things you could learn by choosing the people you interact with on the basis of intelligence and other constructive benefit rather than sex or popularity (most nonsexual relationships are based on advancing one's social status, with sexual desirability being the primary motivator).  In comparison to that, wasting one's time, money, and mental energy on romantic love or sex seems like subhuman stupidity!

A self-esteem boost that is obtained by appeasing your irrational emotions displaces the potential for boosting your ego through far more substantive accomplishment.  I wouldn't trade even a minute of my intellectual self-expression even on this silly forum for an hour of sex with the most desirable sexual partner(s) this world has to offer!  The knowledge that I intake on this forum will benefit me for as long as I exist, and the ideas that I create could last as long as the human civilization!


« Last Edit: February 11, 2010, 02:27:01 PM by Alex Libman »
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Re: Rational rejection of interpersonal sex.
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2010, 02:28:13 PM »

People need human contact. I believe this has already been proven has it not? Without some touch a person's mind becomes unstable. We are social creatures.

I'd suggest putting some of the energy you are giving to this subject into attempting to make physical contact with others. Your sanity will thank you.
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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2010, 02:36:26 PM »

Its not like anything has changed for you.

Sure, I was always a socially retarded little computer nerd, but I've demonstrated myself quite capable of surpassing that whenever I recognized the need.  I even transformed my body for a while by spending like 20 hours a week in a gym.  I've had plenty of good sex with women who were madly in love with me, and I've tried everything at least once.  I've also had plenty of mediocre sex, and sex I had to pay for, which I could quite easily afford.

And now I don't plan on having interpersonal sex ever again - by my own choice, for the reasons described above as well as several others, similar to those described on my Tax Resister Diet thread.  Sex is a weapon that every serious dissident should guard himself against!
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2010, 02:46:19 PM »

You should give up porn.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2010, 02:50:51 PM »

Glad to hear you've come up with yet another tenet of personal life philosophy which makes you ever more content with your mental & emotional quirks?

ZING!
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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 03:14:26 PM »

People need human contact.  [...]

Monkeys might need contact from other monkeys, but what a human being needs is a moving target.  Human beings can alter their environment as well as themselves for their own benefit, and they can supersede their lower instincts via their capacity to reason.  A mind that can build an iPhone or a space station doesn't always need his animal instincts to tell him how to live!


Your sanity will thank you.  [...]

There is no positive correlation between sexual activity and intellect.  In fact the intellectual elite in many societies have often been celibate (with or without castration), while people with particularly low IQ's will fuck anyone and anything twenty times a day if they can.


Glad to hear you've come up with yet another tenet of personal life philosophy which makes you ever more content with your mental & emotional quirks?

My quirks do not rule me.  I rule my quirks.


You should give up porn.

I would if I thought it was a rational thing to do.  I probably could even give up masturbation entirely if I wanted to - I have for a couple of weeks before, but it did not make me a better person, and it certainly wouldn't help with my recent efforts to quit my addiction to hateful stupid rants that can be far more destructive.  Mindless prohibitions and self-discipline for its own sake is not what I'm about!

If I get the desire to masturbate while in the shower I do so without porn (no waterproof screens yet), and that's really the ideal place to do it, but if I get this desire at any other appropriate time (and I have nothing better to do) then I do prefer to have some porn to enhance and expedite the process.  I've always liked to read about Japanese culture while eating Japanese food, and reviewing the nutritional benefits of a healthy meal does seem to make it tastier, and watching certain videos does motivate me to work out, etc - so why not stimulate my mind with pornography while fulfilling my body's sexual needs? 
« Last Edit: February 11, 2010, 03:20:02 PM by Alex Libman »
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2010, 04:08:28 PM »

Is it not a common trait amongst serial killers that they were devoid of human contact while growing up? This might be something you could look into before messing with nature.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2010, 04:17:28 PM »

I'd rather be with someone who can both fuck my brains out and be a friend to me than be completely alone and having no sex.
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Re: Rational rejection of interpersonal sex.
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2010, 05:34:28 PM »

Is it not a common trait amongst serial killers that they were devoid of human contact while growing up? This might be something you could look into before messing with nature.


Wha?????

Youre saying he should look into being a serial killer?
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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010, 05:41:45 PM »

Is it not a common trait amongst serial killers that they were devoid of human contact while growing up?

Being capable of murder is not in of itself a weakness.  Being able to control your emotions for a rational purpose is a strength.


I'd rather be with someone who can both fuck my brains out and be a friend to me than be completely alone and having no sex.

Good luck.  Or you could reevaluate the need to have your brains fucked out of you by another human being, which would free up a greater portion of your life for other things.  Not having sexual compatibility as a criteria would open you to being able to have better friends.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010, 05:45:52 PM »

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AL the Inconspicuous

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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2010, 06:03:30 PM »

One moment of true intellectual conquest feels better than 10,000,000 orgasms!

You might have to take my word on this though.  ;)
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2010, 06:12:54 PM »

One moment of true intellectual conquest feels better than 10,000,000 orgasms!

You might have to take my word on this though.  ;)


ur doing it wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2010, 06:19:00 PM »

One moment of true intellectual conquest feels better than 10,000,000 orgasms!

You might have to take my word on this though.  ;)

You know what's even better? Both. Try it some time.

Yeah, you've really turned over a new leaf, there, Drunky Mc Drunkenstein. Have another shot of cheap vodka.

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2010, 06:25:37 PM »

I can't for the life of me fathom why someone would feel the need to make a choice between intellectual conquest and orgasms.   If it's a time issue, surely Libman has wasted exponentially more time here blathering on than he has orgasming.  Why not give that up?

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