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Re: Racism
« Reply #75 on: August 10, 2011, 12:07:31 PM »

But the point I am trying to make (as far as metaphysics goes) is that one cannot argue for biological causality without implying determinism, nor argue for choice without opening the issue of biological causality to question. And once that question is on the table, then I repeat my assertion that environment is a more likely cause than biology for group behavior. Nurture over nature, in short.
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Re: Racism
« Reply #76 on: August 10, 2011, 12:31:50 PM »

But the point I am trying to make (as far as metaphysics goes)

aAnd the point I'm trying to make is if metaphysics is at all involved than you might have an idea but you don't know shit so stop acting like it.  Telling a board full of atheists to stop using an entire word and not give them a replacement which essentially means to abandon a gazillion year old concept over your hunch is completely fucking retarded.  AND  be honest up front that you're talking about a spiritual belief, NOT a scientifically observable fact.


Interestingly....  At The School of Metaphysics they say that the 3 races were founded by 3 different alien races.  That those alien races are very keen on keeping them seperate because they are custom made for them to inhabit and they don't want us fucking them up by making mix-breeds that are not as specialized for their demonic possession pleasure.  INTERGALACTIC RACE WARS!

You don't fucking know.

I figure if they're right I'm simply not in the fight, I'm a NAP man now.  Just like the Bible... If the old testament god is GOD...  I'm not his man. (yes, this is very relevant to how I feel about people who choose to be his man).


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I repeat my assertion that environment is a more likely cause than biology for group behavior.

You keep saying more likely.....  can I get a yes or no?


So can biochemical reactions be subject to genetics?


So can biochemical reactions be subject to genetics?


So can biochemical reactions be subject to genetics?



When you do things you wouldn't normally do w/o the chance of having sex, is that your brain or your mind (those are acceptable words?  brain vs. mind?)?
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Re: Racism
« Reply #77 on: August 10, 2011, 07:38:16 PM »

If there are no races, then there can be no racists.

Viola!






......and then some people around here can start apologizing for the witchhunt

Ain't likely, the mental trophy for snagging the witch is to be cherished.

I had to stop reading the Ecolitan/MacFall debate because it's just too much to read. But I have a question that hopefully will get addressed...

What's the end result? Lets suppose racism is finally vanquished, what is the end result? Socially & culturally, what real impacts can we look forward to?
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Re: Racism
« Reply #78 on: August 10, 2011, 07:55:19 PM »

What's the end result? Lets suppose racism is finally vanquished, what is the end result? Socially & culturally, what real impacts can we look forward to?

I have no agenda.  Most of the time when I get into something like this it's merely to point out that X is not true.

Someone said X.  X isn't true.  Truth is my agenda.  I don't go around thinking about race and racism.  It's not a big deal for me.

I'm not trying to find a racist, no witchhunt here.  I'll gladly volunteer to BE the racist, I gave plenty of ammunition for that.  I went out of my way to provide ammunition for that.

I think that Macfall believes in normal stereotypes and needs dearly to adopt a philosophy that means he can have those stereotypes and it not be labeled as racist.  I think he's SOL.  If I have an agenda it's to create an environment where Macfall doesn't have to feel guilty for being who he is and can grow to be more honest with himself and the world as a result.


But to stay on point......

All this bullshit about it is impossible for men/women white/black greeneye/blueeye to also have other genetic traits that tend towards appearing in tandem with those other traits that might effect brain chemistry and function (thoughts/behavior) is completely rediculous.

If black people can have a higher chance of sickle cell anemia they can also have a higher chance of (insert genetically influenced personality trait here).  Maybe they don't.  But no one knows.  It might be knowable, but currently no one knows.  Anyone who says they do is a moron or a liar.

AND men/women absolutely positively without a doubt have scientifically measurable differences in body chemistry that is known to influence behavior PERIOD.  Sure there are exceptions, but there's also a rule.  Stephanie is a complete fucking imbecile if she doesn't recognize that and therefore everything she ever says that can't be independently verified is useless.  She can only come to a correct conclusion by accident cuz she's blinded by her silly dogma.
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Re: Racism
« Reply #79 on: August 10, 2011, 08:39:53 PM »

What's the end result? Lets suppose racism is finally vanquished, what is the end result? Socially & culturally, what real impacts can we look forward to?
I think that Macfall believes in normal stereotypes and needs dearly to adopt a philosophy that means he can have those stereotypes and it not be labeled as racist.  I think he's SOL.  If I have an agenda it's to create an environment where Macfall doesn't have to feel guilty for being who he is and can grow to be more honest with himself and the world as a result.

I think you may be right about that. If it doesn't apply to MacFall it surely does fit someone somewhere.

You've never come across as racist to me and nothing I wrote was directed at you. The debate of whether or not races exist is pointless. It doesn't affect the outcome of social behavior based on differences in appearance and/or culture.
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« Reply #80 on: August 10, 2011, 08:48:55 PM »

What's the end result? Lets suppose racism is finally vanquished, what is the end result? Socially & culturally, what real impacts can we look forward to?
I think that Macfall believes in normal stereotypes and needs dearly to adopt a philosophy that means he can have those stereotypes and it not be labeled as racist.  I think he's SOL.  If I have an agenda it's to create an environment where Macfall doesn't have to feel guilty for being who he is and can grow to be more honest with himself and the world as a result.

I think you may be right about that. If it doesn't apply to MacFall it surely does fit someone somewhere.

You've never come across as racist to me and nothing I wrote was directed at you. The debate of whether or not races exist is pointless. It doesn't affect the outcome of social behavior based on differences in appearance and/or culture.

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone claim that race does not exist.  If believing that some racial stereotypes are true most of the time = racist than I AM.  Unless of course Macfall is right and they are cultural stereotypes because genetics related to race can never ever for any reason have any effect on thoughts and behavior whatsoever.  Then I'm a culturalist.  But THAT is the argument of a complete fucking moron.
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Re: Racism
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2011, 07:10:27 AM »



But to stay on point......



nigga......

THAT particular fuckin train done left the station long time ago.......
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Re: Racism
« Reply #82 on: August 12, 2011, 06:59:24 AM »


YOU FUCKING SAXON


no response, so
i'll put it another way


SAXON MY BIG RED CCOCK

(''why's it red, drag?'')

FROM SLAPPING YOUR MOTHER REPEATEDLY IN THE FUCKING FACE W/ IT
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Re: Racism
« Reply #83 on: August 12, 2011, 11:17:58 AM »

I was supposed to respond?  :(  I can not define saxon. 

Here's the response I'm looking for from Ol' boy that disappeared rather than answer simple yes,no questions cuz he fears the truth of what he has to say. 



So can biochemical reactions be subject to genetics?

When you do things you wouldn't normally do w/o the chance of having sex, is that your brain or your mind (those are acceptable words?  brain vs. mind?)?
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« Reply #84 on: August 12, 2011, 04:31:33 PM »

One of the most alarming repercussions, if it does in fact turn out that races do not exist, is that the entire porn world will have to find ways to reclassify the "Interracial" category of it's offerings.

On the topic of unanswered questions, what about mine? The end result of racism being done away with completely/what changes will result?
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Re: Racism
« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2011, 04:37:28 PM »

SAXON MY BIG RED COCK

YOU MEAN THIN AND PALE YOU SAXON FUCK.

GO EAT SOME BANGERS AND MASH HAGGIS WITH RUNNY CHEESE YOU DEGENERATE LOW END OF THE GENE POOL ONLY 3/4 HUMAN SAXON FILTH.
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« Reply #86 on: August 12, 2011, 07:44:42 PM »

One of the most alarming repercussions, if it does in fact turn out that races do not exist, is that the entire porn world will have to find ways to reclassify the "Interracial" category of it's offerings.

On the topic of unanswered questions, what about mine? The end result of racism being done away with completely/what changes will result?

I don't see it happening til we all fuck each other brown.  Comedians will have to be funnier.  People will more readily accept that very low income small-time thugs choose to be so?




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Re: Racism
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2011, 07:49:52 PM »

Wiggers.
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Re: Racism
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2011, 09:01:05 PM »

I was supposed to respond? 


MORON

note the QUOTED dickhole i responded to......
was it YOU?
no
it wasn't

please try to keep up mr. bond
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Re: Racism
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2011, 09:11:08 PM »

SAXON MY BIG RED COCK

YOU MEAN THIN AND PALE YOU SAXON FUCK.

GO EAT SOME BANGERS AND MASH HAGGIS WITH RUNNY CHEESE YOU DEGENERATE LOW END OF THE GENE POOL ONLY 3/4 HUMAN SAXON FILTH.

well shit......
you are the omnipresent oaf here.........with your curly shoes & bells on your hat,
YOU JABBA-THE-FUCKING-HUT, WANNA-BE ''MOVIE DIRECTOR''  ****sorry.........coughing up fritos & red wine as i write this*********
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