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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: fatcat on October 16, 2009, 06:04:28 PM
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Some questions from someone alien to guns in general.
1. Is your gun usually within easy reach at home?
2. Is your gun usually kept loaded?
3. Do you usually take your gun with you when you leave the house?
If the answer to these questions is no, what purpose do you think owning a gun serves in self protection?
I find it arduous enough to keep my mobile phone and keys with me at all times, so given that you need to keep a gun close by in order for it to actually be useful as a self protection tool, I'm not sure I would even bother getting a gun if they were legal, except maybe just for sport shooting.
And a more general question, why do you own a gun?
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Yes. Yes. Yes.
#1 reason I own a gun is hunting. Second reason is self defense.
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Some questions from someone alien to guns in general.
1. Is your gun usually within easy reach at home?
2. Is your gun usually kept loaded?
3. Do you usually take your gun with you when you leave the house?
And a more general question, why do you own a gun?
1. I have a handgun next to my bed and a handgun in my work desk.
2. The gun next to my bed and the one in the desk are loaded. THe other 8 aren't. They're locked up in my closet
3. Nope. I live in California and they;re not generally friendly to that sort of thing. One COULD legally carry an unloaded handgun openly in my city ( http://caopencarry.blogspot.com/ ) but I don't feeling like being harrassed by cops. Also our county issues concealed carry permits to people with business liscences but I don't have one. So I go out gunless.
4. I own guns for home protection and for fun. I enjoy shooting paper targets and cans out in the desert. Has nothing to do with macho stuff, I just like it. People have asked me "Have you ever needed to use your gun to protect yourself? Do you REALLY need a gun?"
I usually say "No, But I've also never had to use my fire extinguisher or the airbags on my car either. I think you know where I'm going with this..."
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No.
If the answer to these questions is no, what purpose do you think owning a gun serves in self protection?
A gun may help someone protect their body and more.
And a more general question, why do you own a gun?
In case I feel I need a gun for protection of my body and more.
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I feel a debate coming.
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I feel the same way about cell phones and keys and often don't carry for that reason. It's not difficult to remember to put the .357 in the drawer by the bed when that's where it always lives. Or the shotgun in the pantry...
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Yes. Yes. No.
I hardly ever carry a cell phone, but I always have 2-3 knives on me. I can open carry a knife at work, even with a no weapons policy.
Guns make too much noise.
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My gun is either here:
(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6012/1911cb.jpg)
Or here:
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4787/minid.jpg)
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I keep a K-Bar on at work, I have 2 collapsible steel batons in my car (highly illegal in Illinois for some reason) and my .45 on he side of my bed in the space between the mattress and the frame. They are strictly for protection. like he said with airbags...I have them but I pray I never have to use them.
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Guns are for robots.
Full-body nanotech armor is for humans.
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Some questions from someone alien to guns in general.
1. Is your gun usually within easy reach at home?
2. Is your gun usually kept loaded?
3. Do you usually take your gun with you when you leave the house?
And a more general question, why do you own a gun?
1. I have a handgun next to my bed and a handgun in my work desk.
2. The gun next to my bed and the one in the desk are loaded. THe other 8 aren't. They're locked up in my closet
3. Nope. I live in California and they;re not generally friendly to that sort of thing. One COULD legally carry an unloaded handgun openly in my city ( http://caopencarry.blogspot.com/ ) but I don't feeling like being harrassed by cops. Also our county issues concealed carry permits to people with business liscences but I don't have one. So I go out gunless.
4. I own guns for home protection and for fun. I enjoy shooting paper targets and cans out in the desert. Has nothing to do with macho stuff, I just like it. People have asked me "Have you ever needed to use your gun to protect yourself? Do you REALLY need a gun?"
I usually say "No, But I've also never had to use my fire extinguisher or the airbags on my car either. I think you know where I'm going with this..."
I'm the same way.
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Nope because certain CA Sherriffs are douchebags who do not approve of issuing CCW's to normal citizens.
I haven't open carried (except for in the desert on BLM land and loaded) but I have been considering joining Escondido Open Carry (http://www.escondido-open-carry.org/) for an event because they seem to have their shit together.
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No.
If the answer to these questions is no, what purpose do you think owning a gun serves in self protection?
A gun may help someone protect their body and more.
And a more general question, why do you own a gun?
In case I feel I need a gun for protection of my body and more.
What I was getting at was, if you're not keeping a loaded gun pretty close to your person, then its not actually useful as a tool for self defense.
Much like if you had a fire extinguisher in your attic, it wouldn't be much good if you wake up to the smell of smoke. How quick can you find and load a gun if you're woken up in the middle of the night in a house invasion scenario?
As a rule you generally don't know when your life is going to be in danger from other people, and since the instances that happens are so rare, it seems like you'd have to keep a pretty religious level of gun carrying to make sure you had a gun when you needed, which I'm not sure is worth the effort considering they're fairly bulky compared to a wallet/mobile.
Guns for home defense seems a lot easier to manage, although I'm not sure whether you're more likely to need a gun at home or on the street.
I think theres probably situations in my life where a gun would come in handy. I'm just not sure it would be worth the effort of carrying it around unless I do so 100% of the time, and being from the UK I still have some residual gun-phobia, where I think I'd be in more danger of shooting myself/someone else accidentally than actually needing to use it in self defense.
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I know where it is, and you don't.
And yes, its loaded. With hi-power hollowpoints.
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I don't have a gun on me for self-defense because I don't expect to ever need to defend myself. I haven't really ever needed to and I don't expect that to change in the next 20 years. If I did, I'd likely be more than capable of doing so, without a gun. Keep in mind I live in NH and I don't travel without something that could be used as a weapon.
I'd be insanely shocked if someone broke into my house while someone was at the house (and there is almost always someone at my house). I live in Keene where guns are very common, home break-ins in decent areas are rare, and the cops respond quickly to emergencies (unlocked doors is the default in the area).
However, maybe some day I'll want to use a gun. I have one just in case.
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We have loaded guns readily accessible (but not generally visible) in most rooms in the house.
Why? Boyfriend likes guns. All of them but one are his. Mine I keep in my desk drawer, so it's about five inches from my hand as I type this. When I'm a bit more flush I hope to get a .45, and I guess the .380 will be stored someplace else.
Why? Well, because we can, and because a few years ago some guys followed some friends of mine up the stairs to that friend's place and held them all at gunpoint while stealing their cash and jewelry, and molesting the girl. That was about two miles from where I lived at the time, alone. I got the .380 pretty quickly after that, as well as some reading material and some lessons at the range. I don't have a conceal carry permit, though, and I don't take my gun out with me.
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1. Is your gun usually within easy reach at home?
Often I carry my revolver in my pocket while at home (it's an S&W J-frame, so quite small). When this isn't the case, the 12 gauge shotgun is in the (apartment) bedroom one small hallway away, but not sure if I'd qualify that as within 'easy' reach.
2. Is your gun usually kept loaded?
Yes, most definitely. That way they're useful.
3. Do you usually take your gun with you when you leave the house?
If I'm pretty sure I won't be visiting government-declared gun-free zones (e.g., a government school), definitely.
And a more general question, why do you own a gun?
Personal/home defense.
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Some questions from someone alien to guns in general.
1. Is your gun usually within easy reach at home?
2. Is your gun usually kept loaded?
3. Do you usually take your gun with you when you leave the house?
4. Where do you live?
5.When do you sleep?
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Some questions from someone alien to guns in general.
1. Is your gun usually within easy reach at home?
2. Is your gun usually kept loaded?
3. Do you usually take your gun with you when you leave the house?
4. Where do you live?
5.When do you sleep?
If anyone is that paranoid, they shouldn't be leaving enough personal information on the net that I'd anyone would be able to find out who they are from a forum account.
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And a more general question, why do you own a gun?
You never know when you will need to commit suicide.
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Some questions from someone alien to guns in general.
1. Is your gun usually within easy reach at home?
2. Is your gun usually kept loaded?
3. Do you usually take your gun with you when you leave the house?
If the answer to these questions is no, what purpose do you think owning a gun serves in self protection?
I find it arduous enough to keep my mobile phone and keys with me at all times, so given that you need to keep a gun close by in order for it to actually be useful as a self protection tool, I'm not sure I would even bother getting a gun if they were legal, except maybe just for sport shooting.
And a more general question, why do you own a gun?
1. yes 2. no 3. no
We have guns more for hunting and killing tree rats and such. Yesterday the first day of hunting my husband got an excellent fat old doe. The 8 point buck was out of range and he wanted to ad to our meat supply. We are in the process of butchering it. I will make chillies, stews and roasts with the meat. Have you seen how much beef is per pound? Deer meat is a much better source of protein. I also like to shoot targets and clay pigons for sport.
I suppose if the crime rate were to increase, we would start keeping the guns in a more ready to use state than locked away.
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1. Is your guns usually within easy reach at home?
Added an "S" for plurality. The answer is yes.
2. Is Are your guns usually kept loaded?
The five or so I have around the house for home defense are. The rest are in a safe, unloaded.
3. Do you usually take your a gun with you when you leave the house?
Yes.
4. And a more general question, why do you own a guns?
For the same reason I own screwdrivers, hammers, forks, spoons, knives, scissors, nail clippers, a computer etc. It's the tool that enables the most efficient way to perform a task.
Also, they fucking rock, (Enjoyable hobby) they look fucking sweet, (Aesthetics) and they are politically controversial, so I choose to own them as a political expression as well.
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Don't have one; don't want one.
For home protection, I'd want a really good gun. That would cost hundreds, and would only do me any good IF I happen to be home, and IF I happen to have time to access it. Plus, I'd have to know how to use the thing, which means the time and cost of classes and regular practice.
For that same amount of money, I can invest in a security system that works even if I'm not home. I can put in really good locks and alarms. Now, I know that someone dedicated enough can still get in, but the reality is that 99.9% of burglars are not going to go to that much trouble.
I have no interest in forever hauling a couple pounds of steel around with me for protection. I don't hang out in places where such protection is likely to be needed. Nor have I ever come close to needing a gun for protection, or know anyone who has. It just isn't worth it for so improbable a contingency.
It might be useful when I'm out camping, in case I encounter a bear. But, I do carry bear spray, which studies have shown to be more effective than a gun. Anyway, I don't really want to kill or injure a bear. Face it--the gun would probably be more of a threat to me than the bear anyway.
The only valid reason I can see for owning a weapon would be civil unrest or disaster, such as happened New Orleans. But, getting a gun for that possibility makes as much sense to me as digging a bomb shelter in case there is a nuclear war.
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Mines is no no no, I carry knives with me everywhere and i have a crossbow near my bed LoL, my pistol is black powder, and I heard they can go off by themselves so i don't keep it loaded. anyone know if it is true?
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I have throwing knives and other small knives. Thats about it. I am looking into getting a gun soon enough, but my gal won't get me one for christmas she says :(
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my pistol is black powder, and I heard they can go off by themselves so i don't keep it loaded. anyone know if it is true?
No. You can even keep it capped if you have indents between the cylinder. Comon, people carried this shit loaded on horses, and you're worried about your nightstand?
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Some questions from someone alien to guns in general.
1. Is your gun usually within easy reach at home?
2. Is your gun usually kept loaded?
3. Do you usually take your gun with you when you leave the house?
4. Where do you live?
5.When do you sleep?
If anyone is that paranoid, they shouldn't be leaving enough personal information on the net that I'd anyone would be able to find out who they are from a forum account.
Dude, chill. There's this thing people do called humor.
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I don't have a gun on me for self-defense because I don't expect to ever need to defend myself. I haven't really ever needed to and I don't expect that to change in the next 20 years. If I did, I'd likely be more than capable of doing so, without a gun. Keep in mind I live in NH and I don't travel without something that could be used as a weapon.
I'd be insanely shocked if someone broke into my house while someone was at the house (and there is almost always someone at my house). I live in Keene where guns are very common, home break-ins in decent areas are rare, and the cops respond quickly to emergencies (unlocked doors is the default in the area).
However, maybe some day I'll want to use a gun. I have one just in case.
1: dumbest fucking answer ever.
do you have fire insurance on your house/car?
if so, why???
are you planning on having a fire??
2: where the FUCK have you been?
next town over from mine is still reeling (we all are) from this fucking nightmare:
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091006/NEWSBLOG/910069945
4 scumbags broke into a rural home at 4 a.m. & hacked a 42 yr old wife/mother to death in HER FUCKING BED....WITH A MACHETE.
& tried to kill their 11 yr. old daughter...
fatcat, does this answer your question?
also: i always had loaded guns around, till we had a kid.
i just bought a big-ass cannon gun safe....its in the basement.
http://www.cannonsafe.com/images/traditionalsafes/Traditional43.jpg
which does me no fuckin good, so i gotta get a pistol safe for the bedroom.
i carry a .380 in the truck & have guns at my office
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my pistol is black powder, and I heard they can go off by themselves so i don't keep it loaded. anyone know if it is true?
No. You can even keep it capped if you have indents between the cylinder. Comon, people carried this shit loaded on horses, and you're worried about your nightstand?
BJ is correct. People are still digging loaded black powder rifles out of their barns that have been loaded for 100+ years and finding that the BP is still burnable.
While true BP is more volatile and risky than smokeless, modern BP substitutes are safer, and either way they are not going to spontaneously combust.
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I have no interest in forever hauling a couple pounds of steel around with me for protection.
This is my main reserve about getting a gun for defensive purposes should they be made legal/i move somewhere they are legal.
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I have no interest in forever hauling a couple pounds of steel around with me for protection.
This is my main reserve about getting a gun for defensive purposes should they be made legal/i move somewhere they are legal.
They make lightweight guns for women that I'm sure you'd be happy with.
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my pistol is black powder, and I heard they can go off by themselves so i don't keep it loaded. anyone know if it is true?
No. You can even keep it capped if you have indents between the cylinder. Comon, people carried this shit loaded on horses, and you're worried about your nightstand?
a lotta guys kept 1 cylinder empty, for horseriding & jostling about, thereby, no misfires
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my pistol is black powder, and I heard they can go off by themselves so i don't keep it loaded. anyone know if it is true?
No. You can even keep it capped if you have indents between the cylinder. Comon, people carried this shit loaded on horses, and you're worried about your nightstand?
a lotta guys kept 1 cylinder empty, for horseriding & jostling about, thereby, no misfires
You had to do it on the old style Colts, but the New Army 1858 Remington has notches in the cylinder so you can keep all 6 loaded.
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I have no interest in forever hauling a couple pounds of steel around with me for protection.
This is my main reserve about getting a gun for defensive purposes should they be made legal/i move somewhere they are legal.
They make lightweight guns for women that I'm sure you'd be happy with.
its the bulk, not the weight.
If they make a gun that can fit in my wallet (and still be useful) I don't think it would be a problem.
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:|
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If they make a gun that can fit in my wallet (and still be useful) I don't think it would be a problem.
that'd be a might fag of a gun, now, woodenit?
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You might as well carry a razor blade.
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mebbe fatcat (being in brit-land, an all) knows some sort of desmond lewellan ''Q''-type character over there, who has developed a walther ppk wallet gun...
...''now pay attention, double-Oh-fatcat''
do try to return the aston martin in one piece
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I have no interest in forever hauling a couple pounds of steel around with me for protection.
This is my main reserve about getting a gun for defensive purposes should they be made legal/i move somewhere they are legal.
They make lightweight guns for women that I'm sure you'd be happy with.
ZING
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If you're going to carry a gun for protection, I'd assume you want something that's actually going to do the job, not something so lightweight it'll only annoy the person you shoot.
In any case, I just don't want to shoot anyone. They can have the wallet, and what little is inside it. I'm not too worried at home. They won't get into the house.
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If you look how big mobile phones where 20 years ago, I don't think anyone would buy one that big nowadays because of the hassle it would involve. Would you rather have a "womans" cell phone? Or a manly one the size of a brick (http://jamericanmuslimah.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/old_cellphone.jpg). I'm guessing with modern batteries, one of those old phones could probably go years without a recharge. Plus you could probably do some damage if you threw it at someone.
Its pretty short sighted to believe the only useful method of self protection there's ever gonna be is in the form of big lump of metal/polymer where lead comes out of the end.
Here's the kind of thing i would be interested in, except its not really that useful since when its folded up its bigger than alot of pistols already.
[youtube=425,350]D99NHb6B03s[/youtube]
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too right old boy
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http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/
9mm
http://www.seecamp.com/products.htm
.380
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/p3at.htm
.380
Sheesh. And you can buy a variety of pocket holsters for them that look exactly like a wallet.
Here's one:
http://unclegeorgeswalletholster.com/default.aspx
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hey, I haven't even met a person who's seen a gun, im allowed to be broadly ignorant about guns.
thanks for the info John.
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im allowed to be broadly ignorant about guns.
I said "sheesh" rather than "Google It!" so as to look like slightly less of a jerk about it.
The point is, is that there is a whole market for small carry guns. Look for "Carry" and "Subcompact"
Don't bother with anything smaller than .380 - And for me personally, .380 is still a little anemic.
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Don't bother with anything smaller than .380 - And for me personally, .380 is still a little anemic.
True....I can't wait to get a .45. Although I do still want a Derringer, because they're cute-- maybe one of these (http://www.amderringer.com/catalog4.html).
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In any case, I just don't want to shoot anyone. They can have the wallet, and what little is inside it. I'm not too worried at home. They won't get into the house.
Oh man, you live in one them "compounds" they love to talk about in the MSM don't you?
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Don't bother with anything smaller than .380 - And for me personally, .380 is still a little anemic.
True....I can't wait to get a .45. Although I do still want a Derringer, because they're cute-- maybe one of these (http://www.amderringer.com/catalog4.html).
Do they have a replica Lincoln model?
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I answer all those questions with yes. It's really just a matter of how you carry it. For instance, not only do I keep my Gun on me, but I also keep these on me as well.
Dramamine, Cold Pack, Roller Gauge 2&4in, Band aids, scissors, tylonol, psuedofedrine, Prep pads, Sunscreen, triangular bandage, Butterfly closures, 4x4 bandages, one-time neosporine, Potable water, lip balm, Blod-clot, Large bandage, .45 caliber handgun, 3 magazines, 39 rounds hyrda shock, mace, Leather man, Utility knife, tweezers, laser pointer, zip ties, duct tape, scanner, Cellphone, Pencil and notepad, personal phone directory, business cards, Pocket constitution state and Federal, Video Camera, Phone numbers for legal advice, Lunch bag, water bottle, sleepover tooth brushes mouthwash, floss, cologne, hotel soap bar, ziploc bags, trash bag, Interesting book, Notebook, Pen and pencil, Ref Book, Computer, charger with 120/12v for laptop, cellphones and scanner, Flashdrive, Fire starter, compass, lighter, condoms.
on computer
encryption, DnD books, textbooks, maps, dictionary, thesaurus, MLA style guide, Field Manual, Skeptoid, History books, Biographical encyclopedia, CIA world fact book, Cognitive tools, Chat software, IRC, Wardriving, Bluetooth, Bittorent, python, Encrypted passwords for every website I visit on flashdrive
So it's all just a matter of having the right gear for the right job.
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I answer all those questions with yes. It's really just a matter of how you carry it. For instance, not only do I keep my Gun on me, but I also keep these on me as well.
Dramamine, Cold Pack, Roller Gauge 2&4in, Band aids, scissors, tylonol, psuedofedrine, Prep pads, Sunscreen, triangular bandage, Butterfly closures, 4x4 bandages, one-time neosporine, Potable water, lip balm, Blod-clot, Large bandage, .45 caliber handgun, 3 magazines, 39 rounds hyrda shock, mace, Leather man, Utility knife, tweezers, laser pointer, zip ties, duct tape, scanner, Cellphone, Pencil and notepad, personal phone directory, business cards, Pocket constitution state and Federal, Video Camera, Phone numbers for legal advice, Lunch bag, water bottle, sleepover tooth brushes mouthwash, floss, cologne, hotel soap bar, ziploc bags, trash bag, Interesting book, Notebook, Pen and pencil, Ref Book, Computer, charger with 120/12v for laptop, cellphones and scanner, Flashdrive, Fire starter, compass, lighter, condoms.
on computer
encryption, DnD books, textbooks, maps, dictionary, thesaurus, MLA style guide, Field Manual, Skeptoid, History books, Biographical encyclopedia, CIA world fact book, Cognitive tools, Chat software, IRC, Wardriving, Bluetooth, Bittorent, python, Encrypted passwords for every website I visit on flashdrive
So it's all just a matter of having the right gear for the right job.
Or enough gear for any job.
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I answer all those questions with yes. It's really just a matter of how you carry it. For instance, not only do I keep my Gun on me, but I also keep these on me as well.
Dramamine, Cold Pack, Roller Gauge 2&4in, Band aids, scissors, tylonol, psuedofedrine, Prep pads, Sunscreen, triangular bandage, Butterfly closures, 4x4 bandages, one-time neosporine, Potable water, lip balm, Blod-clot, Large bandage, .45 caliber handgun, 3 magazines, 39 rounds hyrda shock, mace, Leather man, Utility knife, tweezers, laser pointer, zip ties, duct tape, scanner, Cellphone, Pencil and notepad, personal phone directory, business cards, Pocket constitution state and Federal, Video Camera, Phone numbers for legal advice, Lunch bag, water bottle, sleepover tooth brushes mouthwash, floss, cologne, hotel soap bar, ziploc bags, trash bag, Interesting book, Notebook, Pen and pencil, Ref Book, Computer, charger with 120/12v for laptop, cellphones and scanner, Flashdrive, Fire starter, compass, lighter, condoms.
on computer
encryption, DnD books, textbooks, maps, dictionary, thesaurus, MLA style guide, Field Manual, Skeptoid, History books, Biographical encyclopedia, CIA world fact book, Cognitive tools, Chat software, IRC, Wardriving, Bluetooth, Bittorent, python, Encrypted passwords for every website I visit on flashdrive
So it's all just a matter of having the right gear for the right job.
Or enough gear for any job.
Yeah and there are other things that I keep in seperate molle pouches that can be attached. Like smoke bombs, and flash bangs for TEOTWAWKI
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I answer all those questions with yes. It's really just a matter of how you carry it. For instance, not only do I keep my Gun on me, but I also keep these on me as well.
Dramamine, Cold Pack, Roller Gauge 2&4in, Band aids, scissors, tylonol, psuedofedrine, Prep pads, Sunscreen, triangular bandage, Butterfly closures, 4x4 bandages, one-time neosporine, Potable water, lip balm, Blod-clot, Large bandage, .45 caliber handgun, 3 magazines, 39 rounds hyrda shock, mace, Leather man, Utility knife, tweezers, laser pointer, zip ties, duct tape, scanner, Cellphone, Pencil and notepad, personal phone directory, business cards, Pocket constitution state and Federal, Video Camera, Phone numbers for legal advice, Lunch bag, water bottle, sleepover tooth brushes mouthwash, floss, cologne, hotel soap bar, ziploc bags, trash bag, Interesting book, Notebook, Pen and pencil, Ref Book, Computer, charger with 120/12v for laptop, cellphones and scanner, Flashdrive, Fire starter, compass, lighter, condoms.
Most excessive preparedness award goes to...
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Yep, I am ready for it all.
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Yep, I am ready for it all.
I guess you'll come in handy when the zombie apocalypse finally happens.
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I answer all those questions with yes. It's really just a matter of how you carry it. For instance, not only do I keep my Gun on me, but I also keep these on me as well.
Dramamine, Cold Pack, Roller Gauge 2&4in, Band aids, scissors, tylonol, psuedofedrine, Prep pads, Sunscreen, triangular bandage, Butterfly closures, 4x4 bandages, one-time neosporine, Potable water, lip balm, Blod-clot, Large bandage, .45 caliber handgun, 3 magazines, 39 rounds hyrda shock, mace, Leather man, Utility knife, tweezers, laser pointer, zip ties, duct tape, scanner, Cellphone, Pencil and notepad, personal phone directory, business cards, Pocket constitution state and Federal, Video Camera, Phone numbers for legal advice, Lunch bag, water bottle, sleepover tooth brushes mouthwash, floss, cologne, hotel soap bar, ziploc bags, trash bag, Interesting book, Notebook, Pen and pencil, Ref Book, Computer, charger with 120/12v for laptop, cellphones and scanner, Flashdrive, Fire starter, compass, lighter, condoms.
on computer
encryption, DnD books, textbooks, maps, dictionary, thesaurus, MLA style guide, Field Manual, Skeptoid, History books, Biographical encyclopedia, CIA world fact book, Cognitive tools, Chat software, IRC, Wardriving, Bluetooth, Bittorent, python, Encrypted passwords for every website I visit on flashdrive
So it's all just a matter of having the right gear for the right job.
jesus christ......must be tough to get around...
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smoke bombs
WTF? You plan on signaling aircraft or some shit?
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http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/105484-think-ya-used-bit-too-much-powder-butch.html
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smoke bombs
WTF? You plan on signaling aircraft or some shit?
Well it has a variety of uses. For instance say your at the mall and you see your ex-girlfriend who was real clingy and neurotic. You simply determine her line of sight from where you need to escape, pop some smoke let it build and then cross. You could also use it to signal aircraft. Or pop it next to a spot you want blown into oblivion from the air.
Also, weight was a factor when I thought it out, it's in a comfortable bag and is not that heavy. My gun is carried in a concealed holster with the extra clips in the bag.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MOLLE004-1.html
This bag has a strap that goes around my waist and pins it behind me which makes it really comfortable.