Nut crashes stolen plane into IRS building in TX

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I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

[The ghost of a ghost of a ghost]

I have a friend that's a tax appraiser in Arlington, Va. (D.C.)  He sent me a text after the plane crash and said he should get hazard pay for the dangers inherent in his job.

His joke points out that he, like other tax villians (IRS agents) know the evils of their ways, but do it nonetheless for a fucking PAYCHECK.   

I don't think you have to do a whole hell of a lot of mental gymnastics to see taxers as the original aggressors. 

That being said, I would never perform or condone such an action.

My uncle works for the IRS, and I approve of this message.  

Do y'all tell these people how evil they are?

I do.  He thinks it funny.  We were roommates in college.

I doubt I would  befriend him now, knowing that he's a tax man, if we hadn't already established a friendship prior.  

He's human, just all kinds of fucking wrong.  

I have my faults too.

[blackie]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

[ForumTroll]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

It's a real pickle, isn't it.

[The ghost of a ghost of a ghost]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

I think the payers could claim duress.  

[Cognitive Dissident]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

I think the payers could claim duress.  

Damned straight they're under duress!  If you've been filing and you stop, they'll be at your door eventually, and any appearance of civility will be merely pretense on their part.

[blackie]

To the libertarians calling this "terrorism:" Terrorism involves killing innocents.  Whether you support it or not, this was not terrorism.

Terrorism doesn't need to invovle innocents. This seems to fit most definitions of terrorism perfectly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.[1] At present, there is no internationally agreed definition of terrorism.[2][3] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians).

IRS office workers are not combatants. They are civilians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian

A civilian under international humanitarian law is a person who is not a member of his or her country's armed forces. The term is also often used colloquially to refer to people who are not members of a particular profession or occupation, especially by law enforcement agencies, which often use rank structures similar to those of military units.

1) Wikipedia is statist shit.

2) Did it ever occur to you that statists would want to confuse the difference between terrorism and guerilla warfare?  Think about the people who this government recognizes as the "the founders."  Think about how difficult it is to objectively view them in a good light, given their definitions.

3) Calling tax-eating state thugs "civilians," and more specifically the ones who are actively stealing said taxes, is a copout that only a statist could ignore.  Referencing "law" to resolve such a question is idiocy.

BTW: There was no coercion in his action.  His was a response to coercion.

[blackie]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

I think the payers could claim duress.  

Damned straight they're under duress!  If you've been filing and you stop, they'll be at your door eventually.

Oh, the "just following orders" defense.

[Cognitive Dissident]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

I think the payers could claim duress.  

Damned straight they're under duress!  If you've been filing and you stop, they'll be at your door eventually.

Oh, the "just following orders" defense.

Being the victim of armed robbery ≠ being a Nazi prison guard.

[blackie]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

It's a real pickle, isn't it.

It sucks that I am a part of the problem.

[Cognitive Dissident]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

I think the payers could claim duress.  

Damned straight they're under duress!  If you've been filing and you stop, they'll be at your door eventually.

Oh, the "just following orders" defense.

Being the victim of armed robbery ≠ being a Nazi prison guard.

What do you think would happen to the Nazi prison guard who doesn't follow orders?

Maybe he shouldn't have volunteered.  Further, at the point of murder in imprisonment of random Jews, I'd think he should have re-evaluated his options.  I'd like to think I would have.

[blackie]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

I think the payers could claim duress.  

Damned straight they're under duress!  If you've been filing and you stop, they'll be at your door eventually.

Oh, the "just following orders" defense.

Being the victim of armed robbery ≠ being a Nazi prison guard.

What do you think would happen to the Nazi prison guard who doesn't follow orders?

Maybe he shouldn't have volunteered.  Further, at the point of murder in imprisonment of random Jews, I'd think he should have re-evaluated his options.  I'd like to think I would have.

And maybe taxpayers shouldn't volunteer for a job if they know their money will be used to fund evil stuff. And after the murder and imprisonment of random brown people around the world, you would think taxpayers would re-evalutate their options. But they don't. They just keep funding it.

[Cognitive Dissident]

I would just like to say that it is my belief that those who participates in the process of initiating force aren't innocent.

Then anyone who pays taxes isn't innocent. They fund it.

I think the payers could claim duress.  

Damned straight they're under duress!  If you've been filing and you stop, they'll be at your door eventually.

Oh, the "just following orders" defense.

Being the victim of armed robbery ≠ being a Nazi prison guard.

What do you think would happen to the Nazi prison guard who doesn't follow orders?

Maybe he shouldn't have volunteered.  Further, at the point of murder in imprisonment of random Jews, I'd think he should have re-evaluated his options.  I'd like to think I would have.

And maybe taxpayers shouldn't volunteer for a job if they know their money will be used to fund evil stuff. And after the murder and imprisonment of random brown people around the world, you would think taxpayers would re-evalutate their options. But they don't. They just keep funding it.

I didn't volunteer for anything.  I didn't even file until I was coerced.  You probably believe they "volunteer" because the fed call it voluntary.  Try producing wealth living with your assets seized.

[blackie]

 Try producing wealth living with your assets seized.

Hide your assets.

[The ghost of a ghost of a ghost]

Then you're just playing a tax version of the game "whack a mole".

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