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NH medical weed bill veto'd
« on: July 10, 2009, 04:07:36 PM »

http://nhcompassion.org/content/new_hampshire_patients_look_legislature_relief_gov_lynch_vetoes_medical_marijuana_bill

New Hampshire Patients Look to Legislature for Relief as Gov. Lynch Vetoes Medical Marijuana Bill
July 10th, 2009 | posted by matt

Bill Had Been Altered by Lawmakers to Address Governor's Specific Concerns
 
CONCORD, NEW HAMPSHIRE — New Hampshire Gov. John Lynch vetoed a bill to protect seriously ill patients from arrest for using doctor-recommended medical marijuana today, and patients are urging the legislature to override the veto.
 
     The bill, which had been tailored to address eight specific concerns expressed by Lynch last month, passed in the House in June, 232-108, and in the Senate, 14-10 – two votes shy of what would be required to override the governor's veto.
 
     "I'm disappointed that Governor Lynch did not meet with patients like me before deciding medical marijuana users should continue to risk arrest and jail to relieve their suffering," said Fremont resident Dennis Acton, a Republican cancer survivor who used medical marijuana to relieve nausea caused by radiation therapy in 1999. Acton appeared in a commercial earlier this month asking the governor to allow the bill to become law, available here: www.mpp.org/NHads. "I'm urging my fellow Republicans in the legislature to have the courage to stand up and override this veto."
 
     Matt Simon, executive director for NH Common Sense Marijuana Policy, vowed not to give up on New Hampshire patients.
 
     "Unlike Governor Lynch, the legislature has studied medical marijuana policy, listened to the stories of patients and the experience of physicians," Simon said. "They understand we have an obligation to protect our most vulnerable citizens, and I'm confident they will once again stand up for them and override this veto."
 
     A key change to the bill, as requested by the governor, involves removing a provision allowing patients or their caregivers to cultivate their own marijuana plants, as patients are permitted to do in all 13 states that currently protect medical marijuana patients from arrest. Instead, the amended bill allows for the creation of up to three nonprofit "compassion centers," which could legally cultivate medical marijuana and dispense it to qualified patients.
 
     "The bill the governor vetoed is probably the most tightly written and controlled medical marijuana bill in history," Simon said. "There is absolutely no doubt that it will provide patients the legal protection they need while ensuring we continue to maintain safe, drug-free communities. The time to pass this law is now."
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 05:12:23 PM »

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"The bill the governor vetoed is probably the most tightly written and controlled medical marijuana bill in history,"

taste that freedom.
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Re: NH medical weed bill veto'd
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 12:21:08 AM »

Does NH have state referendums.  Can the people bypass their Legislature like they did in California in NH?  I am not aware of the structure.  Funny now NH is surrounded by medical MJ states, good thing it is a small state you can just hope the border.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 01:19:17 AM »

Does NH have state referendums.  Can the people bypass their Legislature like they did in California in NH?  I am not aware of the structure.  Funny now NH is surrounded by medical MJ states, good thing it is a small state you can just hope the border.
The state referendums are also one of the reasons CA is so fucked up.  Every damn season 90% of the referendums up for popular vote are completely retarded socialist shit.
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Re: NH medical weed bill veto'd
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 01:38:39 AM »

I wonder if placing a provision in the bill that would make it effective only after passing a referendum would have made it more likely to pass.  I wonder how mush of this is the governor being afraid of looking like he is pro-marijuana.

Of course, the pressure from those whose existence is based on marijuana prohibition has to be the largest factor.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 03:14:58 AM »

HELLO!!! even if they pass a law for MEDICINAL marijuana what stops the feds from raiding them just like california? let alone they dont even have that passed and its supposed to be the FREE state.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 03:26:43 AM »

Does NH have state referendums.  Can the people bypass their Legislature like they did in California in NH?  I am not aware of the structure.  Funny now NH is surrounded by medical MJ states, good thing it is a small state you can just hop the border.
The state referendums are also one of the reasons CA is so fucked up.  Every damn season 90% of the referendums up for popular vote are completely retarded socialist shit.

Actually I can see that being a problem.  However, being represented ain't so great either.  The reason why pure democracies fail is because once the people realize they can vote to loot the treasury they usually do so. 

I suppose you could always declare war on the drug enforcers.  Reminds me of the song, "I fought the Law and the Law Won." 
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 03:35:37 AM »

Does NH have state referendums.  Can the people bypass their Legislature like they did in California in NH?  I am not aware of the structure.  Funny now NH is surrounded by medical MJ states, good thing it is a small state you can just hope the border.
The state referendums are also one of the reasons CA is so fucked up.  Every damn season 90% of the referendums up for popular vote are completely retarded socialist shit.

I love it when activists are collecting signatures outside of Trader Joes or Target in order to get a measure on the ballot. I take a minute to read the bill and what it claims it wants to accomplish then I explain to them why it is a really horrid idea and I hope it fails. Sometimes they try to persuade you to help get it on the ballot so "all the people can decide". I usually laugh and express how I do not want to give a mob of people the power to tax/control me.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 05:34:05 AM »

Does NH have state referendums.  Can the people bypass their Legislature like they did in California in NH?  I am not aware of the structure.  Funny now NH is surrounded by medical MJ states, good thing it is a small state you can just hop the border.
The state referendums are also one of the reasons CA is so fucked up.  Every damn season 90% of the referendums up for popular vote are completely retarded socialist shit.

Actually I can see that being a problem.  However, being represented ain't so great either.  The reason why pure democracies fail is because once the people realize they can vote to loot the treasury they usually do so. 

I suppose you could always declare war on the drug enforcers.  Reminds me of the song, "I fought the Law and the Law Won." 

Does NH have state referendums.  Can the people bypass their Legislature like they did in California in NH?  I am not aware of the structure.  Funny now NH is surrounded by medical MJ states, good thing it is a small state you can just hope the border.
The state referendums are also one of the reasons CA is so fucked up.  Every damn season 90% of the referendums up for popular vote are completely retarded socialist shit.

I love it when activists are collecting signatures outside of Trader Joes or Target in order to get a measure on the ballot. I take a minute to read the bill and what it claims it wants to accomplish then I explain to them why it is a really horrid idea and I hope it fails. Sometimes they try to persuade you to help get it on the ballot so "all the people can decide". I usually laugh and express how I do not want to give a mob of people the power to tax/control me.
Yep, and Yep.  I usually ignore them unless they have a pot leaf on display even though I don't partake in narcotics usage.  Typically these people are college students who actually get paid to sit around and register people for signatures around here.  Or they're the "Environment California" morons who all wear the same uniform (literally).  Or they're union members.

I think I've seen ONE referendum I was willing to sign.  I see these people nearly ever day before voting season starts.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 09:37:53 AM »

Does NH have state referendums. 
I'm pretty sure they don't, but you can do things like that at the town level with a warrant article.

This is the UN free zone one they have been trying to pass in Grafton for about 5 years:

"To see if the Town will pass an ordinance that shall be known as ‘The Grafton United Nations Free Zone Act’. The purpose of this Act is to establish the Town of Grafton, New Hampshire as a United Nations free zone in that the United Nations is prohibited within the Town limits and that citizens are sovereign from the jurisdiction of the United Nations. To maintain and preserve the Supreme Law of the Land as set forth in the Constitution for the State of New Hampshire, and for these United States of America to the benefit of the people of the Town of Grafton, to include, but not limited to, the freedom of speech, press, assembly and petition, and the right to bear arms, to trial by jury, to the privilege against self incrimination and to the common law writ of habeas corpus. To protect the citizens of the town of Grafton from taxation without representation, by forbidding the implementation within the town limits of any tax, levy, fee, assessment, surcharge, or any other financial imposition by the United Nations."
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 10:29:03 AM »

Does NH have state referendums.  Can the people bypass their Legislature like they did in California in NH?  I am not aware of the structure.  Funny now NH is surrounded by medical MJ states, good thing it is a small state you can just hope the border.
The state referendums are also one of the reasons CA is so fucked up.  Every damn season 90% of the referendums up for popular vote are completely retarded socialist shit.

I love it when activists are collecting signatures outside of Trader Joes or Target in order to get a measure on the ballot. I take a minute to read the bill and what it claims it wants to accomplish then I explain to them why it is a really horrid idea and I hope it fails. Sometimes they try to persuade you to help get it on the ballot so "all the people can decide". I usually laugh and express how I do not want to give a mob of people the power to tax/control me.

Dude, they don't care. They get paid per signature.
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Re: NH medical weed bill veto'd
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 01:20:55 PM »

NH sucks now.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 01:21:38 PM »

NH sucks now.

It's sad that you don't actually think that.
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