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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: Riddler on March 07, 2010, 03:57:39 PM
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the religion of peace at work, once again...
dumb christians worshipping the wrong god....
JOS, Nigeria – Rioters armed with machetes slaughtered more than 200 people overnight Sunday as religious violence flared anew between Christians and Muslims in central Nigeria, witnesses said. Hundreds of people fled their homes, fearing reprisal attacks.
The bodies of the dead — including many women and children — lined dusty streets in three mostly Christian villages south of the regional capital of Jos, local journalists and a civil rights group said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100307/ap_on_re_af/af_nigeria_violence
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Now if we could only get ALL the whackos of ALL religions to do this to each other on a larger scale, wow....................................... what a wonderful world :D
Can we just leave the women and children out of it?
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Typical group think. How many Jews did Christians kill? How many Muslims did Christians kill? How many Catholics were killed by Protestants? How many (insert group A) did (insert group B) kill? Various groups have been killing each other for centuries based on group think. Does it mean all the people agree with murdering others who are different from themselves or belong to another group? No individuals make choices. Usually all you have to do is follow the money to find the real reason for the murders and it has nothing to do with religion, race or gender. People use that as an excuse to kill for profit. Why else invade Iraq and setup foreign oil companies? There are many countries which don't hide their hate of Israel and are run by dictators. American officials are not planning to invade those countries and some are even considered favored trading partners. But go ahead I doubt logic or facts will shake your group think propaganda mind set.
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Typical group think. How many Jews did Christians kill? How many Muslims did Christians kill? How many Catholics were killed by Protestants? How many (insert group A) did (insert group B) kill? Various groups have been killing each other for centuries based on group think. Does it mean all the people agree with murdering others who are different from themselves or belong to another group? No individuals make choices. Usually all you have to do is follow the money to find the real reason for the murders and it has nothing to do with religion, race or gender. People use that as an excuse to kill for profit. Why else invade Iraq and setup foreign oil companies? There are many countries which don't hide their hate of Israel and are run by dictators. American officials are not planning to invade those countries and some are even considered favored trading partners. But go ahead I doubt logic or facts will shake your group think propaganda mind set.
you ARE a simple cunt, aren't you?
yes, all religious groups have perpetrated atrocities upon others....like in the 15-1600's.
...the rest of mankind has kinda outgrown the madness & barbaric tendencies, except that pesky islamic horde
and, yes, it IS about religion, big boy....where it concerns muslims vs. ''the west/ infidels...
just ask them...they say it loud & fucking clear.
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Christians and Jews had more time to secularize, plus neither group actually had a major backslide in terms of such secularization. Islam in the 1400s was quite like Christianity is today, but what happened was more or less one group of Islamic scholars (non-Aristotelians) had the other killed off or exiled. Ever since, Islamic scholarship has been stagnant. It's sad too, because if it wasn't for those Aristotelian Islamic scholars Europe would have never had a chance (as the Spanish kicked Moorish ass and stole a shit load of books which they couldn't read, but Byzantine diplomats (now refugees) could).
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Typical group think. How many Jews did Christians kill? How many Muslims did Christians kill? How many Catholics were killed by Protestants? How many (insert group A) did (insert group B) kill?
In what time frame? Seems to have been a while ago. We do know the victim count grew by 200 in today's attack. Over the decades, Group B and the other aggressors have become more civilized, more tolerant, inclusive, encouraging of diversity, etc. (to the extent that it is gag-worthy even).
Various groups have been killing each other for centuries based on group think. Does it mean all the people agree with murdering others who are different from themselves or belong to another group? No individuals make choices. Usually all you have to do is follow the money to find the real reason for the murders and it has nothing to do with religion, race or gender. People use that as an excuse to kill for profit. Why else invade Iraq and setup foreign oil companies? There are many countries which don't hide their hate of Israel and are run by dictators. American officials are not planning to invade those countries and some are even considered favored trading partners. But go ahead I doubt logic or facts will shake your group think propaganda mind set.
Got kinda lost in reading that last bit, but I think you're talking around the issue instead of addressing the core.
Currently there is one group of people with a common identifier notoriously known for violent aggression (aside from governments in general). Sidestepping the problem won't help anything. Yes, the US gov. is underhandedly profiting from war, reigning in the masses with the usual "Support Our Troops" method, etc. That's wrong, but so is militant Muslim aggression. As long as you're calling one group out, call the others as well.
The US does get some oil from Nigeria as wells as provide the country with tons of aid. The population is pretty much evenly split between Christians and Muslims, with clashes not uncommon. Their brand of Christianity is a peculiar one (still a'fearin' the ol witchcraft and whatnot) not like your Baptist church down on the corner. The Muslim share seems to be of the more rambunctious type that the headlines love to cover. Both groups are so far removed from me that I don't care much about them.
My beef with stories like the one in the link and the comments that they attract is the glossing over the details in both the stories and comments- on both sides. The Christian peeps will cry foul because there are dead Christians (would they speak up if a batch of Buddhists were the victims?), Muslims will say their group simply must have been provoked, as they are a religion of peace (says so in their little book). And then you have comments that don't address anything other than a third party or ancient history. Not picking on you liberylover, just saying that nothing comes of looking over the core issue. Crazy Muslims/crazy Afro-Christians clashing, neither group likely able to comprehend much about the political maneuvering behind the scenes.
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Christians and Jews had more time to secularize, plus neither group actually had a major backslide in terms of such secularization. Islam in the 1400s was quite like Christianity is today, but what happened was more or less one group of Islamic scholars (non-Aristotelians) had the other killed off or exiled. Ever since, Islamic scholarship has been stagnant. It's sad too, because if it wasn't for those Aristotelian Islamic scholars Europe would have never had a chance (as the Spanish kicked Moorish ass and stole a shit load of books which they couldn't read, but Byzantine diplomats (now refugees) could).
Their calender year reflects their age of progress.
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Christians and Jews had more time to secularize, plus neither group actually had a major backslide in terms of such secularization. Islam in the 1400s was quite like Christianity is today, but what happened was more or less one group of Islamic scholars (non-Aristotelians) had the other killed off or exiled. Ever since, Islamic scholarship has been stagnant. It's sad too, because if it wasn't for those Aristotelian Islamic scholars Europe would have never had a chance (as the Spanish kicked Moorish ass and stole a shit load of books which they couldn't read, but Byzantine diplomats (now refugees) could).
Their calender year reflects their age of progress.
oh, hey there diog...
this morning i took a big 'ol greasy shit & wiped my ass w/ several pages of the ''torah''.
have a good 1
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yes, all religious groups have perpetrated atrocities upon others....like in the 15-1600's.
Wow, you really don't know much history do you?
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Wow, you really don't know much history do you?
most christian atrocities occurred in the 1100-1700's (that latter being the burning of heretics & witches.)
other than modern day ireland, do tell me of current barbarism by christians.
the muslims have that market cornered, my friend.
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Wow, you really don't know much history do you?
most christian atrocities occurred in the 1100-1700's (that latter being the burning of heretics & witches.)
other than modern day ireland, do tell me of current barbarism by christians.
the muslims have that market cornered, my friend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Genocide
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Genocide
yeah, well it appears there was more going on here than religious persecution:
''The predominantly Bosniak area of Central Podrinje (the region around Srebrenica) had a primary strategic importance to Serbs, as without it there would be no territorial integrity within their new political entity of Republika Srpska.''
just so hapens these areas were occupied by, predominantly, muslims. (bosniaks)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Genocide
yeah, well it appears there was more going on here than religious persecution:
''The predominantly Bosniak area of Central Podrinje (the region around Srebrenica) had a primary strategic importance to Serbs, as without it there would be no territorial integrity within their new political entity of Republika Srpska.''
just so hapens these areas were occupied by, predominantly, muslims. (bosniaks)
Religious fervor is a common tactic used by those that wish to make a strategic move. There is no doubt that the grunt on the ground was whipped into a frenzy about them damn Muslims living over there. Just as you are now being manipulated to believe all Muslims are evil to further someone higher up the chains ambitions. Just like those religious suicide bombers are manipulated to further an agenda that has nothing to do with religion.
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yeah, well it appears there was more going on here than religious persecution:
''The predominantly Bosniak area of Central Podrinje (the region around Srebrenica) had a primary strategic importance to Serbs, as without it there would be no territorial integrity within their new political entity of Republika Srpska.''
just so hapens these areas were occupied by, predominantly, muslims. (bosniaks)
Religious fervor is a common tactic used by those that wish to make a strategic move. There is no doubt that the grunt on the ground was whipped into a frenzy about them damn Muslims living over there. Just as you are now being manipulated to believe all Muslims are evil to further someone higher up the chains ambitions. Just like those religious suicide bombers are manipulated to further an agenda that has nothing to do with religion.
You know its funny that patriotism is being used to combat Islam in Western democracies because they wouldn't be able to as easily get people to join the cause through religion. It also occurred to me that in advertisements, they use state patriotism to get people to buy stuff. Funny world we live in.
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Funny world we live in.
Gay funny, not haha funny.
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Wow, you really don't know much history do you?
most christian atrocities occurred in the 1100-1700's (that latter being the burning of heretics & witches.)
other than modern day ireland, do tell me of current barbarism by christians.
the muslims have that market cornered, my friend.
I think the Jews who died in the Holocaust would disagree. Hitler sponsored and attended a Passion Play every Easter in Germany. As much as Christians want to distance themselves from the murder and oppression of millions of Jews they can not because they did nothing to stop the slaughter. No the people who own the media have you thinking that Muslims have the market cornered.
Not since 1700's oh really what about Yugoslavia jackass? Serbs (Orthodox Christians), Croats (Catholics) and ethnic Albanians (Muslims) during the civil war which broke out after the break up of Yugoslavia in which the Serb forces were guilty of war crimes on a massive scale. Serbs in Bosnia freely committed genocide against Muslims. Bosnian Serbs operated under the local leadership of Radovan Karadzic, president of the illegitimate Bosnian Serb Republic. Karadzic had once told a group of journalists, "Serbs and Muslims are like cats and dogs. They cannot live together in peace. It is impossible."
http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm (http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/bosnia.htm) In the end of the conflict it was estimated 200,000 Muslim civilians had been systematically murdered. More than 20,000 were missing and feared dead, while 2,000,000 had become refugees. And again it was more about the property and power using religion as an excuse for the murder and theft. And even in this example some Christians actually created an alliance with the Muslims against other Christians. So not all Christians just like not all Muslims. I wouldn't want to be identified as a Christian if the only example of Christians were the Serbs played out night after night in the news.
We typically don't hear about the conflicts between Hindus and Muslims but they have been fighting for a long time and it isn't as simply as it is all the Muslims fault either. You are also ignoring the Chechnya which it could be argued is in the middle of a Muslim genocide. A genocide not perpetrated by Christians but by Atheistic Communist. It is more about oil money and power than philosophical or religious differences but those are thrown out as excuses. If Chechnya did not have oil I doubt Russia would be at war there any more than America would be in Iraq if it were not for the oil.
The Nigerian Muslims have as little to do with American Muslims. Than did my Baptist Grandmother had to do with Hitler even though both like a good Passion Play. To lump all people who identify themselves as Muslim as being fundamentalist nutjobs is just as stupid as lumping all Christians in with Serbian Christian nutjobs or Hitler. I don't even lump all Jews in with the Zionist. There are many Jews who don't agree with ethnic cleansing being perpetuated using their religion as an excuse.
For centuries the US vs THEM rallying cry has been used by those who seek to either profit from war or to maintain power.
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Yeah, I saw the headlines about the Muslims slaughtering the Christians. What I didn't know until today was that this was in retaliation for the Christians of the area attacking local Muslim villages and slaughtering the inhabitants.
And the beat goes on. Isn't religion wonderful?
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I can't decide which school of thought is dumber. Probably the Muslims.
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Not since 1700's oh really what about Yugoslavia jackass?
And again it was more about the property and power using religion as an excuse for the murder and theft.
It is more about oil money and power than philosophical or religious differences
1: you're grasping at straws here.
hitler?
hitler's & the 3rd reich's goal was to pave the way for their master race. not just jews were exterminated, but anyone w/ physical deformities, mental illness, homosexuals, etc.
i might have mentioned bosnia/serbs in an earlier post....and, using your quotes above;
it was more about the real estate....location, location, location....as it were.
you've done a great job contradicting yourself
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Not since 1700's oh really what about Yugoslavia jackass?
And again it was more about the property and power using religion as an excuse for the murder and theft.
It is more about oil money and power than philosophical or religious differences
1: you're grasping at straws here.
hitler?
hitler's & the 3rd reich's goal was to pave the way for their master race. not just jews were exterminated, but anyone w/ physical deformities, mental illness, homosexuals, etc.
i might have mentioned bosnia/serbs in an earlier post....and, using your quotes above;
it was more about the real estate....location, location, location....as it were.
you've done a great job contradicting yourself
You've done a great job of taking things out of context. In context what I said is religion or group identity is used as an excuse to gain real estate or power not just the religion you simple minded bigot. Hitler used group identity of which Christian was part of the master race identity even though that has been white washed. I am not grasping at straws you are the one doing that by posting the worst of a group then saying the entire group is that way.
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must you be such an obstinant twat?
the radical muslim, which at this point in time,(& since, say, the 70's), has been on an all-out religious throwdown against the ""INFIDEL", obviously is something YOU can't (or won't) get your head around.
shit, they even proclaim via ALL SORTS of media outlets, that their precious religion is precisely the reason for their ''jihad'' against the west & other religions, freely citing verses of the koran to back them up.
i see NO OTHER religion carrying on in this fashion.
you, on the other hand, are falling all over yourself, dredging up all sorts of christianity-based conspiracy theories, to back up specious claims of christians ''slaughtering'' poor muslims, willie-nillie...
peddle your papers elsewhere.
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must you be such an obstinant twat?
the radical muslim, which at this point in time,(& since, say, the 70's), has been on an all-out religious throwdown against the ""INFIDEL", obviously is something YOU can't (or won't) get your head around.
shit, they even proclaim via ALL SORTS of media outlets, that their precious religion is precisely the reason for their ''jihad'' against the west & other religions, freely citing verses of the koran to back them up.
i see NO OTHER religion carrying on in this fashion.
you, on the other hand, are falling all over yourself, dredging up all sorts of christianity-based conspiracy theories, to back up specious claims of christians ''slaughtering'' poor muslims, willie-nillie...
peddle your papers elsewhere.
Oh now it is RADICAL Muslims. Back peddle much there Luca? Isn't that the same thing as specifying the Christian Identity group after trying to attach their radicalism to the Christian faith in general? The Christian Identity group is a radical racist group who harbor some violent ideas. I actually agree Radical Muslims are using their religion out of context to justify their violent acts. Their radicalism differenciates them from the large number of peaceful Muslims. The country with the largest Muslim population in the world has never ever attacked the United States. Why, because for the most part the United States has no designs on their territory. Probably because they don't have oil. The West also hasn't been meddling in their country's politics either by re-instating or maintaining dictators over elected representatives.
Regardless of religion Nigeria has a notoriously corrupt government. The government in that country has stolen millions if not billions in foreign aid. Land disputes abound between people because the government is so corrupt. Religion is just being used to justify acquiring other people's property. What the Nigerian Muslims or Christians do to each other in Nigeria has less to do with religion and more to do with failure of predictable property rights.
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must you be such an obstinant twat?
the radical muslim, which at this point in time,(& since, say, the 70's), has been on an all-out religious throwdown against the ""INFIDEL", obviously is something YOU can't (or won't) get your head around.
shit, they even proclaim via ALL SORTS of media outlets, that their precious religion is precisely the reason for their ''jihad'' against the west & other religions, freely citing verses of the koran to back them up.
i see NO OTHER religion carrying on in this fashion.
you, on the other hand, are falling all over yourself, dredging up all sorts of christianity-based conspiracy theories, to back up specious claims of christians ''slaughtering'' poor muslims, willie-nillie...
peddle your papers elsewhere.
For some one that thinks highly of himself I am sorta surprised that you allow yourself to played like a tool.
Not to long ago some one posted a link to a documentary on the crazy christian group here in the states that prayed to Bush and had all sorts of violent sermons about killing muslims with cited bible versed to justify it. There are crazies on both sides. It just so happens you are being exposed to one side's crazies more than the other side to warp your view of the world. Wake up man. Stop being a tool.
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Talking shit and doing shit ain't the same.
Have those nutty Christians actually done anything?
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word.
i'm more concerned about the doers
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There but for the grace of God goes I.
It would not take much environmental conditions to turn current radical christians into muslim slaughtering lunatics. Crazy is crazy and to go from only talking the talk to walking the walk is a small step for a crazy hate filled person. The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
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Talking shit and doing shit ain't the same.
Have those nutty Christians actually done anything?
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
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Talking shit and doing shit ain't the same.
Have those nutty Christians actually done anything?
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
oh....here we fucking go.
of course, the fact that iraqis are slaughtering iraqis wholesale, takes a back seat to the big-bad americans
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Talking shit and doing shit ain't the same.
Have those nutty Christians actually done anything?
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Haven't met them all, but I assume not all enlistees are Christians.
There but for the grace of God goes I.
It would not take much environmental conditions to turn current radical christians into muslim slaughtering lunatics. Crazy is crazy and to go from only talking the talk to walking the walk is a small step for a crazy hate filled person. The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
The difference is completely relevant.
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Talking shit and doing shit ain't the same.
Have those nutty Christians actually done anything?
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Haven't met them all, but I assume not all enlistees are Christians.
The vast majority are.
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oh....here we fucking go.
of course, the fact that iraqis are slaughtering iraqis wholesale, takes a back seat to the big-bad americans
You sounded like a jew just then.
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Talking shit and doing shit ain't the same.
Have those nutty Christians actually done anything?
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Haven't met them all, but I assume not all enlistees are Christians.
The vast majority are.
..and the remainder haven't exactly had their arms twisted to participate, even those who are themselves Muslim.
Doesn't apply.
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There but for the grace of God goes I.
It would not take much environmental conditions to turn current radical christians into muslim slaughtering lunatics. Crazy is crazy and to go from only talking the talk to walking the walk is a small step for a crazy hate filled person. The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
The difference is completely relevant.
We will see.
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The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
yipee.
let's play the ''what-if'' game, shall we?
what if rabbits could shoot guns?
then dogs wouldn't fuck with them.
what if jews had balls & guns back in the 40's?
a lot less would have wound up in mass graves.
what if .....these crazy christians go crazy & start killing muslims?
*yawn*
meanwhile, back at the jihad-ranch........
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There but for the grace of God goes I.
It would not take much environmental conditions to turn current radical christians into muslim slaughtering lunatics. Crazy is crazy and to go from only talking the talk to walking the walk is a small step for a crazy hate filled person. The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
The difference is completely relevant.
We will see.
Dunno.. hope not, unless they've been pushed first.
But why spend time speculating and stretching for some alternate truth that equates the two groups when reality is right in front of you?
Person A: "Muslims are killing Christians. Like.. often. There are plenty of examples."
Person B: "Well Christians might start killing Muslims someday."
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There but for the grace of God goes I.
It would not take much environmental conditions to turn current radical christians into muslim slaughtering lunatics. Crazy is crazy and to go from only talking the talk to walking the walk is a small step for a crazy hate filled person. The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
The difference is completely relevant.
We will see.
Dunno.. hope not, unless they've been pushed first.
You mean kinda like those crazy muslims? Time to end the cycle. No one wins if it continues.
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The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
yipee.
let's play the ''what-if'' game, shall we?
Okay. What if you were not such easily manipulated tool?
I know the answer too. Fox would have one less viewer and Drudge would lose a regular reader.
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There but for the grace of God goes I.
It would not take much environmental conditions to turn current radical christians into muslim slaughtering lunatics. Crazy is crazy and to go from only talking the talk to walking the walk is a small step for a crazy hate filled person. The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
The difference is completely relevant.
We will see.
Dunno.. hope not, unless they've been pushed first.
You mean kinda like those crazy muslims? Time to end the cycle. No one wins if it continues.
Are you arguing that these actions are excusable because the government is corrupt or that their preferred leader hasn't yet been installed?
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News flash: Crazed religious zealots are crazy.
What is the point of this discussion? Is there something you propose to do about it?
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The diff between the two is irrelevant and merely boils down to varying degrees of desperation.
yipee.
let's play the ''what-if'' game, shall we?
It isn't what if. In Nigeria Christians have killed Muslims and vs versa it is a very corrupt place.
The Christian Identity group grew out of the KKK who considered themselves Christians and they killed many black Muslims in the United States and blacks in general because according to their doctrine blacks are the descendants of Cain. And this was without the stress of people bombing them or puppet governments being supported by black foreign powers.
How about when Israel a Jewish country invades and bombs Christians in Lebanon? It isn't reported in the news as Jewish attacking Christians it is reported by country titles. Lebanon is the only Middle Eastern country with a plurality of Christians that means there is a significant enough percentage of Christians that they are a political force. It is estimated that 40% of Lebanon is Christian. While Egypt is home to the largest population of Christians they don't have a plurality. Israel the home of Christianity is no where near the percentage of Christian citizens. In the West Bank and occupied territory there use to be 20% Christian. Now only 2% of Christians remain and it isn't all because of the Muslims either many are being pushed out or killed by the Israeli forces who represent Jewish interest.
Whenever it is a dispute involving a group who happen to be Muslim as well as citizen of a territory. Why is it that their residential identity isn't used but their religious one is used in the media when the conflict is more about land disputes than religious ones? The agenda is to vilify a religion. The media never or very rarely uses the Jewish or Christian identity when reporting violence done by people who belong to those religions. The media is more likely to use their citizenship of other ethnic identity rather than their religious identity.
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we keep going round n round here....and getting nowhere.
yes, religious group A) hates B) hates C), and on, and on
i guess my biggest problem w/ muslims is that their fanaticism knows no bounds:
if i draw a cartoon that insults catholics or jews, i'll sleep soundly at night knowing that i'm not on some hit list.
not so w/ our islamic friends...and i could easily fill many pages of near recent examples (don't make me do it)
the latest:
http://en.trend.az/regions/world/europe/1651383.html
''Seven people have been arrested in the Irish Republic over an alleged plot to kill a Swedish cartoonist for depicting the Prophet Muhammad, police say.
The four men and three women are all Muslim, according to media reports, though a police statement did not confirm this, reported.
Cartoonist Lars Vilks had depicted the Prophet Muhammad with the body of a dog in the Nerikes Allehanda newspaper.
Islamic militants put a $100,000 (Ł67,000) bounty on his head.''
this guy drew this cartoon IN 2007!!!!
these fucking people don't quit.
This is the reason special attention to islam & muslims is a requisite.. I defy you to show me ANY OTHER RELIGION that gets whacked-out-of-it's-tits, over perceived insults
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Here again it is not all who are using the Muslim religion this way for perceived insults. Unless you have some way of proving that every single one of the 1.57 billion Muslims in the world contributed money to fund the hit you still only have some radicals to blame.
A black man in the south could have found himself hung for the perceived insult of looking at a white woman the wrong way. Yeah that is so much more rational than a hit on a cartoonist. And these murders were perpetrated by people who considered themselves to be Christians.
Or how about this case:
Paul "Big Paulie" Castellano's daughter told him that her boyfriend had insulted him royally. Big Paulie recruited a couple of young toughs to eliminate the problem permanently. John Gotti and Joseph Massino got together to kill Vito Borelli, the offending boyfriend.
What did Vito Borelli do wrong? According to Bonanno turncoat Goodlooking Sal Vitale, Borelli said out loud what Castellano's pals were afraid to: that Big Paulie looked a lot like Frank Perdue. the chicken magnate. Vitale was called on to help Massino and Gotti and several others dispose of Borelli's body in 1975 after these men killed him at a Manhattan cookie business operated by Bonanno soldier Anthony Rabito.
Someone saying you look like Frank Perdue is a killing offense. And that is so much more rational.
All your cartoonist hit proves is there is some radicals out there are insane enough to order a hit for a crazy reason. And that there are some people willing to carry it out for the price offered. People have killed others for as little as $2. No joke an Asian woman was killed by a mugger when she only had $2. The mugger killed her because she only had $2 and that make him angry. I don't know what ethnic group or religion that mugger considered himself to belong to but his quilt is not the guilt of the group for which he belongs. Just as Italians are not all made men in the mafia who will order hits for a perceived insult.
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The Christian Identity group grew out of the KKK who considered themselves Christians and they killed many black Muslims in the United States and blacks in general because according to their doctrine blacks are the descendants of Cain. And this was without the stress of people bombing them or puppet governments being supported by black foreign powers.
Not challenging you about this, not exactly, but do you have examples of the Christian Identity people killing many black Muslims?
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News flash: Crazed religious zealots are crazy.
It is so. In fact, prolly been like that since religion was invented.
What is the point of this discussion? Is there something you propose to do about it?
Probably questions not intended for me, but I'll take a stab/hack/machete at it.
I don't feel any kinship whatsoever with "Christians" in Africa (I barely do here). If I went to a Christian church in Liberia or wherever, I'd been seen as 1. "Whitey", 2. "American", 3. "potential victim". I'd see them as Liberian people who have agreed to accept bags of rice in exchange for singing the hymns belonging to the people who bring the rice.
Africa has had tribal warfare for.. .. ..quite awhile, no matter who has occupied the land, no matter who controls the corruption in government, no matter what religions are claiming what land. It's a jungle paradise of fuck-up. I can't imagine how it could be any worse.
<My ESP is tingling.. someone, somewhere out there is thinking of typing a reply saying... "Africa was swell until the evil white man came ashore and took advantage of those poor little African people." ..save it. That concept in itself is pure racism.>
From where I'm at, the point of discussion is simply to be blunt about the topic. People love to root for the underdog. Muslims have been wrongly portrayed as the underdog for so long now that people have just stopped questioning whether or not it's true. Due to someone's rules (likely some feel-good/guilt ridden whites somewhere who utilize some good PR firms), it's the latest social taboo to speak ill regarding Muslims. Especially if your commentary includes an illustration of allah. Apparently even more so within Liberty communities where any collective referencing had better be confined to cops and politicians, or else tears and cries of "bigot" are bound to flow aplenty.
I have no proposals for solution, other than to remain grounded in reality. Everyone knows that there are perfectly loving and harmless people of all religions, goes without saying. Not all Catholic priests bugger the little fellas in the congregation, not all Christian Identity folks are scouting the wilderness for black folks to hang, not all Muslims have dynamite taped near their scrotums, not all Buddhists refrain from jerkin' one out now and again.
The difference is, as shown by the replies in threads like this, is that if you criticize Muslims you should be prepared for some fallout. That's where the bullshit is deepest, because you can criticize any of the other groups mentioned above and it's all giggles, but insult or criticize Islam and get badgered like crazy for doing so.
That's especially odd since most of the people I know don't even have any remote ties to Islam, yet are easily worked into a frenzy over any offhand comment.
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Here again it is not all who are using the Muslim religion this way for perceived insults. Unless you have some way of proving that every single one of the 1.57 billion Muslims in the world contributed money to fund the hit you still only have some radicals to blame.
A black man in the south could have found himself hung for the perceived insult of looking at a white woman the wrong way. Yeah that is so much more rational than a hit on a cartoonist. And these murders were perpetrated by people who considered themselves to be Christians.
Or how about this case:
Paul "Big Paulie" Castellano's daughter told him that her boyfriend had insulted him royally. Big Paulie recruited a couple of young toughs to eliminate the problem permanently. John Gotti and Joseph Massino got together to kill Vito Borelli, the offending boyfriend.
What did Vito Borelli do wrong? According to Bonanno turncoat Goodlooking Sal Vitale, Borelli said out loud what Castellano's pals were afraid to: that Big Paulie looked a lot like Frank Perdue. the chicken magnate. Vitale was called on to help Massino and Gotti and several others dispose of Borelli's body in 1975 after these men killed him at a Manhattan cookie business operated by Bonanno soldier Anthony Rabito.
Someone saying you look like Frank Perdue is a killing offense. And that is so much more rational.
All your cartoonist hit proves is there is some radicals out there are insane enough to order a hit for a crazy reason. And that there are some people willing to carry it out for the price offered. People have killed others for as little as $2. No joke an Asian woman was killed by a mugger when she only had $2. The mugger killed her because she only had $2 and that make him angry. I don't know what ethnic group or religion that mugger considered himself to belong to but his quilt is not the guilt of the group for which he belongs. Just as Italians are not all made men in the mafia who will order hits for a perceived insult.
aaannndddd...we have a winnah.....
(hint: you're NOT it)
when you start bringing up old-south lynchings & the mafia, as examples of...''it happens everywhere'', you've clearly run out of steam, my friend.
and, we're NOT talking about some ''fringe'' radical group within this religion, as you've obviously & conveniently forgotten the MASS RIOTS in europe the erupted over this cartoon debacle. (again....over a fucking CARTOON of mohammed):
''.....This led to protests across the Muslim world, some of which escalated into violence with police firing on the crowds (resulting in more than 100 deaths, all together),........
......Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen described the controversy as Denmark's worst international crisis since World War II..........''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy
PROTIP: that wiki has a listing for this cartoon bullshit, is quite telling....in fact, i googled ''religious protests over insults'''.....guess-fucking-what....
it's over , johnny
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I don't think so. *facepalm* You are still identifying a group of radicals and attempting to tie all Muslims to the actions of those radicals. The radicals in this case using the cartoon as an excuse to incite anger.
I noticed from the same article you ignored this: "The majority of Muslim leaders and scholars called for protesters to remain peaceful." The word it seems you fail to comprehend is Majority. Majority means the largest portion of a group. And if they have freedom of speech they are well within their rights to protest peacefully. Just as much as those crazy Christian fundamentalist who protest at Iraq military deads' funerals. They claim it is God's judgment because abortion is legal and America is too gay friendly. These Christian radicals are not representative of all Christians.
Many of the critics saw the drawings as being racist. How about you go to the middle of Harlem Public Housing and shout out at the N word at that top of your lungs and let's just see if you remain unharmed.
There are other examples of crazy protests by religious groups and murders carried out in the name of religious beliefs. "The Life of Brian," was massively protested by Christian groups. Anti-abortion groups are mostly a Christian and some of them fire bomb clinics and kill doctors.
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This is the song that never ennnnnnnnnnnnnds..........
It just goes on and on my friends...............
Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was
And they'll keep singing it forever just because.............
This is the song that never ennnnnnnnnnnnnds..........
It just goes on and on my friends...............
Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was
And they'll keep singing it forever just because.............
This is the song that never ennnnnnnnnnnnnds..........
It just goes on and on my friends...............
Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was
And they'll keep singing it forever just because.............
This is the song that never ennnnnnnnnnnnnds..........
It just goes on and on my friends...............
Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was
And they'll keep singing it forever just because.............
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You are still identifying a group of radicals and attempting to tie all Muslims to the actions of those radicals.
"The majority of Muslim leaders and scholars called for protesters to remain peaceful." The word it seems you fail to comprehend is Majority. Majority means the largest portion of a group.
Many of the critics saw the drawings as being racist. How about you go to the middle of Harlem Public Housing and shout out at the N word at that top of your lungs and let's just see if you remain unharmed.
There are other examples of crazy protests by religious groups and murders carried out in the name of religious beliefs. "The Life of Brian," was massively protested by Christian groups. Anti-abortion groups are mostly a Christian and some of them fire bomb clinics and kill doctors.
again, you fail miserably:
1:''a group of radicals''?????
the majority of clerics & scholars>>>>>>does NOT = the MAJORITY of MUSLIMS...
the clerics & scholars are but a small fraction of the worlds muslim population, and in the case of the rioting, the MAJORITY of the muslim populace spoke loud & clear. NOT a ''group of radicals''.....don't fucking preach to me the meaning of majority
2:if i did go to harlem & yell nigger, i wouldn't have a $100,000 contract on my life years later, dumbass....can you say salman rushdie????? shit, wasn't that 30 YEARS AGO??!!
you're comparisons are embarrassing.
3: life of brian protests? is that all you've got????
again, see my response above.....christians never hunted down the movie makers or actors
4: face it, you've got nowhere to go with this, but down.
muslim responses to insults are unmatched by ANY OTHER religious group on the planet.
I've got hard facts to back that statement....you've got specious claims & non-sensical comparisons.
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I have no proposals for solution, other than to remain grounded in reality. Everyone knows that there are perfectly loving and harmless people of all religions, goes without saying. Not all Catholic priests bugger the little fellas in the congregation, not all Christian Identity folks are scouting the wilderness for black folks to hang, not all Muslims have dynamite taped near their scrotums, not all Buddhists refrain from jerkin' one out now and again.
Remaining grounded in reality is something I agree with. It is good to point out our similarities. You, Lucca, Libertylover and I have much in common. My part of this discussion was not to imply anyone is a bigot. I was trying to show that believing the clear governmental lies about Muslims might be a tad ignorant. We all have a lot in common with the average Muslim person and it would be cool if we all could see that. There is no need to hate an entire group for the actions of a few radicals.
I make it a point to do the exact opposite of what the forces of government are steering me towards. They want me to hate Muslims, well I will embrace them as brothers. We kind of are, as we both share a common enemy. For me, it has nothing to do with rooting for the underdog.
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I have no proposals for solution, other than to remain grounded in reality. Everyone knows that there are perfectly loving and harmless people of all religions, goes without saying. Not all Catholic priests bugger the little fellas in the congregation, not all Christian Identity folks are scouting the wilderness for black folks to hang, not all Muslims have dynamite taped near their scrotums, not all Buddhists refrain from jerkin' one out now and again.
Remaining grounded in reality is something I agree with. It is good to point out our similarities. You, Lucca, Libertylover and I have much in common. My part of this discussion was not to imply anyone is a bigot. I was trying to show that believing the clear governmental lies about Muslims might be a tad ignorant. We all have a lot in common with the average Muslim person and it would be cool if we all could see that. There is no need to hate an entire group for the actions of a few radicals.
I make it a point to do the exact opposite of what the forces of government are steering me towards. They want me to hate Muslims, well I will embrace them as brothers. We kind of are, as we both share a common enemy. For me, it has nothing to do with rooting for the underdog.
Cool.
I hear a lot about tolerance, acceptance, etc. from the gov. The gov. uses "Terrerissts" and "Extremissts" to stoke up the fear needed to keep that support coming for the wars. Sometimes you'll read "Muslim Extremists" or something, but the overall picture presented is that Muslims in general are good peeps. I think that's probably true, but I also think that their religion is the huge, unstable core of their existence, which makes for unstable mentalities, which leads to people who are easily brainwashed.. blah blah you know what I mean.
In the headlines today I read stories of 2 Americans on trial for doing their part to defend Islam (...and what exactly does Islam need defending from anyway?). I read the stories and thought I should mention here, that even though lately there seems to be a few Americans active in their personal little privileged jihads- that doesn't mean I think all Americans are prone to taking part in that nonsense. Lucca probably thinks the same way (correct me here dude) but he's being even more blunt that I am.
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the overall picture presented is that Muslims in general are good peeps. I think that's probably true
Whatever, they are sleepers. Those people are just waiting to chimp out.
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In the headlines today I read stories of 2 Americans on trial for doing their part to defend Islam
a few Americans active in their personal little privileged jihads- that doesn't mean I think all Americans are prone to taking part in that nonsense.
yes hb.
thanks, as always, for the level-headed input (at a premium around here, i'm afraid)
i think you speak of, for one, ''jihad jane'' larose from pennsylvania....
she was one of the wackos conspring to kill the swedish cartoonist..
so, even tho a white, blond-haired american, the underlying catalyst would be?.......
wait for it.................................................
islam.
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In the headlines today I read stories of 2 Americans on trial for doing their part to defend Islam
a few Americans active in their personal little privileged jihads- that doesn't mean I think all Americans are prone to taking part in that nonsense.
yes hb.
thanks, as always, for the level-headed input (at a premium around here, i'm afraid)
i think you speak of, for one, ''jihad jane'' larose from pennsylvania....
she was one of the wackos conspring to kill the swedish cartoonist..
so, even tho a white, blond-haired american, the underlying catalyst would be?.......
wait for it.................................................
islam.
Thanks hombre.
I'm beginning to wonder though.. is it really about Islam?
In her case I think it may be another instance where a white person is desperate to join up with a cause. Some people become impassioned to Save the Whales, protect the Earth from Climate Change, etc. Civil Rights is soo 1990's that it doesn't bring quite the emotional reward that is once did for this sort of person.
It gets back to the "underdog" thing. Black folks can't really claim that title any longer. They're still a minority of the population, but they seem to make up about 80% of pop culture, 90% of pro sports, etc. So now it's Muslims who are perceived as having the underdog status.
It must be quite a dizzying quandary that white bleeding-hearts find themselves in these days.. how to decide which group to crusade for. On that note.. here's a puzzler for ya..
If black men (I chose this group only because they have been considered underdogs, who these white folks have crusaded for, for so long) were to begin treating their women the way Muslim treat theirs, OH HELL NAW.. that would be WRONG! But somehow a lot of folks are charmed by the idea of carving out a niche for that sort of culture right here in the Global Heartland, USofA. A society simply cannot maintain two groups who are considered equally underdogged.
As a bleeding-heart melanin deprived individual intent on joining the most trendy cause of the generation, how would one chose to extract themselves from such a imbroglio?
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Look. I don't think much of Islam. It seems like they are wound tight like the hardcore fundamentalist christians. In fact, last night I stumbled across a show on HBO, I think, about Afghan Idol - or some crap. They were going on about how this contestant who danced when she was eliminated from the show was in mortal danger if she returned to her home town. I saw this twisted dude preaching to his congregation - or whatever - talking about her dishonor, etc. I would like nothing better than to see this guy and his ilk go play with a toaster in the bathtub. Still, we could exchange stories about evil in the world all day, every day. I agree that muslims give the impression that they don't like teh human beinz.
My point is, I don't care what percentage of world evil is done by muslims or by people who pray every day or by people who don't eat pork, or by people who are offended by the bottom of a show shoe or whatever the fetish. Can we just let it go and do something about the one group of people who is actually a threat to liberty and prosperity in North America?
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Again zero proof that all of the 157 billion Muslims in the world or even the majority of them have been involved in any of the stories you are passing around. You don't even question the reasons why you are being manipulated to hate an entire group of people.
Rushdie's book was garbage and would have gotten him zero attention if he had not said something incite controversy. And just like the fundies that protest movies which are supposedly unChristian all it ever does is publicize the object of their protest. And now that the one (1) who put out the hit is dead no one has re-instated it. So where are throngs of irrational radical Muslims who would kill Rushdie? If Rushdie thought his life was in serious danger why is out and about now? Wouldn't he still be in hiding? And again it was one person who put out the hit who was using his religion as the reason and not all the Muslims in the world. Logically if 157 billion people want you dead you are not going to enjoy 30 years of life regardless of your security.
I agree with Harry Tuttle the radical Muslims do seem wound to tight just like fundamentalist Christians. And you are going to find examples of crazy behavior from radicals in any group. However, I think that the media makes it seem like Muslims don't like people. I have Muslim neighbors and friends and they are not evil people who are just looking for excuses to feel insulted. But I also have neighbors and friends who represent several different religions and ethnic groups. I try to look at the individual and not the group to which they belong.
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hey , guess who's behind this?
Subway Blasts Kill Dozens in Moscow
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/world/europe/30moscow.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&src=igw
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And now that the one (1) who put out the hit is dead no one has re-instated it. So where are throngs of irrational radical Muslims who would kill Rushdie?
I agree with Harry Tuttle the radical Muslims do seem wound to tight just like fundamentalist Christians.
i love how you sugarcoat muslim extremism, as though its on par with ''other religious extremists''.
not even close.
btw, even your downplay of the rushdie thing shows your true colors:
''The publication of the book and the fatwā sparked violence around the world, with bookstores firebombed. Muslim communities in several nations in the West held public rallies in which copies of the book were burned. Several people associated with translating or publishing the book were attacked, seriously injured, and even killed.[23] Many more people died in riots in Third World countries.
On 24 September 1998, as a precondition to the restoration of diplomatic relations with Britain, the Iranian government, then headed by Mohammad Khatami, gave a public commitment that it would "neither support nor hinder assassination operations on Rushdie."[24][25]
Hardliners in Iran have continued to reaffirm the death sentence.[26] In early 2005, Khomeini's fatwā was reaffirmed by Iran's spiritual leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, in a message to Muslim pilgrims making the annual pilgrimage to Mecca.[27] Additionally, the Revolutionary Guards have declared that the death sentence on him is still valid.....''
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
I've decided that I might try to post an example of the side's lunatic fringe every time you post one from the lunatic Muslim side.
Of course, I will get bored quickly and might not be very fast in responding.
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The WBC doesn't go around blowing people up.
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True. But still bat shit crazy.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
I've decided that I might try to post an example of the side's lunatic fringe every time you post one from the lunatic Muslim side.
Of course, I will get bored quickly and might not be very fast in responding.
How can you draw comparisons between mass murders and crazy/lame protesters?
At any rate, if a post-off happens the accounts of atrocities rooted in Islam will outnumber any other fringe caused events.
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At any rate, if a post-off happens the accounts of atrocities rooted in Islam will outnumber any other fringe caused events.
I don't know about that. Can I blame the Jews for everything Israel had done?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
I've decided that I might try to post an example of the side's lunatic fringe every time you post one from the lunatic Muslim side.
Of course, I will get bored quickly and might not be very fast in responding.
of course you will run out of examples very quickly.....muslims will always give me plenty of ammo
also, can we play by the apples=apples rules?
wbc is a bunch of lunatics, but until they start blowing shit up, or putting out contracts on people's heads over cartoons, you'll have to do WAY better than that...
luca = 1
you = 0
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
I've decided that I might try to post an example of the side's lunatic fringe every time you post one from the lunatic Muslim side.
Of course, I will get bored quickly and might not be very fast in responding.
of course you will run out of examples very quickly.....muslims will always give me plenty of ammo
also, can we play by the apples=apples rules?
wbc is a bunch of lunatics, but until they start blowing shit up, or putting out contracts on people's heads over cartoons, you'll have to do WAY better than that...
luca = 1
you = 0
Nope, I set the rules. Crazy for crazy. Action of crazy is irrelevant.
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putting out contracts on people's heads over cartoons
If they can't even kill a cartoonist, you don't have to worry about them.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
I've decided that I might try to post an example of the side's lunatic fringe every time you post one from the lunatic Muslim side.
Of course, I will get bored quickly and might not be very fast in responding.
of course you will run out of examples very quickly.....muslims will always give me plenty of ammo
also, can we play by the apples=apples rules?
wbc is a bunch of lunatics, but until they start blowing shit up, or putting out contracts on people's heads over cartoons, you'll have to do WAY better than that...
luca = 1
you = 0
Nope, I set the rules. Crazy for crazy. Action of crazy is irrelevant.
now you're being a fucking moron.
it's obvious i've backed you into a corner.
a group of people yelling about how ''god hates fags'' is a far cry from a radical muslim yelling ''alluhah akbar'' & then blowing a cafe of innocent people to smithereens.
there is no comparison.
i don't care or worry about people like the wbc (hint: neither do airlines..)
i am concerned about an angry muslim & his zeal to martyr himself on my dime
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putting out contracts on people's heads over cartoons
If they can't even kill a cartoonist, you don't have to worry about them.
well, theo van gogh didn't draw a cartoon, but he made a movie short......
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church
I've decided that I might try to post an example of the side's lunatic fringe every time you post one from the lunatic Muslim side.
Of course, I will get bored quickly and might not be very fast in responding.
of course you will run out of examples very quickly.....muslims will always give me plenty of ammo
also, can we play by the apples=apples rules?
wbc is a bunch of lunatics, but until they start blowing shit up, or putting out contracts on people's heads over cartoons, you'll have to do WAY better than that...
luca = 1
you = 0
Nope, I set the rules. Crazy for crazy. Action of crazy is irrelevant.
now you're being a fucking moron.
it's obvious i've backed you into a corner.
a group of people yelling about how ''god hates fags'' is a far cry from a radical muslim yelling ''alluhah akbar'' & then blowing a cafe of innocent people to smithereens.
there is no comparison.
i don't care or worry about people like the wbc (hint: neither do airlines..)
i am concerned about an angry muslim & his zeal to martyr himself on my dime
The point is not to compare levels of crazines. It is to expose you to an equal amount of crazy on the other side in a futile attempt to prove to you that it does not matter what the nationality or race we are all very similar.
Also, wasn't this recent attack in Moscow motivated by something other than religion? I have not folowed the story to closely but I thought it was motivated by a desire to be free of a brutal central authoritarian government. Kind of like what we got here. At least that is a better reason than religion.
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The point is not to compare levels of crazines. It is to expose you to an equal amount of crazy on the other side in a futile attempt to prove to you that it does not matter what the nationality or race we are all very similar.
Also, wasn't this recent attack in Moscow motivated by something other than religion? I have not folowed the story to closely but I thought it was motivated by a desire to be free of a brutal central authoritarian government. Kind of like what we got here. At least that is a better reason than religion.
....''equal amount of crazy on the other side''??!!
that's just it....it's UNPARELLELED in any comparison you can show me.
NOBODY else is blowing shit up & rioting in the streets the way the muslims are.
i dont' care about how ''crazy'' one group is in their religious fervor.....as long as they aren't harming anyone....their words & rhetoric don't trouble me in the least.
its the whackos that put their hatred into action.
also, re: moscow
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/jihad-in-russia-femael-muslims-blow-themselves-up-on-moscow-subway-death-toll-37-and-climbing.html
''The women are willing, even eager, to become “martyrs” for the Islamist jihad, or holy war, driven by a burning desire for revenge on Russia after witnessing the deaths of children, husbands or family members at the hands of the military during the two Chechen wars of the 1990s.
The prolonged war on insurgents over the past decade has added to the pool of recruits among women enraged at seeing security services kidnap, torture and kill male relatives, or destroy their family homes as punishment for alleged involvement with terrorist groups.
....and........
The bombings were revenge for the killing of militant leader Alexander Tikhomirov,
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/world/russian-leaders-long-plagued-by-islamic-terrorists-89494147.html
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At any rate, if a post-off happens the accounts of atrocities rooted in Islam will outnumber any other fringe caused events.
I don't know about that. Can I blame the Jews for everything Israel had done?
According to Lunitic Brazil you should by all means blame an entire group of people for the actions of a few who identify themselves with the group. So all Germans are Nazis and should be punished for WWII. All white Americans are to blame for slavery and should be forced to pay reparations to black Americans. All Southerners are members of the KKK. So on and so forth in the bigots mind.
Never bothering to notice when a Christian group murders Muslims. Or even question why it isn't reported in western media. When a non-Muslim group burns books which they object to or non-Muslim riots happen either it isn't reported or it is reported as being reasonable under the circumstances. If the group is favored or a majority of the readership the group aspect is down played as a cause.
Unlike Muslims who are always taking offense over cartoons, these people have serious grievances right?
After publishing a depiction of Jesus on the cross being defecated on by the devil has resulted in the editor-in-chief of the Swedish newspaper "Östgöta Correspondenten" receiving death threats.
One of the messages left on editor in chief Ola Sigvardsson's answering machine was:
"Hope you get a knife in you this coming week. If it isn't a human who does it, Jesus will cut your throat."
Another was:
"Tomorrow, a man will wait outside your door when you leave for work. He has a thing in his hand which will teach you God's anger."
The drawing was on a poster for a punk festival in Linköping. An employee at the local city hall decided that the poster shouldn't be put up in the cultural house "Skylten", which led to accusations of censorship.
The offending cartoon. http://jp.dk/udland/europa/article1291725.ece (http://jp.dk/udland/europa/article1291725.ece)
It was Piss Christ, Andres Serrano's photograph of a crucifix immersed in his own urine ..........
He has received death threats and hate mail and has lost grants on the one hand, and on the other has enjoyed dozens of laudatory articles http://www.communityarts.net/readingroom/archivefiles/2002/09/shooting_the_kl.php (http://www.communityarts.net/readingroom/archivefiles/2002/09/shooting_the_kl.php)
Oddly enough under the Wiki blasphemy article the Christian death threats are not mentioned.
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you both are still marginalizing the fact that muslims go shithouse WHOLESALE
the 2 examples above are perpetuated by a fractional minority, as there were no major riots or throngs of dead people in the wake of the insulting depictions.
that is the major difference between these 2 groups of people, and i don't know how many more ways you need to be shown (altho, i have a sneaking suspicion you both secretly acknowledge & agree w/ my positions, except are loathe to admit such, in a public forum)
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In fairness, LibertyLover brings two accounts that are applicable. So there's 2 on the list of "Threats by Christians in the name of Christianity but not backed up with violent actions". Not much, but it's a start.
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you both are still marginalizing the fact that muslims go shithouse WHOLESALE
Okay, okay. I should have thought of this before. I will post a story of how the U.S. military is killing people all over the world every time you post a story of muslims blowing themselves up. There is no diff in the level of crazy there.
There is enough crazy in the world, why not tear yourself away from it's influence? Be the bigger man and do your part, if only in your personal life, to end the cycle of crazy violence.
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you both are still marginalizing the fact that muslims go shithouse WHOLESALE
Okay, okay. I should have thought of this before. I will post a story of how the U.S. military is killing people all over the world every time you post a story of muslims blowing themselves up. There is no diff in the level of crazy there.
i know, i know...
the big, bad u.s. military
how bout iraq?
i'd be willing to wager that various iraqi sects have killed & continue to kill MORE of their own people than the u.s. military
and...are you counting the shitbags that need killin'?
taliban?
al queda?
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Which church is most likely to currently be harboring pedophiles?
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In fairness, LibertyLover brings two accounts that are applicable. So there's 2 on the list of "Threats by Christians in the name of Christianity but not backed up with violent actions". Not much, but it's a start.
So the Christian violence against Muslims in the former Yugoslavia don't count. Nor does the Christian violence in Zimbabwe or how about the abortion clinic bombings or the Christian Identity hero who shot Larry Flynt and was responsible for fire bombings as well as murders of several people over the course of a 3 year period of time. None of that counts but these accounts of threats do count. There were Christian death threat on Kevin Smith's life for his movie, "Dogma." And the fundies went ape shit over the movie, "The Last Temptation of Christ."
Let me make this point crystal clear fundamentalist of any religion are nutty. They all twist their particular religious teachings to feed their insanity. Media under reports the outrageous and violent behavior of non-Muslims. And they over report Muslim activity typically not presenting any of the background.
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In fairness, LibertyLover brings two accounts that are applicable. So there's 2 on the list of "Threats by Christians in the name of Christianity but not backed up with violent actions". Not much, but it's a start.
So the Christian violence against Muslims in the former Yugoslavia don't count. Nor does the Christian violence in Zimbabwe or how about the abortion clinic bombings or the Christian Identity hero who shot Larry Flynt and was responsible for fire bombings as well as murders of several people over the course of a 3 year period of time. None of that counts but these accounts of threats do count. There were Christian death threat on Kevin Smith's life for his movie, "Dogma." And the fundies went ape shit over the movie, "The Last Temptation of Christ."
Let me make this point crystal clear fundamentalist of any religion are nutty. They all twist their particular religious teachings to feed their insanity. Media under reports the outrageous and violent behavior of non-Muslims. And they over report Muslim activity typically not presenting any of the background.
Sure, those can count too. I just started the tallies though.
I don't know the specifics about the abortion shootings, and I ought not to have been so specific in my titling of the list.. so I'll make one list called "Christian Aggression", and one called "Muslim Aggression". And for blackie I'll have one called "Jew Aggression". And just to be inclusive of all loving faiths, I'll add a fourth called "Other Aggression" (which combines all other religions but probably won't amount to much in total).
"Christian Aggression" - a generous 25 thus far.
"Jew Aggression" (for blackie) - 15.
"Other" - 5.
I am unanimous in that I think Luca has something up his sleeve. There is just NO WAY all of those accounts are really real. So for his claims, we will start him at:
"Muslim Aggression" - 0.
Of course it's all highly scientific, but we will observe for some unnamed period of time to see who is killing who, and the accounts reported here will provide valuable insight for this BBS community and it's members.
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Which church is most likely to currently be harboring pedophiles?
No one knows the answer to this one? Not even a suspicion?
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I'll add a fourth called "Other Aggression" (which combines all other religions but probably won't amount to much in total).
What about "Atheists Aggression?"
(http://s.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web02/2009/10/5/21/disaster-girl-at-columbine-high-school-18049-1254793020-71.jpg)
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HB, that is bullshit.....''0''?
well then...starting w/ most recent : (& i'll simply work backwards....as best i can)
russian subway:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/world/europe/01dagestan.html?th&emc=th
Doku K. Umarov is a rebel leader who wants an Islamic state in Chechnya, a Muslim region in the Caucasus.
EDIT: wayyyyyy easier than i thought:
List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2010.03.31 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 13 40 A dozen people at a wheat market are blown to bits by a Jihad bicycle bomb.
2010.03.31 Thailand Pattani 1 2 Islamic militants shoot one man to death and wound two others as they are watcing TV in their home.
2010.03.31 Dagestan Kizlyar 12 23 Two suicide bombers send twelve innocent souls to Allah, including rescue workers.
2010.03.30 Afghanistan Heart 5 2 The Taliban murder five civilians with a roadside bomb.
2010.03.30 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two civilians are shot to death by Sunni militants.
2010.03.30 India Hyderabad 1 25 Muslims attack a Hindu festival, burning cows, destroying property and stabbing a 22-year-old to death.
2010.03.29 Pakistan Kurram 3 0 The Taliban kidnap and cut the throats of three tribal elders.
2010.03.29 Russia Moscow 38 102 Female suicide bombers massacre about forty subway commuters and leave another one-hundred in agony.
2010.03.29 Thailand Yala 1 0 A village chief is brutally gunned down at a wedding by Muslim separatists.
2010.03.29 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 Terrorists kidnap a police officer and shoot him to death.
2010.03.29 Pakistan Tank 1 2 A Shahid suicide bomber murders a civilian on his way home from a village defense meeting.
2010.03.29 Iraq Karbala 12 74 A triple suicide bombing at a restaurant and an ambulance stand leaves a dozen dead.
2010.03.29 Pakistan Peshawar 2 3 A teenage suicide bomber sends two Pakistanis to Allah.
2010.03.29 Pakistan Mamoond 2 8 Two people are killed by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2010.03.28 Iraq Quaim 6 24 Six people at a construction site are killed in a coordinated series of bomb blasts.
2010.03.28 Pakistan Thal 6 0 Six truck drivers bringing supplies to a Shia town are kidnapped and shot dead in captivity by Sunni radicals.
2010.03.28 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A Somali tribal elder is assassinated by suspected Hizbul-Islam militants.
2010.03.28 Iraq Mosul 1 3 A 3-year-old child dies when Mujahideen bombers target a Christian woman and her three daughters in their home.
2010.03.27 Somalia Mogadishu 4 2 al-Shabaab Islamists kill four people, including a woman, with a roadside bomb.
2010.03.27 Afghanistan Kabul 6 7 Children are among the casualties of three bombings that leave six civilians dead around the country.
2010.03.27 Iraq Saadiya 3 1 Islamic terrorists open fire on a group of civilians outside their home, killing three.
2010.03.27 Afghanistan Helmand 1 0 A suicide bomber murders a British soldier clearing mines from a civilian road.
2010.03.26 Afghanistan Khost 1 3 An aid worker is killed when Talibanis fire on a group rebuilding a school.
2010.03.26 Israel Gaza Border 2 2 Two Israeli soldiers are killed by Hamas gunfire.
2010.03.26 Iraq Khalis 53 105 Two massive bomb blasts at a shopping area leave over fifty innocent people dead.
2010.03.25 Pakistan Orakzai 2 0 Two tribal elders are abducted and beheaded by Religion of Peace radicals.
2010.03.25 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Suspected al-Qaeda bombers murder a Sunni.
2010.03.25 Iraq Touz Khormato 2 6 Two people are killed by Jihadi bombers.
2010.03.25 Iraq Ramadi 1 8 A Shahid suicide bomber takes out an Iraqi.
2010.03.25 Afghanistan Khost 2 4 Two Afghan civilians are killed when Islamic hardliners attack a NATO base.
2010.03.25 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 A mother and daughter are brutally shot to death in their home by Muslim terrorists.
2010.03.24 Iraq Radwaniya 5 0 Five Iraqi soldiers are shot to death execution style at a checkpoint.
2010.03.24 Afghanistan Uruzgan 2 0 Two men working for a land-mine clearing operation are murdered by Islamists.
2010.03.24 Afghanistan Ghazni 3 0 Three local cops are blasted to death by Taliban bombers.
2010.03.24 Afghanistan Kabul 2 1 Islamic militants stop a vehicle with a roadside bomb, then machine-gun the occupants.
2010.03.24 Iraq Hit 3 2 A teenage suicide bomber murders three people in their home.
2010.03.23 Pakistan Orakzai 1 0 A tribal elder is abducted and executed by religious extremists.
2010.03.23 Iraq Balad Ruz 1 0 Suspected al-Qaeda bombers take down a Sunni leader.
2010.03.22 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An electrician is murdered in front of his home by drive-by Jihadis.
2010.03.22 Iraq Radwaniya 2 0 Islamic 'insurgents' gun down two policemen.
2010.03.22 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two city workers are brutally shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2010.03.22 Pakistan Rawalpindi 1 1 A Christian dies after being burned alive three days earlier for refusing to embrace Islam. His wife was also raped.
2010.03.21 Afganistan Helmand 10 7 Ten Afghans at a market are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2010.03.21 Iraq Garma 2 0 A man and wife are shot to death in their home by al-Qaeda.
2010.03.21 Afghanistan Khost 3 3 Three young men are killed when Islamists bomb a picnic area.
2010.03.21 Pakistan North Waziristan 4 0 Tehreek-e-Taliban hardliners abduct and execute four local tribesmen.
2010.03.21 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An elderly man is gunned down in his home by Islamic terrorists.
2010.03.21 Iraq Yusufiya 3 5 Three Iraqis are taken down by a roadside bomb.
2010.03.21 Pakistan Quetta 4 5 A suicide bomber on a bicycle pedals to paradise, taking four innocents with him.
2010.03.20 Pakistan Kurram 1 6 A woman is killed in the crossfire when rival religious groups clash.
2010.03.20 Pakistan Quetta 4 0 Four Shias are shredded by gunfire in a suspected sectarian attack.
2010.03.20 Somalia Kismayo 1 0 Islamists gun down a rival.
2010.03.20 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 Hardliners beat a student to death for playing music, which they consider to be against Islamic teaching.
2010.03.19 Pakistan Kurram 2 3 Islamists attack the houses of peace committee members, leaving two dead.
2010.03.19 Iraq Baghdad 4 7 Four Iraqis are blown to bits by Mujahideen bombers.
2010.03.19 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim radicals gun down an auto parts salesman.
2010.03.18 Pakistan Mohmand 1 0 A young girl is taken out by a Taliban landmine.
2010.03.18 Israel Netiv Haasara 1 0 A 30-year-old farm laborer is killed by a Palestinian rocket fired from Gaza.
2010.03.18 Iraq Sherquat 2 0 Two men are abducted and beheaded by suspected al-Qaeda.
2010.03.18 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 Islamic terrorists murder a woman inside her home.
2010.03.18 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 Islamists gun down an off-cuty policeman on his way home.
2010.03.18 Iraq Mosul 2 1 A woman in her home is among two people murdered by Islamic terrorists.
2010.03.17 Pakistan Khyber 5 2 Five security personnel are slain by an Islamist attack on a checkpost.
2010.03.17 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A 55-year-old Christian father is shot down in cold blood.
2010.03.17 Nigeria Dyie 13 6 Thirteen more Christian villagers are massacred by Muslim raiders in an overnight attack, including a mother and two children burned to death. Victims also had their tongues cut out.
2010.03.17 Thailand Yala 1 2 Muslim militants murder a teenage boy and seriously injure his parents.
2010.03.16 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A woman and her daughter are gunned down by Sunni terrorists.
2010.03.16 Thailand Pattani 1 1 Islamists shoot a 38-year old teacher to death in an attack that leaves his 7-year-old son injured.
2010.03.16 India Srinagar 4 9 A salesman is among four people murdered in two separate attacks by Islamic snipers.
2010.03.16 Pakistan Kurram 3 0 Three local tribesmen are killed in a botched kidnapping attempt by Taliban hardliners.
2010.03.16 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 Islamic radicals shoot a 43-year-old Buddhist civilian to death.
2010.03.16 Iraq Mussayab 8 11 Jihadis plant two bombs on a bus that leave eight dead and eleven more in agony.
2010.03.15 Iraq Khaldiya 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated by Religion of Peace rivals.
2010.03.15 Iraq Mosul 3 2 Three police are killed in separate Mujahideen attacks.
2010.03.15 Iraq Fallujah 8 28 A Shahid suicide bomber detonates among a group of laborers, leaving at least eight dead.
2010.03.15 Somalia Mahaday 1 0 The Christian pastor of an underground church is hunted down like an animal by Islamists and shot to death. (He was not a convert to Islam).
2010.03.15 Afghanistan Ghazni 3 0 Three civilians are shredded by a Taliban shrapnel bomb.
2010.03.14 Afghanistan Marjah 1 0 A reported beheading of a local civilian by the Taliban is confirmed.
2010.03.14 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 1 0 Islamic terrorists kill a civilian with a landmine.
2010.03.14 Pakistan Khyber 2 0 An electrician is among two civilians shot to death by Islamic militants.
2010.03.14 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An imam leaving a mosque is gunned down by Religion of Peace rivals.
2010.03.14 Iraq Mosul 4 2 Four local cops are cut to pieces by Jihadi roadside bombers.
2010.03.14 India Srinagar 1 5 Islamic militants lob a hand grenade at a police vehicle, killing one officer.
2010.03.13 Pakistan Mingora 17 51 Seventeen people at a courthouse are blown to bits by a Tehreek-e-Taliban suicide bomber pulling a rickshaw.
2010.03.13 Pakistan Mohmand 3 0 Three tribal members are machine-gunned to death by Religion of Peace radicals.
2010.03.13 Afghanistan Kandahar 35 52 About thirty innocent people are incinerated by a series of paradise-seeking suicide bombers
2010.03.13 Iraq Baghdad 3 19 Three Iraqis are taken down by a pair of Jihad blasts.
2010.03.12 Iraq Karbalah 2 3 A car bomb follows prayers, leaving two dead.
2010.03.12 Iraq Zoubaa 1 1 Freedom fighters kill a young boy outside of a policeman's home.
2010.03.12 Thailand Yala 2 2 A respected police chief is murdered by Islamic bombers six months short of retirement.
2010.03.12 Egypt Marsa Matruh 0 23 Twenty-three Chistians are injured when a Muslim mob attacks their community after rumors of a church construction.
2010.03.12 India Srinagar 1 0 A civilian standing outside a mosque is murdered by a Mujahideen sniper.
2010.03.12 Pakistan Lahore 62 85 Over sixty innocents are sent to Allah by two Fedayeen suicide bombers.
2010.03.11 Thailand Pattani 3 1 Three telephone company workers are shot by Mujahideen and then set on fire while still alive.
2010.03.11 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 Two telecom employees are dragged into the street and beheaded by Religion of Peace extremists.
2010.03.11 Afghanistan Kapisa 5 3 Four children and one adult are dismembered by a Taliban roadside blast.
2010.03.11 Pakistan Bajaur 2 0 Two people are killed in a shooting ambush by Islamic militants.
2010.03.11 Afghanistan Paktia 3 1 Three local security personnel are murdered by fundamentalist bombers.
2010.03.11 Pakistan Peshawar 4 21 A child is among four people taken down by a suicide bomber.
2010.03.11 Pakistan Karachi 4 0 Four Sunnis are shot to death by Shiites while riding in a car.
2010.03.11 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamists gun down a 61-year-old Buddhist broom salesman.
2010.03.10 Somalia Mogadishu 42 83 At least forty civilians are killed during a sustained assault by al-Shabaab militia.
2010.03.10 Afghanistan Paktika 5 4 Five security personnel are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2010.03.10 Pakistan Oghi 6 0 Six aid workers of a Christian charity are herded out of their office by Muslim gunmen and machine-gunned to death.
2010.03.10 Afghanistan Faryab 2 4 Two children are blown apart by a terrorist landmine. Four others are injured.
2010.03.09 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Sunni terrorists gun down a man at a bus station.
2010.03.09 Afghanistan Khost 2 3 A Shahid suicide bomber at a military base kills two soldiers.
2010.03.09 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 45-year-old salesman is shot once in the back of the head, then set on fire by Religion of Peace terrorists.
2010.03.09 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 Islamists assassinate a rival in an open-air market.
2010.03.09 Somalia Mogadishu 3 0 At least three civilians are killed during an attack by Islamic militia.
2010.03.09 Lebanon Hakr al-Daheri 1 0 A 24-year-old woman with a boyfriend is shot twice in the head by her brother to 'cleanse the family honor.'
2010.03.08 Pakistan Lahore 15 60 Fifteen people are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber at an office park.
2010.03.08 Iraq Fallujah 2 1 Two civilians are gunned down by Sunni terrorists.
2010.03.08 Pakistan Lashkar-e-Islam 2 0 Lashkar-e-Islam gunmen take down two people in separate attacks.
2010.03.08 Afghanistan Badghis 12 0 Ten civilians and two local cops are dismembered by two Sunni bombs.
2010.03.08 Niger Niamey 5 0 Five members of a border patrol lose their lives to an al-Qaeda ambush.
2010.03.08 Pakistan South Waziristan 2 1 Two tribal elders are blown apart by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2010.03.07 Iraq Baghdad 51 140 Over fifty Iraqis are taken down in a series of bomb blasts and shootings around the country by Mujahideen intent on disrupting elections.
2010.03.07 Yemen Sanaa 2 0 Two hospital guards are gunned down by an al-Qaeda terrorist.
2010.03.07 Pakistan Orakzai 1 0 The beheaded body of a tribal elder is found a few days after his abduction by the Taliban.
2010.03.07 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 A Christian man dies during a home invasion by Muslim gunmen.
2010.03.07 Afghanistan Baghlan 19 0 At least 19 civilians are killed when the Taliban and Hezb-e-Islami fundamentalist terror groups clash.
2010.03.07 Nigeria Dogo Nahauwa 528 600 Over five-hundred Christians, mostly women and children, are hacked to death by Muslim raiders with machetes in a night-time attack on their village. The killers yelled 'Allah Akbar,' as they chopped.
2010.03.07 India Srinagar 1 0 A 30-year-old shopkeeper is murdered by Islamic gunmen.
2010.03.06 Iraq Garma 1 2 A woman is taken out by a Jihadi bomber.
2010.03.06 Iraq Najaf 4 54 Four Shia pilgrims are killed when Sunni radicals bomb a shrine.
2010.03.06 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A taxi driver dies after a savage machete attack by Muslim separatists.
2010.03.05 Pakistan Hangu 12 35 At least four women are among a dozen dead Shiites after a Sunni suicide bomber detonates near a passenger bus.
2010.03.05 Iraq Mussayab 1 0 A child is blown apart by Mujahideen bombers.
2010.03.04 Iraq Baghdad 17 61 Three separate Jihad bombings take the lives of seventeen people, including voters waiting in line.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
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2010.03.04 Afghanistan Kandahar 5 0 Five construction workers are shot to pieces at point-blank range by Islamic terrorists.
2010.03.04 Pakistan Chamarkand 1 0 One person is killed when religious extremists attack a security post with rockets.
2010.03.03 Iraq Mosul 1 0 An imam is gunned down in his mosque by Religion of Peace rivals.
2010.03.03 Iraq Baquba 33 55 Three Shahid suicide bombers take down more than thirty Iraqis in coordinated attacks.
2010.03.03 Iraq Kirkuk 2 0 Terrorists stab a man and his wife to death inside their home.
2010.03.03 Somalia Mogadishu 12 49 Children are among those killed during an al-Shabaab assault.
2010.03.02 Thailand Pattani 2 2 Islamists open fire on a father and his three daughters, killing him and a 7-year-old.
2010.03.02 Pakistan Khuzdar 2 12 Suspected fundamentalists bomb a music show, killing two college students.
2010.03.01 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 2 0 Two employees of a construction company are incinerated by a Sunni roadside bomb.
2010.03.01 Iraq Baghdad 4 0 Islamic fundamentalists bomb a liquor store, killing the owner and three patrons.
2010.03.01 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 15 A civilian is killed by a Taliban bomb.
2010.03.01 Pakistan Karak 4 24 A Holy Warrior sends four innocents to Allah with a suicide bomb.
2010.03.01 Afghanistan Baghdad 3 0 A 10-year-old boy is among three people killed by dedicated Islamic bombers.
2010.03.01 India Shimoga 1 0 A man dies from injuries after being hit with stones thrown by a mob angered over a newspaper article deemed insulting to Islam.
2010.03.01 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 Four civilians die in a brutal suicide attack on a bridge.
2010.03.01 Philippines Mindanao 1 0 A Chinese national dies from health complications suffered during an Abu Sayyaf kidnapping.
2010.02.28 Afghanistan Kabul 5 2 Muslim terrorists shoot five family members to death inside their home.
2010.02.28 Afghanistan Khost 6 0 Six local soldiers die in two Taliban bomb attacks.
2010.02.28 Afghanistan Helmand 11 0 Two women and two children are among eleven civilians taken down by Islamic bombers.
2010.02.28 Iraq Khalidiya 2 2 Jihadis take out two Iraqis with a car bomb.
2010.02.27 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 1 7 A sectarian sniper takes down one civilian in a Sunni procession.
2010.02.27 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 7 38 Seven people are killed in a sectarian mob attack on a seminary.
2010.02.27 Pakistan Karak 4 23 A child is among four locals murdered in separate suicide bombings.
2010.02.27 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamic separatists pump a 70-year-old man full of bullets as he is walking home.
2010.02.27 Philippines Tubigan 15 13 Women and five children (ages 1 to 11) are among thirteen gunned down by Moro Islamists sweeping through a Christian village.
2010.02.26 Iraq Mosul 3 22 Three Iraqis are taken down by a Jihadi bomb planted in a dumpster.
2010.02.26 Somalia Mogadishu 4 5 An Islamist landmine attack leaves four local soldiers dead.
2010.02.26 Afghanistan Kabul 17 32 Religious extremists attack guesthouses with suicide bombs and gunfire, killing seventeen people, including several foreigners.
2010.02.26 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 An imam is shot to death by members of a rival mosque.
2010.02.26 Liberia Voinjama 4 23 A Muslim mob burns churches and kills at least four Christians.
2010.02.26 Pakistan Lahore 0 3 A Christian family is terrorized in their home by a Muslim gang. One girl is raped and the other stabbed four times.
2010.02.25 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two women are killed in separate Jihad attacks. One is stabbed and the other beheaded.
2010.02.25 Saudi Arabia Riyadh 1 3 Four British cyclists are delibertely run down by drivers in two cars. A 54-year-old humanitarian worker dies from injuries.
2010.02.25 India Pulwama 1 0 Mujahideen gun down a shopkeeper.
2010.02.25 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two members of a minority community are gunned down in their store by militant Muslims.
2010.02.24 Pakistan Hangu 3 3 Suspected Islamic radicals fire on a railway car, killing three passengers, including a college student.
2010.02.24 Pakistan Peshawar 4 0 Four young brothers, ages 4 to 17, are destroyed by a Taliban rocket attack on their home.
2010.02.24 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 Terrorists assassinate a judge with a bomb outside his home.
2010.02.24 Pakistan North Waziristan 3 0 Three civilians have their throats cut by the Taliban, who throw their headless bodies into a ditch.
2010.02.23 Ingushetia Ordzhonikidzevskaya 1 0 A security officer is gunned down in his car by Muslim rebels.
2010.02.23 India Baramulla 3 3 Islamic militants open fire on a group of Indian soldiers, killing three.
2010.02.23 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 7 14 Seven civilians at a bus stop are blown to pieces by a bicycle bomb.
2010.02.23 Iraq Baghdad 3 5 Islamists plant a bomb on a dead body, which kills three people assigned to remove the corpse.
2010.02.23 Iraq Mosul 2 5 Jihadis gun down two local cops.
2010.02.23 Iraq Mosul 3 0 A Christian father and his two sons are murdered in their home. They were relatives of a priest.
2010.02.22 Pakistan Peshawar 1 1 A prominent Shia leader is assassinated by Sunni gunmen.
2010.02.22 Pakistan Swat 6 5 A half-dozen people are taken down by a Shahid suicide bomber at a marketplace.
2010.02.22 Iraq Baghdad 8 0 Eight Shia family members, including a pregnant woman are shot and beheaded in their home by suspected al-Qaeda.
2010.02.22 Iraq Ramadi 5 5 A Jihadi car bomb takes down five Iraqis outside a government building, including a 6-year-old boy.
2010.02.22 Iraq Baghdad 7 8 A university professor and a streetsweeper are among seven people shot to death by Muslim terrorists in separate attacks.
2010.02.22 Algeria Boumerdes 1 5 A local soldier is killed in a bomb attack by Islamic fundamentalists.
2010.02.22 Indonesia Aceh 2 0 A man and his son are shot to death by Jemaah Islamiyah linked terrorists.
2010.02.22 Pakistan Mingora 13 41 Four women are among more than a dozen innocents blasted to death by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2010.02.22 India Baramulla 1 3 A local family is brutally assaulted by Muslim thugs, who smash the head of their 10-day old infant with a rock.
2010.02.22 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two guards at a shop are shot to death in a Muslim drive-by.
2010.02.22 Iraq Baghdad 4 0 Sunni militants invade a home and gun down a Shia woman and her three daughters.
2010.02.21 Pakistan Khyber 2 0 The heads of three Sikhs, kidnapped by the Taliban, are discovered. Two were businessmen who did not pay the Jizya. The other would not embrace Islam.
2010.02.21 Somalia Mogadishu 3 0 Three men are killed in a Hizbul Islam bombing.
2010.02.21 Iraq Taji 1 7 Sunni gunmen fire on a bus carrying Shia pilgrims, killing at least one passenger.
2010.02.21 Iraq Tikrit 1 2 A suicide bomber targeting a mosque manages to kill one civilian.
2010.02.21 Iraq Khanaqin 5 1 Jihadis gun down five guards at a power station at point-blank range
2010.02.20 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A 57-year-old Christian shopkeeper is kidnapped and brutally shot to death by Muslim kidnappers.
2010.02.20 Pakistan Balakot 1 3 Three suicide attackers manage to kill only one police officer in assaults on two stations.
2010.02.20 Ingushetia Nazran 2 37 Two people are blown to bits by an Islamic bomb.
2010.02.20 Iraq Mosul 3 2 Three Iraqis are dismembered by Sunni bombers.
2010.02.20 Afghanistan Helmand 6 2 The Taliban open fire on a group of police officers clearing a poppy field, killing six.
2010.02.20 Bangladesh Baghaichhari 8 200 At least eight people are killed when Muslim villagers riot against Christian and Buddhist neighbors.
2010.02.20 Pakistan Swat 1 0 The body of a businessman kidnapped earlier by Islamic fundamentalists is discovered.
2010.02.20 Afghanistan Helmand 2 0 Two civilians on a motorcycle are murdered by Mujahid bombers.
2010.02.19 Philippines Basilan 2 1 Two local soldiers killed by an Abu Sayyaf bomb.
2010.02.19 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 Four civilians are taken down by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2010.02.19 Iraq Tal Afar 1 0 Islamic gunmen murder a cop on his way home.
2010.02.19 Iraq Ramadi 10 15 Terrorists successfully kill ten Iraqis with a car bomb.
2010.02.18 Iraq Baghdad 13 26 A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends over a dozen Iraqis to Allah.
2010.02.18 Pakistan Tirah 31 110 Thirty people are incinerated by a Shahid suicide bomber at a rival mosque.
2010.02.18 Thailand Yala 1 12 Industrious Islamists shoot a civilian to death in one district and set off a motorcycle bomb in another.
2010.02.18 Iraq Mosul 0 22 A Jihadi car bombing injures two dozen people.
2010.02.18 Pakistan Mingora 1 2 Taliban hard-liners ambush a police patrol, killing one officer.
2010.02.17 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Religion of Peace advocates behead two government soldiers trying to guard teachers.
2010.02.17 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Another young Christian is shot to death by Muslim extremists.
2010.02.17 Philippines Mindanao 1 2 A 9-year-old boy is taken down by a Moro Islamist landmine.
2010.02.16 Iraq Mosul 2 9 Holy Warriors manage to kill two Iraqis with a car bomb.
2010.02.16 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A woman and a civil servant are gunned down in separate Jihad attacks.
2010.02.15 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 A rubber tapper and her daughter are gunned down by Muslim radicals on the plantation where they worked.
2010.02.15 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A 20-year-old Christian student is kidnapped and brutally murdered by Mujahideen.
2010.02.15 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 36-year-old man is shot to death by Islamic militants at his work site.
2010.02.15 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A 42-year-old Christian is shot to death in front of his store.
2010.02.15 Yemen Jawf 1 0 A 51-year-old man is shot to death by Shia radicals while eating lunch.
2010.02.15 Somalia Mogadishu 2 2 An al-Shabaab suicide bomber targets a moving vehicle, killing two bystanders.
2010.02.15 Lebanon Ain el Hilweh 2 0 An attack by a Sunni fundamentalist group leaves two people dead, including a woman.
2010.02.14 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 Mujahideen bomb a cafe, killing two patrons.
2010.02.14 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Islamists brutally murder a Buddhist woman and her 13-year-old daughter.
2010.02.14 Pakistan Khyber 3 0 Muslim radicals gun down three civilians in separate attacks.
2010.02.14 Pakistan Sindh 3 16 Suspected fundamentalists bomb a movie theater, leaving at least three innocents dead.
2010.02.14 Ingushetia Nazran 2 0 Jihadis wipe out a young man and his mother near the entrance to a mosque.
2010.02.14 Iraq Mosul 1 1 Islamists enter a Christian businessman's home and murder him.
2010.02.14 Dagestan Novogodari 3 0 A young girl is among three people killed when Muslim gunmen open up on a vehicle.
2010.02.13 India Pune 17 37 Five women are more than a dozen innocents blasted to death by a Mujahid bomber at a bakery near a Jewish center.
2010.02.13 Pakistan Kasur 1 0 A Muslim mob beats a young man to death after his father declares himself a prophet.
2010.02.13 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 44-year-old man is gunned down by Islamic militants while using the restroom.
2010.02.13 Thailand Pattani 1 2 Muslim militants shoot a man sitting on his front porch with friends.
2010.02.13 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 7 A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends two other souls to Allah.
2010.02.13 Iraq Kufa 6 10 A female suicide bomber murders at least six Shia pilgrims headed to a religious ceremony.
2010.02.12 Somalia Afgoye 2 0 al-Shabaab Islamists shoot two civilians to death.
2010.02.12 Yemen Saada 1 7 Militant Shiites ambush and kill a government soldier.
2010.02.12 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 38-year-old man is murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2010.02.12 Iraq Buhriz 2 0 A man and his son are blown to bits by Jihadi bombers.
2010.02.11 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Jihadis murder a 17-year-old with an IED.
2010.02.11 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 An imam at a mosque is gunned down by sectarian rivals.
2010.02.11 Philippines Cotabato 1 0 Muslim extremists shoot a man to death as he is riding a motorbike to work.
2010.02.11 Pakistan Bannu 15 24 Fifteen innocents are blown to bits in a double suicide bombing by Islamic militants.
2010.02.10 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 4 Two Iraqi cops are blown apart by Mujahideen bombers.
2010.02.10 Pakistan Khyber 18 10 A teenage Fedayeen suicide bomber detonates along a highway, killing nearly twenty others.
2010.02.10 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two men are shot to death by Mujahideen in separate attacks.
2010.02.10 Israel Nablus 1 0 A Palestinian policeman walks up to an Israeli soldier and stabs him to death.
2010.02.10 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Buddhist man at a bird singing competition is brutally gunned down by Muslim radicals.
2010.02.10 Pakistan Khyber 1 2 The Taliban murder a member of a rescue team.
2010.02.10 Iraq Baquba 2 1 Jihadi gunmen take down two Iraqis in their own home.
2010.02.10 Somalia Hamarjajab 5 7 al-Shabaab militants take out five Somalis with a roadside bomb.
2010.02.09 Sudan al-Baytari 4 15 Janjiweed militia attack a refugee camp and murder four residents.
2010.02.09 Egypt Menoufia 1 0 A young Christian carpenter is gunned down at close range by a Muslim policeman in a suspected sectarian attack.
2010.02.09 Iraq Baghdad 1 1 Muslim assassins murder a man in front of his wife.
2010.02.08 Pakistan Khyber 1 4 A young girl is killed in a rocket attack by Sunni hardliners.
2010.02.08 Pakistan Rawalpindi 4 1 Muslim terrorists open fire on a vehicle, killing two occupants and two bystanders.
2010.02.08 India Sopore 1 0 A police officer is gunned down by Muslim militants.
2010.02.08 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 41-year-old man is shot to death in his own backyard by Islamists.
2010.02.08 Somalia Mogadishu 10 20 al-Shabaab claims responsibility for a series of attacks that leave at least ten civilians dead.
2010.02.08 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamic radicals target a Buddhist teacher riding home on his motorcycle. He is shot and then set on fire.
2010.02.08 Pakistan Punjab 0 1 A Christian man is beaten unconscious for refusing to embrace Islam.
2010.02.08 Iraq Baghdad 1 3 One civilian is killed by Jihadi bombers while crossing a bridge.
2010.02.07 Pakistan North Waziristan 1 0 An Afghan refugee is kidnapped and murdered by Islamic hardliners.
2010.02.07 Iraq Mosul 1 1 A female veterinarian is shot to death by Holy Warriors.
2010.02.07 Iraq Diwaniya 1 3 Jihadis bomb a minibus, killing one occupant.
2010.02.07 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 2 Islamists detonate a hidden bomb under a bridge, taking out a car full of local cops.
2010.02.07 Afghanistan Mazar-e Sharif 3 1 Two Swedes and their interpretor are shot to death by religious extremists dresses as police.
2010.02.06 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 A local soldier in a moving truck is killed by a Mujahideen sniper.
2010.02.05 Afghanistan Helmand 2 20 Two civilians are incinerated by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2010.02.05 Iraq Karbalah 41 154 A barbaric Sunni double car-bombing against Shia pilgrims at a religious festival leaves at least forty dead.
2010.02.05 India Sopore 3 0 Islamic terrorists approach a police checkpoint and open fire, killing a civilian and two officers.
2010.02.05 Pakistan Karachi 33 80 A Christian family and dozens of Shiites are blown to bits by Sunni bombers at two locations, one a hospital.
2010.02.05 Pakistan Malakand 1 0 A local soldier standing guard is gunned down in cold blood by Islamists.
2010.02.05 India Baramulla 2 0 A civilian and local cop are murdered in a Mujahideen ambush.
2010.02.04 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 A man leaving a mosque is killed by a suspected Mujahid.
2010.02.04 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 17 Three people are dismembered by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2010.02.03 Iraq Karbalah 23 147 A Fedayeen bomber passes out fruit to children before detonating, killing nearly two dozen.
2010.02.03 Iraq Baghdad 1 3 Sunni bombers send a Shia pilgrim straight to Allah.
2010.02.03 Pakistan Swat 9 115 Four children are among nine people killed when the Tehrik-e-Taliban bomb am opening ceremony at a girl's school.
2010.02.03 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A rubber tapper working with his wife is shot in the back by Muslim militants with a shotgun
2010.02.03 Iraq Touz Khormato 1 0 A teacher is kidnapped and killed by Muslim radicals.
2010.02.03 Germany Northrhein-Westphalia 1 0 A mother of four is beheaded and then has her fingers cut off in a suspected 'honor' attack by her husband.
2010.02.02 Pakistan Mohmand 2 2 Two members of a peace community pay the ultimate price when Islamic hardliners blow them up.
2010.02.02 Philippines Maluso 1 8 Suspected Abu Sayyaf militants plant a landmine that kills one local soldier.
2010.02.02 Iraq Karbalah 3 21 Three Shia pilgirms are murdered by Sunni bombers.
2010.02.01 Ingushetia Nazran 1 3 A bomb planted in a kindergarten explodes, leaving one person dead.
2010.02.01 Iraq Baghdad 54 117 A female suicide bomber murders fifty-four innocent Shia pilgrims at a hospitality tent, mostly women and children.
2010.02.01 Ingushetia Nazran 1 3 Islamists fire five grenades into a building, killing at least one occupant.
2010.01.31 Thailand Pattani 3 1 A 6-year-old boy and his parents are brutally shot to death by Religion of Peace advocates.
2010.01.31 Somalia Mogadishu 8 55 A mother and her 4-year-old child are among eight civilians killed during an al-Shabaab mortar attack.
2010.01.31 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A young woman is shot to death inside her home by Muslim terrorists.
2010.01.31 Pakistan Mohmand 2 2 The Taliban take out two local troops with a landmine.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
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thats TWO FUCKING MONTHS.
SHALL I CONTINUE?
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Which church is most likely to currently be harboring pedophiles?
No one knows the answer to this one? Not even a suspicion?
I am going with the jew church.
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Which church is most likely to currently be harboring pedophiles?
No one knows the answer to this one? Not even a suspicion?
I'd say Muslims. They got some weird ways to make having sex with prepubescents legal in their society. Even the man on boy loving. It is really strange.
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thats TWO FUCKING MONTHS.
SHALL I CONTINUE?
No, you are a lost cause on this. You win.
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you knew you had no chance on this, yet you continued to play;
maybe hoping the outcome might change the reality?
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April Fools!
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Lemme get my kakalater... ...
Using current trends towards tolerant social standards of diversity as a guide to holding certain groups accountable for their aggressions, it appears that Luca is gaining ground on his accounts of Muslim Aggression. However, the official count is under review by several sub-committees. Presently our official statement is that Luca has indeed moved from his neutral count. Whether that be towards a negative margin remains unknown.
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blackie, no it is not the Jew religion.
davann, no it is not the Muslim religion.
Here are a few keywords that may simply this tough question:
Law of Averages
Predictability
Pattern
Repeatedly
Familiar
Unsurprising
Historical tendencies
Take a moment and think, think..
Which church is most likely to currently be harboring pedophiles?
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Lemme get my kakalater... ...
Using current trends towards tolerant social standards of diversity as a guide to holding certain groups accountable for their aggressions, it appears that Luca is gaining ground on his accounts of Muslim Aggression. However, the official count is under review by several sub-committees. Presently our official statement is that Luca has indeed moved from his neutral count. Whether that be towards a negative margin remains unknown.
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blackie, no it is not the Jew religion.
davann, no it is not the Muslim religion.
Here are a few keywords that may simply this tough question:
Law of Averages
Predictability
Pattern
Repeatedly
Familiar
Unsurprising
Historical tendencies
Take a moment and think, think..
Which church is most likely to currently be harboring pedophiles?
negroe.
i take umbrage at your cavalier attitude toward my standing in this ''game''
check that website.
the stats knock my shit right OUT THE PARK...
also, your correct answer is, the church-of-rome....
i am persona-non-grata (of my own choosing)
easter dinner gonna be a hoot
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Let's not be hasty now, Luca. Believe you me, I, and my assossiates are just as concerned as you are about this issue. It is because of this concern that we endure to be relentless in investigating these claims, in the interest of fairness, you know.
In light of your complaint, I have appointed several members of my staff to appoint several members of their staff (my support staff's support team, overseen jointly by both myself and my staff), we are all working together on the number one concern: we must seek to understand the motivation behind these rare and isolated reports of violent acts brought out by only a few rogue extremists. Our resolve will not diminish on this task. The time frame for completion of this goal is, as of now, left open and this provides proof positive that our commitment is sincere. We will take as long as needed to accomplish our goal of outreach to these misunderstood citizens of Islam.
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We have a winnah! Luca is correct! it is the Church of Rome that willingly enables pedophile priests to operate within their churches.
Now, Luca.. how did you manage to untangle such a severe mystery and provide this correct answer?
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Now, Luca.. how did you manage to untangle such a severe mystery and provide this correct answer?
a priest sucked my cock when i was 10
(just kidding....
he only gave me a hershey bar & a hand-job)
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it is the Church of Rome that willingly enables pedophile priests to operate within their churches.
I'm still going with the Jew church.
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br-smc/index.html
(http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br-smc/mohel-1a.jpg)
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(http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br-smc/mohel-1a.jpg)
Jew Aggression - +100
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my work on this thread is complete:
davann & liblover have headed for the islamic hills
nigga loves a job well done
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Thus far you have merely provided but a few instances of circumstantial evidence, hardly more than simple hearsay. Foul rumors, and stuff like that.
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you knew you had no chance on this, yet you continued to play;
maybe hoping the outcome might change the reality?
You are so full of shit. Most of those reports are repeated as separate incidents when there was only one incident. Done to pad the list I suspect. And most are in WAR ZONES and are Muslim on Muslim violence having little to do with religious motivations. No more than the USA Civil War had to do with religious differences. I could run down a list of gang violence in most of the major cities in America and attribute it to Christian or Catholic violence. It wouldn't make it any more an indication of religious violence than the propaganda you posted. And American cities supposedly are not in a war zone.
103 murders in NY city this year so far alone. Also a gang raped a 7 year old NJ girl in NY. Should we consider all New Yorker's murders and rapist just based on these reports? According to your warped logic we should.
The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet. Would you believe the propaganda about Jews posted by Nazi's? Cause that is what you are doing by giving these biased inaccurate of the facts reports you are posting. And considering the bias is so blatant most likely it is a Zionist front group paying the bills for the proxy domain. Another fact is that GoDaddy is refusing to renew the website because it is viewed as front for a hate group. However, it is still up and GoDaddy is not afraid of some Muslim boogie men coming after them for not pulling the plug sooner. Many places have banned the site because of the obvious racism it promotes.
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You are so full of shit. Most of those reports are repeated as separate incidents when there was only one incident. Done to pad the list I suspect. And most are in WAR ZONES and are Muslim on Muslim violence having little to do with religious motivations. No more than the USA Civil War had to do with religious differences. I could run down a list of gang violence in most of the major cities in America and attribute it to Christian or Catholic violence. It wouldn't make it any more an indication of religious violence than the propaganda you posted. And American cities supposedly are not in a war zone.
jesus christ.
your ignorance knows no bounds.
first, you bring up kkk & mafia references to bolster your position. (major FAIL)
next you claim that muslim on muslim violence has NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION????
the reason these simple cunts keep killing one another, is that the islamic sect just north of our village prays on blue mats, instead of orange.....wears a different head rag, suggesting some sort of blasphemous intent toward the prophet....
as i've stated before, in my hugely popular song:
(sung to the tune of 'if your happy & you know it, clap your hands'')
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds,
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds,
oh, your mother was a jackal, i will kill you, then i'll hack you,
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds.
all together now.
even if ONLY 20% of that list were true, my position still holds water.
another partial list from '09
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2009.12.31 Pakistan Kalat 2 2 Two oil truck drivers are shot to death by Muslim radicals.
2009.12.31 Thailand Yala 2 0 Two civilians riding a motorbike are shot to death by Islamic militants.
2009.12.31 Afghanistan Uruzgan 6 0 Six civilians are beheaded by Islamic hardliners.
2009.12.30 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two volunteers guarding teachers are taken down in a Mujahideen bombing.
2009.12.30 India Baramulla 4 0 Hizb-ul-Mujahideen gunmen open up on four Indian cops at point-blank range, leaving all four dead.
2009.12.30 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 A tribal elder is brutally murdered by the Taliban and dropped by the roadside.
2009.12.30 Iraq Ramadi 27 105 Twin suicide blasts take down over twenty-five Iraqis and leave over one hundred others with injuries, including lost limbs.
2009.12.30 Afghanistan Kandahar 5 0 A female reporter is among five Canadians killed by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2009.12.30 Afghanistan Khost 8 6 Eight American civilians are murdered by a Shahid suicide bomber at a gymnasium.
2009.12.30 Thailand Narathiwat 3 0 A Buddhist civilian is among three people killed in an Islamist drive-by shooting.
2009.12.30 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim gunmen take out a civilian as he is driving home.
2009.12.30 Iraq Khalis 7 25 Dedicated Sunnis bomb a Shia religious festival, leaving seven dead.
2009.12.29 Iraq Baghdad 4 18 Two woman are among four Iraqis murdered in two Jihad attacks.
2009.12.29 Pakistan Lahore 2 0 A man slits his daughter's throat, and stabs her lover to death, over a suspected illicit affair.
2009.12.29 Iraq Tal Massoud 5 0 Four people are shot to death and one beheaded by suspected al-Qaeda elements.
2009.12.29 Afghanistan Heart 1 2 A terrorist in an Afghan army uniform opens fire on three unsuspecting NATO soldiers, killing one.
2009.12.29 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 49-year-old man is shot to death by militant Muslims at a tea shop.
2009.12.29 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 45-year-old man is gunned down in his pickup truck by Islamic radicals.
2009.12.28 Nigeria Bauchi 3 12 At least three security forces are killed during attacks by a local Islamist sect.
2009.12.28 Pakistan Orakzai 9 6 Taliban hardliners assault a village, killing nine defense volunteers.
2009.12.28 Somalia Gedo 1 0 Islamic militia are suspected of murdered a humanitarian worker in his home.
2009.12.28 Pakistan Chamarkand 2 5 Two local soldiers are killed in a Taliban rocket attack on their checkpoint.
2009.12.28 Pakistan Karachi 45 82 More than forty people in a religious procession are sent straight to Allah by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2009.12.28 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Jihadi gunmen take down two cement workers.
2009.12.28 Afghanistan Badghis 2 3 Two local cops are murdered in a Taliban ambush.
2009.12.27 Pakistan Muzaffarabad 15 100 A Shahid suicide bomber blows himself up at a rival mosque, taking at least fifteen innocents with him.
2009.12.27 Thailand Yala 2 1 Islamists shoot two men to death as they are riding a motorcycle.
2009.12.27 Pakistan Sadda 6 0 Islamic fundamentalists blow up a family home, killing six occupants, including five young children.
2009.12.27 Iran Tehran 9 60 Basij militia and Islamic state police fire into a crowd of protesters, killing at least nine.
2009.12.27 Iraq Touz Khormato 5 25 Five Shia pilgrims are blown to bits by Sunni terrorists.
2009.12.26 Pakistan Punjab 0 2 Two young Christians are shot in the chest after refusing to convert to Islam.
2009.12.26 Iraq Baghdad 6 22 Two bombs, one near a tent distributing food to Shia pilgrims, leave six Iraqis dead.
2009.12.26 Pakistan Karachi 0 26 Shiite radicals are suspected of detonating a roadside bomb that injures some twenty-six people at a funeral.
2009.12.26 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A man is murdered in front of his home by Muslim separatists.
2009.12.25 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Islamists gun down two local cops.
2009.12.25 Pakistan Kalar Kahar 0 60 About sixty Christians are injured when a Muslim mob attacks them during Christmas prayers.
2009.12.25 Iraq Baghdad 10 51 Ten Shiite pilgrims are murdered in three separate bombing attacks by sectarian rivals.
2009.12.25 Algeria Tizi Ouzou 1 2 A local soldier is murdered by fundamentalist bombers.
2009.12.25 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three unarmed census workers are shot to death in cold blood by Sunni insurgents.
2009.12.24 Afghanistan Paktika 2 0 Two civilians are murdered by Jihadi roadside bombers.
2009.12.24 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A Christian is gunned down in front of his home by Islamists.
2009.12.24 Somalia Mogadishu 6 25 Six civilians are killed during an attack by Hizb al-Islam fundamentalists.
2009.12.24 Pakistan Rawalpindi 1 2 A 6-year-old girl is dismembered by a suicide bomber.
2009.12.24 Iraq Kirkuk 4 0 Four Iraqis are gunned down by suspected al-Qaeda militants.
2009.12.24 Iraq Hilla 25 105 A crowded bus station is the target of Sunni bombers, who leave twenty-five Iraqis dead and nearly one hundred more in agony.
2009.12.24 Afghanistan Kandahar 8 3 A Shahid suicide bomber on a horse car murders eight innocent people.
2009.12.24 Israel Einav 1 0 An Israeli father of seven is shot to death in his car by Palestinian terrorists.
2009.12.24 Pakistan Peshawar 4 24 A suicide bomber detonates near a Christian school, killing four others.
2009.12.24 Iraq Baghdad 12 53 Jihadis murder a dozen mourners when they bomb two separate funerals.
2009.12.23 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A bomb placed near an ancient Christian church kills two people.
2009.12.23 Iraq Baghdad 5 46 Sunni bombers murder five Shia pilgrims in three separate attacks.
2009.12.23 Afghanistan Helmand 3 5 Three innocents are cut down by a Taliban bomb planted on a bicycle.
2009.12.23 Afghanistan Helmand 3 4 Three civilians are killed when fundamentalists detonate a bomb at a bazaar.
2009.12.23 Afghanistan Spin Boldak 2 3 Talibanis take down two civilians with a roadside bomb.
2009.12.22 Iraq Iskandariya 1 4 A civilian dies from shrapnel injures after Jihadis detonate a bomb on a minibus.
2009.12.22 Thailand Pattani 1 1 Islamic gunmen fire into a family home, killing a 3-year-old girl and seriously injuring her sister.
2009.12.22 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 37-year-old father is shot full of holes by Muslim militants after dropping his children off at school.
2009.12.22 India Pampore 2 1 Hizbul Mujahideen militants shoot two local cops to death.
2009.12.22 Pakistan Peshawar 3 16 A woman is among three people at a press club blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.12.21 Somalia Mogadishu 5 0 Five Somalis near a minibus are murdered by al-Shabaab bombers.
2009.12.21 Yemen Abyan 2 9 al-Qaeda militants booby-trap an area with explosives, killing two civilians.
2009.12.21 Iraq Tal Afar 4 5 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out four Iraqis.
2009.12.20 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Mujahideen gun down two local cops.
2009.12.20 Somalia Mogadishu 1 3 One Somali is killed in a mortar attack by Islamic militia.
2009.12.19 Pakistan Poonch 1 2 An Indian border guard is shot by a Muslim sniper from Pakistan.
2009.12.19 Iraq Mosul 3 1 Jihadi gunmen take down three Iraqis in separate attacks.
2009.12.19 Thailand Narathiwat 3 2 Three Buddhists are incinerated when Muslim insurgents blow up a gas tank next to their truck.
2009.12.18 Somalia Mogadishu 2 4 Two civilians are killed when a mortar fired by suspected Islamic militia strikes a house.
2009.12.18 Pakistan Haripur 3 0 A man and his wife are among three killed in their home by suspected Islamic hardliners.
2009.12.18 India Pulwama 2 0 Two people are dragged from their homes and murdered by Mujahideen. One has his throat slit.
2009.12.18 Iraq Sulaimaniyah 1 0 A civilian is gunned down on his doorstep by Muslim terrorists.
2009.12.18 Pakistan Lower Dir 15 28 Children are among fifteen people blown to bits a mosque by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.12.17 Ingushetia Nazran 2 24 Children are among the casualties of a suicide bombing. A separate shooting leaves two dead.
2009.12.17 Thailand Yala 2 0 A 2-year-old girl is gunned down along with her father by Holy Warriors.
2009.12.17 Afghanistan Kandahar 7 3 Five women are among seven people murdered by Taliban roadside bombers.
2009.12.17 Pakistan Bara Tehsil 3 5 Three security force personnel are murdered in Taliban ambushes.
2009.12.17 Iraq Baghdad 1 10 A pedestrian is killed by a roadside bomb.
2009.12.17 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian man is shot to death in cold blood by Mujahideen.
2009.12.16 Thailand Yala 3 0 Three men are shot to death in separate shooting attacks by Islamic insurgents.
2009.12.16 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 Sunni bombers take down two Iraqis riding on a bus.
2009.12.16 Pakistan Khyber 4 27 Fundamentalists throw grenades into a music concert, killing at least four people.
2009.12.16 Afghanistan Herat 4 0 Four local cops are slaughtered by a Taliban roadside blast.
2009.12.15 Afghanistan Helmand 2 0 Two British soldiers are killed by a suicide bomber as they are walking down a street.
2009.12.15 Afghanistan Gardez 5 0 Five people are blown to bits by Jihadi bombers.
2009.12.15 Afghanistan Kabul 7 44 A suicide car bomber takes out seven people standing outside a hotel.
2009.12.15 Pakistan Dera Ghazi Khan 33 60 Thirty-three shoppers at an outdoor market are blown apart by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
2009.12.15 Iraq Nineveh 3 0 Muslim radicals throw grenades into a police patrol, brutally killing three Iraqis.
2009.12.15 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A woman is among two people incinerated by a thermal bomb.
2009.12.15 Iraq Mosul 4 40 Four Christians are killed when Islamic bombers target a church and Christian school.
2009.12.15 Somalia Bossasso 3 8 Suspected Islamists blow up a pick-up full of local soldiers, killing three.
2009.12.15 India Shopian 1 0 A 21-year-old woman is gunned down in front of her family by Islamic militants.
2009.12.14 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslims gun down a 38-year-old Buddhist.
2009.12.14 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 16 0 Sixteen police officers are killed in two terror attacks by Sunni fundamentalists.
2009.12.14 Iraq Baghdad 13 33 Jihadi bombers take down thirteen Iraqis with successive blasts.
2009.12.14 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two men are shot to death by Islamic militants, one in his home, the other at a barber shop.
2009.12.14 Iraq al-Manari 4 0 A man and his family are murdered in their home by suspected al-Qaeda.
2009.12.14 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 37-year-old woman is slashed to death by Muslim radicals.
2009.12.14 Iraq Balad Ruz 22 29 A female suicide bomber ends the lives of nearly two-dozen innocent people in a residential area.
2009.12.13 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two civilians are shot to death by Islamic militants in separate attacks.
2009.12.13 Iraq Mosul 2 21 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders two young police recruits.
2009.12.13 Iraq Fallujah 2 15 Islamic bombers manage to kill two Iraqis with a roadside blast.
2009.12.13 Somalia Afgoye 1 0 A 48-year-old man is pelted to death with stones by Hezb al-Islam for adultery.
2009.12.12 Iraq Khalis 1 2 A farmer is shot to death by Islamic militants.
2009.12.12 Iraq Kirkuk 3 4 An IED attack leaves three Iraqis dead.
2009.12.11 Iraq Baghdad 1 3 Jihadis plant a bomb under a family car, killing the father and injuring three relatives.
2009.12.11 Iraq Yusufiyah 6 21 A car bomb near a shop takes out six Iraqis.
2009.12.11 Afghanistan Paktika 5 15 Five people are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.12.10 Thailand Narathiwat 3 8 Three Buddhist women are torn to shreds by a remote-controlled bomb planted on a motorcycle outside a restaurant.
2009.12.09 Thailand Yala 1 17 A series of bombs rocks several neighborhoods. A bomb disposal technician is killed.
2009.12.09 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A civilian is shot to death in his car by Muslim militants.
2009.12.09 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 Two street sweepers are among four Iraqis murdered by Islamic bombers in attacks on a library and minibus.
2009.12.09 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two Christian brothers are kidnapped and shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2009.12.08 Pal. Auth. Jerash 1 0 A man stabs his 30-year-old sister to death over suspected immoral behavior.
2009.12.08 Iraq Baghdad 127 448 Five car bombs, one outside a fine arts center, leave at least one-hundred and twenty Iraqis dead and nearly five hundred more in agony.
2009.12.08 Pakistan Multan 12 20 A dozen Pakistanis are blown to bits by Taliban bombers.
2009.12.07 Pakistan Lahore 50 150 At least fifty people are incinerated by twin bombings at a crowded marketplace.
2009.12.07 Pakistan Peshawar 11 45 Eleven people at a courthouse are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2009.12.07 Thailand Pattani 1 4 A pro-government cleric is gunned down by Islamic separatists.
2009.12.07 Iraq Baghdad 8 40 Seven children are among eight dead when Sunni radicals bomb a Shia school.
2009.12.07 Iraq Tarmiyah 8 0 Six Iraqis are gunned down by al-Qaeda. Two more bodies are discovered in Kirkuk.
2009.12.07 Iraq Tarmiyah 1 4 A woman is blown murdered in her home by Mujahid bombers.
2009.12.07 India Baramulla 1 0 Muslim terrorists gun down a political worker outside his home.
2009.12.07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 11 A Buddhist man and woman are murdered by Muslim bombers at a busy market.
2009.12.07 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Shia leader is shot to death by Sunni rivals.
2009.12.06 Somalia Bosaso 1 0 A cleric is assassinated by suspected Islamic militia.
2009.12.06 Iraq Abu Ghraib 4 0 Four local police manning a checkpoint are machine-gunned to death at point-blank range.
2009.12.06 Pakistan Bajaur 2 2 The Taliban murder two tribesmen outside a mosque.
2009.12.05 Philippines Jolo 1 12 One person is killed when suspected Abu Sayyaf militants set off a bomb.
2009.12.05 Iraq Mosul 5 1 Mujahideen shoot five people to death including a mother and an elderly civilian.
2009.12.04 Pakistan Rawalpindi 40 86 Seventeen children at a mosque are among nearly forty people cut down in a barbaric shooting and bombing attack by Sunni hardliners.
2009.12.04 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
2009.12.04 Dagestan Khasavyurt 2 7 A civilian having lunch at a cafe is among two people murdered by Muslim terrorists in separate attacks.
2009.12.04 Jordan Amman 1 0 A 34-year-old woman, nine months pregnant, is stabbed to death by her brother over alleged adultery.
2009.12.04 India Srinagar 0 0 Al-Nasireen gunmen assassinate a political leader outside his home.
2009.12.04 Pakistan Mohmand Agency 6 13 Mujahideen bombers take out six members of a wedding party traveling in a mini-bus.
2009.12.04 Iraq Tuz Khormato 1 0 An ethnic minority member is gunned down in his home by Islamic terrorists.
2009.12.03 Somalia Mogadishu 22 46 Doctors and students are among twenty-two people blown to bits at a medical school graduation by a Shahid.
2009.12.03 Iraq Baghdad 1 6 Mujahideen blow up a civilian at a market.
2009.12.03 Thailand Pattani 3 0 A 17-year-old boy is among three members of a family brutally gunned down in their home by Islamic separatists.
2009.12.03 Iraq Tikrit 11 15 A Fedayeen suicide bomber blows himself up at a packed market, taking eleven innocents with him.
2009.12.03 Ingushetia Malgobek 1 0 A government official is assassinated by Islamic militants.
2009.12.03 Pakistan Karol 1 0 A Christian man is shot to death by Muslims after refusing to 'embrace' Islam.
2009.12.02 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 A civilian is gunned down in a sectarian attack at a cafe.
2009.12.02 Pakistan Islamabad 2 11 A young man straps explosives to his body and detonates at the entrance of a naval complex, killing two security guards.
2009.12.01 Pakistan Swat 1 13 A teen suicide bomber murders a lawmaker inside his home.
2009.12.01 Somalia Bosasso 2 25 Suspected hardliners toss a grenade into a movie theater, leaving two patrons dead from shrapnel injury.
2009.12.01 Pakistan Swat 1 0 Islamic fundamentalists murder the head of a local peace committee.
2009.12.01 Pakistan Orakzai 3 0 Three tribal leaders are assassinated by Sunni terrorists.
2009.11.30 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A man is shot to death inside his home by Islamic radicals.
2009.11.30 Iraq Mosul 1 3 Muslim gunmen ambush a car carrying a family from a religious minority. The father is killed. Two women and a child are injured.
2009.11.29 Pakistan Kohat 33 65 At least thirty people celebrating a holiday are blown to bits when a suicide car bomber plows into a crowded market.
2009.11.29 Afghanistan Nimroz 6 2 Six Afghan police officers are murdered in cold blood by a Talibani disguised as one of them.
2009.11.29 Iraq Ghalbiyah 1 2 Suspected al-Qaeda bombers take down another Iraqi.
2009.11.28 India Bhopal 3 0 Three people are gunned down in an ambush by a SIMI terrorist.
2009.11.28 Somalia Baladweyn 2 1 Two clerics are assassinated by Hizbul-Islam gunmen outside a mosque.
2009.11.27 Russia Bologoye 26 96 Twenty-six passengers are killed when Islamic terrorists derail a train with a bomb
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another interesting common denominator....
again, as i've stated ad nauseum,
most of the previous listings are iraqi-on-iraqi deaths......more than the ''big bad u.s. military'' has inflicted upon the civilian populace...
ignorant cunts won't acknowledge these little inconvenient truths
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Most of those reports are repeated as separate incidents when there was only one incident.
Which ones? The events span months & years, each line even has a description.
Done to pad the list I suspect.
Even if half the list were padded, the remaining half completely overshadows violent accounts from any other group, religious or not.
103 murders in NY city this year so far alone. Also a gang raped a 7 year old NJ girl in NY. Should we consider all New Yorker's murders and rapist just based on these reports? According to your warped logic we should.
The rape occurred in a ghetto. I'll assume that a majority of the 103 murders also occurred in ghettos. Logic would (does) suggest that ghettos are inhabited by a significant amount of violent people. Refusing to use logic is illogical.
The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
Why is a list of events considered propaganda?
Many places have banned the site because of the obvious racism it promotes.
I haven't looked at the site in detail, but "Islam" isn't a race.
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hb, you fucking heathen,
i want a tally, negroe
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I told you! As soon as my team completes their Sensitivity Training, they will be on the job!
Now be gone with you, racist!!!
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I told you! As soon as my team completes their Sensitivity Training, they will be on the job!
Now be gone with you, racist!!!
you've obviously been indoctrinated by our friend, rev. al sharpton.
prob. got comped at jesse jackson's summer camp , too.
spin classes w/ george soros.
you whore
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I told you! As soon as my team completes their Sensitivity Training, they will be on the job!
Now be gone with you, racist!!!
you've obviously been indoctrinated by our friend, rev. al sharpton.
prob. got comped at jesse jackson's summer camp , too.
spin classes w/ george soros.
you whore
stop with the hatin brutha
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103 murders in NY city this year so far alone. Also a gang raped a 7 year old NJ girl in NY. Should we consider all New Yorker's murders and rapist just based on these reports? According to your warped logic we should.
The rape occurred in a ghetto. I'll assume that a majority of the 103 murders also occurred in ghettos. Logic would (does) suggest that ghettos are inhabited by a significant amount of violent people. Refusing to use logic is illogical.
The vast majority of the events happened in WAR ZONES and just like your ghetto analogy. Logic would (does) suggest that WAR ZONES are violent places. So you and all the bigots who paint an entire religion with this broad brush are refusing that logic.
The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
Why is a list of events considered propaganda?
Many use words intended to manipulate the reader. One person's terrorist might be another person's freedom fighter. Additionally, I was talking about the over all website and not just the list.
The lack of details presented in a list using misleading descriptions should always be suspected of being generated for propaganda value.
If a mugger attacks you and shoots you because you did not fork over the cash it is a crime. However, if a mugger in an Islamic country attacks another person and shoots them because they didn't hand over the cash it is called terrorism. Just because the list says it was terrorism. How can that be believed without any details. Many on the list could have been criminal efforts with no political motivation. It is just being listed that way. You will probably point to the kidnappings of several people as some sort of proof of terrorism. But that is not a conclusion based on anything presented in the list. Mexican gangs have been guilty of kidnapping multiple people for ransom only for their desperate families to find out that their loved ones were murdered. I am certain their victims felt terror the families felt terror but there the motive was financial and not political. Off a list how can we be so sure that people are not being kidnapped for financial reason? It seems to me most criminal activity in an Islamic country or perpetrated by a Muslim is labeled terrorism. And through misrepresentation these criminal acts are being used as propaganda with the purpose of justifying more wars.
Many places have banned the site because of the obvious racism it promotes.
I haven't looked at the site in detail, but "Islam" isn't a race.
Neither is Judaism but if you criticize the Israeli policy you are called a racist. But please by all means. What would you call the irrational bigotry against an entire religion based on what some radicals in that religion do. Bigoted propaganda which is spread with the intention of directing hate at an entire population of people who belong to that same faith? And it is really sad to see how many idiots are all but ready and willing to feed their own bigotry as others use them to justify wars.
Another example of information manipulation:
In the west a man beats his wife. Wife refuses to press charges because he is the sole provider for the family. We call her a batter woman. The man's religion is never presented as a motivation for the beating unless the family happens to be Islamic. When I lived in South Korea it was culturally accepted for men to beat their wives. South Korea is and was not an Islamic country. This may have changed by now as the Koreans have been exposed to more and more western culture. And there are other non-Islamic countries where this practice is culturally accepted and we are not at war with them. Yet the propagandist use this as a reason to hate all people of the Islamic faith. So should we have stopped trading with South Korea over this issue and why isn't it brought up in every country were abuse against women is ignored. In Brazil violence against women is rarely prosecuted as a crime. It wasn't so very long ago in our history when men had no fear of criminal charges for beating their wives.
My point is you will find that there are horrible people in every group who do horrible things. Some even attempt to use their religion or their interpretation of their religion as justification. But this does not mean the whole group is guilty.
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103 murders in NY city this year so far alone. Also a gang raped a 7 year old NJ girl in NY. Should we consider all New Yorker's murders and rapist just based on these reports? According to your warped logic we should.
The rape occurred in a ghetto. I'll assume that a majority of the 103 murders also occurred in ghettos. Logic would (does) suggest that ghettos are inhabited by a significant amount of violent people. Refusing to use logic is illogical.
The vast majority of the events happened in WAR ZONES and just like your ghetto analogy. Logic would (does) suggest that WAR ZONES are violent places. So you and all the bigots who paint an entire religion with this broad brush are refusing that logic.
I don't care if the events take place in a war zone or not.
The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
Why is a list of events considered propaganda?
Many use words intended to manipulate the reader. One person's terrorist might be another person's freedom fighter. Additionally, I was talking about the over all website and not just the list.
The lack of details presented in a list using misleading descriptions should always be suspected of being generated for propaganda value.
If a mugger attacks you and shoots you because you did not fork over the cash it is a crime. However, if a mugger in an Islamic country attacks another person and shoots them because they didn't hand over the cash it is called terrorism. Just because the list says it was terrorism. How can that be believed without any details. Many on the list could have been criminal efforts with no political motivation. It is just being listed that way. You will probably point to the kidnappings of several people as some sort of proof of terrorism. But that is not a conclusion based on anything presented in the list. Mexican gangs have been guilty of kidnapping multiple people for ransom only for their desperate families to find out that their loved ones were murdered. I am certain their victims felt terror the families felt terror but there the motive was financial and not political. Off a list how can we be so sure that people are not being kidnapped for financial reason? It seems to me most criminal activity in an Islamic country or perpetrated by a Muslim is labeled terrorism. And through misrepresentation these criminal acts are being used as propaganda with the purpose of justifying more wars.
Not really possible for either you or I to verify the accounts in the list, but I'll go with my gut on this one.
Many places have banned the site because of the obvious racism it promotes.
I haven't looked at the site in detail, but "Islam" isn't a race.
Neither is Judaism but if you criticize the Israeli policy you are called a racist. But please by all means. What would you call the irrational bigotry against an entire religion based on what some radicals in that religion do. Bigoted propaganda which is spread with the intention of directing hate at an entire population of people who belong to that same faith? And it is really sad to see how many idiots are all but ready and willing to feed their own bigotry as others use them to justify wars.
Another example of information manipulation:
In the west a man beats his wife. Wife refuses to press charges because he is the sole provider for the family. We call her a batter woman. The man's religion is never presented as a motivation for the beating unless the family happens to be Islamic. When I lived in South Korea it was culturally accepted for men to beat their wives. South Korea is and was not an Islamic country. This may have changed by now as the Koreans have been exposed to more and more western culture. And there are other non-Islamic countries where this practice is culturally accepted and we are not at war with them. Yet the propagandist use this as a reason to hate all people of the Islamic faith. So should we have stopped trading with South Korea over this issue and why isn't it brought up in every country were abuse against women is ignored. In Brazil violence against women is rarely prosecuted as a crime. It wasn't so very long ago in our history when men had no fear of criminal charges for beating their wives.
My point is you will find that there are horrible people in every group who do horrible things. Some even attempt to use their religion or their interpretation of their religion as justification. But this does not mean the whole group is guilty.
I only call the lady at Waffle House "batter woman". She don't mind.
No one has said that the entire group of people is guilty.
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name another religion that has women & children strapping explosives to themselves.....
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Israel's First ever Suicide Bomber was a Jewish Young Lady! Final death toll is 12, with 11 injured. The Female Jewish terrorist has been identified as
Sima Fleishhaker-Hoizman
Source: The Daily New, Perth, Western Australia
31 October 1946
Before that followers of the Shinto religion justified suicide in-order to kill ones enemy. You might better know these suicide bombers as kamikazes.
Western culture military units are sent out on suicide missions with little hope of coming back alive and their objective was usually to take out or bomb an installation.
Aum Shinrikyo a religious cult used members to carry out sarin gas attacks in crowded civilian areas which killed the carrier as well as several other people. While not an explosive device the goal was to kill as many as possible.
Not so sure there is a moral high ground for the proxy bombs the IRA used. Provisional IRA campaign 1969-1997, the IRA used the tactic it called the the "proxy bomb" -a sort of involuntary suicide bomb, where a victim was kidnapped and forced to drive a car bomb into its target. In one infamous operation in Derry in 1990, the PIRA chained a Catholic civilian to a car laden with explosives, held his family hostage and forced him to drive to a British Army checkpoint as a "human bomb" where the bomb exploded, killing himself and five soldiers. This practice was stopped due to the revulsion its caused among the Irish nationalist community.
Also in the line of proxy bombing it was alleged that Nazis strapped bombs to little kids and sent them into enemy camps or headquarters. Also during the war spies would have a tooth drilled out and a small cyanide tablet inserted so that they could kill themselves if it looked as though they would be captured.
It is not just children in women who done this sort of suicide mission. Actually until very recently it was mostly men who would become suicide bombers. But it is more or less the tactic of the underdog. The combatant that doesn't have a highly financed military. Most of the historic examples of suicide bombing reflect this fact. It is all part of blow back and falls within the realm of guerilla warfare.
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I don't care if the events take place in a war zone or not.
But somehow ghetto is suppose to dismiss the murder and violence rate in New York.
Not really possible for either you or I to verify the accounts in the list, but I'll go with my gut on this one.
Your gut is being mislead by people who want to instigate and profit from more war.
I bet the women in Japan who jumped off the cliffs with their babies in their arms after the Japanese news told them if Japan should lose American's would cook their infants and eat them. Now how did they get this idea. English literature was taken out of context and sold to them as being part of our cultural norm.
“What an excellent cook!”
~ Captain Cook on Jonathan Swift
“I love babies yes I do, will you eat one with me too?”
~ Oscar Wilde on Swift's "Down Home Baby Cookbook", 3rd Edition
In the west we recognize it as satire and a criticism of the inhuman treatment of the Irish by the British during the potato famine. Swift was saying for all the British cared the Irish should eat their babies so that they did not starve. The majority of the Japanese had no idea that this was intended as a criticism and that no one was really saying people should cannibalize infants.
My point is you will find that there are horrible people in every group who do horrible things. Some even attempt to use their religion or their interpretation of their religion as justification. But this does not mean the whole group is guilty.
I only call the lady at Waffle House "batter woman". She don't mind.
No one has said that the entire group of people is guilty.
First off you are smart enough to know that was a typo for battered woman.
This thread was started with the intent of saying all Muslims are evil. No explanation the incident happened in a war zone or that is was a retaliation for a prior raid in an on going conflict between the two groups in that area.
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The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
This is why I gave up. Riddler has gone so far down the rabbit hole we should just call him Alice. He mistakenly assumed he "won". I do not consider those that are played so well as being winners.
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I don't care if the events take place in a war zone or not.
But somehow ghetto is suppose to dismiss the murder and violence rate in New York.
No, not at all. Violence in the ghetto is a familiar occurrence, part of daily life, and even has it's own flavah. The same can be said for parts of the world where Muslims gather- a familiar pattern of violence becomes the norm there as well. Point being that it's ultimately more damaging to people in those areas when people sit back and claim that it's somehow bigoted to mention this specific violence, instead of being frank about it.
Not really possible for either you or I to verify the accounts in the list, but I'll go with my gut on this one.
Your gut is being mislead by people who want to instigate and profit from more war.
I bet the women in Japan who jumped off the cliffs with their babies in their arms after the Japanese news told them if Japan should lose American's would cook their infants and eat them. Now how did they get this idea. English literature was taken out of context and sold to them as being part of our cultural norm.
“What an excellent cook!”
~ Captain Cook on Jonathan Swift
“I love babies yes I do, will you eat one with me too?”
~ Oscar Wilde on Swift's "Down Home Baby Cookbook", 3rd Edition
In the west we recognize it as satire and a criticism of the inhuman treatment of the Irish by the British during the potato famine. Swift was saying for all the British cared the Irish should eat their babies so that they did not starve. The majority of the Japanese had no idea that this was intended as a criticism and that no one was really saying people should cannibalize infants.
Some of the accounts, sure they're tweaked to fit a specific agenda. That's not unlike what you are doing in this thread. That's why I mentioned that neither of us can verify anything, and that's why I prefer to view the events as an overall and continuing tragedy.
My point is you will find that there are horrible people in every group who do horrible things. Some even attempt to use their religion or their interpretation of their religion as justification. But this does not mean the whole group is guilty.
I only call the lady at Waffle House "batter woman". She don't mind.
No one has said that the entire group of people is guilty.
First off you are smart enough to know that was a typo for battered woman.
This thread was started with the intent of saying all Muslims are evil. No explanation the incident happened in a war zone or that is was a retaliation for a prior raid in an on going conflict between the two groups in that area.
I know, I was just funnin' ya'.
It seems that wherever militant Muslims exist (or go), the area eventually becomes a "War Zone", so I'm not sure why that matters so much.
Retaliation.. how long is it justifiable as an excuse? Would you like to go back to the 8th century, to a time where Muslim slavers traded Spanish, Portuguese and French? Using "retaliation" as an excuse, should the French be permitted to blow up innocent Middle Easterners?
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Israel's First ever Suicide Bomber was a Jewish Young Lady!
31 October 1946
Before that followers of the Shinto religion justified suicide in-order to kill ones enemy. You might better know these suicide bombers as kamikazes.
as usual, your examples are lame & obscure.
btw, the japs enlisted kamikazes , as they were out of planes, ammo & seasoned flyers (most of the planes used were constructed hastily out of wood w/ cloth covered fuselages)
also, dif. story when they were going after armed soldiers during a conflict, NOT a bunch of unarmed & unaware civillians in a coffee shop.
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The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
This is why I gave up. Riddler has gone so far down the rabbit hole we should just call him Alice. He mistakenly assumed he "won". I do not consider those that are played so well as being winners.
rabbit hole?
i've sited factual events & happenings and i get the two of you doing a bad ''tit-for-tat'' show, siting obscure references (the best one was the mafia kingpin killing some guy over an insult, as justification for tens-of-thousands of muslims rioting & killing over a mohammed cartoon)
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The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
This is why I gave up. Riddler has gone so far down the rabbit hole we should just call him Alice. He mistakenly assumed he "won". I do not consider those that are played so well as being winners.
rabbit hole?
Yes when you cite a well known propaganda web site as truth you are in the rabbit hole.
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The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
This is why I gave up. Riddler has gone so far down the rabbit hole we should just call him Alice. He mistakenly assumed he "won". I do not consider those that are played so well as being winners.
rabbit hole?
Yes when you cite a well known propaganda web site as truth you are in the rabbit hole.
Are you guys really thinking this through?
Which parts of the site are propaganda?
This is the same sort of situation you find with stormfront. Because it is socially taboo to be outspoken against an issue relating to "tolerance" or "diversity", the only place you're likely to find lots of this naughty info on these subjects is at some marginalized website. Because there's a running list of accounts of violence (and commentary, and photographs of the violent happenings), because the focus of the entire site is singular.. that somehow makes it "propaganda"?
Sites which narrow in one one topic outside the taboo are usually referred to as "resource sites", storehouses of information and all that. But even though the accounts on that site are probably as accurate as possible. Read about the list the compile here (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/TheList.htm). The claim that these incidents all occur in WAR ZONES seems to be inaccurate.
Unlike this guy.. who was buried up to his head in the sand and then stoned to death.. it seems you guys are pleased enough to bury your heads in the sand and consider the issue done.
(http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/images/stoning-somalia2-sm.jpg)
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Yes when you cite a well known propaganda web site as truth you are in the rabbit hole.
i had you both backed into a corner long before i brought that site to the table.
and, i don't need that site to bolster my arguments.
there are so many sources, it's overwhelming.
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The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
This is why I gave up. Riddler has gone so far down the rabbit hole we should just call him Alice. He mistakenly assumed he "won". I do not consider those that are played so well as being winners.
rabbit hole?
Yes when you cite a well known propaganda web site as truth you are in the rabbit hole.
Sad to say you are right. Propaganda has worked its magic on those who want to hate. Doubt Riddler has any ability to comprehend the book, "Blow Back." Or understand about the collateral damage perpetrated in war zones. Or comprehend the history of guerrilla warfare and how civilians often times are killed as acts of terror. What is worse he is not alone. This sort of propaganda is exactly how the Germany lost it's way. The people allowed their own lack of knowledge and desire to hate to be manipulated. Most wars are like that. Many people become the puppets of those who want to profit from instigating wars.
And Hellbilly who knows the details of the event. You are saying the guy is an adulterer just based on what the site is saying. However, it is possible the guy is a rapist or a rapist infected with aids. Because usually it is the woman who is punished in cases of adultery very unusual for a man to be punished unless there are other circumstances. And yes even if he was a rapist with aids the punishment as viewed through western eyes is barbaric. But you are placing our social norms on another culture.
Curious do you know how they handled rebel's or political prisoners in Zimbabwe and yes some criminals? A country lead by Catholic dictator. They tie the rebel's hands behind their back and fill a rubber tire with kerosene and place it over the victims head then set the tire on fire. The practice is called necklacing. It is a horrible painful death but hey it is Christians doing the killing so I suppose that is ok. (http://www.pathguy.com/lectures/necklacing2.jpg)
I think both practices are barbaric definitely, would I want to live there hell no. I also would not want to fund sending in our troops to force this country to live by our social norms. I prefer to protect our borders and work to fight against anything like either of these examples becoming our social norms ever.
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The web site you got that list from is obviously a well funded propaganda outlet.
This is why I gave up. Riddler has gone so far down the rabbit hole we should just call him Alice. He mistakenly assumed he "won". I do not consider those that are played so well as being winners.
rabbit hole?
Yes when you cite a well known propaganda web site as truth you are in the rabbit hole.
Sad to say you are right. Propaganda has worked its magic on those who want to hate. Doubt Riddler has any ability to comprehend the book, "Blow Back." Or understand about the collateral damage perpetrated in war zones. Or comprehend the history of guerrilla warfare and how civilians often times are killed as acts of terror. What is worse he is not alone. This sort of propaganda is exactly how the Germany lost it's way. The people allowed their own lack of knowledge and desire to hate to be manipulated. Most wars are like that. Many people become the puppets of those who want to profit from instigating wars.
And Hellbilly who knows the details of the event. You are saying the guy is an adulterer just based on what the site is saying. However, it is possible the guy is a rapist or a rapist infected with aids. Because usually it is the woman who is punished in cases of adultery very unusual for a man to be punished unless there are other circumstances. And yes even if he was a rapist with aids the punishment as viewed through western eyes is barbaric. But you are placing our social norms on another culture.
Curious do you know how they handled rebel's or political prisoners in Zimbabwe and yes some criminals? A country lead by Catholic dictator. They tie the rebel's hands behind their back and fill a rubber tire with kerosene and place it over the victims head then set the tire on fire. The practice is called necklacing. It is a horrible painful death but hey it is Christians doing the killing so I suppose that is ok. (http://www.pathguy.com/lectures/necklacing2.jpg)
I think both practices are barbaric definitely, would I want to live there hell no. I also would not want to fund sending in our troops to force this country to live by our social norms. I prefer to protect our borders and work to fight against anything like either of these examples becoming our social norms ever.
Hot for words must investigate.
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And Hellbilly who knows the details of the event. You are saying the guy is an adulterer just based on what the site is saying. However, it is possible the guy is a rapist or a rapist infected with aids. Because usually it is the woman who is punished in cases of adultery very unusual for a man to be punished unless there are other circumstances. And yes even if he was a rapist with aids the punishment as viewed through western eyes is barbaric. But you are placing our social norms on another culture.
No- I read the caption, but have no idea how accurate it is. Given the frequency of shit like that within Islamic cultures it doesn't surprise me. I only used that image to illustrate the "head in the sand" phrase.. but it kinda got lost in that bad post of mine. Posted that while having a low blood sugar event!
Curious do you know how they handled rebel's or political prisoners in Zimbabwe and yes some criminals? A country lead by Catholic dictator. They tie the rebel's hands behind their back and fill a rubber tire with kerosene and place it over the victims head then set the tire on fire. The practice is called necklacing. It is a horrible painful death but hey it is Christians doing the killing so I suppose that is ok. (http://www.pathguy.com/lectures/necklacing2.jpg)
I think both practices are barbaric definitely, would I want to live there hell no. I also would not want to fund sending in our troops to force this country to live by our social norms. I prefer to protect our borders and work to fight against anything like either of these examples becoming our social norms ever.
Mexican drug gangs do the tire burning thing too. Might be Catholics.
Not sure where you're getting the notion that either I or Dragline think it's swell when Christians go on the offensive. I don't hold that notion and haven't read any accounts of anyone here saying that actually.
What I was trying to say in that previous post of mine is that when topics like this go "off-limits", unreported, not discussed in a frank manner, then it becomes taboo. Once taboo, the info appears as "extremist", or "propaganda" since the only outlets of the info are deemed "taboo" by default.
stormfront has tons of cases of black-on-white violence.. taboo! Propaganda! religionofpeace has tons of cases of Muslim-on-Anything-That-Moves violence.. taboo! Propaganda! So where is an open and frank discussion of these taboo topics permissible? Apparently nowhere... that's why these details get shoved to the fringe area, where the loonies are free to present the info alongside any agenda they might have an interest in sneaking in there.
And.. you're dodging the questions I've asked.
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Which parts of the site are propaganda?
All of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position.
This is the same sort of situation you find with stormfront.
lol, stormfront
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Ha!
Could that definition be any more broad?
A list of events, the majority of which are likely true, of violent human tragedy. If someone still needs some "influence" to decide how they feel about these things.. then yep.. I guess that there stuff is simple propaganda.
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Hellbilly buddy, you know stormfront is a bunch of racist nuts. That said, a broken clock is right twice a day.
Try going on there and saying "Jews are okay people, I know and associate with many of them on a daily basis".
Whatever... I know you're good folk and I don't think your a racist or a bigot, but just don't forget to keep your head on straight when browsing storm front.
To be honest I go on there for laughs.
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Hellbilly buddy, you know stormfront is a bunch of racist nuts. That said, a broken clock is right twice a day.
Try going on there and saying "Jews are okay people, I know and associate with many of them on a daily basis".
Whatever... I know you're good folk and I don't think your a racist or a bigot, but just don't forget to keep your head on straight when browsing storm front.
To be honest I go on there for laughs.
Nah..I think you may have misread whatever I wrote.. I've only been to stormfront a half dozen times or so, most of those just as a result of clicking a link. What I took from the first visit was all I needed- that it basically comes down to the members there having an in-house "I Am Whiter Than You, I Am More Racially Pure Than You." contest. That and "Onward Christian-Anglo Soldiers.", "Hitler Was Awesome." etc. I'll pass on that stuff.
The point was that because no one talks freely about the extremely valid topic of violent black folk, the only places you'll find it being freely discussed is on sites like stormfront. That suits most people just fine, as they prefer to avoid those pesky details in favor of preserving their fantasy that they reside in a Rainbow Colored Happyland. So, moderately concerned people may 1) get sucked in to the whole White Supremacy movement, or 2)they may be made to feel so ashamed due to peer pressure that they go all ballzout and deny that the problem exists. Either outcome does nothing to solve the problem.
Be frank about all this shit, find a way to get it sorted. Or, hide the pesky details and keep pretending that there's nothing to be concerned about.. (meanwhile innocent people will continue to be blown to bits, and crime from ghetto shitheads will continue to take the lives of people both in and outside the ghettos.. but at least we were polite enough not to discuss those things!).
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Someone help me with the "you might be a racist if..." jokes.
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The point was that because no one talks freely about the extremely valid topic of violent black folk, the only places you'll find it being freely discussed is on sites like stormfront. That suits most people just fine, as they prefer to avoid those pesky details in favor of preserving their fantasy that they reside in a Rainbow Colored Happyland. So, moderately concerned people may 1) get sucked in to the whole White Supremacy movement, or 2)they may be made to feel so ashamed due to peer pressure that they go all ballzout and deny that the problem exists. Either outcome does nothing to solve the problem.
Be frank about all this shit, find a way to get it sorted. Or, hide the pesky details and keep pretending that there's nothing to be concerned about.. (meanwhile innocent people will continue to be blown to bits, and crime from ghetto shitheads will continue to take the lives of people both in and outside the ghettos.. but at least we were polite enough not to discuss those things!).
I am not under any illusion that I live in Rainbow Colored Happyland. In fact, I know firsthand the tendency toward violence by certain minority members of larger ethnic groups. But I also know it isn’t worth sweat'n. Filling yourself up with hate of a particular group will eat you up from the inside out. It would be extremely easy for me to slide back into that kind of life and that is exactly what I fight against every day. It is a rabbit hole. A rabbit hole that is extremely difficult to get out of once you find yourself in it.
To obsess that this group or that group tends to do such and such is one more step into the hole. Do yourselves and favor and start digging out of that hole because eventually it will own you. Start looking at the individuals that make up the group you are hating on. Once you look ‘em in the eye you will find they are very much like you. This does not mean the really bad ones are going to go away. They will always be there in the group surrounded by a shit load of average normal people just like you.
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That's almost entirely reasonable.
I have never met anyone who hates any particular group in whole. I don't and haven't read anyone say they do in this thread, so as far as I can tell no one has slipped into any hole.
If you're encountering enough people of that opinion to fight against it everyday, then there must be some major issues in your area.
blackie:
You might be racist if.. you deny that black folks in particular aren't dealing with a certain brand of violence within ghetto communities daily... doled out to them by other black folks.
...you intentionally dodge frank discussions about violent cultural tendencies so as not to be offensive.
...you think it's up to other, perceptibly more noble and advanced people, to sort out the problems for those brown people who are lesser equipped to correct the problems that prevent them from living ordinary lives.
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Jokes are supposed to be funny.
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Those are funny.
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I think you may be having another low blood sugar event.
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Someone help me with the "you might be a racist if..." jokes.
"You might be a racist if you start a thread titled, "Muslims slaughter a bunch of Christians (mostly women & children) What a shocker."
Hellbilly must not have been reading the same thread the author of this one has consistently made claims that the entire faith of Islam is violent and murderous.
My point is you can not lay that on an entire faith. There are many places with violence and many different faiths and types of people are responsible for violent acts. You can not blame all Catholics for the proxy bombings or other violent acts perpetrated by Catholic IRA members. Many may even side with IRA saying they are freedom fighters attempting to remove invaders from their country or brush off the violence as having been going on for hundreds of years. And because they are culturally similar enough to us that we don't even blame all Irish Catholics for the violence of the IRA. We are more likely to make those distinctions regarding IRA violence. However, when it comes to Islamic violence no such consideration is given.
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the religion of peace at work, once again...
dumb christians worshipping the wrong god....
JOS, Nigeria – Rioters armed with machetes slaughtered more than 200 people overnight Sunday as religious violence flared anew between Christians and Muslims in central Nigeria, witnesses said. Hundreds of people fled their homes, fearing reprisal attacks.
The bodies of the dead — including many women and children — lined dusty streets in three mostly Christian villages south of the regional capital of Jos, local journalists and a civil rights group said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100307/ap_on_re_af/af_nigeria_violence
That's the initial post in the thread.
It doesn't say that all followers of the religion of peace are guilty, but it does lay blame at the "religion of peace" and I'd have to agree that is probably the cause. Nigeria is majority Muslim, the Christians were slaughtered.. I'd say this is more than just a case of bad neighbors.
Why don't we just ask dragline how he feels about it? That might put a rest to the accusation that he thinks 100% of Muslims are evil killers.
Your comment about the IRA bombers proves that your logic functions just like mine does. You are able to identify a specific group of people within a religion who are known for violence. You are able to name the group without any feelings of guilt. Is this because the IRA doesn't have that hip "underdog" status? Is it easier to call out that violent group by name because is isn't socially taboo? Is it easier to do so because that group isn't "brown people" ?
Speaking of "brown people".. did all of you white people ask those "brown people" if it was OK to call them that? tsk tsk.. collectivisk.
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i'll weigh in, hb.
no, i don't claim ALL MUSLIMS ARE EVIL.
BUUUTTTT:
the PREDOMINANCE of terroristic activities of late (pick a year....could we start w/ 1979?) are perpetrated by MUSLIMS.
there most certainly is a disturbing trend at work here, apart from the occasional lady-jew bomber, or mafia ''don'' hit, or timmy mcveigh, unabomber, abortion-clinic killers, which are so far apart, as not to be a concern for anyone in particular.
the examples provided by davann & liblover to counterpoint my examples, pale in comparison to the worldwide madness that has infected the islamic faith.
they are the ones w/ their heads stuck down the ''rabbit hole'', as to be so obtuse to the facts swirling around them.
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"You might be a racist if you start a thread titled, "Muslims slaughter a bunch of Christians (mostly women & children) What a shocker."
suck my big red-neck cock, bitch.
you've lowered your rebuttal quality exponentially, as you've run out of argument.....
(so i indulged myself w/ same)
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I expect that when I check the papas tomorrow, I'll read a couple of stories about some radical Muslims killing a bunch of non-Muslims somewhere in the world. I have been reading these headlines for as long as I can read. I remember very well when I was a child in the Sixties reading about Muslims blowing up busses filled with women an children in Israel.
Hell, for some of these people, murder is practically a sacrament.
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i'll weigh in, hb.
no, i don't claim ALL MUSLIMS ARE EVIL.
The white ones seem to be mostly harmless.
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It doesn't say that all followers of the religion of peace are guilty, but it does lay blame at the "religion of peace" and I'd have to agree that is probably the cause. Nigeria is majority Muslim, the Christians were slaughtered.. I'd say this is more than just a case of bad neighbors.
Nigeria is majority black, blacks were slaughtered. What about the extremely valid topic of black violence?
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It doesn't say that all followers of the religion of peace are guilty, but it does lay blame at the "religion of peace" and I'd have to agree that is probably the cause. Nigeria is majority Muslim, the Christians were slaughtered.. I'd say this is more than just a case of bad neighbors.
Nigeria is majority black, blacks were slaughtered. What about the extremely valid topic of black violence?
I'm always up for learning some new facts.. what did you have to offer?
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I expect that when I check the papas tomorrow, I'll read a couple of stories about some radical Muslims killing a bunch of non-Muslims somewhere in the world. I have been reading these headlines for as long as I can read.
short & right to the point, mike
nail-on-head
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The white ones seem to be mostly harmless.
more nonsensical ramblings from capt. douchey
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It doesn't say that all followers of the religion of peace are guilty, but it does lay blame at the "religion of peace" and I'd have to agree that is probably the cause. Nigeria is majority Muslim, the Christians were slaughtered.. I'd say this is more than just a case of bad neighbors.
Nigeria is majority black, blacks were slaughtered. What about the extremely valid topic of black violence?
I'm always up for learning some new facts.. what did you have to offer?
I don't have new facts, just the same old ones you present.
Fact: Black folk chimp out more often than non-black folk.
Let's talks freely about the extremely valid topic of violent black folk. Or we can hide the pesky details and keep pretending that there's nothing to be concerned about.
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The white ones seem to be mostly harmless.
more nonsensical ramblings from capt. douchey
Of all the incidents you posted, how many were done by white people?
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Let's talks freely about the extremely valid topic of violent black folk. Or we can hide the pesky details and keep pretending that there's nothing to be concerned about.
knock your tits off........
on your OWN thread
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Of all the incidents you posted, how many were done by white people?
not like i culled the list to weed out white people, blackie...
quite simply, there prob. aren't too many white muslims....
simple fact of the matter is, many 3rd world cultures are backwards & barbaric by civilized standards.....stonings, cutting off body parts for various offenses, honor killings, genital mutilations.....(big list, i won't bore everyone w/ a pageful)
therefore, this suicide bombing & killing innocent people is quite normal for these people.
violence is ingrained in their dna
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violence is ingrained in their dna
Exactly, it is probably genetic, not the religion.
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violence is ingrained in their dna
Exactly, it is probably genetic, not the religion.
cmon blacko, it's not that easy, and you know it
they are barbaric by nature, but the common denominator IS the religion.
you can't tell me you haven't heard or read a million times, ''in the name of allah'', or ''we will kill the infidels, god willing''
their rationale for killing infidels or ''martyring'' themselves w/ a bomb belt is ALWAYS their precious islam
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violence is ingrained in their dna
Exactly, it is probably genetic, not the religion.
cmon blacko, it's not that easy, and you know it
they are barbaric by nature, but the common denominator IS the religion.
But maybe Islam + black = double bad
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islamic niggas be double pipe-hittin crazy
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From personal experience the numerous Muslims I know personally are good people. That is what I have to go on. We all know news outlets rarely tell the whole story and in many cases get very basic facts wrong.
I do not understand why anyone would be surpised by the violence. If you get in the face everyday don't you think eventually you would do something to the person hitting you?
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BUUUTTTT:
the PREDOMINANCE of terroristic activities of late (pick a year....could we start w/ 1979?) are perpetrated by MUSLIMS.
there most certainly is a disturbing trend at work here, apart from the occasional lady-jew bomber, or mafia ''don'' hit, or timmy mcveigh, unabomber, abortion-clinic killers, which are so far apart, as not to be a concern for anyone in particular.
the examples provided by davann & liblover to counterpoint my examples, pale in comparison to the worldwide madness that has infected the islamic faith.
they are the ones w/ their heads stuck down the ''rabbit hole'', as to be so obtuse to the facts swirling around them.
Hey dumbass the raid that started this thread was a retaliation raid on Christians which had terrorized and raided an Islamic village. Which was probably a retaliation for some other raid and that was a retaliation on and on just like the Hatfields and the McCoys a tit for tat situation upon which you are taking sides.
Israel has been perpetrating terrorism on a daily basis on Muslims with the lame excuse that all the little kids and women they kill are just collateral damage. Oh and all the Christians IDF happens to murder are collateral damage as well. How about all the death that is rained down on the Middle East by USA sanctions. How accommodating do you think American's would be if China invaded the USA and placed their companies in charge of USA natural resources? You would find yes men who would collaborate with the invaders but you would also find insurgents that the Chinese would consider them terrorist. And if the situation got desperate enough civilians would likely be targeted.
Also what you pull out of your ass as some sort of proof against a religion are from places that are WAR ZONES. WAR ZONES are always violent hence the name WAR ZONES. You haven't proven anything other than the fact you are a BIGOT who will buy anything that Zionist or AIPAC fund to fan the flames of hate. The truth is Zionist and those influenced by Zionist have killed 10 times as many innocent people. The murders of Muslims are rarely if ever reported in western media.
Since 2000 in Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, 124 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians over the same period of time 1441 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis. That is 11 times as many Muslims have been murdered by Zionist as have Jews been killed by Muslims. This is a complete list of those children killed on both sides. http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2009.html (http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2009.html)
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http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2009.html (http://www.rememberthesechildren.org/remember2009.html)
That's fucking disturbing.. this is the news that should make headlines, to show how idiotic the whole affair is between the people on each side there.
At the same time, I have a real problem sorting it out in my head.. how exactly do people expect wars to be fought in "friendly" ways? A show on NPR that I listened to recently had a guy going on about how drones really are the best means to conduct a war properly in Iraq. Basically he'd said that this was preferable to mass bombings since drones can be more efficient killing machines in that they can zero in on a certain mark.
I dunno.. either you are at war, or you aren't. Go eliminate your enemies, or don't.. why put forth such an effort to play nice, to put a friendly face on war, when ultimately your goal is to slaughter the other guy.. decade after decade of the same squabbles between the same people in the same regions. Blood, blood, blood.
Although it can't be skewed as being "nice", I think I actually prefer the Roman style of war, where the losing side is eliminated entirely- even to the point that rivers were diverted to erase any sign of the existence of the former enemy. That sort of war might end up having people work out their differences quickly and peacefully.
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At the same time, I have a real problem sorting it out in my head.. how exactly do people expect wars to be fought in "friendly" ways?
Maybe paint smiley faces on the bombs. Or, have one plane drop bombs, and the next drop fliers that say "Sorry!"
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Although it can't be skewed as being "nice", I think I actually prefer the Roman style of war, where the losing side is eliminated entirely- even to the point that rivers were diverted to erase any sign of the existence of the former enemy. That sort of war might end up having people work out their differences quickly and peacefully.
Where did you get that was the Roman style of war? If it was then there wouldn't be any Jews, Christians or Muslims. The Romans would take over setup local puppets like Harrod in Israel and Cleopatra in Eygpt and extract tribute as well as slaves. They did not go in and kill an entire race of people. That sort of warfare is part of the atrocities documented in the Bible and attributed to early Israelites as sanctioned by God.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and shown "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."
JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho men, women, and children with the edge of the sword.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land ...; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."
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Although it can't be skewed as being "nice", I think I actually prefer the Roman style of war, where the losing side is eliminated entirely- even to the point that rivers were diverted to erase any sign of the existence of the former enemy. That sort of war might end up having people work out their differences quickly and peacefully.
Besides being wrong about the Roman style of war as LL pointed out, is it safe to say you admire Hitler for the way he handled the Jews and other "undesirables"?
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Not sure where I came across the idea that it was Roman, something I read a long time ago. I've been wrong plenty of times though. What I'd read was that the Romans.. I guess.. would wipe out the people, livestock, pets.. everything, and then attempt to eliminate any sign of the former enemy. Dunno.
Sorry blackie, I don't admire Hitler in any way.
I guess it's nicer to kill thousands over a period of decades rather than kill the same amount or less all at once.
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The Romans did use the style of warfare a few times, but they did also install puppet governments as well.
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Sorry blackie, I don't admire Hitler in any way.
Hitler must have been good at a few things. I never looked into it. He was pretty good at public speaking.
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Sorry blackie, I don't admire Hitler in any way.
Hitler must have been good at a few things. I never looked into it. He was pretty good at public speaking.
(http://z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/D/A/1/hitler47.jpg)
I've been killing people ever since I was this tall....
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While the name Hitler is denounced by virtually every person, most will accept the dictator's tactics if given a pretty name. "Americanism" comes to mind.
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oh....hey, not to get off-topic , or anything
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2010-04-17-pakistan-bombers_N.htm?csp=24&RM_Exclude=Juno
EVERY-FUCKING-DAY
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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/957356.html
Study: Palestinian suicide bombers 'not mentally unstable'
TORONTO - In an extensive study of Palestinian suicide bombings, three University of Toronto researchers have concluded that the bombers were not psychologically unstable and were often motivated by personal vengeance, not religious zeal.
The study was carried out by political sociologist Robert Brym, with the assistance of two Ph.d students, Palestinian Bader Araj and Israeli Yael Maoz-Shai.
Writing in the academic journal Social Forces, Brym noted, "The organizers of suicide attacks don't want to jeopardize their missions by recruiting unreliable people. It may be that some psychologically unstable people want to become suicide bombers, but insurgent organizations strongly prefer their cannons fixed."
He also found that the suicide bombers did not experience extraordinary high levels of economic deprivation.
Furthermore, in his study published in Contexts, Brym concluded that a majority of bombers, like Palestinian female lawyer, Hanadi Tayseer Jaradat, 29, who killed 21 civilians in a 2003 bombing at Maxim restaurant in Haifa, were "motivated by the desire for revenge and retaliation."
Jaradat acted to avenge the killings of her brother, an Islamic Jihad militant, and cousin by Israeli security forces.
Brym concluded, "In its origins and at its core, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not religiously inspired, and suicide bombing, despite its frequent religious trappings, is fundamentally the expression of a territorial dispute." Brym and Araj identified the organizational affiliation of 133 out of 138 suicide bombers between September 2000 and July 2005. Sixty-four per cent were affiliated with Islamic fundamentalists groups such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad, while the rest were aligned with secular groups such as Fatah.
In analyzing data pertaining to Israeli counterterrorist operations, Brym said "we do know that of the nearly 600 suicide missions launched in Israel and its occupied territories between 2000 and 2005, fewer than 25 percent succeeded in reaching their target. Israeli counterterrorist efforts thwarted three-quarters of them using violent means."
However, his study found that harsh repression can intensify bombings and prompt bombers to devise more lethal methods to achieve their aims.
"In general, severe repression can work for a while, but a sufficiently determined mass opposition will always be able to design new tactics to surmount new obstacles. One kind of 'success,' usually breeds another kind of 'failure' if the motivation of insurgents is high." In an interview, Brym said: "I'm no fan of Hamas, but I believe that Israel and Hamas at some point have to sit and negotiate."
In a paper to be published in Studies in Conflict on Terrorism this year, Araj concludes that harsh state repression "should not be perceived only as a reaction to suicide bombing" but "often precedes and is a major cause of suicide bombing."
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yap-yap-yap
it ALL boils down to (territory-induced or not)
koran vs. torah vs. bible
same thing in iraq.....(various ''sects'' killing more of their own countrymen/women/children than the big-bad u.s. military)
cuz they pray on a different mat., or at the wrong azimuth, time-of-day...pick a fucking number....
once again:
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds;
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds;
oh, your mother was a jackal, i will kill you, then i'll hack you,
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds
alltogether now
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It's a culture of violence. They're brought up to hate. Everything they don't like becomes some sort of jihad. The soup comes cold from the kitchen, and suddenly it's a jihad against the chef!
Or, perhaps it's too much strong coffee coupled with a ban on alcohol. Mellow out a little, for all our sakes!
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yap-yap-yap
it ALL boils down to (territory-induced or not)
koran vs. torah vs. bible
same thing in iraq.....(various ''sects'' killing more of their own countrymen/women/children than the big-bad u.s. military)
cuz they pray on a different mat., or at the wrong azimuth, time-of-day...pick a fucking number....
once again:
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds;
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds;
oh, your mother was a jackal, i will kill you, then i'll hack you,
oh, the sunnis hate the shiites, hate the kurds
alltogether now
Most Israelis and PLO backing Palestinians are secular.
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Southpark (http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/04/south-park-censorship-.html)
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beat me to it , hb.
i was gonna mention several islamic clerics announce that female's provocative clothing responsible for earthquakes....and the southpark guys' lives are threatened by?????
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....and the southpark guys' lives are threatened by?????
Why.. I haven't any glimmer of an idea.. but this thread sure has gone quiet.
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This thread is almost up there with Christian anarchy is the only sensible answer.
Sigh**********
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Whaddaya mean?
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HB,
i'm officially declaring a win here.
(i wish it weren't so...it's a very bittersweet win)
the limp-wristed, naysaying douchebaggery on this forum, that defiantly poo-poohed my premonitions re: the evil of islam & its infection of this country....
when 2) american cartoonists LIVES ARE THREATENED by an islamic organization BASED ON THIS FUCKING SOIL....
Game Over Johnny...
TIME FOR OUR WAR W/ ISLAM >>>HERE AND NOW
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Dunno about war, but it's certainly time to talk about it, and talk about, and it talk about it until the message is clear that free speech should always trump violent threats.
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1.Create a thread called Mohammed does dogs
2.Post pics and videos of Mohammed in compromising positions with dogs
3.Receive death threats and worldwide attention for the ftl forum
4$profit!
:lol:
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1.Create a thread called Mohammed does dogs
2.Post pics and videos of Mohammed in compromising positions with dogs
3.Receive death threats and worldwide attention for the ftl forum
4$profit!
:lol:
I'm for this. I think it would rock if someone had the guts to host the largest collection of anti-mohammed comics and images on the internet - until the ISP caved to the pressure and shut it down.
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Simpson's did it (http://zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/jyllands-posten_cartoons/)
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HB,
i'm officially declaring a win here.
(i wish it weren't so...it's a very bittersweet win)
the limp-wristed, naysaying douchebaggery on this forum, that defiantly poo-poohed my premonitions re: the evil of islam & its infection of this country....
when 2) american cartoonists LIVES ARE THREATENED by an islamic organization BASED ON THIS FUCKING SOIL....
Game Over Johnny...
TIME FOR OUR WAR W/ ISLAM >>>HERE AND NOW
Actually you are officially declared an warmongering racist bigot.
I pointed out that there were no massive demonstrations or death threats directed at Salvidor Dali when he painted a depiction of Muhammad. There have been numerous depictions of Muhammad some of which were unflattering which didn't receive any attention at all much less death threats. And how is it when the Danish newspaper requested depictions of Muhammad that radical militant Muslims in the Gaza somehow had access to loads of Danish flags ready for burning? When supplies are difficult to acquire much less flags. It isn't like they have an international flag hut on every corner of their IDF firebombed out city. It makes much more sense that radicals incited many of these protests for recruitment purposes. Another possibility is that agent provocateurs were sent in to incite anger then film angry Muslim mobs to get Americans more on board maintaining a war with Muslims in general.
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you seem bent on bringing up ancient history.
dali painted that 50-60 YEARS AGO.
the muslim populace of today is far more rabid & angry than their forebears.
''So what is different now than, say, in 14th century Turkey or in the mid-twentieth century of Salvador Dali’s portrait? Two things: the obvious fact is that information is transmitted infinitely faster than ever before, even though the Danish cartoons in question were published in September of last year. Noting this 'delay in outrage' over the portrayals leads to the other obvious fact: it points to the present-day virulence of Islamo-facism. ''
http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/003319.html
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you seem bent on bringing up ancient history.
dali painted that 50-60 YEARS AGO.
the muslim populace of today is far more rabid & angry than their forebears.
''So what is different now than, say, in 14th century Turkey or in the mid-twentieth century of Salvador Dali’s portrait? Two things: the obvious fact is that information is transmitted infinitely faster than ever before, even though the Danish cartoons in question were published in September of last year. Noting this 'delay in outrage' over the portrayals leads to the other obvious fact: it points to the present-day virulence of Islamo-facism. ''
http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/003319.html
Dali's is considered a contemporary with Salman Rushdie who did receive death threats. They had this thing before the internet called new papers. Dali was internationally famous. He did a lecture tour called, "nuclear mysticism," and excerpts from that were available on University campuses around the world. To publicize the tour Dali sent out press packets with pictures of the art and these went to campuses as well as newspapers. Don't try to tell me Dali didn't do that because I know for a fact they had a copy on hand in my University's library. Muslims were already studying in the United States at the time. My uncle at MIT a Dali fan had a Muslim suite mate in the late 60s. I remember the publicity surrounding the opening of the Dali Museum at St. Petersburg, Florida. Mostly because Alice Cooper was involved. I actually managed to go to the Dali Museum in St. Petersburg when Alice Cooper did his Trash tour in the late 80's which was sad because it was the year Dali died. News and information did make it around globe. It is laughable how stupid you are trying to make the claim that in the late 60s were the dark-ages of information. Another thing bigot the cartoons were originally published in 2005 not last year.
So all you are left with is radical Muslims are more vocal and have a more receptive audience in the Muslim community. But why is that? Years of sanctions creating starvation and hardship, lands being stolen with home demolished, dictators being re-instated or supported by outside forces, wars being instigated which kill hundreds of thousands of Muslims are all reasons why. And how about when Muslims escape the hardships placed on them by outside forces in their home lands by immigrating to other countries they are discriminated against. The real reason in a word is BLOWBACK and has nothing to do with cartoons or art. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Sept_11_2001/Blowback_CJ_article.html (http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Sept_11_2001/Blowback_CJ_article.html)
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It is laughable how stupid you are trying to make the claim that in the late 60s were the dark-ages of information. Another thing bigot the cartoons were originally published in 2005 not last year.
i never made that claim, jerky.
it's a quote from the linked article.
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It is laughable how stupid you are trying to make the claim that in the late 60s were the dark-ages of information. Another thing bigot the cartoons were originally published in 2005 not last year.
i never made that claim, jerky.
it's a quote from the linked article.
It is just as dumb to copy a quote with a false claim as to make the claim yourself. Your obviously able to type and could have corrected the date error in the quote.