Moderator Changes

[Bill Brasky]

No, Brasky, you didn't as me. Not once.

The policy was about a day old. I tested it and was Rubber-Roomed by my next visit. It wasn't a big deal then, it isn't now.

And yes, I do understand. Do you recall me saying that I run a BBS myself? I'm the 2nd owner, it's been up since the 90's. It's had seasons of success. It is a model community of like minded people with similar goals. Everyone is polite, there are occasional flare-ups that are dealt with as well as the usual problem of spam and whatnot.

Even considering all of those positives- traffic has dropped drastically. That sucks. But it's more of a personal loss as opposed to a financial one for me, as that BBS has never accepted advertising (I get offers weekly) - not even a loss really as many members have simply rejoined on facebook.

Bullshit.  The "policy" has been in effect for years.  Its just that we were all on tenderhooks because every asshole with two fingers spent their time worming around it, and bitching to Ian every time someone got banned.

If you admit you were labeled as "racist", and obviously Dragline was spending every day skirting the edge, how is it even a fucking question?

[Bill Brasky]

Highline is now a moderator. 

Good.

[Highline]

Highline is now a moderator. 

Good.

Well thanks guys.   

Perhaps we could all bring our heads together in a private forum where we could discuss how we could improve the community as a whole?

[John Shaw]

Perhaps we could all bring our heads together in a private forum where we could discuss how we could improve the community as a whole?

FTL CREW yo. You should be able to see it now.

[hellbilly]

No, Brasky, you didn't as me. Not once.

The policy was about a day old. I tested it and was Rubber-Roomed by my next visit. It wasn't a big deal then, it isn't now.

And yes, I do understand. Do you recall me saying that I run a BBS myself? I'm the 2nd owner, it's been up since the 90's. It's had seasons of success. It is a model community of like minded people with similar goals. Everyone is polite, there are occasional flare-ups that are dealt with as well as the usual problem of spam and whatnot.

Even considering all of those positives- traffic has dropped drastically. That sucks. But it's more of a personal loss as opposed to a financial one for me, as that BBS has never accepted advertising (I get offers weekly) - not even a loss really as many members have simply rejoined on facebook.

Bullshit.  The "policy" has been in effect for years.  Its just that we were all on tenderhooks because every asshole with two fingers spent their time worming around it, and bitching to Ian every time someone got banned.

If you admit you were labeled as "racist", and obviously Dragline was spending every day skirting the edge, how is it even a fucking question?

The policy, the one that was about a day old, that I was referring to is the word filter.

I don't even remember why I was labeled racist, but it certainly wasn't because I'd used a naughty word.

Well, it isn't my forum, it is Ian's.  I just volunteer my time to help him.

What do you mean by reverse racism?  Like someone calling a white person a cracker?  I would say that qualifies as bigotry.

I think that qualifies as well. It's central to this whole ruckus going on right now, unfortunately.

[Highline]

No, Brasky, you didn't as me. Not once.

The policy was about a day old. I tested it and was Rubber-Roomed by my next visit. It wasn't a big deal then, it isn't now.

And yes, I do understand. Do you recall me saying that I run a BBS myself? I'm the 2nd owner, it's been up since the 90's. It's had seasons of success. It is a model community of like minded people with similar goals. Everyone is polite, there are occasional flare-ups that are dealt with as well as the usual problem of spam and whatnot.

Even considering all of those positives- traffic has dropped drastically. That sucks. But it's more of a personal loss as opposed to a financial one for me, as that BBS has never accepted advertising (I get offers weekly) - not even a loss really as many members have simply rejoined on facebook.

Bullshit.  The "policy" has been in effect for years.  Its just that we were all on tenderhooks because every asshole with two fingers spent their time worming around it, and bitching to Ian every time someone got banned.

If you admit you were labeled as "racist", and obviously Dragline was spending every day skirting the edge, how is it even a fucking question?

The policy, the one that was about a day old, that I was referring to is the word filter.

I don't even remember why I was labeled racist, but it certainly wasn't because I'd used a naughty word.

Well, it isn't my forum, it is Ian's.  I just volunteer my time to help him.

What do you mean by reverse racism?  Like someone calling a white person a cracker?  I would say that qualifies as bigotry.

I think that qualifies as well. It's central to this whole ruckus going on right now, unfortunately.

As a person who speaks fluent legaleeze, I think Ian worded the new policy particularly well:

F. Chronic expressions of direct abuse toward a collective ethnic group of people will not be tolerated. If you collectivize a group of people by their genotype and make directly negative comments about said group you are treading thin ice.  The determination of the words “Ethnic group” and “Chronic” shall be left to the discretion of the moderators.

This allows for discussion of pretty much anything but prohibits the "dragline" pandering that is distasteful, disrespectful, and detracts from the professionalism of the business/community.

[John Shaw]

F. Chronic expressions of direct abuse toward a collective ethnic group of people will not be tolerated. If you collectivize a group of people by their genotype and make directly negative comments about said group you are treading thin ice.  The determination of the words “Ethnic group” and “Chronic” shall be left to the discretion of the moderators.

This allows for discussion of pretty much anything but prohibits the "dragline" pandering. 

By golly I tried my best to hammer it down.

[Turd Ferguson]

I'm starting to think this is Ian's version of the Stanford Prison experiment.


I have a hunch.

[hellbilly]

I'm starting to think this is Ian's version of the Stanford Prison experiment.


I have a hunch.

Ha!


...

If you're gonna have a policy, it may as well apply to everyone - that is what I always say.

Shaw wrote that though, not Ian, right?

[John Shaw]

Shaw wrote that though, not Ian, right?

Yes.

[Highline]

Shaw wrote that though, not Ian, right?

Yes.

Well done, sir.  I think you modeled it quite well.

[Turd Ferguson]

No, I just meant his fickleness in modding, unmodding, re-modding........... all that stuff.


Seems like he's just doing it as some social experiment.

[John Shaw]

Well done, sir.  I think you modeled it quite well.

Thanks, I'd have made a good lawyer had I not hated the law.

[Bill Brasky]

The policy, the one that was about a day old, that I was referring to is the word filter.

The "one that was about a day old" was several years old, the rule itself.  No racism.  Ask the fucking guy, he's here. 

The filter was implemented when I found it, and is irrelevant to the debate.  Its just a tool that I happened to find.  It magically appeared when the new build happened.  A few months prior. 

Heres how that happened, if you care at all.

I, and John both, were sick and weary of debating with assholes about bigotry and general mayhem, directed specifically at us. 

I decided to no longer play this game.  I made a decision, after finding said filter:  Fuck Youse.  I will go away, but prevent shitty behavior. 

I alerted the general populace..  Say what you want, but if I deem it racist or potentially illegal in a very bad way that could get Ian in problems, I will change it, and make you look alarmingly stupid.  (meaning, anyone)

That would require you to forever look backwards, never knowing for certain what your posts said - if they said one thing:  Nigger.  And Nigga. 

I went on to further explain, similar usage to other ethnicities, religions, or sexual preferences might also be treated equally.

But you all know, I'm pretty tolerant.  I mean, come on.

I have a pretty filthy way, myself.  And you all know that.

So if I was gonna wreck your shit, it'd have to be pretty goddamn nasty on your part.

I don't see what the problem is. 

You had approximately 99.99% of the whole fucking universe to discuss.  But you were hunkered down like a fucking scumbag over that .01%

So, heres what you do...  You make your goddamn USERNAME  the filthiest shit in the book.

Dude, I am very keenly aware of exactly what you did.  You looked square the fuck at me, and dared me to make some sort of adjustment of your goddamn attitude.

So I threw your shitty fuckin ass in a hole.

And I'll do it again.

So fuck you.





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[Laetitia]

I'm starting to think this is Ian's version of the Stanford Prison experiment.


I have a hunch.

I'm pretty mild-mannered, so the theory is that I'll be terribly corrupted by power and start roaming the board in sharpened stiletto heels, cracking a whip and delivering severe punishments for minor and/or imaginary infractions?