Militia?

[Brandon]

Peaceful means of advancing liberty are by far more effective, however I think peaceful means only work when your voice is heard. With the NDAA and H.R.347, which are big steps towards the president being able to silence political opponents. I'm having a hard time believing that rational DEFENSIVE militias are a bad thing. Any thoughts?, am I wrong? Is there a line that once crossed violence is ok? Is it a good or bad idea to have a militia with the purpose to ONLY use violence when peaceful means aren't possible? There are examples in history when peaceful means weren't possible an example would be germany in 1940, or was peace an option and I'm just missing something? The only incentive for a monoplolized government is to increase, so wouldn't that mean that peaceful means will eventually be rendered ineffective? I'm not violent this is just theoretical and I'm not saying militias should be used now, I just heard Ian on free talk live say that militias are always bad. I'm having a hard time seeing that and I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

[alaric89]

Would you mind reading through this thread?
I went through what you are about to.
http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/don't-initiate-violence/
Good luck.

[sillyperson]

http://www.nh.gov/constitution/billofrights.html

Art.] 24. [Militia.] A well regulated militia is the proper, natural, and sure defense, of a state.

[Art.] 25. [Standing Armies.] Standing armies are dangerous to liberty, and ought not to be raised, or kept up, without the consent of the legislature.

[Diogenes The Cynic]

The government is better than you at being violent.

[david]

I'm having a hard time believing that rational DEFENSIVE militias are a bad thing. Any thoughts?, am I wrong?

Yes, you are wrong.

As soon as you fight back with guns, you justify an excessive use of government violence against you: tanks, helicopter, drones, poison gas, rocket attacks, whatever it takes to kill you. The stronger you are, the harder they will hit you. In other words, all your militia members will get killed. Is that really a plan?

Could you really pick up a gun and snipe somebody in the face and kill them? That's what a militia would be doing: hiding and sniping. Militias are a lost cause on both a practical and moral level. They will always be defeated and the laws just get worse.

[BonerJoe]

Militias are informant magnets.

[Turd Ferguson]

This is true.

Dont join.

It'll get ya killed eventually.