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blackie

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Re: Mark Edgerton is a fucking murderer.
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2009, 01:06:04 PM »

Jesus fucking Christ, it's obviously Hansen.
That would be my guess.
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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2009, 01:10:27 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2009, 01:11:37 PM »

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Restitution isn't punishment.

Being forced to payback for past wrong doings isnt punishment?

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You were the one talking about tax money.

The government will get involved and it costs money.


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What are you talking about?
Do you really think the government would stop someone from making restitution to a victim?


Depends on the form of restitution but yea. Such as murder, torture, unpaid labor big brother doesnt like certain things. They always put their noses in the business of others.
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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2009, 01:15:04 PM »



Probly not Hansen. 



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Re: Mark Edgerton is a fucking murderer.
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2009, 01:15:32 PM »

who's hansen?
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Re: Mark Edgerton is a fucking murderer.
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2009, 01:16:52 PM »

If Mark held down Ballapuran while Carmen strangled him, did only one person commit homicide?
yes, and the other was an accessory.
I would disagree.

that's fine.
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Bill Brasky

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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2009, 01:20:19 PM »

who's hansen?

Some fool on a bike. 

Search his name (spelled like that) you'll see a few threads.  He also went by 'john' and a few others. 

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Re: Mark Edgerton is a fucking murderer.
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2009, 01:20:54 PM »

who's hansen?

Some fool on a bike. 

Search his name (spelled like that) you'll see a few threads.  He also went by 'john' and a few others. 



ballapuran, as well
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blackie

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« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2009, 01:22:57 PM »

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Restitution isn't punishment.

Being forced to payback for past wrong doings isnt punishment?
If the restitution is voluntary, it would have nothing to do with "being forced". In that case, it would be a moral obligation, not a punishment.

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Generally speaking, when someone says of an act that it is a "moral obligation," they refer to a belief that the act is one prescribed by their set of values.
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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2009, 01:25:35 PM »

if everyone went off of moral obligation or felt obliged to dont you think things would be different? Why have a court or judges or police if everyone offered restitution out of moral obligation. Mankind isn't so humane. Hence i'm sure 90% of the time would be forced. Anyways I just think this is a pointless subject to bring up regarding marks past.
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Bill Brasky

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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2009, 01:25:57 PM »

who's hansen?

Some fool on a bike. 

Search his name (spelled like that) you'll see a few threads.  He also went by 'john' and a few others. 



ballapuran, as well

Ya, right.  I guess it would help to start at the beginning.  

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blackie

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Re: Mark Edgerton is a fucking murderer.
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2009, 01:30:13 PM »

if everyone went off of moral obligation or felt obliged to dont you think things would be different? Why have a court or judges or police if everyone offered restitution out of moral obligation. Mankind isn't so humane. Hence i'm sure 90% of the time would be forced.
Most people don't claim to be libertarians, or advocate for restitution.

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Anyways I just think this is a pointless subject to bring up regarding marks past.
Well, you could just not post in the thread.
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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2009, 01:35:25 PM »

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Most people don't claim to be libertarians, or advocate for restitution.

Hence making my point that it would come out as punishment a majority of the time.

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Well, you could just not post in the thread.

I could or I couldn't what does it matter? Or why do you even care? I can't express my opinion? I think it's pointless so I came on here to talk about it with someone who just curses Mark out like he's the worst guy in the world. He made a mistake yea. But he's no Hitler or bureaucrat. If the family wants restitution then someone ask them otherwise we should just drop it unless Mark's morality really has to be questioned at this point then by all means I'd love to hear some recent evidence.
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Re: Mark Edgerton is a fucking murderer.
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2009, 01:57:41 PM »

He already paid restitution and continues to according to how the government wants it.
That was punishment, not restitution.

Would the hundreds of young men that I have spoken to in Operation Turnaround count as restitution? How about the hundreds of thousands I have spoken to about liberty and morality? Don't you think it would be a hardship to the family if I tried to get ahold of them to restitute?

You are very skilled at your interjections, Blackie. Someone asks what else I could do to make things better, you chime in with an answer, not necessarily a good answer in your opinion; just an answer. You aren't trolling, you are just answering questions. It is a fine answer and deserving of comment; I think restitution takes many forms.

So, have you financially restituted everyone that you have harmed?
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« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2009, 02:02:28 PM »

I think spreading the message of liberty and freedom is noble and great but it doesn't necessarily give restitution to the right people. However I think the point is your doing more good for society as it is right now spreading freedom and opening minds. I dont think proper restitution would be murder though either. I think an eye for an eye makes the world blind.
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