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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2006, 11:30:35 PM »
An anarcho-capitalist can be a libertarian.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2006, 11:43:43 PM »
Quote from: MobileDigit on February 11, 2006, 04:48:13 PM
Bullshit. A libertarian is a supporter of the Non-Aggression Principle. One that supports taxation cannot be a libertarian.

You can have a small government that protects individual rights, and provides an efficient national defense (air and sea attacks), without taxation.  Many people will voluntarily support a legitimate government, and this type of government is the only legitimate government.  Their are some fire departments that don't require a monthly fee, and they don't get government money, yet they are extremely reliabe at putting out fires.  No one is forced to pay, they get the money through pledge drives, and it is all done with volunteers.  Taxation is primitive and barbaric, yet efficient form of slavery.  The "duty" of paying taxes, as it is some sort of debt, is so ingrained in our culture.  Learn how to fix the "slave mentality" and you will learn the key to ending the era where a few rule the many.  Instead we will have the few who serve the many.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2006, 11:46:46 PM »
One that supports the monopoly of police, courts, or laws cannot be a libertarian.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2006, 11:50:18 PM »
Quote from: MobileDigit on February 11, 2006, 11:46:46 PM
One that supports the monopoly of police, courts, or laws cannot be a libertarian.

The Libertarian Party, Advocates for Self-Government, CATO I., and Free State Project disagree.  They are the 4 largest libertarian groups in America.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2006, 11:53:14 PM »
And they are unprincipled mprons.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2006, 12:07:45 AM »
Quote from: MobileDigit on February 11, 2006, 11:53:14 PM
And they are unprincipled mprons.

Well OK, but I'm gonna have to agree with Bonerjoe on this one.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2006, 12:13:57 AM »
Bonerjoe's best argument is 'Because.'.  :P
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2006, 12:29:38 AM »
Quote from: MobileDigit on February 11, 2006, 11:46:46 PM
One that supports the monopoly of police, courts, or laws cannot be a libertarian.

Dude, I never once said that a libertarian government would have to support any of those things.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2006, 12:31:03 AM »
Then it would not be a government.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2006, 12:33:00 AM »
Quote from: MobileDigit on February 12, 2006, 12:31:03 AM
Then it would not be a government.

We've already had this discussion, haven't we?  You can call it what you want, but it won't be anarchy, and it won't be any kind of government that we have ever had before.  I guess if we are going to promote it, we need a word for it. 
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2006, 01:02:18 AM »
If it does not restrict DROs from catching criminals, it is not a government. Sorry to inform you.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2006, 01:12:38 AM »
Wow this thread really spun out of control fast!
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2006, 11:48:14 AM »
Just like an LP meeting.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2006, 09:21:39 PM »
oOO! harsh. A friend from LPCA called me up and was trying to get me to give up on the FSP and go to both national and state conventions this year.
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Re: LP National Convention Coming up in July! (Portland, OR)
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2006, 10:41:32 PM »
Quote from: bushwacker on February 12, 2006, 09:21:39 PM
oOO! harsh. A friend from LPCA called me up and was trying to get me to give up on the FSP and go to both national and state conventions this year.

If you have the money, the FSP Porcfest and the LP Covention in Portland only over lap for like 1 day so you can go to both.  The LP Convention is only 2 days.  FSP Porcfest 2006 is 8 days, I think.

I suggest you save your money and go to the 2008 LP Covention as it will be much, much better than the 2006 Convention.
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