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Title: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: razorboi on July 04, 2009, 10:44:13 PM
ok boys and girls here is my dillema, I have one of the audible.com membership and I got it because usually I dont have much time to read. but at work I have alot of time to listen to my Ipod so logically audio books are good for me.

So what I would liek to ask is can any of you suggest any good Liberty audio books. If they are on audible.com the better but if not thats ok to since I can still get them. I already have "The revolution: A manifesto" and "the market for liberty"

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Zat on July 04, 2009, 10:52:29 PM
I think that Rothbard's ' For a New Liberty ' is available at Mises, may be free too.
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Zappa88 on July 05, 2009, 10:52:05 AM
Mises have a huge ammount of stuff for free.
Right now, they're working on Human Action, and releasing chapters as they're done.
http://mises.org/media.aspx?action=category&ID=85
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: mikehz on July 05, 2009, 10:58:37 AM
"Human Action" on audio?  :shock:

Don't listen to this while driving!
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: razorboi on July 05, 2009, 11:30:19 AM
Why is human action a academic snooze fest? More information would be helpfull.
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: mikehz on July 05, 2009, 05:21:58 PM
Why is human action a academic snooze fest? More information would be helpfull.

Oh, the book is great. Seminal, in fact. But, as an author, Mises is not exactly a page-turner. It's pretty dull going.

Hell, I've got "Mises Made Easy," and even THAT puts me to sleep!
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Evil Muppet on July 05, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
I'm told that Conceived in Liberty by Murray Rothbard is a real good audio book.
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: razorboi on July 05, 2009, 05:29:16 PM
Noted I will have to take a look at that one
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Laetitia on July 05, 2009, 05:55:28 PM
In some cases, it's not the material in the audiobook which makes it a snoozefest, but the narrator. Several of the liberty-oriented books are read by the same fellow with a monotonous style of speaking.* May not bother some, but his style sends me straight to groggy. After hearing Riggenbach's (spelling?) read of Libertarianism: A Primer, I've avoided other books narrated by him, and will just get the printed copy.

*Actually, I should just say monotonous reading style. His tone in personal conversations might be more lively.


Edit:
Oh! For Rothbard, you should check out the History of Economics series in the Mises library. It's great to hear it straight from Rothbard.
In fact, the lecture series are wonderful to listen to. For the books, I tend to read them, unless it's got a narrator that keeps my attention.

I've listened to a lot of books with my Audible subscription. I'll skip a few of the less lively narrators.

The narrators of Heinlein's books tend to be pretty good:
Friday, The Puppetmasters, Time Enough for Love, Stranger in a Strange Land. The lunar language quirks can be off-putting when listened to and break concentration, so The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is probably not good entertainment while working.

Predictably Irrational, Dan Areily
The Logic of Life, Tim Harford
The Tipping Point and Blink by Malcolm Gladwell
Adventure Capitalist and A Bull in China, Jim Rogers
Meet You in Hell, Les Standiford (About Carnegie and Frick)
Stiff:Curious Lives of Cadavers, Mary Roach (DL'd this after Rillion mentioned it - very glad I did. It was fascinating.)

There are a lot of other books, both fiction and non-fiction, but that doesn't necessarily fit what you're looking for. I also have a lot of books DL'd for listening to on trips with the kids. The His Dark Materials trilogy by Phillip Pullman was beautiful. Full-cast audio production - thoroughly entertaining. Not liberty-themed exactly, but definitely appeals to the more objective way of seeing the world. The Bartameus Trilogy by Jonathan Stroud is good too, and is read by Simon Jones, who is probably my favorite narrator.
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: razorboi on July 05, 2009, 06:03:14 PM
I wonder if it is an illegal act to make your own audio book of someone elses works, especially if you didnt ask permission. since in actuallity what you are doing is just recording yourself reading a book that obviously you have.
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on July 05, 2009, 06:07:29 PM
I wonder if it is an illegal act to make your own audio book of someone elses works, especially if you didnt ask permission. since in actuallity what you are doing is just recording yourself reading a book that obviously you have.
There may be copyright infringements if you try to sell it or profit from it, but if you're giving it away free I don't think there's any issues.
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Evil Muppet on July 05, 2009, 06:12:58 PM
I don't think it matters if you are making a profit or giving it away.  It would still be a violation of copyright. 
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Rillion on July 05, 2009, 08:10:30 PM
I don't think it matters if you are making a profit or giving it away.  It would still be a violation of copyright.  

How about if I read the book aloud to someone while sitting at the kitchen table, or in the passenger seat of their car?  Would that be a copyright violation too?  
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: fatcat on July 05, 2009, 08:46:19 PM
I don't think it matters if you are making a profit or giving it away.  It would still be a violation of copyright.  

How about if I read the book aloud to someone while sitting at the kitchen table, or in the passenger seat of their car?  Would that be a copyright violation too?  

That reminds me of when Miramax or some other movie makers tried to persuade people that if you're watching a DVD with your family, every member of the family should have bought the DVD or its copyright theft.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Evil Muppet on July 05, 2009, 08:58:07 PM
I don't think it matters if you are making a profit or giving it away.  It would still be a violation of copyright. 

How about if I read the book aloud to someone while sitting at the kitchen table, or in the passenger seat of their car?  Would that be a copyright violation too? 

It might. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/technologynews/4593784/Kindle-2-violates-copyright-claims-Authors-Guild.html
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: razorboi on July 06, 2009, 09:28:51 AM
Wow now that is a very bad precedent. If they can make it illegal to read out loud. Just imagine all the fathers that are going to be law breakers when they read bedtime stories to their kids.

And or if you wanted to volunteer to read at a library for an audience of children. You'll have to charge a fee, and a tax and more than likely sign up for a business license
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Laetitia on July 06, 2009, 10:06:09 AM
Wow now that is a very bad precedent. If they can make it illegal to read out loud. Just imagine all the fathers that are going to be law breakers when they read bedtime stories to their kids.

And or if you wanted to volunteer to read at a library for an audience of children. You'll have to charge a fee, and a tax and more than likely sign up for a business license

One of my volunteer things at the elementary school for the past three years has been reading to two classes each week. We'd read a couple chapters each week, and get through 2-4 books during the school year. It's too bad I didn't know I should have been charging the kids...
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on July 06, 2009, 07:26:46 PM
"Human Action" on audio?  :shock:

Don't listen to this while driving!
Oddly, I'm listening to Human Action while going around town on my bike. Maybe I'm just a weirdo, but I find deep reads great for focusing. Especially the sections where he lays out Ricardo's coordination theorems.
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: akaPoorRichard on July 08, 2009, 10:37:34 PM
Rainman says, "definitely Bastiat, The Law (http://mises.org/multimedia/mp3/audiobooks/TheLaw_Bastiat.mp3)"
Title: Re: Looking for good liberty audio books
Post by: MacFall on July 08, 2009, 11:32:27 PM
"Human Action" on audio?  :shock:

Don't listen to this while driving!
Oddly, I'm listening to Human Action while going around town on my bike. Maybe I'm just a weirdo, but I find deep reads great for focusing. Especially the sections where he lays out Ricardo's coordination theorems.

I like to "save up" the Human Action chapters until there's like 4 hours' worth of them and then listen to them at work around the time that it starts getting really dull. Great for engaging the mind while doing drudge work.

I also listened to The Ethics of Liberty, For a New Liberty, and Conceived in Liberty at work. Without which experience I might still be struggling to finally reject the state.

Also, Garet Garrett's book The Driver was just read by Riggenbach and released as Mises audio. It's sort of a proto-Atlas Shrugged, and I frankly enjoyed it more.