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Re: Linux Sucks. Java sucks. I'm a Microsoft guy again!
« Reply #195 on: July 31, 2009, 07:26:36 PM »

Bob Robertson is getting more repetitive, less coherent, and less funny, but he did manage to deliver a laugh by forgetting that apache and sendmail are not copyleft...   He doesn't even remember what he was arguing about!

I remember perfectly. Your adherence to the Microsoft astroturf playbook, how Microsoft loves the BSD license but hates the GPL because they can't legally cherry-pick GPL code like they can the BSD.

Oh, and you didn't mention that FireFox isn't GPL either. Really, you should read more closely.

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Once again, I am not against open-source software[/b

As usual, you get to hide behind your qualifiers that it's not "open-source" you're against, just code released under the GPL.

The problem, A.L., you're not reading your posts. Other people are. Maybe, just maybe, the fact that you are constantly being misuderstood (according to you) by everyone else is because they are reading your posts.

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only refusal by some of its fanatical proponents to admit that their emperor is butt-naked, so to speak, and their irrational attacks on Microsoft.

There's a perfect example: You accuse others of "their emperor is butt-naked", but then call the responses to your fawning adoration "irrational attacks on Microsoft".

You, sir, are the one with no clothes.

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Once again, this is a thread about software quality.

Not by the postings you make.

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Government evils like "intellectual property" (including its use against "EULA violators") are addressed elsewhere.  And I entirely expect my infatuation with Microsoft to only be a phase, until the Linux / Java world stops pissing me off so much.

Woops, did I misquote you there? EULA, that's what Microsoft calls their limited use license on their products.

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I guess the frustration with them has been built up over several years, while Microsoft's quality continued to improve.

I've got a non-booting blue-screen-of-death XP laptop on the bench downstairs that says your out of your mind. Such quality, such wonder. Such blind infatuation with marketing.
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"I regret that I am now to die in the belief that the useless sacrifice of themselves by the generation of 1776 to acquire self-government and happiness to their country is to be thrown away by the unwise and unworthy passions of their sons, and that my only consolation is to be that I live not to weep over it."
-- Thomas Jefferson, April 26th 1820

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Re: Linux Sucks. Java sucks. I'm a Microsoft guy again!
« Reply #196 on: August 01, 2009, 09:58:10 PM »

Bob, have you tried Windows 7 yet?
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« Reply #197 on: August 02, 2009, 10:38:58 AM »

Bob, have you tried Windows 7 yet?

No, I haven't. Neither have I "tried" Vista any more than being called in by various neighbors and clients who have it when they need some help finding/fixing/configuring/uninstalling and generally getting this new one to do what they want it to do.

Other than simple curiosity, I have no reason to do so. Simple curiosity is not enough of a motivation, since none of the systems I have are sufficient to run Win7's new "features", and I have no function for it to serve.

Beyond that, I clearly remember when MS marketing declared that Win2 solved all the problems of Win1, then 3, then 3.11, then Win95, then ME, NT, NT4, 2K, XP, Vista, now the marketing department is doing exactly the same song and dance with 7.

I compare Microsoft's marketing hype that to my experience, which is that each version of Windows is just another new version of Windows. It will do some things differently, other things the same, solve some problems and have new ones revealed. Mostly it will just move things around so that it's hard for people to find things to make the new one do what they want it to do.
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-- Thomas Jefferson, April 26th 1820

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Re: Linux Sucks. Java sucks. I'm a Microsoft guy again!
« Reply #198 on: August 02, 2009, 11:46:13 AM »

Please Bob, you just hate Bill because his Windows is too sexy for your 286.

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« Reply #199 on: August 02, 2009, 03:43:45 PM »

Please Bob, you just hate Bill because his Windows is too sexy for your 286.

That's a great picture.

Here's one for the Excellent Breasts thread:


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"I regret that I am now to die in the belief that the useless sacrifice of themselves by the generation of 1776 to acquire self-government and happiness to their country is to be thrown away by the unwise and unworthy passions of their sons, and that my only consolation is to be that I live not to weep over it."
-- Thomas Jefferson, April 26th 1820

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« Reply #200 on: August 02, 2009, 06:29:17 PM »

I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 - it's great. From time to time I still need Windows XP but on a fast PC I can emulate it in VirtualBox. It runs like a dream... and then when I do not need it I shut down VirtualBox and I am safe again.

Java is great if you want to write robust code which will run absolutely anywhere. If you have to program GUIs and you need a strongly typed language then nothing can touch it. I agree that Perl is dying but Python and Ruby are going strong.

But seriously, if you truly care about liberty you'd be using an OS written by people who actually care about liberty. Clue, that's not Microsoft or Sun. I'm not advocating communism - just pick software made by a company which avoids anti-liberty tech like DRM.

I'm not an anti-MS biggot. I use their stuff at work. It's mostly very good. But it is expensive. I'd never use it at home. Not even if Microsoft gave it to me free.
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« Reply #201 on: August 03, 2009, 03:51:47 PM »

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I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 - it's great.

Unless you've got a laptop with an ath9k based wifi chipset, in which case it suck ass bigtime.

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From time to time I still need Windows XP but on a fast PC I can emulate it in VirtualBox. It runs like a dream... and then when I do not need it I shut down VirtualBox and I am safe again.

The super vast majority of people do not NEED Windows. Most people who don't migrate WANT Windows, and often the reason cited is gaming. Virtualization fails for gaming, at least for now, since the virtualized card sucks ass.

And safe from WHAT? Viruses are installed as a result of stupid user behavior such as installing applications from unknown sources or running unneeded apps (i.e. Flash on all the time). Windows CAN run in a way that requires user stupidity to fuck up and the same stupid ass user can fuck up Linux (Seriously, how many people have run 'rm -rf /' after hearing someone tell them to in an IRC channel).

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Java is great if you want to write robust code which will run absolutely anywhere. If you have to program GUIs and you need a strongly typed language then nothing can touch it. I agree that Perl is dying but Python and Ruby are going strong.

*cough* C# */cough*

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But seriously, if you truly care about liberty you'd be using an OS written by people who actually care about liberty.

And what the FUCK OS would that be? Linux, written by "I guess I'm a socialist" Torvalds + the aid of Richard Stallman?

OpenBSD is about as close to an OS written by people who actually care about liberty and that's really only because I've had extensive chats with Theo DeRaadt, and I'd contain that freedom ONLY to the ability to choose and a refusal to use copyright as a means to spread the use of code he writes.

And that ignores that OpenBSD sucks as a desktop OS.
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« Reply #202 on: August 08, 2009, 11:06:37 AM »

This

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« Reply #203 on: August 08, 2009, 11:15:44 AM »

woo hoo

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« Reply #204 on: August 08, 2009, 12:40:39 PM »

In a Toronto subway


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« Reply #205 on: August 08, 2009, 01:43:19 PM »

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I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 - it's great.

Unless you've got a laptop with an ath9k based wifi chipset, in which case it suck ass bigtime.

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From time to time I still need Windows XP but on a fast PC I can emulate it in VirtualBox. It runs like a dream... and then when I do not need it I shut down VirtualBox and I am safe again.

The super vast majority of people do not NEED Windows. Most people who don't migrate WANT Windows, and often the reason cited is gaming. Virtualization fails for gaming, at least for now, since the virtualized card sucks ass.

And safe from WHAT? Viruses are installed as a result of stupid user behavior such as installing applications from unknown sources or running unneeded apps (i.e. Flash on all the time). Windows CAN run in a way that requires user stupidity to fuck up and the same stupid ass user can fuck up Linux (Seriously, how many people have run 'rm -rf /' after hearing someone tell them to in an IRC channel).

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Java is great if you want to write robust code which will run absolutely anywhere. If you have to program GUIs and you need a strongly typed language then nothing can touch it. I agree that Perl is dying but Python and Ruby are going strong.

*cough* C# */cough*

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But seriously, if you truly care about liberty you'd be using an OS written by people who actually care about liberty.

And what the FUCK OS would that be? Linux, written by "I guess I'm a socialist" Torvalds + the aid of Richard Stallman?

OpenBSD is about as close to an OS written by people who actually care about liberty and that's really only because I've had extensive chats with Theo DeRaadt, and I'd contain that freedom ONLY to the ability to choose and a refusal to use copyright as a means to spread the use of code he writes.

And that ignores that OpenBSD sucks as a desktop OS.

This.


And more news of Microsoft gradually turning in the right direction - from Slashdot -- Microsoft Finally Joins HTML 5 Standard Efforts --

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On Friday, Microsoft posted to a mailing list that IE developers are reviewing the HTML 5 standard for future versions of Internet Explorer.

They've given some feedback on the current editor's draft, saying that they "have more questions than answers" and criticizing many of HTML 5's new tags, like <header>, <footer> and <aside>, calling them "arbitrary" or unnecessary.  It remains to be seen whether Microsoft waited too long to try to influence basic parts of the spec that most of their competitors have already adopted.

I'm a big fan of HTML 5's <video> tag, in hope it will be a YouTube killer.  I've been running a version of Firefox that has supported it for months, which went stable a month ago.  This forum doesn't support it yet though.
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« Reply #206 on: August 08, 2009, 06:02:16 PM »

classic

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« Reply #207 on: August 08, 2009, 07:24:50 PM »

classic



One hour of broadband to get a copy of XP, 7.5 cents

CD to burn the .iso, 50 cents

The knowledge that nothing on your computer was bought from M$: PRICELESS
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« Reply #208 on: August 08, 2009, 07:36:12 PM »

Stolen
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« Reply #209 on: August 10, 2009, 10:42:05 AM »

Random thoughts on above:

  • Firefox is "weak" GPL, sorta like China is "weak" communist - you can get away with some things, but if you step out of line the People's Army is gonna get you.  Which is why Google and Apple based their awesome new browsers on BSD code instead.

  • Not gonna reply to Bob Robertson point-by-point: not worth my time.

  • Linus manboobs - hahaha, no.  It's like calling miniature golf "golf".

  • Sure, Linux is cheaper to install than Windows - you can only download the parts you need, and install it without burning a CD.  Then... you spend the week with a "WTF, this is it?!  Where's the rest of it!?" feeling before going back to Windows.  It's kinda of like going vegan - your choices are limited, everything tastes like cardboard, but you actually believe Mother Earth is very proud of you.  Of course you can't enjoy that supposed virtue for virtue's sake, you gotta find some meat-eaters / Microsoft users and tell them how superior you are.  :roll:
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