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Richard Garner

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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #135 on: June 28, 2009, 02:05:57 PM »

My point is that you're misusing the term "privatization".  It does not mean the same thing as fascism.  You can certainly make the argument that it's become more and more similar in colloquial usage to corporatism though.  However, I don't think you have many serious libertarians using this corporatist meaning of the term.  It's mainly just politicians who want to put a positive spin on cronyism/corporatism.

You guys should note that at the beginning of the survey Caplan writes,

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The word privatized as used throughout the survey means that a given government service is henceforth supplied by the free market and paid for by consumers. It is distinguished from sub-contracting in which the government uses tax money to hire a private firm to provide a government service.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #136 on: June 28, 2009, 02:53:51 PM »

Your score is... 155
I balked on the vigilante justice question.


Libertarian Purity also means that I never get laid, right?





I don't get the problem with the vigilante justice thing. Why should it be OK for a police man to enforce the law but not ok for anybody else?
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« Reply #137 on: June 28, 2009, 04:15:52 PM »

51 - medium core libertarian.

Yeah, so sue me.

I see some limited government as a necessary evil, but want them to just butt out my, yours, and everybody else's busines while reducing taxes as much as possible, and cutting spending to only the bare necessities.   A goverment that doesnt' feel the need to spy on it's citizens or maintain a global military empire far beyond what is strategically necessary to maintain peace.  

Legalized drugs, prostitution, gambling, and guns?  Have at it!  Just don't put anybody else in danger.

Private roads, private courts, private military, private police & fire fighters?  Now that's just moonbat crazy.

I don't fully agree with the absolute, dogmatic, anarchic Libertarians.  But I still appreciate them as a balance of ideas, because there's a lot of Socialists, Communists, and Facists tugging on the rope at the other side.



Join the medium-core libertarian club.  75 here.  All you people are crazy :P

I'd like to see your answers - I can't see how anybody could score that low and really be a libertarian!

There are a lot of questions where I take a middle ground and didn't want to push just to come off as "more pure" (eg, private roads and vigilante justice, especially against government people...it depends on the circumstance).  I'm an incrementalist and wouldn't support jumping into a lot of the more extreme libertarian positions directly from where we are today.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #138 on: June 28, 2009, 04:59:04 PM »

51 - medium core libertarian.

Yeah, so sue me.

I see some limited government as a necessary evil, but want them to just butt out my, yours, and everybody else's busines while reducing taxes as much as possible, and cutting spending to only the bare necessities.   A goverment that doesnt' feel the need to spy on it's citizens or maintain a global military empire far beyond what is strategically necessary to maintain peace.  

Legalized drugs, prostitution, gambling, and guns?  Have at it!  Just don't put anybody else in danger.

Private roads, private courts, private military, private police & fire fighters?  Now that's just moonbat crazy.

I don't fully agree with the absolute, dogmatic, anarchic Libertarians.  But I still appreciate them as a balance of ideas, because there's a lot of Socialists, Communists, and Facists tugging on the rope at the other side.



Join the medium-core libertarian club.  75 here.  All you people are crazy :P

I'd like to see your answers - I can't see how anybody could score that low and really be a libertarian!

There are a lot of questions where I take a middle ground and didn't want to push just to come off as "more pure" (eg, private roads and vigilante justice, especially against government people...it depends on the circumstance).  I'm an incrementalist and wouldn't support jumping into a lot of the more extreme libertarian positions directly from where we are today.

Fair enough, though I think that the quiz allowed one to be incrementalist, and in fact penalises people for not being: It allows for the option of abolishing all taxes, but penalises for not favouring taxes cuts and 50% tax cuts first, for instance.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #139 on: June 28, 2009, 05:13:54 PM »

Your score is...

86
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #140 on: June 28, 2009, 07:42:10 PM »

Your score is...

123

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91-130 points: You have entered the heady realm of hard-core libertarianism. Now doesn't that make you feel worse that you didn't get a perfect score?
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2009, 05:25:41 AM »

131, not bad for being brain washed into a pawn of the state...

Thank goodness I'm in the most backwards corrupt and cock sucking unit in the world or I may have scored lower :wink:
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« Reply #142 on: August 16, 2009, 05:30:32 AM »

ed vouchers, housing vouchers - these are NOT an improvement over government schools and housing; to the contrary, they are much worse as they add to the bureaucracy.

Answered 'NO' to these, didn't even realize it was the 'wrong' answer till now.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #143 on: August 16, 2009, 05:54:14 AM »

My score was 90.  Mostly because I hate Rothbard.  He was an egotistical unrealistic twat who in the end turned his back on the very things this test requires for purity.

The Libertarian Party may as well simply fold up if absolute purity becomes a requirement.   
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« Reply #144 on: August 16, 2009, 01:25:06 PM »

The Libertarian Party may as well simply fold up if absolute purity becomes a requirement.   

Who gives a shit about the LP.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #145 on: August 16, 2009, 05:30:04 PM »

The Libertarian Party may as well simply fold up if absolute purity becomes a requirement.   
Who gives a shit about the LP.
Well obviously not you. 

I say if the Dems and Reps make it impossible for Libertarians to be on the ballot.  Libertarian candidates should run for office as a Dem or a Rep and do a Ron Paul on the establishment.  But you will still get some who will absolutely refuse to run as anything other than Libertarian.  If you thought it would be easier to run independent.  Forget it the political party bar to entry will effect them just the same.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #146 on: August 16, 2009, 05:31:32 PM »

I scored 159, can't remember which one, but in general I'm a cross between a Misean, Randian, and Rothbardian in many issues. As for Rothbard being a twat, look at the bitch who liked him (Rand, and yes she was a bitch. :-P). He's an okay economist, but a better historian, imho.
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« Reply #147 on: August 17, 2009, 10:22:54 AM »

Actually Rand and Rothbard disliked each other rather strongly during the latter half (or so) of their acquaintence. Rand started accusing libertarians of "stealing her ideas" and claimed that libertarianism was "objectivism with its teeth pulled out". She also made some personal attacks against Rothbard, the specific content of which I do not remember. Rothbard, in turn, really went to work against her statist views and some of her economic thought which he believed to be in error, having previously withheld his opinion on those points of disagreement between the two of them.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #148 on: August 17, 2009, 12:08:56 PM »

I scored 155.  The whole vigilante justice thing got me.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #149 on: August 17, 2009, 06:00:08 PM »

What's wrong with vigilante justice? If it's okay for someone with a badge and a uniform to do it, it's okay for you to do it. Inversely, if it's wrong for you to do it, it's also wrong for someone with a badge and a uniform. The idea that there is something wrong with vigilante justice therefore implies that there is something wrong with justice itself.
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