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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2007, 03:18:27 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2007, 03:36:25 PM »

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« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2007, 04:25:47 PM »

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91-130 points: You have entered the heady realm of hard-core libertarianism. Now doesn't that make you feel worse that you didn't get a perfect score?
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2007, 04:40:51 PM »

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I think individuals can decide to own property (roads) and provide services (police, fire, water, sewer, etc.) commonly at local levels.  I think those cities can also contract with each other to have common roads connecting them for mutual benefit.  Thats I why I said no to those questions.  I think they could be done privately and publicly to be decided by the individuals of the particular community (neighborhood or city).  Wouldn't that still be free market if the services, all though common, were paid for voluntarily, or maybe by some sales or property tax that was voted for by 100% of the residents and property owners.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2007, 06:00:28 PM »

Sounds like Dogma to me.

Put down the kool-aid. 

Sounds like someone afraid of a simple question that exposes the truth.

What can government, a group of people, voted for by people, do for people what other people cannot do for people?
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #50 on: October 24, 2007, 06:21:08 PM »

155, I don't call myself an anarcho-capitalist anymore.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #51 on: October 24, 2007, 06:33:08 PM »

155, I don't call myself an anarcho-capitalist anymore.

Yeah, they got me on that and the vouchers.
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« Reply #52 on: October 24, 2007, 06:43:54 PM »

155, I don't call myself an anarcho-capitalist anymore.

Yeah, they got me on that and the vouchers.

Good point about the vouchers.  It's hard to claim not accepting them as a solution is a LESS libertarian position...it's really whether or not you believe the voucher situation would improve the situation (or go against principle.)  I suspect vouchers shouldn't be on the test--as is the case with at least one other conspicuously absent issue.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #53 on: October 24, 2007, 06:51:44 PM »

Most of the problems with school vouchers I'm aware of have to do with the obvious fact that the state will begin licensing and harassing and approving with this new excuse to do so. But that's not part of the definition of school voucher, and if you hold all other things (licensing, approved curriculi, etc) constant, vouchers are superior to public schools.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #54 on: October 24, 2007, 06:53:51 PM »

That's the rub, I think.  We can imagine vouchers without strings, but will never get them.
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« Reply #55 on: October 24, 2007, 06:56:14 PM »

300!









It was really 142. 
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2007, 07:01:34 PM »

That's the rub, I think.  We can imagine vouchers without strings, but will never get them.
The same can be said of privatization.

Libertarian "Privatize" = Ending state involvement
Statist "Privatize" = Sell it all at once for $1 to the buddy of a bureaucrat making the decision of who to sell it to.
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« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2007, 07:04:56 PM »

That's the rub, I think.  We can imagine vouchers without strings, but will never get them.
The same can be said of privatization.

Libertarian "Privatize" = Ending state involvement
Statist "Privatize" = Sell it all at once for $1 to the buddy of a bureaucrat making the decision of who to sell it to.

Privatization is just another word for fascism, not a free market.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #58 on: October 24, 2007, 07:21:34 PM »

That's the rub, I think.  We can imagine vouchers without strings, but will never get them.
The same can be said of privatization.

Libertarian "Privatize" = Ending state involvement
Statist "Privatize" = Sell it all at once for $1 to the buddy of a bureaucrat making the decision of who to sell it to.

Privatization is just another word for fascism, not a free market.

Do we have to take everything Ian says or thinks as the gospel?  Privatization is not fascism, but hiring "private" companies to work under the control of the government is not privatization, it's corporatism.
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Re: Libertarian Purity Test
« Reply #59 on: October 24, 2007, 07:24:44 PM »

That's the rub, I think.  We can imagine vouchers without strings, but will never get them.
The same can be said of privatization.

Libertarian "Privatize" = Ending state involvement
Statist "Privatize" = Sell it all at once for $1 to the buddy of a bureaucrat making the decision of who to sell it to.

Privatization is just another word for fascism, not a free market.

Do we have to take everything Ian says or thinks as the gospel?  Privatization is not fascism, but hiring "private" companies to work under the control of the government is not privatization, it's corporatism.

What does Ian have to do with this?  :roll:  The gubernaphiles on the "right" have long been infatuated with the concept of "enhancing" the effectiveness of government by giving away sweetheart government deals to their friends.  If you like it too, I'm sorry you're offended by what it is--fascism.  Any assertion that government "controls" them is a fantasy.  Both hands are washing each other.
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