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Title: Libertarian merch?
Post by: thinkLIBERTARIAN on January 07, 2006, 01:45:36 AM
Besides the standard t shirts and bumper stickers, what other items would you like to see used for Libertarian themed merchandise?
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: BKO on January 07, 2006, 02:51:34 AM
A few buttons with the sayings:


"We're still not as expensive to belong
to as the Church of Scientology."

"Give us your poor, your huddled,
your weak minded..."

"Nothing says love more than
a rose bought in a free market."

"Give me liberty, or give me the FSP!!"

"Downsize government! - Hey, it worked for hitler."



Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: MobileDigit on January 07, 2006, 02:58:58 AM
"Downsize government! - Hey, it worked for hitler."

I don't get it.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: libertylover on January 07, 2006, 05:06:34 AM
Brokor seems to be on the rag alot lately.  Broker were the four numbers you got from women on New Years eve all to  Dial a Prayer (http://www.dialaprayer.com/)? 

I personally would like to see more Libertarian theme movies for sale.  For example a copy of, "Harry vs. the IRS," could come with a pamphlet on Libertarianism.   Buy Libertarian themed DVDs wholesale and resale them with the added material.

Artwork for the home and office with Libertarian images that can be hung without being overt.  The person who has the artwork knows what it stands for and they can choose to reveal the significance or not.  And again a pamphlet on Libertarianism can be given with the purchase.

One of our all time greatest fund raising pieces of Libertarian Merchandise was the, "Ladies of Liberty Calendar," this fund raiser actually got national attention.  If you can get the Libertarians in NV to produce a Calendar like that it would sell like hot cakes.  I say NV because most of the Libertarian women there are stripers or prostitutes and more likely to be very hot.

One last item that seems to have some appeal.  Find a normal cute plain ceramic piggy bank and stencil Capitalist Pig on the side or if you don't feel steady doing that just put it on a tag around the pigs neck.  Really you can sell just about anything and include pamphlets. 
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: fourthgeek on January 07, 2006, 07:10:46 PM
Yes, secretiveness is good.

How about magnets? Shoes? Weapons? Plush Dolls? Lunchboxes? Hub Caps? Tattoos? Watches?

How about a more realistic version of Monopoly, where the richer you get, the more gvt. subsidies you get?

We need a secret handshake.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: libertylover on January 07, 2006, 07:21:53 PM
How about a more realistic version of Monopoly, where the richer you get, the more gvt. subsidies you get?

Now that sounds like a challange.  What would you call the new Monopoly?
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: Braddogg on January 07, 2006, 07:51:15 PM
Now that sounds like a challange.  What would you call the new Monopoly?

"The Game of Life."
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: libertylover on January 07, 2006, 08:32:53 PM
That name is already taken.  Back to the board.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: BKO on January 07, 2006, 10:52:23 PM
My post is still the best.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: battlesysadmin on January 08, 2006, 02:28:58 AM
Larry Samuels, a long time and very active Libertarian, has a bunch of slogans for buttons and bumperstickers in PDF format here: http://www.freedom1776.com/artwork.htm. I'm not sure about copyrights, but I am sure that he loves to promote liberty. He makes tons of these at his own expense and uses them at outreach events.

-lois
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: BKO on January 08, 2006, 03:41:29 AM
*stabs .pdf with a pencil*
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: Skooma on January 19, 2006, 01:16:47 AM
How about a more realistic version of Monopoly, where the richer you get, the more gvt. subsidies you get?

Now that sounds like a challange.  What would you call the new Monopoly?

Socialism.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: fourthgeek on January 19, 2006, 11:31:17 PM
Actually, now this is pretty cool. For art, I am making a libertarian version of the children's game  "Operation."

(http://www.hasbro.com/operation/images/SamOperationGameboard.gif)

Except, it will be called "Usurpation", and feature a Statue of Liberty, with her various rights being picked out piece by piece.

Mouth, "Free speech"
Heart, "Freedom of religion"
Hand L, "Right to bear arms"
Hand R, "Property"
Clothing, "Privacy"
Leg, "Freedom to travel"

etc.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: TN_FSP on January 19, 2006, 11:34:22 PM
Actually, now this is pretty cool. For art, I am making a libertarian version of the children's game  "Operation."
Clothing, "Privacy"
Leg, "Freedom to travel"

etc.

That really is cool but you don't have a right to privacy.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: fourthgeek on January 20, 2006, 12:30:28 AM
Isn't it the fourth or fifth amendment that, by judicial ruling, implies a right to privacy?

That is, of course, a statutory right, and not a natural right.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: TN_FSP on January 20, 2006, 12:34:54 AM
Isn't it the fourth or fifth amendment that, by judicial ruling, implies a right to privacy?

That is, of course, a statutory right, and not a natural right.


Quote
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Even in the very begining, the so called right to privacy was very limited.  It only included your house, body, and stuff.  It did not include what others gathered about you or anything like that.  Also, it was not a right.  As it say's, "but upon probable cause."  That was mostly a narrow statement back then, but not always.  Now, it means almost nothing.

Also, I agree.  It is not a Natural Right.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: libertylover on January 20, 2006, 11:18:45 AM
Except, it will be called "Usurpation", and feature a Statue of Liberty, with her various rights being picked out piece by piece.

Mouth, "Free speech"
Heart, "Freedom of religion"
Hand L, "Right to bear arms"
Hand R, "Property"
Clothing, "Privacy"
Leg, "Freedom to travel"

etc.

That is great idea you have inspired me but I will make a few alterations.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: Stoo_Pot on January 21, 2006, 03:40:25 PM
You could have a game of chess where its the bureaucrats vs the team liberty where you start of with a certain amount of money and it costs you money to move between squares.  But because the bureaucrats will always runout of money, they have to hire mercenaries onto the board to try to rob the members of team liberty.

love the statue of liberty idea btw
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: fourthgeek on January 23, 2006, 12:57:28 AM
What do you mean, "make a few alterations"?

I'm doing this for a national art project, so I'd not like them thinking I plaigarized.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: libertylover on January 23, 2006, 01:17:48 AM
What are the chances anything I would create from a seed of an idea that you posted would look anything like you would create?  I have a very unique style and want to change aspects of what you are preposing significantly.  I mean for all I know you could be planning to buy an operation game, pull it apart make a new cardboard graphic and create new game pieces.  Mock up a new box with a parody logo glue the whole thing on a board and call it a sculpture.  Or possible get a couple of kids to pretend like they are playing the game with doofy smiles on their faces like the old parker brothers ads and take a picture to submit.  If this isn't what you had planned and think it is a good idea consider it a gift.  If you could put it together you could even video some kids playing the game SNL fake ads style it could be very funny.

BTW you inspired surpressed chicken but that is all I will say for now I don't want to give away too much.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: fourthgeek on February 01, 2006, 12:42:00 AM
(http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/3443/hpim03561zk.jpg)
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: libertylover on February 01, 2006, 04:55:12 AM
Great mockup on the operation game.  I would suggest that being a kids game it does look a bit too serious.  You'll win over more people with humor than seriousness.  But you will have to gauge this for yourself.  Personally I would have gone for a more cartoonish parody of the game.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: Stoo_Pot on February 01, 2006, 06:10:33 AM
I'm not sure about operating on the sexual freedom organ lol
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: battlesysadmin on February 03, 2006, 07:46:15 PM
Are you really developing a game? I am trying to think of ways to raise money for my local LP, and Usurpation sounds like a possibility...

-lois
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: fourthgeek on February 03, 2006, 08:22:41 PM
I'm not developing it.

Feel free to create and develop on the idea, or sell it, as long as you don't stop other people from doing it either.

Make sure you spell usurpation correctly, i've done it incorrectly on my art piece. >_<

So much for 3rd-grade-spelling-bee-champion.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: libertylover on February 03, 2006, 09:00:38 PM
Don't feel bad 2nd grade spelling be champ and can't spell well now either.  Take heart spelling is a skill and not an indication of intelligence.

Fundraising can take many forms it all depends on the size of the group and the people you want to sell to.  Some suggestions that have worked very well groups I have been associated with.

1.  Yard Sale at a members house with donated items especially if the member has a home in high traffic area.  Pretty much 100% profit.

2.  Pass the hat at every meeting those 1 dollar donations add up over time.  This only really works if you have a regular group meeting.

3.  Hold a special event for all the members in your State and send out a mass email invite.  A spagetti dinner social with a silent auction (donated stuff) but make sure you make it totally a social event.  No heavy speeches or political stuff so that people can bring their families and just enjoy being together.  Something like a homecoming leave the heavy political stuff for the State Convention.  Hold it at a hotel or rent a community building, church rec room if you are real lucky you have someone with a really big house.  Create a meetup group and pay pal method so people can pay for a ticket online.  Get people to sign up in advance and pay in advance so that you know how much to spend on food.

Example: If held at a free location like a person's house.
                 20 people pay $10 each you spend $5 on food and drink, that is $100.
                 5 donated silent auction items, with $10 min. bid that is another $50.
    Even with this small number of people you have just raised $150 for your group in one evening.  The more fun you make it for the people the next one will raise even more money.
Title: Re: Libertarian merch?
Post by: battlesysadmin on February 08, 2006, 12:46:05 AM
 :D

You are a pro! I had been thinking about a silent auction, because as you say, items could be donated... especially with the Eminent Domain stuff going on here, I could talk to the businesses that are resisting.