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Title: Kohlberg's stages of moral development
Post by: Ecolitan on September 27, 2009, 10:53:26 PM: I was helping someone with psych homework and came across this

Quote from: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg's_stages_of_moral_development
Wikipedia[/url]]In Stage six (universal ethical principles driven), moral reasoning is based on abstract reasoning using universal ethical principles. Laws are valid only insofar as they are grounded in justice, and a commitment to justice carries with it an obligation to disobey unjust laws. Rights are unnecessary, as social contracts are not essential for deontic moral action. Decisions are not reached hypothetically in a conditional way but rather categorically in an absolute way, as in the philosophy of Immanuel Kant.[15] This involves an individual imagining what they would do in another's shoes, if they believed what that other person imagines to be true.[16] The resulting consensus is the action taken. In this way action is never a means but always an end in itself; the individual acts because it is right, and not because it is instrumental, expected, legal, or previously agreed upon. Although Kohlberg insisted that stage six exists, he found it difficult to identify individuals who consistently operated at that level.[12]

I've said all I have to say about it today. You guys can have a turn since I've never seen it in any of the liberty places.
Title: Re: Kohlberg's stages of moral development
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 27, 2009, 11:00:05 PM: Part of that statement is awesome, and part of it seems like completely terrible and horribly corrupt and contradictory reasoning.
Title: Re: Kohlberg's stages of moral development
Post by: Ecolitan on September 27, 2009, 11:03:45 PM: Quote
In this way action is never a means but always an end in itself; the individual acts because it is right, and not because it is instrumental, expected, legal, or previously agreed upon

This is what Mark doesn't get when he gets on Ian about being pro-liberty even if the world would be worse for it.
Title: Re: Kohlberg's stages of moral development
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 27, 2009, 11:04:45 PM: Quote from: Ecolitan on September 27, 2009, 11:03:45 PM
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In this way action is never a means but always an end in itself; the individual acts because it is right, and not because it is instrumental, expected, legal, or previously agreed upon

This is what Mark doesn't get when he gets on Ian about being pro-liberty even if the world would be worse for it.
I saw that and I thought that was one of the awesome parts.