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Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)

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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2009, 03:00:45 AM »
Quote from: Alex Libman 14 on May 09, 2009, 01:33:59 AM
Quote from: Diogenes The Cynic on May 06, 2009, 11:11:47 PM
[...]  Whats more, of the guys in my yeshiva, the libertarians outnumber the liberals by a margin of 4:1.

Wow...  Given the typical Jewish voting trends, there has so be selection bias of some sort... 

Is your yeshiva special in some way?  :?

Seems to me I know a number of libertarian/conservatarian Jews as well.  Although to be fair I know many democrat voting Jews who don't even know why they vote Democrat.  Just like the rest of the US population.

My assessment is that most Jews are socially liberal and so they vote for the candidate they percieve to be most socially liberal.
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2009, 03:07:21 AM »
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2009, 11:16:03 PM »
Quote from: Alex Libman 15 on May 09, 2009, 01:33:59 AM
Quote from: Diogenes The Cynic on May 06, 2009, 11:11:47 PM
[...]  Whats more, of the guys in my yeshiva, the libertarians outnumber the liberals by a margin of 4:1.

Wow...  Given the typical Jewish voting trends, there has so be selection bias of some sort... 

Is your yeshiva special in some way?  :?


It is a biased sample. Religious Jews are FAR more likely to be conservative or libertarian then unreligious Jews.
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2009, 02:05:34 AM »
damn comie Jews, they make people gay and have a international league of super gay Jews, I wonder if the Jews made Some animals gay  and what about them lesbians? did the Jews do that too?
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2009, 02:58:47 AM »
This thread isn't for making broad accusations against an entire ethnic / religious group.  It's for discussing a specific historical social trend: the tendency to support Communism and become actively involved in its leadership among the individuals of the Jewish heritage in the early 20th century.

Individuals are responsible for their actions, not whatever group they happen to be born into.
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2009, 04:37:55 AM »
Quote from: Alex Libman 2012 on June 08, 2009, 02:58:47 AM
This thread isn't for making broad accusations against an entire ethnic / religious group.  It's for discussing a specific historical social trend: the tendency to support Communism and become actively involved in its leadership among the individuals of the Jewish heritage in the early 20th century.

Individuals are responsible for their actions, not whatever group they happen to be born into.

I'm a commie Jew.  I've come out and I'm admitting it.  Stalin was the awesome.  All Jewish folks agree with me, the pogroms agains the Jews are just propaganda by capitalist pig dogs.  Communist Russia did not mass murder Jews.  Anti-religion official Communist policies are a sham conspiracy spread by the Jewish Lizard Men who turn people gay and make capitalists turn Commie.

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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2009, 06:01:24 PM »
I don't have a reason but it seems that Jews are pretty politically involved or active.  It's true that many  communists/Communists are/were Jewish.  A significant minority are neocons although 50% of neocons may be non-Jews.  A smaller minority but still significant number of Jews are classical liberals/libertarians/anarchists.  Rand, Rothbard, all three Friedmans, Block, Branden, Mises, etc.  The anti-semite who sees Jews involved disproportionately in Communism is making an error by neglecting their involvement in other political movements.  
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2009, 10:40:18 PM »
Find out what the source for that site is and I'll think about checking it.
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2009, 01:39:34 AM »
Everyone already knows that jews are born sneaky and evil, I once heard a story of a jew that was separated from it's parents and raised by wolves, When the jew was rescued by a british explorer and brought back to the british isles the entire country fell apart. TRUE STORY
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2009, 11:36:34 AM »
Did Jacob Schiff get his money back?
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2009, 05:14:17 PM »
Quote from: NightFlight on September 30, 2009, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: Alex  Libman on September 30, 2009, 06:29:15 AM
Quote from: Alex Libman 14 on June 08, 2009, 01:20:12 AM
Quote from: Lance on May 09, 2009, 03:04:34 AM
Quote from: Ghost of Alex Libman on May 05, 2009, 05:00:08 PM
Please debunk one by one.


I feel so... undebunked...   :(

bump?   :?

Did Jacob Schiff get his money back?


He [WP] made a good deal of money on some investments, while others were ideologically-driven purchases on which he intended to lose money in exchange for something else.
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2009, 05:51:53 AM »
Somehow I never came across this until now -- Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein --  :x :x :x


I'm so pissed about this I can't sleep!


Man, the correlation just keeps getting more and more disgusting.  Sure, there are a handful of "good Jews", but most of them (ex. Rand, Rothbard, David Friedman, etc) were really atheists...  The list of famous Jews who were socialists dwarfs it by several orders of magnitude!

That isn't to say that there's some sort of genetic or supernatural causation, but rather natural selection.  The same phenomenon that worked in the Jewish population's favor from 70 AD until around the 18th or 19th century has then backfired, and the people who remain Jews are not the smartest of their population but the most collectivist, emotionally manipulative, and intellectually dishonest - the hallmark of what makes one a socialist!
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Re: Jews and Communism
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2009, 06:23:54 AM »
Quote from: Alex  Libman on October 26, 2009, 05:51:53 AM
Somehow I never came across this until now -- Why Socialism? by Albert Einstein --  :x :x :x


I'm so pissed about this I can't sleep!


Man, the correlation just keeps getting more and more disgusting.  Sure, there are a handful of "good Jews", but most of them (ex. Rand, Rothbard, David Friedman, etc) were really atheists...  The list of famous Jews who were socialists dwarfs it by several orders of magnitude!

That isn't to say that there's some sort of genetic or supernatural causation, but rather natural selection.  The same phenomenon that worked in the Jewish population's favor from 70 AD until around the 18th or 19th century has then backfired, and the people who remain Jews are not the smartest of their population but the most collectivist, emotionally manipulative, and intellectually dishonest - the hallmark of what makes one a socialist!


http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Einstein.htm


read it...

it's doubtful that it could ever be decisively and conclusively linked, word for word, to Einstein

and even if it could be, there still exist the basic flaws inherent in such screeds

those flaws, and the screeds of those who screech them...fail, Fail, FAIL...

no need to copy/cut/paste/masterbate/etc over any of it

reading Starving The Monkeys will suffice

http://www.starvingthemonkeys.com/

http://voluntaryist.com

enjoy!

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