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Title: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 14 on May 24, 2009, 12:27:37 AM
As I was saying on another thread:

[...]  Japan is dead - economically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRIC#BRIC_in_2050), demographically (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_Japan), etc.  Deal with it.  Hong Kong and Singapore FTW!  Even Taiwan is close to surpassing it, and it has this cool "rebel island" vibe!  I know it was cool 11 years ago, but [...]

And that was before I came across this, from AP via MSNBC.com / Digg -- Japanese GDP falls at biggest rate since 1955 (http://digg.com/d1reAU) --

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Annual drop of 15.2 in first quarter as exports plunged, companies pull back

Japan's economy contracted at the fastest pace since 1955 as exports plunged and companies slashed production.

Japan's real gross domestic product, or the total value of the nation's goods and services, shrank at an annual pace of 15.2 percent in the January-March period, the government said Wednesday.

The result represents the steepest decline since Japan began compiling GDP statistics more than five decades ago. It also marks the fourth straight quarter of decline after the GDP fell 12.1 percent in the October-December period.

On a quarterly basis, GDP fell 4.0 percent from the previous three-month period, according to the Cabinet Office's preliminary data.

Japan's first quarter results were markedly worse than other major economies, outpacing the euro zone's 2.5 percent quarterly decline and a 1.6 percent contraction in the U.S.

The world's second-biggest economy relied heavily on the rest of the world to buy its cars and gadgets to drive economic growth. Like the rest of Asia, it has been pummeled by the unprecedented collapse in global demand triggered last year by the U.S. financial crisis.

Ouch! 

(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-anime-059.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: hellbilly on May 24, 2009, 12:45:22 AM
Perhaps they should have kept those borders closed, instead of pawning off countless shiny trinkets for the Gaijin to buy.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 14 on May 24, 2009, 01:37:28 AM
Yeah, countries that have kept their borders closed, like Burma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma), are doing relatively well...  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-think005.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs019.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: AbstractVagabond on May 24, 2009, 08:28:35 PM
Perhaps they should have kept those borders closed, instead of pawning off countless shiny trinkets for the Gaijin to buy.

Yeah. Them damn Americans and their invasion with their hot dogs and apple pies and failed monetary policy ideas...

How do you say "Dey tuk er jerbs!" in Japanese, anyways?
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 14 on May 24, 2009, 08:56:28 PM
デイツクエルジェルブス!
(http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-anime-020.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)

:lol:
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: shezmu on May 24, 2009, 10:15:12 PM
Urgh. Anti-capitalism propaganda to spread through japan in three, two.....
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: hellbilly on May 24, 2009, 10:27:51 PM
.. waz i seriz?
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 14 on May 24, 2009, 10:28:32 PM
It only takes a spark, then...

(http://oohara.mt.tama.hosei.ac.jp/mc/pic/gen0287.jpg)

Comrade Kitty!
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on August 31, 2009, 02:52:26 AM
....  aaaaaaaaand they elected Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_of_Japan) by a large margin in yesterday's election (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_general_election,_2009).  :lol:

Don't be confused by DPJ's promises to fight bureaucracy and corruption, they are clearly a socialist-leaning party that promises to "reduce the gap between rich and poor".  They plan to raise minimum wage, nationalize some pieces of Japan's privately owned transportation and edulcation infrastructure, and raise farming subsidies.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: davann on August 31, 2009, 07:52:33 PM
It was really just a matter of time when the entire culture is based on subservience. They should be okay once they all stop that fucking bowing and start paying a little attention to their immediate surroundings so they can stop bumping into me.

Really, at this point of my life I have been physically bumped into by half the entire Japanese population. Little fuckers need to start watching where they are going or in the next 40 years I'll be bumped into by the other half and their economy will never recover. I'll make sure of it.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on August 31, 2009, 08:02:31 PM
Actually bowing is one of the things I like about their culture - way better than shaking hands.  No need to worry about sweaty palms, spreading germs, encroaching into each-other's personal space, and so on.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 03, 2009, 03:04:42 AM
On Reuters via Digg -- Japan's new first lady says rode UFO to Venus (http://digg.com/d312tgm) --

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Japan's next prime minister might be nicknamed "the alien," but it's his wife who claims to have had a close encounter with another world.

"While my body was asleep, I think my soul rode on a triangular-shaped UFO and went to Venus," Miyuki Hatoyama, the wife of premier-in-waiting Yukio Hatoyama, wrote in a book published last year.

"It was a very beautiful place and it was really green."

Yukio Hatoyama is due to be voted in as premier on September 16 following his party's crushing election victory over the long-ruling Liberal Democratic Party on Sunday.

Miyuki, 66, described the extraterrestrial experience, which she said took place some 20 years ago, in a book entitled "Very Strange Things I've Encountered."

When she awoke, Japan's next first lady wrote, she told her now ex-husband that she had just been to Venus. He advised her that it was probably just a dream.

"My current husband has a different way of thinking," she wrote. "He would surely say 'Oh, that's great'."

Yukio Hatoyama, 62, the rich grandson of a former prime minister, was once nicknamed "the alien" for his prominent eyes.

Miyuki, also known for her culinary skills, spent six years acting in the Takarazuka Revue, an all-female musical theater group. She met the U.S.-educated Yukio while living in America.

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-alien011.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)


Suddenly I realize the value on Ann Coulter.  :lol:

Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Russell Griswold on September 03, 2009, 08:56:31 AM
Actually bowing is one of the things I like about their culture - way better than shaking hands.  No need to worry about sweaty palms, spreading germs, encroaching into each-other's personal space, and so on.
Bowing really does make sense.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: MacFall on September 03, 2009, 09:53:06 AM
Actually bowing is one of the things I like about their culture - way better than shaking hands.  No need to worry about sweaty palms, spreading germs, encroaching into each-other's personal space, and so on.
Bowing really does make sense.
It's a sign of subservience. If anyone bowed to me I'd want to yell "YOU ARE NOT A SLAVE" and walk away. If you feel like you need to acknowledge someone's presence and don't want to shake hands, a slight nod and a smile will do.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 03, 2009, 01:29:11 PM
Well, one person kneeling before an other might seem subservient, but in modern times they all tend to bow to each-other simultaneously.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: BobRobertson on September 03, 2009, 05:49:29 PM
While I was in Japan around 2002, there was a book (in Japanese, unfortunately) which had a hacker free-market revolution, in which they take over the island of Hokkaido and, by dumping all the Japanese regulation and bureaucracy and basically going full-bore anarcho-capitalist, turn it into an economic powerhouse and live happily ever after.

I was so sad it was only in Japanese and I couldn't read the book itself.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 03, 2009, 11:09:42 PM
Really?  People in Japan are at least minimally aware of libertarian ideas?  I'd like to see the source on that...

For example, compare the size and quality of multilingual Wikipedia entries on Ayn Rand (EN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand)/JA (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89)/ZH (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%89%BE%E8%8C%B5%C2%B7%E5%85%B0%E5%BE%B7)), Anarcho-Capitalism (EN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism)/JA (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%84%A1%E6%94%BF%E5%BA%9C%E8%B3%87%E6%9C%AC%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9)/ZH (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%84%A1%E6%94%BF%E5%BA%9C%E8%B3%87%E6%9C%AC%E4%B8%BB%E7%BE%A9)), or the Austrian School of economics (EN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_School)/JA (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/オーストリア学派)/ZH (http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/奧地利經濟學派)), and other similar articles.  There are many reasons why the Japanese version should be better than the Chinese version: Wikipedia is blocked in mainland China, Japanese people should have better access to political books, the Japanese Wikipedia is generally 2.3 times (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias) bigger, Japanese kana characters are less compact so the text could appear longer, etc.  And yet the Chinese version blows the Japanese version away, not just in the length of those articles, but also in descriptiveness and links to similar articles!
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Kevin Freeheart on September 04, 2009, 08:51:57 PM
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People in Japan are at least minimally aware of libertarian ideas?  I'd like to see the source on that...

Battle Royale.

Moral of the story? Trust the government, especially to educate your kids, everyone dies.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 05, 2009, 05:12:15 AM
Battle Royale.

Thanks, downloading now (http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Batoru-Rowaiaru-Battle-Royale-2000-DvDrip-JAP-E/4032cd3a29e86360de6eb2ea239f3e5fd5eeb578a4f0) [WP] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_%28film%29).
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Kevin Freeheart on September 05, 2009, 04:01:28 PM
Good call on btjunkie, BTW. Always one of my absolute favorites.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on September 05, 2009, 04:18:31 PM
Battle Royale.

Thanks, downloading now (http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Batoru-Rowaiaru-Battle-Royale-2000-DvDrip-JAP-E/4032cd3a29e86360de6eb2ea239f3e5fd5eeb578a4f0) [WP] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_%28film%29).

That movie is ridiculous!  I love it!  There's a sequel too.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 06, 2009, 01:12:47 PM
From Slashdot -- Google Japan To Help Victims of Street View Abuse (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/09/06/0152201/Google-Japan-To-Help-Victims-of-Street-View-Abuse) --

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After repeated concerns from Japanese citizens over "privacy rights" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy#Philosophy_of_privacy) violations involving Street View (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View#Japan) and a probe by Japan's Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Internal_Affairs_and_Communications), Google Japan (http://www.google.co.jp/) has announced that it will help victims of Street View photo abuse take action against offending sites (http://www.examiner.com/x-16352-Japan-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m9d4-Google-Japan-fights-concerns-about-Street-View).  Google Japan said it would send requests to the sites for removal of maliciously used Street View images. It will also potentially block the site from Google's search engine and consider legal action for those sites which ignore or refuse the request. Action to this extent against secondary-use abusers is reportedly a first in relationship to Google's Street View (http://www.google.co.jp/help/maps/streetview/) worldwide.

Idiots!  You can have government-enforced "privacy rights" or you can have liberty, not both.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 08, 2009, 09:25:59 PM
Peter Schiff vlog mentions Japan's recent shift toward populism:

[youtube=425,350]f1cJWccEifE[/youtube]
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 28, 2009, 05:35:29 PM
[youtube=425,350]zgHqR-wCryM[/youtube]

[youtube=425,350]KgizIjUDNuU[/youtube]

 :?
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: AbstractVagabond on September 28, 2009, 10:24:52 PM
[youtube=425,350]zgHqR-wCryM[/youtube]

 :?

Been so long since I watched AMV Hell 3.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Libertarianssuck on September 28, 2009, 11:27:59 PM
japanese comunists?  *sigh*  I thought they were smarter then that...
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 29, 2009, 06:57:09 AM
Been so long since I watched AMV Hell 3.

Ah, what the hell:

[youtube=425,350]3aTgINExt2w[/youtube]


japanese comunists?  *sigh*  I thought they were smarter then that...

Japanese people are not very smart, they just do what they're told.  The electronics industry, the car industry, video games, anime - all based on government planning.  Manga style was invented in a government R&D facility that puts out teaching manuals for school art classes.  Etc.

Declining population + xenophobic culture + highest corporate tax rate in the developed world + zero economic growth + a growing communist movement == kaput.

Goldman Sachs predicts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRIC#BRIC_in_future) by 2050 South Korea's per-capita GDP will be almost 50% higher than Japan's, and places like Taiwan, Hong Kong, and especially Singapore will probably be at least twice that.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Libertarianssuck on September 29, 2009, 12:29:56 PM
Second time I've heard the word xenophobia glad it was on here so I could look it up before forgetting to. As for everything else you've said I had no idea. I actually never really took a close look at the Japanese government now that I think about it. I'm an anime/manga fan and was immersed in the cultural aspect when I was studying there. It seemed like everyone put a lot of time and effort in studies so I guess I took the stereotype at face value. Although classes I attended weren't too difficult I wondered if they made it easier for me or if that was really the level they were studying at.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on October 13, 2009, 11:35:26 AM
From BBC -- Organ donation in Shinto (http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/shinto/shintoethics/organs.shtml) --

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The Shinto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinto) faith is very much bound up with the idea of purity, and the wholeness of the physical body.

Organ transplantation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_transplant) is comparatively rare in Japan because the body after death is impure according to Shinto tradition.

Shinto traditions also state that interfering with a corpse brings bad luck.

Families are concerned that they might injure the relationship between the dead person and the bereaved (known as the itai) by interfering with the corpse.

This means that many followers of Shinto oppose the taking of organs from those who have just died, and also would refuse an organ transplanted from someone who has died.

That's stupid.  Don't expect them to stay on top of the national life expectancy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy) charts for long...
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on October 31, 2009, 06:02:18 AM
From AP via Google -- Japan tech giants slump as SKorean rivals rebound (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5irHUt3Ddoi2aGR-3hx_GeGehcEiQD9BLEA480) --

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Asia's technology giants are showing mixed signs of recovery, with Japan's electronics makers set to languish in the red this year while South Korean companies rebound sharply from a global industry slump.

Their diverging fortunes show the strides South Korea has made against Japan in recent years as they compete fiercely for global market share in consumer electronics like flat-panel TVs, cameras and mobile phones. That South Korea's currency has become relatively weaker than the yen of late has only provided an extra edge by making its exports more competitive.

On Friday, Sony Corp. became the latest Japanese technology heavyweight to report red ink last quarter, racking up 26.3 billion yen ($289 million) in losses as plunging sales of its core electronics products eclipsed healthy demand for its PlayStation 3 game consoles and Michael Jackson hits.

While smaller than expected, the loss underlined Sony's hardships as it cuts staff and costs to weather the global slowdown and sliding prices of gadgets. The company, based in Tokyo, is now forecasting a 95 billion yen ($1 billion) loss compared with the initial projection for a 120 billion yen loss.

The new forecast is marginally better than the 98.9 billion yen loss it suffered the previous fiscal year.

In contrast, South Korea's Samsung Electronics Co. said quarterly profits tripled to a record.

The country's biggest corporation and a world leader in consumer electronics earned 3.72 trillion won ($3.14 billion) in the three months ended September, compared to 1.22 trillion won a year earlier.

Samsung's result was not an exception for South Korean electronics companies. LG Display Co., which competes with Samsung in LCDs, announced record quarterly sales and a 90 percent surge in net profit. LG Electronics Inc., another rival, said it recorded all-time high quarterly sales for flat screen TVs and mobile phones.

Besides Sony, the performance of other Japanese electronics makers paled next to Samsung's.

While faring somewhat better than Sony, Panasonic Corp. barely managed to creep back into the black with quarterly net income of 6.1 billion yen ($67 million), its first profit in a year. That was down 90 percent from the previous year, despite recovering demand for refrigerators and washing machines.

Still, it too projected a loss for the year, though narrower than initially forecast at 140 billion yen ($1.5 billion) compared to 195 billion yen.

Japanese rival Toshiba Corp. stuck to its forecast for a 50 billion yen ($549 million) loss for the fiscal year. It eked out a small quarterly profit of 100 million yen ($1.1 million) on cost-cutting and higher sales of memory chips. That marked a reversal from a 26.9 billion yen loss the same period a year earlier.

One main difference between Sony and Samsung results stems from a more favorable exchange rate against the dollar for South Korea's currency, the won.

The other is that Samsung has its own in-house flat-panel TV production, while Sony gets its panels through a joint venture with Samsung, so its costs are greater and ability to make innovations in liquid crystal displays considerably slimmer.

Sony Chief Financial Officer Nobuyuki Oneda said cost cuts were on track, but a quick turnaround in its TV operations would be tough.

"It would be difficult for us to achieve Samsung's profitability in TVs just by competing in hardware," he said at a briefing, citing the South Korean rival's attractive products as well as the weaker currency.

Sony needs to roll out more futuristic models such as the 3-D TVs planned for next year to one-up Samsung, Oneda said.

Sony fell behind Samsung in liquid crystal displays, partly because it had grown too complacent about its success in old-style cathode ray tube TV sets.

The strong yen has hurt because it makes Japan's products more expensive in foreign markets and lowers profits made overseas. The dollar had traded at above 100 yen last year but has hovered at 90 yen levels lately.

Sony's quarterly sales plunged nearly 20 percent to 1.66 trillion yen ($18.2 billion) from 2.07 trillion yen the same period the previous year, dragged down by sluggish consumer spending and the rising yen.

Sony's movie division lacked major theatrical releases, except for "District 9" and "Julie & Julia" during the latest quarter, and sank into an operating loss, as sales slid 30 percent, according to Sony.

Still, a recent price cut was a boon for the PlayStation 3 machine, and Sony sold 3.2 million PlayStation 3 machines around the world during the latest quarter, compared to 2.4 million the same period the previous year. Sony hopes to sell 13 million PlayStation 3 consoles for the fiscal year through March 2010.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on December 18, 2009, 03:01:50 PM
From Slashdot (http://slashdot.org/) -- iPhone Has 46% of Japanese Smartphone Market (http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/12/18/1626237/iPhone-Has-46-of-Japanese-Smartphone-Market) --

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Despite claims (http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/02/27/144256/Why-Japan-Hates-the-iPhone) earlier in the year that the iPhone was hated by Japanese consumers (later disproved (http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/03/01/1358233/Japanese-Hate-For-the-iPhone-All-a-Big-Mistake)), the iPhone has been doing well in the land of the rising sun (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/12/18/apples_iphone_commands_46_of_japanese_smartphone_market.html) and the evidence is in. Apple has taken 46% of the Japanese smartphone market, cutting in half the once 27% market share of the previous lead, Advance Sharp W-Zero3 (http://www.sharp.co.jp/ws/011sh/) (Japanese site). The article includes a large chart of the market share of Japanese smartphones over the last 3 years.

How you like them apples, Ibuka-san?  :lol:
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on December 23, 2009, 05:48:45 PM
This article may apply here...

http://www.cnngo.com/tokyo/play/decade-anime-682165

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2005: Just as foreign audiences are warming up to the idea that animated fare isn't just for kids, Japan's anime industry throws them a curve ball. The success of the novel and television series "Densha Otoko" -- an alleged "true story" about an otaku who gets up the nerve to ask out a "normal" woman he encounters on the train during his daily commute -- legitimizes and empowers the local otaku community. This in turn leads to more and more animated series aimed squarely at their demographic.

Because said demographic consists almost entirely of eternally single, socially awkward men, their tastes tend towards wish-fulfillment fantasy plots starring beautiful young lolitas -- who are willing to hang out with eternally single, socially awkward men. This fetishization of girlish naiveté and innocence is known as "moé," and it will dictate the industry's path for the remainder of the decade. Critics, however, believe that the development will potentially hamper Japan's ability to export anime, as the moé concept comes across as utterly creepy to most foreign audiences.

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2009: The types of anime shows popular among Japanese and foreign fans continues to diverge. The most buzz-worthy domestic fare are super-niche moé and lolicon shows brimming with inside jokes and anime stereotypes that few other than dyed-in-the-wool otaku can decipher. In Japan, a poll conducted by the otaku matchmaking service Otakuma reveals that four out of five of the top shows watched by female anime fans are about giant robots, while four out of five of the top shows watched by male anime fans are about little girls.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on January 06, 2010, 12:37:21 AM
From Slashdot (http://slashdot.org/~AlexLibman/) -- Living In Tokyo's Capsule Hotels (http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/01/05/176252/Living-In-Tokyos-Capsule-Hotels) --

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Capsule Hotel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsule_hotel) Shinjuku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinjuku,_Tokyo) 510 once offered a night's refuge to salarymen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaryman) who had missed the last train home.  Now with Japan enduring its worst recession since World War II, it is becoming an affordable option for people with nowhere else to go (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/02/business/global/02capsule.html).  The Hotel 510’s capsules are only 6 1/2 feet long by 5 feet wide.  Guests must keep possessions, like shirts and shaving cream, in lockers outside of the capsules.  Atsushi Nakanishi, jobless since Christmas says,  "It’s just a place to crawl into and sleep.  You get used to it."


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/CapsuleHotel.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsule_hotel)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/CapsuleHotelCapsule.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsule_hotel)


I'm a big fan of small living quarters: one room + bathroom is all I really need, which means I can do just fine in a log cabin (as long as there's electricity and Internet), a trailer / RV, or wherever else my tax resistance adventure may take me.  When I just started Gulching I've spent several months living in motels like Studio 6 and then a tax-free flea-bag motel where I had an arrangement with the owner, but that's no way for a civilized human being to live.  Those Japanese man-cells are the worst - no privacy whatsoever, and they're probably taxed and regulated to death as well!
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: tranced on January 07, 2010, 02:18:02 AM
Kinda reminds me of the kennels at the veterinarian.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on January 07, 2010, 10:56:59 AM
I get terror chills running up and down my spine thinking of staying in such a claustrophobia inducing casket.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: AL the Inconspicuous on March 08, 2010, 06:19:28 PM
This thread is for pissing down on Japan, but the things you won't find me criticizing are the apolitical aspects of their culture (though my definition of what's political may be way overinflated), most notably the whale and dolphin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cove_(film)) hunts.  I stand in support of the fishermen and other seaside property owners in Japan and their Right to use their natural resources however they see fit!

I must also give big kudos to Japan for finally beginning to formally acknowledge (http://digg.com/d31IThN) the tyranny that they imposed on the Korean people throughout the centuries, and particularly leading up to and during WW2.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: cavalier973 on March 09, 2010, 06:21:53 PM
This article is apropos, I think:
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~trefler/eco328/supplemental/porter.pdf

It's a fascinating description how Japan's economy developed.  The government of Japan tried to boost certain industries in order to get Japan into "the modern world"; it failed.  However, the industries that the government basically ignored (electronics, video games) became the basis for Japanese economic growth.

Bringing it up to the 1990's, Japan hit a recession, and apparently elected its version of the Obama administration to "fix" the economy.  Now we have this thread.


I am not a big fan of Japanese culture, but I do like the country--seeing them as a strong ally of America in the modern world (this was my view in the 1990's, anyway; I'm guessing that the "war on terror", among other things, distanced relations between our nations).  I could not understand the Japan bashing in the 80's and 90's, and by the end of the 1990's, I found it humorous that you never heard about "the Japanese taking over" anymore.  The article, though published a decade ago, gives some good reasons why.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: BobRobertson on March 09, 2010, 07:35:55 PM
While the Japanese government tries very hard to be "business friendly", the country is organized very socialistically on the inside.

Mises has many articles on the Japanese decades old effort to Keynesian "stimulate" themselves, a continuing and endless failure.

The problem I had when I was living there was watching as they tried everything to inflate their currency and maintain "liquidity", and yet the dollar matched the yen continually.

...which meant that the US was doing exactly the same thing, just quietly.

Anyway, just search Mises.org for "Japan" and get all the abuse you might want.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 11, 2010, 09:10:22 PM
http://kotaku.com/5484581/japan-its-not-funny-anymore

This article may apply here too.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: cavalier973 on March 12, 2010, 12:02:01 AM
http://kotaku.com/5484581/japan-its-not-funny-anymore

This article may apply here too.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
"I once pointed out, to a police officer, that someone was smoking in the no-smoking zone, and asked if he would fine him, and the cop simply asked me for my ID, passport, and visa papers. He looked them over, gave them back, and turned away."

"A couple years later, another person learned I didn't smoke, and acted surprised. 'I figured you must smoke because, you know; you play video games.' "
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman on August 16, 2010, 04:59:49 PM
Japanese uncollness news roundup:






Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 16, 2010, 06:01:05 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/28/japan.execution/index.html?iref=24hours

I see no problem with this.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman on August 16, 2010, 07:13:24 PM
Killing an attacker in self-defense is one thing, but once he is apprehended applying the death penalty is completely irrational.  It doesn't serve as an effective deterrent, while being forced to work for the rest of your miserable life to pay restitution (to victims' families / inheritors or appropriate charities) is more likely to make you think twice.  The death penalty brings out the public pity and emotion for all the wrong reasons, and some pieces of shit might actually want the attention, so it would only encourage them.  It actually costs more money to put someone to death, even without prison labor, because of all the extra legal costs 'n stuff.  Plus death is so final and irreversible, while no justice system is 100% infallible.

Plus hanging is a pretty painful way to kill someone, especially a Jap - they tend to be lighter and have stronger necks for some reason, so death takes longer.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 16, 2010, 07:35:14 PM
Get rid of the extra legal costs. In today's day you can't just have it done on testimonials alone; you actually have to have shit like DNA evidence there, hopefully lots of it.

But this is Japan we're talking about, a country where a guy who tortured, killed, and ate a foreign woman only served something like 7-10 years in prison. And now goes on the celeb reality shows in Japan.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: mrapplecastle on August 16, 2010, 07:36:26 PM
maybe its all the whale meat, or dolphin meat sold as whale
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman on August 16, 2010, 08:29:23 PM
Get rid of the extra legal costs. In today's day you can't just have it done on testimonials alone; you actually have to have shit like DNA evidence there, hopefully lots of it.

Still fallible.  What if 30 years from now it comes out that a powerful yakuza boss bribed half the police department to frame somebody, DNA evidence and all?  Even if the guy confesses, he could be sacrificing himself because he believes that's the only way his family would be taken care of and not killed by the yakuza, in that culture especially.  Improbable, but shit like that does happen, so a free and rational society shouldn't leave anything to chance.


But this is Japan we're talking about, a country where a guy who tortured, killed, and ate a foreign woman only served something like 7-10 years in prison. And now goes on the celeb reality shows in Japan.

Maybe 7-10 years in prison for murder is enough for some people.  Justice is about restitution, rehabilitation, and earning back your reputation, not pointless punishment.  It's certainly easier to earn more money, and that pay a higher "restitution tax", if you're not locked away in a small room for the rest of your life!  And modern technology with video cameras and GPS can make it a lot easier to track people out on parole.


maybe its all the whale meat, or dolphin meat sold as whale

One of the few things about Japan I'm not going to criticize is the whale / dolphin meat.  Or vending machines.  Or lolicon.  All those cultural traits are subjective.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: mrapplecastle on August 16, 2010, 08:36:23 PM
the motherfuckers should start farming whales(which I know is ridiculous), at least that way, they wont slaughter them into extinction
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman on August 16, 2010, 08:37:29 PM
Why is that ridiculous?  Seems like a damn good idea to me!
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: mrapplecastle on August 16, 2010, 08:44:03 PM
all the news I can find out about a whale farm is 8 years old, looks like it didint work

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1759757.stm


Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 16, 2010, 09:00:01 PM
A whale farm would make sense.

Instead, they slaughter too many whales to be sustainable and violate the international treaties the government has signed.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: mrapplecastle on August 16, 2010, 09:20:34 PM
yes it would make sense, and you might think that since people demand it, the market would provide...
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman on August 17, 2010, 04:40:10 AM
It would work if governments would stop getting in the way and keeping a rational justice system from emerging, one that would allow sea territory homesteading / ownership and being able to shoot the eco-nazis for attacking you.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: YixilTesiphon on August 17, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
Don't Japanese people hate whale meat, and it's just caught because of government subsidies?
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: Alex Libman on August 17, 2010, 12:50:25 PM
Huh?  Japs hate whale meat?!  What have you been smoking?

If they do, that would certainly make them unique.  Most people who try whale meat love it!
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 17, 2010, 01:56:42 PM
Huh?  Japs hate whale meat?!  What have you been smoking?

If they do, that would certainly make them unique.  Most people who try whale meat love it!


Pretty much this, Japan and Norway are the top two consumers of whale meat in the world.
Title: Re: Japan is dead.
Post by: anarchir on August 17, 2010, 02:17:45 PM
all the news I can find out about a whale farm is 8 years old, looks like it didint work

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1759757.stm




Greenpeace said it was "preposterous." It doesnt look like anyone else weighed in.