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Title: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on August 24, 2008, 11:22:33 AM
Not that I need it, but:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=121399

  8)


EDIT:  renamed topic from "The Definitive 'Cover My Butt In Another Forum' Thread!"
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: AntonLee on August 24, 2008, 01:54:01 PM
so much for critical thinking. .. how many times in one thread can they put "the roads"

tomorrow they're going to be undertaking the deep thought of why jelly got put with peanut butter in the first place.

it's pretty bad Alex when you're the smartest one in the room hehe
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Taors on August 24, 2008, 02:08:44 PM
*Yawn*
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Alex Libman on August 24, 2008, 03:40:57 PM
it's pretty bad Alex when you're the smartest one in the room hehe

Indeed.  Given the fragmented and multi-threaded nature of my thought processes, most of the time I'm not even the smartest person in the room when I'm alone, especially when even mildly sober.  :shock:

But this has nothing to do with mere smarts, it's just a matter of exposing people to something they've never been exposed to and dealing with their initial shock reactions.  When you get past that, you do have to make good arguments: child abuse, intellectual property rights, rights of adult retards in mental institutions, etc, or, as in my case, the perceived threat of psychopath trillionaires manufacturing bio/nano-tech weapons.  (Don't reply with debate points here, see the JREF thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=121399) for specifics, and if you would: please sign up and join the discussion!)

And since some of us Liberty Theorists will be better with some topics than others, cooperation when debating on other forums could be useful.  I'm sure any one of us can tackle any issue, but when it comes to putting the bestest arguments forward - some specialization does help.

So that's the point of this thread: provide links to where Government Apologists gang up on you.  Needless to say, no one is expected to help anyone else unless joining that discussion benefits yourself and your own desire to debate.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: ciscokid1024 on August 25, 2008, 04:44:36 PM
I added a post, but I don't know if it will help.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: trollfreezone on August 25, 2008, 10:19:16 PM
I'm trying to figure out why anyone would ever deliberately strike up a debate with these folks.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on August 25, 2008, 10:23:49 PM
Boredom
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Alex Libman on August 25, 2008, 11:31:47 PM
I'm trying to figure out why anyone would ever deliberately strike up a debate with these folks.

I think it brought out some good arguments, don't you?
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: trollfreezone on August 26, 2008, 01:13:22 AM
no
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Alex Libman on August 26, 2008, 02:31:23 AM
So, how DO we keep some nutty trillionaire from building bio-weapons?
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 26, 2008, 05:56:36 AM
I support supervillainy, so I have no problem with a psychopathic trillionaire building bio-weapons.

Let's hope he moves on to building functional mecha.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Alex Libman on August 26, 2008, 08:50:47 AM
OK, that's the Retarded Anarcho-Psychopath (RAP) position...

Is anyone here interested in helping define and defend the Anarcho-Capitalist one?
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: miamiballoonguy on August 26, 2008, 10:16:43 AM
OK, that's the Retarded Anarcho-Psychopath (RAP) position...

Is anyone here interested in helping define and defend the Anarcho-Capitalist one?


I just signed up to the board....  It's pretty scary what these people are talking about about...  The guy that keeps threatening to ignore u is an idiot.  This is why America is dead....  the final nail will be when alfred e neuman, I mean obama, wins...  All I get out of it is the following:  People can't be trusted, Government is necessary to help keep people out of poverty, etc....  what a bunch of douchebags...
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: trollfreezone on August 26, 2008, 12:36:33 PM
So, how DO we keep some nutty trillionaire from building bio-weapons?


It's a financial loser.  Even nutty trillionaires don't have enough money to waste murdering people, or plotting to do so.  Only governments have the free money stolen from taxpayers that's necessary to fund that crap.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Alex Libman on August 26, 2008, 01:38:11 PM
Yes, I've made that argument there, and I'm sitting on a more detailed explanation on how, even if only 5% fiercely boycott you, your ability to do business goes down mighty quick.  But even if all of the earth's major financial transactions are "open-source" and monitored by paranoid people like me to make sure nothing close to a government can ever arise again, won't some of the richest people still be able to stash away some gold (or something else of inherent value) a bit at a time, and then use it to finance some mad scientists in a secret lab somewhere, like an evil version of Galt's Gulch?  True, that would merely mean a reemergence of governments as we have them now, since you can't get much value from a slave unless you trick him into producing and paying taxes, but still...  What other safeguards can we think of?
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: trollfreezone on August 26, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
I really think the only way evil can be effectively promoted is by someone who steals, not by someone who earns or saves.  Besides, the personalities of people who build wealth are inherently different from those of people who burn, loot and kill.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Taors on August 26, 2008, 03:06:16 PM
I think we should just do it and figure out a solution to the consequences when they arise.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: ciscokid1024 on August 27, 2008, 12:03:02 PM
I asked the simple question wether it was better to use force and the overwhelming answer was YES!

So I see no point in posting there.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 27, 2008, 01:31:46 PM
I asked the simple question wether it was better to use force and the overwhelming answer was YES!

So I see no point in posting there.

If a multi-trillionaire is building a series of gigantic mechas to enslave you with, then it is right to use force.

Or if he's aiming a nuclear bomb at you from his space station in near-Earth orbit.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Alex Libman on August 27, 2008, 01:56:36 PM
Perhaps it was an experiment on my part to push Anarcho-Capitalist points of view and, in the process, pull mainstream people toward moderate minarchism without them ever agreeing with me in full.  Still too soon to tell if it succeeded or backfired or produced a neutral result.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Alex Libman on September 01, 2008, 04:13:43 AM
So the fascist fucks at the JREF forums finally suspended / banned me...  So it goes...  :x
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Alex Libman on September 03, 2008, 01:16:07 PM
Added poll...
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Dylboz on September 03, 2008, 02:36:30 PM
So, you can be skeptical of everything but the slavish obedience and religious fervor with which these folks adulate the jack-booted thugs who step on their necks while picking their pockets? They, apparently, enjoy the taste of shoe leather so much they are willing to give up 50% of their income for laces and polish, not to mention the truncheons. OH! Woe is me! The wealthy men who run evil corporations will control everything! We can't have that! Except we wont, and yet, right now, we already do. Fools.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on September 05, 2008, 12:12:14 AM
OK, so we've seen a lot of "Alex throws a hissy fit" threads, and some were better than others.

Here's one on the JREF forum (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=122692)...  Enjoy!  8)

Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nic
Post by: Manuel_OKelly on September 05, 2008, 01:29:05 AM
Yeah, you didn't explain how it wouldn't devolve into a plutocracy. Instead you supported their argument. You should have pointed out that we already have a plutocracy. How many Clinton's and Bush's do we have to have before people will realize this. Instead you might as well have told them that Hitler could rise up in a anarcho-capatalist society and so long as he's rich he can kill all the damn Jews he wants (technically true when you think about the information you've given them).

The only caveat that you mention is that rich people will be bound by the non-aggression principle, but by what? A religious man would say God, An honest man would say ostracism, an objectivist would say self-interest, but you failed to take into account what an Atheist would say. Atheists generally understand natural law so this is your common ground that you need to focus on until they might find the same logic that Ayn Rand found in her philosophy of objectivism.

It needs to be pointed out that a society in equilibrium where no force is used can remain so only if violence or fraud is not tolerated by any member. So in fact there is another premise that you must mention in your argument, that so long as no one tolerates the initiation of force by themselves or others, everyone wins.

"Anarchy in the sense of no government just ain't gonna happen -- not unless everyone becomes a hermit. A group of people will always want a system of making decisions. Even if they don't elect/designate a leader/decider. "

This poster obviously knows that people like to have rules. I would certainly not disagree. Ethically speaking, it is better to have rules that everyone agrees on. Anarchy would thus have groups that create their own rules, the members of which could be bound by contract. Be sure to mention this as well as the concept of voluntarism.

Finally the largest critique of anarchism is that it is unstable. However, I could just as easily say that any system is unstable. After all how many democracies, monarchies, and communes have fallen into anarchy over the course of human history? Thus I would propose that what we mean by stability we really mean personal security. Literally the absence of violence and fraud. However, I've already mentioned what will make an anarchist society stable, that is an absolute aversion to force, fraud, or coercion. I would posit that any society whatever you might call it would be very stable if this stability were achieved.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on September 05, 2008, 11:27:20 AM
Okay, I remembered that I have an old fart account there. I'll give you some /b/ackup, Alex.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on September 05, 2008, 03:34:56 PM
Huge thanks, I'm really enjoying your posts there.

Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on September 05, 2008, 06:08:08 PM
So, how DO we keep some nutty trillionaire from building bio-weapons?


It's a financial loser.  Even nutty trillionaires don't have enough money to waste murdering people, or plotting to do so.  Only governments have the free money stolen from taxpayers that's necessary to fund that crap.


Kinda like the Saudis who help fund OBL's network? 

At least Bin Laden hasn't done anything as of late, where as the State seems to perpetually operate regardless.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nic
Post by: alphaniner on September 05, 2008, 07:21:08 PM
I don't know how you can do it, man.  I skimmed one thread - 'Where did the 'Fractional Reserve Banking' meme begin?' - and I wouldn't even know where to begin discussion with them.  With a few exceptions, their worldview is so... alien, so contrary to anything even approaching liberty, that they might as well be speaking a different language.
Title: Re: The Definitive "Cover My Butt In Another Forum" Thread!
Post by: trollfreezone on September 05, 2008, 11:46:16 PM
So, how DO we keep some nutty trillionaire from building bio-weapons?


It's a financial loser.  Even nutty trillionaires don't have enough money to waste murdering people, or plotting to do so.  Only governments have the free money stolen from taxpayers that's necessary to fund that crap.


Kinda like the Saudis who help fund OBL's network? 

Not really.  Most of the work and scrounging of funds is being done by people who think they're fighting for independence from the Great Satan.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nic
Post by: AntonLee on September 06, 2008, 12:08:30 AM
it's bullshit that they banned you
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on September 06, 2008, 12:13:55 AM
Technically they only "suspended" me for a few days, but I've done nothing wrong, so there's no way I can continue there - they'll just "suspended" me again or ban me permanently.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on September 07, 2008, 09:44:50 AM
Here's a description of libertarianism you don't hear every day:

Quote
Well it looks like he came here to preach, and suffered the fate of every other pastor.  His religion made less sense to me than most, if that's possible. At least Christianity thinks that their miracles only happened a few times. His demands that miracles happen every single day.

:lol:
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on March 28, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
So I'm close to being banned there again, this time over the right of gay people to seek treatment if they so choose (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=138571).

Quote from: Me
If some "gay" people want to change their habits with the help of modern psychiatry - fine.

If some "gay" people DON'T want to change their habits - fine.

It's a personal decision. Why the fuss?


Quote from: Darat, the Socialist Mod
Because there is no indication the therapies actually work would be a good starting point.


Quote from: Me
This is a complicated issue with a lot of intangible psychological aspects to it. Human culture isn't objective, it isn't supposed to be. Ever hear of the Placebo effect? Some people would pay good money for that, knowing exactly what they're getting.

Shouldn't the free market decide what works and what doesn't, not Generalissimo el Darato?


Quote from: Another Socialist
Oh, man. That is a complex, not-easily-reducible statement that is, de facto and a priori, not necessarily nor inherently true. In order to accept that, you have to consider a whole host of behavior/reward responses in the brain within the limbic system, and the not-very-well-understood higher brain center (namely pre-frontal cortex) "control" centers mitigating our impulses. That's like saying "it's a personal decision to be addicted to cigarettes."

"Choice" and "free will", in many cases, is an illusion we like to believe we have.


Quote from: Darat, the Socialist Mod
[Quoting my last post]

No, the facts should.


Quote from: Me
Name one dictator who claimed not to adhere to facts?

Self-interested individuals should get to decide what's factual, referring to whatever authorities they explicitly trust, not the violent thugs looking to maintain and expand their power!


Quote from: Darat, the Socialist Mod
As Admin - Alex Libman take your off-topic obsession to another thread. Thanks


Quote from: Me
No, you will have to ban me.


I guess he's thinking it over right now.  :lol:


EDIT: no, they've had a spin-off witch trial thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=138709) but didn't suspend / ban me.  Anyways, whenever the mods get in my way I like to put a forum on ice for a while.  So many forums to troll, so little time...  ;)
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: NHArticleTen on March 28, 2009, 06:03:55 PM

because the freedom and liberty to voluntarily make choices...is off-topic...

what a bunch of looters...

how can you stand that shit...

{{vomit}}

Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 28, 2009, 06:49:07 PM

because the freedom and liberty to voluntarily make choices...is off-topic...

what a bunch of looters...

how can you stand that shit...

{{vomit}}



said the person who deletes responses in his "hijack-free" threads all the time
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: NHArticleTen on March 29, 2009, 11:27:47 AM

because the freedom and liberty to voluntarily make choices...is off-topic...

what a bunch of looters...

how can you stand that shit...

{{vomit}}



said the person who deletes responses in his "hijack-free" threads all the time

hey, you can pee in your water-bowl anytime you voluntarily choose...

you watch yours and I'll watch mine...

go figure...

enjoy!

Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 29, 2009, 11:29:28 AM

because the freedom and liberty to voluntarily make choices...is off-topic...

what a bunch of looters...

how can you stand that shit...

{{vomit}}



said the person who deletes responses in his "hijack-free" threads all the time

hey, you can pee in your water-bowl anytime you voluntarily choose...

you watch yours and I'll watch mine...

go figure...

enjoy!



that doesn't make any fucking sense
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on March 29, 2009, 11:41:00 AM
You know, a growing fraction of the world's problems comes from people with poor reading comprehension skills...  Take an English Literature class or something...  Read more...  Learn to understand poetic metaphores, read between the lines, and so on...  For fuck's sake, man, it's not like English is your 4th language!

(This applies both to Queen of the Harpies here and that The Atheist hypocrite on JREF, and others.)
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: NHArticleTen on March 29, 2009, 11:43:33 AM
You know, a growing fraction of the world's problems comes from people with poor reading comprehension skills...  Take an English Literature class or something...  Read more...  For fuck's sake, man!

(This applies both to Queen of the Harpies here and that The Atheist hypocrite on JREF, and others.)


this

Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on March 29, 2009, 12:04:36 PM
I guess they weren't done with me on JREF.  This morning I find that they've deleted (or moved to a locked "recycle bin" of sorts (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=138744)) my older post on a "Win for Science Education in Texas! (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=138550)" thread.  To preserve it for Googlebots and posterity, I quote that post below, following my first post on that thread that they did not (yet) remove:

Quote from: Me
The problem is the herd mentality of "public education": one truth for all (even if it's false). Without government control of schools, people would be free to pursue the individual education solutions that suit them best.

You should get to decide how to educate your children, not a violent entity that's primarily concerned with retaining an strengthening its grip on power. Without educational freedom, all other freedoms are meaningless!


Quote from: Me
Quote from: BazBear
Violent entity? That's a bit extreme...but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. AFAIK people are free to send their children to non-public schools, home school them etc. I just worry your version of educational freedom might frequently equate to a freedom from education.

Only in a handful of countries are people free to send their children to a school that isn't directly run by the government, but is nonetheless under strict government control, and in even fewer countries do parents retain the right to home-school their children, and with a growing number of strings attached.

And of course this is highly discouraged, and the violent entity calling itself government forces you to pay for its over-priced brainwashing facilities (aka "public schools") even if you don't use or agree with them. For me it's no better than forcing a vegan to pay for a pig slaughterhouse (which of course the government also does).

And "freedom from education" is a right too, if certain individuals so choose, especially if the government gets to define what education is and isn't. In a free society there are natural incentives for a proper education to earn income, invest one's capital wisely, and function in a society where personal reputation is paramount.

Quote from: OMGturt1es
What's the point of requiring an education if we are just going to attend those schools that teach whatever it is that happens to make us feel all warm and cuddly? Seriously?

It's interesting that socialists make everything about atheism and racial equality, those being the only issues they were even vaguely on the right side of. It's like a high that you got once long ago and want to recapture again and again!

The full spectrum of human experience extends far beyond that. Public school as the federal thugs want it is nothing but "warm and cuddly" falsehoods, except honoring a different irrational religious system. The old God (aka Government-ordained deity) is dead, long live the new God (aka Government-officiated democracy)!

The Bible is nothing but a Machiavellian deception of old, and you're merely replacing it with its more modern equivalents. Instead of teaching that civilization originates from God (father, son, whatever), you teach that civilization originates from Government. The science has been updated so as not to crumble under obvious contradictions, but everything else is the same!

(Not that this rant is of any value, but still...)
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 29, 2009, 12:47:46 PM
You know, a growing fraction of the world's problems comes from people with poor reading comprehension skills...  Take an English Literature class or something...  Read more...  Learn to understand poetic metaphores, read between the lines, and so on...  For fuck's sake, man, it's not like English is your 4th language!

(This applies both to Queen of the Harpies here and that The Atheist hypocrite on JREF, and others.)


you've somehow figured out what Rob's posts mean?
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on March 29, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
"Hey, you can pee in your water-bowl anytime you voluntarily choose" means that deleting posts in his "hijack-free" threads (including my attempt to spam them with a senseless Gilbert Gottfried style rant, except this one copy (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=23807.msg435234#msg435234) he forgot) is his prerogative.  He's a known commodity, he doesn't claim to be a decent human being or anything like that.  It's his party, he can cry if he wants to.

"You watch yours and I'll watch mine" means something similar but along the lines of his capricious behavior isn't some unheard-of abomination that transcends space and time, anyone can start a "hijack free" thread and act like an asshole too.

;)
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: NHArticleTen on March 29, 2009, 02:30:15 PM
"Hey, you can pee in your water-bowl anytime you voluntarily choose" means that deleting posts in his "hijack-free" threads (including my attempt to spam them with a senseless Gilbert Gottfried style rant, except this one copy (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=23807.msg435234#msg435234) he forgot) is his prerogative.  He's a known commodity, he doesn't claim to be a decent human being or anything like that.  It's his party, he can cry if he wants to.

"You watch yours and I'll watch mine" means something similar but along the lines of his capricious behavior isn't some unheard-of abomination that transcends space and time, anyone can start a "hijack free" thread and act like an asshole too.

;)


warm fuzzies

Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 29, 2009, 03:26:18 PM
"Hey, you can pee in your water-bowl anytime you voluntarily choose" means that deleting posts in his "hijack-free" threads (including my attempt to spam them with a senseless Gilbert Gottfried style rant, except this one copy (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=23807.msg435234#msg435234) he forgot) is his prerogative.  He's a known commodity, he doesn't claim to be a decent human being or anything like that.  It's his party, he can cry if he wants to.

"You watch yours and I'll watch mine" means something similar but along the lines of his capricious behavior isn't some unheard-of abomination that transcends space and time, anyone can start a "hijack free" thread and act like an asshole too.

;)


Well, then that means that the mods at the JRRF forum can mod however they like, because it's their prerogative to mod how they like there.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on March 29, 2009, 03:42:57 PM
Yes, and it's my prerogative to document their behavior, make a bulletproof case showing intellectually dishonest hypocrisy on their part, and smear the good name of James Randi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi) into dirt.  Which I'm not going to do obviously, but he should care about what's being done in his name.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on March 29, 2009, 03:45:57 PM
Yes, and it's my prerogative to document their behavior, make a bulletproof case showing intellectually dishonest hypocrisy on their part, and smear the good name of James Randi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi) into dirt.  Which I'm not going to do obviously, but he should care about what's being done in his name.


James Randi is actually Santa Claus and Jesus, who wants to make humans think that they don't exist.

Then Jesus will come down from Heaven shouting, "On Dancer, On Prancer, On Rudolf and Blitzen. On Sneezy, On Doofy, On Hitler and Nixon."
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nic
Post by: Manuel_OKelly on March 29, 2009, 08:37:58 PM
The mod is power tripping. You should have just made a new thread and continue the conversation. Now that you've openly defied him he'll think he has to ban you. You don't always have to seek confrontation. You seem to think your being repressed, I don't think you are.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on March 30, 2009, 11:49:14 AM
This is how modern Tyranny 2.0 operates: unorthodox opinions aren't suppressed outright, but are forcefully marginalized into an intellectual ghetto that no person who cares about his mainstream reputation will touch.  If you don't conform then you believe in lizard men from mars.  Activism within the "free speech zone" is no activism at all.

Plus the subtle nature of that thread made me very angry.  It reminds me of Soviet-style news reports, which imply something without saying it outright, not to the point where their subsequent backtracking is objectively effective, but to the point where they are able to delude themselves into thinking they weren't talking about government intervention at all...  :x

Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Ecolitan on March 30, 2009, 11:41:26 PM
This poll lacks a suitable non-answer.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman on April 01, 2009, 04:49:03 PM
You can always choose not to vote and/or post your opinion.


In other news, the witch-burning thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=138709) is still alive this morning.  Man, insults from those people are doing my ego a lot of good.  :lol:
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman 14 on May 17, 2009, 04:35:33 PM
I came back there, a little too soon.

I think some of my recent posts there (http://forums.randi.org/search.php?searchid=2018649) have been pretty good under the circumstances...  then - SNAP!

Now there's another hissy fit thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4722591).  (Registration required.)

Back into the penalty box it goes.  :x

And if you see anyone promoting JREF in real life, please give him a nice big kick in the balls for me, mkay?  :twisted:
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman 14 on July 10, 2009, 03:01:38 PM
I popped back in when I saw they had an Ed and Elaine Brown (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=147760) thread...  A perfect thread for suicide-by-mod I guess.

Wasn't as much fun as I thought it would be...

Maybe I'm just tired...
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman 14 on July 10, 2009, 08:39:41 PM
Yaay, the JREF commies have finally removed all doubt:

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Your account has either been suspended or banned.

You have been banned/suspended for the following reason:
On instructions from the JREF you have been banned.

Date the ban/suspension will be lifted: Never  [...]

They've also deleted what I wrote (or at least moved it where the sun doesn't shine - same thing really), which is unfortunate but it comes with the job.  I'm glad it was over defending Ed and Elaine Brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Elaine_Brown)'s right to defend themselves - the most appropriate thread.

I have carried my mission out to its logical conclusion.  I can now watch those plebs be reduced to ashes and not feel an inkling of guilt.  Some people just want to be slaves.

I feel liberated a bit, though I have a dozen other forums to liber-troll.
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Terror Australis on July 11, 2009, 07:03:47 AM
Good job alex.You are fighting a losing battle trying to convince the sheeple that the emperor has no clothes. :)
Title: Re: James Randi Research Foundation (JREF) Forum - Socialist Mods Don't Play Nice
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on September 30, 2009, 07:50:24 AM
James Randi & pals' blind faith in government mentioned ~36 minutes into Sep 29th show (http://media.libsyn.com/media/ftl/FTL2009-09-29.mp3)...   :lol:


(Yes, I'm still banned from that forum.  I don't do sock-puppets.)