Its the threatening that bothers me.
I agree - you threaten me and my family and I take action!
But, when its not face to face, it loses its moxy.
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I know all countries are established by kicking out the aborigines but, have you ever seen "
Jaffa, The Oranges Clockwork"?
I don't like violence - especially STATE violence. Its worse man.
Never saw Jaffa, The Oranges Clockwork, I'll admit.
Iran is beyond threats at this point. They have already been involved in, or implicated in actionable things. I'm talking the bombing of a Jewish cultural center in Buenos Aries, weapons, and training given to Hezbollah, and stuff like that. That isn't a threat. Its real, actual instances of violence performed.
You're only ok if Israel defends in the face of violence, and resigns itself to ignoring a buildup of arms? That's stupid. Why should they have to tie their hands behind their backs while enemies are preparing for another war? Hezbollah now has MORE weaponry than they did before the last war. All from Iran. Israel should have to wait until the missiles rain down on Tel Aviv before counterattacking even though Hezbollah has already made its intention of attacking Israel clear? Fuck that shit.
Its not like this was unprecedented either. In 1967, Israel anticipated an Arab attack, and decimated the air forces of the Arab nations to win the war. If they had not proactively responded to the Arab hostilities, there would be no Israel. Today, it isn't too different. Iran at least partly funds Hamas, they own Hezbollah, and they have a huge presence in Syria. They could wage a 3 front war with Israel, and use standard military, and asymmetrical forces at the same time. What if they also used a nuke? I'll admit I am not sure if they would but they signed the paperwork saying they wouldn't.
You don't think that the history of unprovoked attacks on Israel isn't already an indication of willingness on Irans part to strike again?
Whats this about kicking out the aborigines? Were Arabs, a nomadic people the owners of Israel?
I think its your white guilt showing. The Jews are the owners of the land. We had it before Islam existed, and all the archeological proofs attest to that. The fact that they built their mosque on top of our Temple, and covered the Cave of the Patriarchs with a building is further proof. We were there first. The Romans kicked us out, and we reclaimed our property in 1948. I can't begin to understand at what point there would be disagreement about this...any of this.
Don't you agree that Jews owned the land when the Romans kicked many of us out?
Don't you agree that property rights exist?
Don't you agree that we can't be the foreigners of our own land?