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Israeli settlers are terrorists?
« on: May 28, 2009, 11:15:09 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhar
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Yitzhar (Hebrew: יִצְהָר‎) is an Israeli settlement located in the Samarian mountains of the West Bank near Nablus/Shechem just off Route 60 north of the Tapuach Junction. The Hebrew term 'Yitzhar' is a biblical term, meaning high quality olive oil, and derives from one of the region's major industries. The village was originally established as a pioneer Nahal military outpost and demilitarized only a year later when turned over to residential purposes in 1984 with the assistance of the Amana settlement organization.

Over 130 families, including over 500 people, live in this Orthodox Jewish community which is within the municipal jurisdiction of the Shomron Regional Council. Yitzhar is located on the top of a steep mountain, and overlooks the farms and hamlets that dot the otherwise barren hills around the village. In addition, from the western side of the settlement, the entire coastal plain of Israel, from Ashkelon to Hadera, is fully visible on a clear day.

Education is a priority of the community and several institutions operate locally: nurseries, the boy's Zilberman Talmud Torah, the Dorshei Yichudcha Yeshiva high school, headed by Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, and the Od Yosef Chai "Higher Yeshiva" headed by Rabbi Yitzhak Ginzburg, that was previously located in Joseph's Tomb Nablus.

On Saturday, September 13, 2008, a Palestinian man entered the Shalhevet neighborhood, set a fire which destroyed one home and stabbed a nine-year-old boy who found him attempting to set fire to another home. Dozens of settlers responded by marching through the adjacent Arab village of Asira al-Qibliya where the attacker had fled; allegedly wounding two people and damaging property.

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1020914.html
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Yitzhar settlers' West Bank rampage caught on camera

By Haaretz Service
Tags: settlers, Palestinian

Channel 10 aired footage on Sunday that showed West Bank settlers rampaging through a Palestinian village on the previous day.

The footage, obtained from Israeli human rights organization B'Tselem, shows Israel Defense Forces soldiers consistently present at the scene of the rampage, during which settlers fired on Palestinian residents, destroyed their property and spray-painted Stars of David on homes.
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The settlers were responding Saturday to the stabbing of a 10-year-old Israeli boy by a Palestinian at the illegal outpost of Shalhevet Yam near Yitzhar.

Also Sunday, dozens of youths from the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar on Sunday established an outpost near the Palestinian village that settlers had rampaged in Saturday.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert declared earlier in the day that Israel's government will not allow settlers to carry out "pogroms against non-Jews."

Speaking at the weekly cabinet meeting one day after the rampage in the village of Assira al-Kabaliya, Olmert said "there will not be pogroms against non-Jews in the state of Israel."

The violence in Assira al-Kabaliya left at least eight Palestinians hurt. The boy, stabbed in the back and the hand, sustained minor wounds.

"The phenomenon of [settlers] taking the law into their own hands and lashing out with violence and brutality is unforgivable, and will be dealt with by the law enforcement authorities," Olmert said.

The prime minister went on to describe the previous day's events, saying "in northern Samaria there was a terror attack, and a young boy was hurt. This is serious and momentous and the defense forces will find the culprit and do what needs to be done, as they do every day. However, Yitzhar settlers went on a retaliatory rampage against Palestinian residents, using live fire."

Olmert went on to say that there was no reason to believe that the Palestinians targeted by the settlers had any connection to the stabbing attack earlier in the day.

"There are law enforcement authorities in the state of Israel," Olmert told the cabinet, "we have a military and security services and we won't allow this kind of violence or brutal attacks on civilians. Moreover, the violence is not used against those suspected of terrorism, it is used against Israel Defense Forces officers and soldiers. I urge the authorities to take measures to end this grave phenomenon."

In a meeting of Labor Party ministers earlier Sunday, Defense Minister Ehud Barak sais that "the defense establishment will act with decisiveness to enforce law and order in the West Bank, but we need the cooperation of the police and the legal system."

http://samsonblinded.org/news/jews-of-yitzhar-fire-rocket-at-palestinians-2370
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Jews of Yitzhar fire rocket at Palestinians

Orthodox yeshiva students from Yitzhar settlement constructed a simple Kassam-like rocket and test-fired it on the nearby Palestinian village whose villagers bug the Jewish settlers incessantly. The first rocket didn’t make it through and fell on the open ground nearby.
Shin-Bet security service investigates the affair with the zeal it doesn’t routinely show against Palestinian rocket-makers.
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/126569
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Homemade Rocket Fired from Jewish Hilltop at Arab Village
 
by Hillel Fendel

(IsraelNN.com) A yeshiva student in the north-central Samaria town of Yitzhar fired a homemade Kassam-like rocket at a hostile Arab village; no one was hurt.  The GSS is investigating.

After the violent events of Thursday morning, in which police and army forces destroyed a caravan and a storage container on hilltops in Yitzhar, using clubs to beat and disperse protestors, the people of Yitzhar found themselves facing another "incident" just a few hours later.

Police reported that a student in the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in Yitzhar fired a home-made Kassam-like rocket towards a nearby Arab village.  The rocket landed in an open area - some 50 meters away from a Jewish man engaged in prayer.

Rabbi Yitzik Shapira, Dean of the yeshiva, was questioned by General Security Service agents afterwards. He reportedly told them that the yeshiva has made it clear to the students that the priority is "net Torah study," and that he personally is against any form of anarchy in which citizens take the law into their own hands.

Notably, nine out of ten talkbacks to the NRG-Maariv article in which the story was first published expressed some measure of support for the rocket firing.  Many said that it was an understandable reaction in the face of government inaction.

Rabbi David Dudkevitch, the Rabbi of Yitzhar, told Arutz-7, "It is clear that many Israeli citizens feel that the government is not filling its most basic obligation of defending its populace. Instead of fighting terrorism, it fights against its citizens."

"Taking the State Into Our Hands"
Asked his opinion on "taking the law into one's own hands" in situations such as this, Rabbi Dudkevitch said, "The issue is not taking the law into our hands, but rather taking the entire State into our hands. We have to be thinking about how to create a real alternative to the leadership that we have now.  Some in the religious-Zionist camp feel that if we were just to have a Foreign Minister who would be religious, or maybe someone from the National Union, then everything would be perfect.  This is of course not true; the foundations are rotten, and we have to find the way to replace them."

Asked what would be the first step towards such a goal, the rabbi said, "First there must be a commitment to doing this.  We must stop thinking that just little patches are needed here and there; we must realize that there must be a total change. Also, we must not cooperate with a system that endangers its soldiers on behalf of false ethics [by preventing themselves from fully defending themselves], or that sends them on immoral missions such as destroying Jewish houses in the Land of Israel."

The Yeshiva
Yeshivat Od Yosef Chai, or the Joseph's Tomb Yeshiva, was founded over 25 years ago at the site of Joseph's Tomb in Shechem (Nablus), and remained there until 2000, when the Arabs overran and destroyed the site.  The yeshiva was later rebuilt in Yitzhar, five kilometers south of Shechem.

The yeshiva released a statement, saying it plans to sue the NRG-Maariv reporter for libel in implying that the yeshiva ideologically supports such actions: "It could be that the reporter wants to spread such ideas and heat up the atmosphere, as the talkbacks show, but if these are his opinions, he should stand behind them himself and not throw mud on others."

A yeshiva official told Arutz-7 that it is making strong efforts to change its focus: "The other day, when there was a [Land of Israel] incident in [the nearby community of] Brachah, the administrator of the yeshiva stood at the gate and said that anyone who goes to Brachah will not be able to return to the yeshiva."

"We know that people come here because they identify with our goal of taking responsibility for the entire nation," the official said, "but we are making it clear that specific actions towards this end may not be taken during yeshiva time. If they want, they can do this during vacation time, or when they get older - but not here."

NRG-Maariv reported that the firing of the rocket was preceded by a phone call to the Yitzhar secretariat office, warning that a loud boom would be heard and should be ignored.  Army forces heard the explosion, however, and thought it was caused by terrorists.  They arrived quickly on the scene, but once they realized their mistake, investigation of the matter was transferred to the police and GSS.
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Re: Yitzhar
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 01:57:00 AM »

It's all so stupid. If I had ONE WISH, it would be for religion to evaporate from people's minds, including that of the state.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 08:15:51 AM »

It's all so stupid. If I had ONE WISH, it would be for religion to evaporate from people's minds, including that of the state.

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 08:18:48 AM »

Homemade Rocket Fired from Jewish Hilltop at Arab Village

Special edition, Man Bites Dog, read all about it.

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 10:27:05 AM »

Homemade Rocket Fired from Jewish Hilltop at Arab Village

Special edition, Man Bites Dog, read all about it.
Actually, I didn't see much news coverage of that event. Did it get a lot of coverage in Israel?

But while looking into Yitzhar, it almost seems like many of the Israeli settlers in the West Bank are the Jewish version of trailer trash, not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Israeli settlers are terrorists?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 04:36:17 PM »

http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&Do=&ID=37921
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Date: 19 / 05 / 2009  Time:  14:31

Qalqiliya – Ma’an – Israeli settlers set fire to farmland and assaulted Palestinian farmers and an Israeli activist in two villages east of the West Bank city of Qalqiliya on Tuesday.

Ma’an’s correspondent reports that large areas of wheat fields and olive groves went up in flames in the villages of Jit and Far’ata before firefighters arrived and extinguished the blaze.

Local residents said Israeli soldiers also attacked farmers, leaving many of them bruised among them Hani Arman, Othman As-Sadda, Ahmad Arman, Zakariyya As-Sadda, and an Israeli activist with the organization Rabbis for Human rights.

Soldiers also seized 15-year-old Murad Yamin.

According to farmers, fights erupted after settlers from the Gilad outpost attacked a rally in the area protesting previous settler attacks and Israeli Civil Administration’s claims that farmers do not own their land in spite of documents proving ownership.

http://www.imemc.org/article/60499
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Israeli settlers uproot trees in northern West Bank
 Thursday May 21, 2009

    Israeli settlers backed by the military uprooted on Thursday olive trees belonging to Palestinian farmers in the northern West Bank.

Farmers reported that troops and settlers came to their lands located near Salfit city on Thursday then forced them away and uprooted trees. The army announced the area a closed military zone and told famers they were not allowed back onto their lands.

http://english.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5442&Itemid=49
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Attacks by Israeli settlers on Palestinians and property on rise in West Bank, crops set on fire
22.05.09 - 13:26

Nablus / PNN – Israel settlers infiltrated the southern Nablus town of Burin this morning and set fire to 20 acres planted with a barley crop.

The agricultural land is owned by local farmers who report that Israeli settlers also set fire to homes.
Raja Muhammad, Abu Ammar, said today that the same settlers that came from Itshar Settlement at dawn today to burn crops set fire to his home three days ago leading to its full destruction.

The man said today that civil defense personnel who went to extinguish the blazes saw settlers fleeing the scene toward the nearby settlement of Itshar.

The people of Burin have contacted the Palestinian liaison with the Israeli army in order to file an official complaint in the matter.

Southern Nablus has been a frequent target of Israeli settlers for the past year with numerous reports of marauding settlers storming towns.

Fires, attacks and harassment have become the norm as settlement expansion continues and the Israeli administration says it will not stop, despite the illegality under international law.

http://www.imemc.org/article/60332
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Israeli settler children screaming “Death to Arabs” get Israeli military to close Palestinian land
Monday May 11, 2009

    A group of Israeli settler youth standing on a hillside near the Palestinian village of Beit Ummar got Israeli soldiers stationed nearby to prevent a group of Palestinian farmers, accompanied by international and Israeli human rights activists, from accessing their farmland.

The farmers, residents of the village of Beit Ummar, near Hebron in the southern West Bank, own farmland near the illegal Israeli settlement of Bet Ayin, which was constructed on illegally-confiscated Palestinian land.

The settlement continues to expand further and further onto Palestinian land, and the Palestinian farmers whose land lies nearby the expanding settlement have experienced increasing harassment over the last several months.

As the children stood on the hillside chanting “Death to all Arabs”, the Israeli soldiers showed the farmers and human rights observers a military order declaring their farmland to be a “closed military zone”, and forced them off their land at gunpoint.

This incident comes on the heels of a violent attack by a gang of masked Israeli settlers against two elderly Palestinian farmers, who were badly beaten on April 26th. One of them, Abdullah Soleiby, age 80, suffered severe head injuries when several Israeli soldiers held him down and hit him on the head with rocks.
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Re: Israeli settlers are terrorists?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2009, 01:05:49 PM »

Your sources are pure Arab propaganda.
That doesn't mean the events didn't happen.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2009, 01:51:35 PM »

Your sources are pure Arab propaganda.
That doesn't mean the events didn't happen.
It could mean the events didn't happen, it could mean that something happened but the account of the biased source is far from reliably describing the actual events. If you want to be considered seriously, use credible sources. You don't see me ever use ultra-right wing Israeli sources do you?
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2009, 02:01:11 PM »

Your sources are pure Arab propaganda.
That doesn't mean the events didn't happen.
It could mean the events didn't happen, it could mean that something happened but the account of the biased source is far from reliably describing the actual events. If you want to be considered seriously, use credible sources. You don't see me ever use ultra-right wing Israeli sources do you?
I could care less if you use ultra-right wing Israeli sources. I am willing to consider all sources.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 08:17:19 AM »

for the love of fuck,
i wish someone would create a jew/arab-only forum for you dickweeds
evry fuckin day with this shit
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2009, 09:19:27 AM »

for the love of fuck,
i wish someone would create a jew/arab-only forum for you dickweeds
evry fuckin day with this shit

Actually blackie has claimed that he is not pro-Arab, he just quotes stuff from the media.

Although all the stuff he has quoted to this day are pro-Arab.
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Re: Israeli settlers are terrorists?
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2009, 09:24:59 AM »

I am willing to consider all sources.
You don't seriously mean that do you? I could easily show you the absurdity of considering all sources of information as having equal validity.

If you show me a piece by BBC or NYTimes, I'll respond to it. But if you show me a piece by "independent" Palestinian journalists, I'll dismiss it as Arab propaganda. I hope that after all the posts I posted here you don't need another example of Palestinians sources caught lying and distorting facts.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2009, 09:40:01 AM »


Actually blackie has claimed that he is not pro-Arab, he just quotes stuff from the media.

Although all the stuff he has quoted to this day are pro-Arab.

i don't give a blue fuck what ''side'' he's on....
all-a you jew-arab shit-slingers should be relegated to a ''rubber-room/trolls'' section, and leave the rest of us in peace
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2009, 10:15:44 AM »

for the love of fuck,
i wish someone would create a jew/arab-only forum for you dickweeds
evry fuckin day with this shit


someone would launch a rocket at it.

and then it would get carpet bombed.
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