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Russ84

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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2005, 07:07:08 PM »

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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2005, 07:52:31 PM »

My condolences.
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2005, 08:17:35 PM »

Hrm...I've been using Google talk the whole time I was reading this.  Do they record your phone conversations too?   :P

Ahh well, I don't really care.  I find it Google to be useful just about every day, and it doesn't seem to be causing me any type of harm.  So it's all good.
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2005, 09:37:29 PM »

Here's the problem as I see it.  I work in the medical field and have been involved computers since the VIC-20 days (what's a vic-20?).  I love the internet as it is today because it is free and you can maintain a reasonable aount of privacy expecially on usenet.  That said, it is quickly becoming the means to track and trace everything everyone does in real time.  In the medical field, the gov is pushing for "paperless" medical files.  While this is useful for the medical field and for the patient in that it provides instant history, adverse medical reactions, etc, there is only one step remaining after implementing MANDATORY compliance with "paperless" systems.  Big brother needs only pass a bill mandating that all medical office systems interface with goverment links.  In this way, the gov does not need to maintain files on you but merely needs to mandate that your Dr. link to thier computers so they have access to every record.  Now the gov needs only "mandate" all business systems link to their computers and now every record on you is available to the snoops. 

Why would you care??  Once the above is in place, every purchase, every prescription, every movie you watch will be available to big brother.  Whatever evil big bro wants to do to you he now can.  Although the sheer amount of info would be overwhelming for current computing systems to handle, future systems will be able to handle them.  Even with todays systems, filtering software could sniff out all info on "persons of interest" (Like Ian) and find out daily movements, phone calls, purchases, and even reservations on transportation carriers.  You couldn't get away.  It would be even more intrusive than "1984" by Orwell.  If you did something the gov didn't like, they could locate you with your cell phone signal or by your latest credit card purchase.  They would be able to log on the the "superstore" security system and find you looking at the toothpaste on isle 12.  Punch a button, and the store security personal will be notified to hold you until your local black boot can show up.

Yeah, Google will keep the records of all your searches forever and when the gov passes a law stating that all libertarians are enemy's off the state and to round up all %1 of the pop who have claimed affilliation, Google's files will be accessed instantly, and Ian will be located and arrested for all the Google searches he did with libertarianism as the subject.  Irrefuteable evidence to be used against him in a court of law (if one even exists at that time...)
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2005, 09:46:45 PM »

Wow...deja vu!

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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2005, 09:49:41 PM »

And I thought I was on page one for a second... Trickery!  :lol:
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2005, 02:16:47 AM »

Yeah, Google is no longer pro-privacy.   But I take issue with the cache thing.  I often click on a google cache (either the website is down, or the content is removed, and the only way to find it is through google's cache!)  But yeah, after they went public, things started getting worse for their users.  Think about it, they now have to find some way to make money from you, the user, to pay all those stockholders who spend millions and millions of dollars buying Google shares... Spying on you and selling your info is one of the few ways a search engine can do that.
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2005, 11:24:25 AM »

It's pretty sad...because the people behind Google are exactly that - people.  And to see the decline in what they value as individuals and now as a company is rather disheartening.
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2005, 03:08:03 AM »

Yep, I agree.  I think it's the huge amounts of money corrupting them.  And that is one problem I have with pure free market capitalism i.e. Ian.  I agree with so much of libertarianism / freedom in theory, but I don't like the way someone is always profiting.  I would just feel like such a slave if I couldn't cross a street or walk down a sidewalk without signing a contract or paying someone for permission to use his "property".  But that's sorta off-subject ;) 
I mean when I look at the problems in our country, so many of them are rich people fucking over poorer people.  Power corrupts.  Money = Power.
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2005, 03:24:31 AM »

Money != Power

Force == Power
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2005, 03:37:19 AM »

I mean when I look at the problems in our country, so many of them are rich people fucking over poorer people.
...with the help of government. As taxes rise, income inequality rises along with it. It's no accident.
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2005, 04:01:54 AM »

I would just feel like such a slave if I couldn't cross a street or walk down a sidewalk without signing a contract or paying someone for permission to use his "property". But that's sorta off-subject ;)

Since the sidewalk is in front of a business, the business would own it, or maybe the local chamber of commerce. The owner wouldn't charge you to use it because he or she would want you to feel at ease and thus more likely to buy something from him or her.
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2005, 01:49:12 PM »

I still like Google, but I think there are better meta search engines coming into their own like Clusty.com which has a great interface and a topic sorter for each search. I remember when Google use to do stuff like that, but not anymore. :(

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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2005, 07:46:01 PM »

Well, I could go the Ian route and explain to you how the government is charging you to use a lot of things, but I don't have energy for that.   :lol:
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Re: Is Google turning into big brother?
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2005, 08:34:26 PM »

YES! and in other news the sky is blue and water is wet  :P
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