If you think there is lack of individual rights in Gaza, why do you blame the Israeli regime for it? Hamas is the authority controlling Gaza these days - if you think Hamas is not providing it's people with enough individual rights, take it up with them. Suppose that you perceive a lack of individual rights in the UK, do you go blaming France for it?
France don't restrict trade and movement between UK and french citizens.
France doesn't bomb smuggling tunnels on all of the UKs borders.
France doesn't periodically shut off electricity being purchased off France power companies.
France doesn't stop millions of dollars of food aid from reaching the UK.
France doesn't periodically bomb residential areas in the UK.
France don't do anything to make me less free as a person in the UK (or at least if they do its so minor I don't even notice).
I actually didn't mention "individual rights". Israel doesn't do alot of individual meddling with Gazans freedom. What it does do is a whole bunch of large scale stuff like restricting trade and movement of millions of people. Just because Israel aren't actually governing inside Gaza, doesn't mean they're not restricting freedom.
The whole "its hamas jurisdiction" is a complete straw man. The Egyptian government is bullshit, the Hamas government is bullshit, I agree, you don't have to keep bringing it up. I'm only talking about it with you because you don't agree that the Israeli government is bullshit.
You often like to portray that "Israel" is doing "Gaza" a favor by trading with them, supplying power, etc, and that "Israel" could quite easily "cut off" Gaza and they would be worse off.
Now "Israel" and "Gaza" aren't people, they're places. If Israeli companies don't want to do business with Gazan's than I expect that they won't trade. If electricity companies don't want to sell electricity to Gaza then I expect they won't do it.
Even if restricting trade stopped Hamas getting weapons (which it doesn't), it still wouldn't be justified, because the vast majority of Gazans haven't done anything wrong, haven't killed or stolen from anyone, and should be free to
Remember, we're not just talking about the restriction of weapons trade, but ALL TRADE under the guise of "stopping hamas getting weapons".
"its war" or "hamas need to surrender first" is arbitrary rhetoric, it doesn't change the fact that innocent people should be free to do whatever they want as long as they don't hurt anyone else
Has there been a period in history where Hamas haven't had weapons since the trade restrictions began?
Who do you think the
tunnel traders are dealing with? Egyptian and Israeli business men.
Obviously theres a demand for goods in Gaza above what Israel allow, or tunnel smugglers wouldn't spend thousands of dollars building tunnels to trade through.
Does "freedom to bear arms" dictate that you should allow or provide arms to your enemy so that he can shoot at you?
Do you make no distinction between those two positions? When have I ever said something like "Israel should give Hamas weapons". That is the worst straw man I've ever heard.
I don't want Hamas to be in power, I want them to be in jail, this doesn't mean I want to arrest or kill anyone else in Gaza
Can you not get it through your head that
there are other people in Gaza besides Hamas? Over a million of them, really, im not lying.All your arguments can be used to restrict freedoms anywhere.
People in every country in the world murder people with weapons. Why don't aren't you in favor in banning guns in Israel? Wouldn't it stop Israelis getting weapons to use for murders?
Oh wait, I forgot
"ITS WAR"