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Title: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: IndyCA on August 07, 2009, 11:48:23 PM
So the pieces are all starting to fit and I think my teen sister is a lesbian.  She has been caught not just once but twice with playboys in her early teens.  I brushed it off as curiosity but more puzzle pieces are fitting together.  Unlike my friend's sisters who comment about what guy actors they love, think are hot etc., she comments on how beautiful certain female actresses are.  She also points out cute girls when we are in a public place and comments about them.  The only guy she has had over was  flamboyantly gay and their 'date' was obviously strictly friendship.  I also walked in on some suspicious activity between her and a friend that was followed by poorly formed excuses. 

Don't get me wrong, I do not have a problem with it if she is.  In fact I am relieved that I will not have to fight any boyfriends that don't treat her right.  So what do you think?
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: BonerJoe on August 08, 2009, 12:00:58 AM
I think you're not very bright if it took you this long to piece things together.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 08, 2009, 12:14:11 AM
  So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life. 
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rebel on August 08, 2009, 12:42:38 AM
  So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life. 
Now that's what I call friendly advice. :roll:
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Libertarianssuck on August 08, 2009, 12:44:37 AM
  So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life. 
Now that's what I call friendly advice. :roll:

Well it's not really so nice but she's right. If she wants him to know she'll tell him. I'm sure she wouldn't like to know he's being nosy and trying to deliberate whether or not if she's lesbian with strangers on the internet.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: IndyCA on August 08, 2009, 12:54:08 AM
  So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life. 


What part of my post implied that I was nosing into anyone's sex life?  I could careless.  I was just pointing out what I observed over the years, for fucks sake...

Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rebel on August 08, 2009, 12:56:04 AM
  So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life. 
Now that's what I call friendly advice. :roll:
I'm sure she wouldn't like to know he's being nosy and trying to deliberate whether or not if she's lesbian with strangers on the internet.
Granted, but people are always gonna be interested in what their family members are up to. We don't know his name so it's harmless.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: IndyCA on August 08, 2009, 12:57:25 AM
  So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life. 
Now that's what I call friendly advice. :roll:

Well it's not really so nice but she's right. If she wants him to know she'll tell him. I'm sure she wouldn't like to know he's being nosy and trying to deliberate whether or not if she's lesbian with strangers on the internet.

You just contradicted yourself.  It is the fact that everyone is a stranger on the internet that makes it useful to ask for other's advice, opinion etc. that you would not talk about to people IRL.  As long as you do not post sensitive identifying information, your secrets stay out of your IRL.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Libertarianssuck on August 08, 2009, 01:01:41 AM
Well its not impossible to retrieve personal info. However if I had a close friend or relative I found out talking to a bunch of people about me being gay I'd be pissed off. I would rather have them talk to me if they are so inclined to figure it out.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 08, 2009, 01:13:14 AM
 So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life.  
What part of my post implied that I was nosing into anyone's sex life?  I could careless.  I was just pointing out what I observed over the years, for fucks sake...

Why  are you pointing out what you've observed over the years?  Why are you noting what "excuses" she offers?  Why do you care what excuses she offers in the first place?

She's figuring out her own sexuality.  Everyone does it.  If you really didn't care, you wouldn't have started a thread on a forum for complete strangers to discuss it.  But since you asked for our opinions, my opinion is to leave her alone.  If you really think she's a lesbian, then maybe drop some hints about how you'd be completely cool with that and then let it go.  People, especially women, can go through some dramatic changes in their sexuality in the teenage and college years.  There's really nothing you can, or should, do about it.  
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: IndyCA on August 08, 2009, 01:20:58 AM
  So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life. 
What part of my post implied that I was nosing into anyone's sex life?  I could careless.  I was just pointing out what I observed over the years, for fucks sake...

Why  are you pointing out what you've observed over the years?  Why are you noting what "excuses" she offers?  Why do you care what excuses she offers in the first place?

She's figuring out her own sexuality.  Everyone does it.  If you really didn't care, you wouldn't have started a thread on a forum for complete strangers to discuss it.  But since you asked for our opinions, my opinion is to leave her alone.  If you really think she's a lesbian, then maybe drop some hints about how you'd be completely cool with that and then let it go.  People, especially women, can go through some dramatic changes in their sexuality in the teenage and college years.  There's really nothing you can, or should, do about it. 
You should have posted this instead of that antagonistic one liner.

Btw when I said I could careless it was about what her orientation is. What it is, is something relevant since her and my father is an fundamentalist Christian with a history of mental illness.  I had only the best intentions in my inquiry.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 08, 2009, 01:49:51 AM
You should have posted this instead of that antagonistic one liner.

You asked for opinions; you got them.  

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Btw when I said I could careless it was about what her orientation is.

It's "I couldn't care less."  
Repeat: "I couldn't care less."  Note the "not" and the division between "care" and "less."

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What it is, is something relevant since her and my father is an fundamentalist Christian with a history of mental illness.

Well, you should've said so.  Sounds like you and your sister need to get away from Dad ASAP regardless of what your sexual orientations are.  The quickest way to do that is financial independence-- when you have a job and you're living on your own, then you don't have to give a damn about what your parents think of you.  If you're close to your sister, have a heart-to-heart talk and explain your concerns.  If you're not, then simply remind her that she won't be free to live the sexual life she wants (and neither will you) until you're on your own.  I know it's harsh, but ultimately it's the decision you (and she) will have to make.  Parents who do not rule their children financially cannot tell their children how to live.  
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: BonerJoe on August 08, 2009, 02:58:05 AM
/me sprays the water hose on Rillion.

Calm down.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rebel on August 08, 2009, 03:56:33 AM
Why do I feel like supporting Rillion's values right now? That usuallly doesn't happen.
So the pieces are all starting to fit and I think my teen sister is a lesbian.  She has been caught not just once but twice with playboys in her early teens.  I brushed it off as curiosity but more puzzle pieces are fitting together.  Unlike my friend's sisters who comment about what guy actors they love, think are hot etc., she comments on how beautiful certain female actresses are.  She also points out cute girls when we are in a public place and comments about them.  The only guy she has had over was  flamboyantly gay and their 'date' was obviously strictly friendship.  I also walked in on some suspicious activity between her and a friend that was followed by poorly formed excuses.  

Don't get me wrong, I do not have a problem with it if she is.  In fact I am relieved that I will not have to fight any boyfriends that don't treat her right.  So what do you think?
It'd be a big problem if my sister was shootin the breeze like that, but it wouldn't be on the waves like that. Not that I'd be disappointed, but things would be more interesting upon questioning. Check
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: LibertarianMan on August 08, 2009, 05:11:47 AM
 So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life.  


No offense intended, Rillion, but you should really learn some tact, for fuck's sake.

Look, I agree that he should stay of her personal life. I don't think it's any of his business, unless she makes it his business by flashing her sexual orientation in front of him and the other members of the family. (If that were to happen, then it would be her fault for advertising it by making it an "in-your-face" deal.) I don't know why he's posted it, and what the reason would be, and quite honestly, I don't care why he did it. I wish he didn't post it, but I don't get what I want out of the process.

But there's a better way to express this rather than attack the guy personally. Granted, what he did was stupid. He sounds like a spring chicken on here or even in his family, I'm sure. Fuck, I'll go so far as to say that he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed for posting this info about his sister. But let's cut him a break, for fuck's sake.

I am not offended by his post, although I will say that what he wrote is out of pure ignorance, and that's curable. But your mean-spirited, condescending remarks are hardly setting a good example for all of us. If you get pissed with my statement about this in advance, then what were you expecting? A homecoming hug, kiss, and dance? Your Neanderthalic attempt to address this won't educate his mind but rather close it. Is that what you want? What, did you actually think that he would learn this from you? Are you fucking kidding me or what? Totally lame and pathetic here.

What he did was stupid and lame, but not an attack as if he committed some sort of vile crime. Foolish? Yes. Insensitive? Yes. Immature? Yes. But worthy of an ad hominem over it? Fuck no!!

I've noticed over time that You've posted stupid shit on this board yourself, and don't tell me you haven't, because if you do, then I'll know you're lying about it.

Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: HOO-HAA on August 08, 2009, 05:24:12 AM
Every time I hear the word 'lesbian', I hear the distinct sound of 70's 'wah-wah' pedal in my head.

Please help me.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: LibertarianMan on August 08, 2009, 05:27:00 AM
/me sprays the water hose on Rillion.

Calm down.


No fucking shit.

She'd be the wrong pick for a Sunday advice column in the New Hampshire Free Press paper. She's no Ann Landers or Dr. Joyce Brother's, that's for sure.

Talking about being uber-insecure and uber-sensitive, for crying out loud.


Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: fatcat on August 08, 2009, 07:10:13 AM
So what do you think?

Write erotica about it.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Manuel_OKelly on August 08, 2009, 08:51:26 AM
Yeah, I imagine that today with the internet informing her and wise gay people giving her advice online, that her dropping hints is more a tactic then a symptom of her lesbianism.

However, lesbian girls get their hearts broken all the time.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: HOO-HAA on August 08, 2009, 08:57:20 AM
However, lesbian girls get their hearts broken all the time.

Chicka-wah-chicka-wah-chicka-wah-wah
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 08, 2009, 09:11:45 AM
does she have hot friends?
the only thing you should be worried about.....

lipstick lesbo's VS bull-dyke

the latter being absolutely intolerable.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: NuroSlam on August 08, 2009, 10:54:38 AM
does she have hot friends?
the only thing you should be worried about.....

lipstick lesbo's VS bull-dyke

the latter being absolutely intolerable.
Bam!
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Brooklyn Red Leg on August 08, 2009, 11:05:16 AM
does she have hot friends?
the only thing you should be worried about.....

lipstick lesbo's VS bull-dyke

the latter being absolutely intolerable.

Nah, I better not. Someone is liable to plot my untimely demise if I post what I'm thinkin. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: therealritasue on August 08, 2009, 11:27:13 AM
I gotta say I appreciate where Rillion's coming from on this one. Before he mentioned the part about his dad, the OP really just seemed like a big "My sister's a lesbian, what should I do?!" post, which is pretty ignorant sounding and irritating. I didn't post all angry-like when I read it, but there was ample eye-rolling, definitely.

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What he did was stupid and lame, but not an attack as if he committed some sort of vile crime. Foolish? Yes. Insensitive? Yes. Immature? Yes. But worthy of an ad hominem over it? Fuck no!!

How is "stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life" an ad hominem? Since he obviously seemed preoccupied enough with it to post about it, it simply seems like, you know, good advice.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Dylboz on August 08, 2009, 12:06:06 PM

It's "I couldn't care less."  
Repeat: "I couldn't care less."  Note the "not" and the division between "care" and "less."


THIS. SO FUCKING THIS!

The other shit, eh, whatever. So the dude's sister is totally gonna rock at softball. Good for her. But that butchered language crap really gets on my nerves. If you "could care less," then clearly, you DO in fact care. If you "could careless," I guess you're going to fall off a ladder or something.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 08, 2009, 12:14:36 PM
/me sprays the water hose on Rillion.

Calm down.

Thanks.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 08, 2009, 12:16:24 PM
 So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life.  


No offense intended, Rillion, but you should really learn some tact, for fuck's sake.

Look, I agree that he should stay of her personal life. I don't think it's any of his business, unless she makes it his business by flashing her sexual orientation in front of him and the other members of the family. (If that were to happen, then it would be her fault for advertising it by making it an "in-your-face" deal.) I don't know why he's posted it, and what the reason would be, and quite honestly, I don't care why he did it. I wish he didn't post it, but I don't get what I want out of the process.

But there's a better way to express this rather than attack the guy personally. Granted, what he did was stupid. He sounds like a spring chicken on here or even in his family, I'm sure. Fuck, I'll go so far as to say that he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed for posting this info about his sister. But let's cut him a break, for fuck's sake.

I am not offended by his post, although I will say that what he wrote is out of pure ignorance, and that's curable. But your mean-spirited, condescending remarks are hardly setting a good example for all of us. If you get pissed with my statement about this in advance, then what were you expecting? A homecoming hug, kiss, and dance? Your Neanderthalic attempt to address this won't educate his mind but rather close it. Is that what you want? What, did you actually think that he would learn this from you? Are you fucking kidding me or what? Totally lame and pathetic here.

What he did was stupid and lame, but not an attack as if he committed some sort of vile crime. Foolish? Yes. Insensitive? Yes. Immature? Yes. But worthy of an ad hominem over it? Fuck no!!

I've noticed over time that You've posted stupid shit on this board yourself, and don't tell me you haven't, because if you do, then I'll know you're lying about it.


Get. Over. Yourself.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Dylboz on August 08, 2009, 12:19:17 PM
Was that a deliberate attempt at irony? If not, that dude is up there with Alanis Morissette for the accidental kind. :P
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 08, 2009, 12:31:37 PM
I gotta say I appreciate where Rillion's coming from on this one. Before he mentioned the part about his dad, the OP really just seemed like a big "My sister's a lesbian, what should I do?!" post, which is pretty ignorant sounding and irritating. I didn't post all angry-like when I read it, but there was ample eye-rolling, definitely.

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What he did was stupid and lame, but not an attack as if he committed some sort of vile crime. Foolish? Yes. Insensitive? Yes. Immature? Yes. But worthy of an ad hominem over it? Fuck no!!

How is "stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life" an ad hominem? Since he obviously seemed preoccupied enough with it to post about it, it simply seems like, you know, good advice.

That's just the thing.  His initial post said he had no problem with the idea of his sister being a lesbian, but it also really sounded like he had a prurient interest in her sexual activities.  How many people spend that much time monitoring what their siblings do (or don't do) in bed?  Then he asks what we think about it?  What are we supposed to care?  I was three sheets to the wind last night and could've been more polite, but it was just a plain weird  post.

It wasn't until a few posts later that he mentioned the actual reason why his sister's lesbianism should be an issue of any concern to him, which is fundie Dad with mental illness.  At which point I suggested that Sister's best shot at sexual freedom is to become independent as quickly as possible.   Is that untrue?  Is that bad advice?  I guess I could've also added that she should probably not come out to Dad, if Dad doesn't already know, until she is  independent.  That way he can't kick her out of the house for it, or if he does kick her out she will at least have a landing pad.  

So, IndyCA-- I'm sorry for including the words "the fuck" in my initial response to you.  The reply to your first post should've been "Stay out of your sister's sexual life."   I'm sorry you have a fundie dad with mental illness, and hope he doesn't make life too difficult for you and your sister.  
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Harry Tuttle on August 08, 2009, 01:03:55 PM
I think you could be doing harm by painting someone as a lesbian when she might not be sure herself. If she decides she is a lesbian and feels comfortable in telling you then she will.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Zat on August 08, 2009, 01:12:55 PM

She'd be the wrong pick for a Sunday advice column in the New Hampshire Free Press paper. She's no Ann Landers or Dr. Joyce Brother's, that's for sure.



Can do an advice column in my paper anytime.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on August 08, 2009, 01:36:53 PM
Lesbian?  Humbug!

What one does for recreational sex is one's own business (barring any contractual obligations that say otherwise), but it is the duty of every healthy woman to have at least 2-3 children, more if possible.  That shall be so until men become more productive at baring children, or the laws of elementary arithmetic somehow change.  Failure to do so is demographic theft, no different than taxation or inflation!

We have a universe to conquer!  We'll never get off this rock we're on if people are allowed to have as few children as they want!  Heck, if current trends continue the human civilization will end up like an old woman who's fallen and she can't get up and there's no one to help her, because she wasted her life merely licking pussy instead of using it for its essential economic purpose!

  ...  or  ...  pay the childless tax (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=28831) instead!
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: CaL DaVe on August 08, 2009, 01:48:45 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. Just love your sister the way you would anyway. All that should matter is your relationship with her, not her relationships with others.



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Oh and this: :lol:

Write erotica about it.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 08, 2009, 02:11:38 PM
1. Most lipstick lesbians only exist in pornos... I've personally known one, but she was bisexual and was in a relationship with a good ol'boy when I knew her.

2. As soon as I start up my own underground paper I want Rillon writing the advice column.

3. Would the childless tax apply to people who've adopted children? Considering my genetics, I never want to breed.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Alex Libman 15 on August 08, 2009, 02:22:24 PM
Yes (it's mentioned on the thread (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=28831)) - the childless tax would encourage adoption as well as natalism.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 08, 2009, 02:35:51 PM
1. Most lipstick lesbians only exist in pornos...

bullshit...
ellen degenerate had/has 2

portia delrossi
& the 1st one.....the little blonde
in that harrison ford castaway movie
she's actuallly straight now, i guess.

there's others...
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 08, 2009, 02:40:56 PM
It doesn't matter what she is, but it matters how she perceives your acceptance.  

Springing the question is right out, because it IS none of your business.  You wouldn't want to embarrass the kid.  

You need to avoid innocent negative stereotyping of lezbos from the common male perspective, like making lewd sexual comments if two chicks are making out on television.  Example, if a good looking man and a good looking woman kissed on television, you wouldn't say "Oh god, hottt!!"  But many males do with the lezbo kiss.

So I would just avoid the subject altogether, and not offer any subtle comments like "I'm cool with that" and instead, opt for neutral ground.  Nothingness.  That is the only true path to real acceptance, as far as I'm concerned.  

People get fucked up with acceptance, and think they have to do positive things, like support rights and understand the culture, which often fails miserably.  From a perspective of neutrality, its like being accepting of a generic looking house among others, or blue sky, or who is in second place in NASCAR standings without caring about NASCAR at all.  It doesn't matter.  

Peoples senses are extremely attuned towards subtly shifted eyes, smirks, and lightly laid comments and white lies when they are "guilty" of something.  (don't get hung up on the word 'guilty', Rill)  You've gotta practice flushing all of that out of your system, and replacing it with "so what".  If she says "Indy, this is my friend Cathy", thats when it comes into play.  If things were different, you'd say "hey" and think nothing of it.  Thats the only way to be.

Eventually, it'll just be an assumed thing, nobody has to come dancing out of the closet.  Maybe one day, she'll say "...but you always knew that, its not like it was a big secret."  and you can say "yep".  But if between now and then, you attempt to broach the subject and make things awkward, you will be remembered as a difficult part of the process.  

Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: HOO-HAA on August 08, 2009, 04:14:32 PM
Was that a deliberate attempt at irony? If not, that dude is up there with Alanis Morissette for the accidental kind. :P

You're showing your age, Dyll.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 08, 2009, 04:28:11 PM
1. Most lipstick lesbians only exist in pornos...

bullshit...
ellen degenerate had/has 2

portia delrossi
& the 1st one.....the little blonde
in that harrison ford castaway movie
she's actuallly straight now, i guess.

there's others...

she's ellen degeneres, she has money

lesbian or not, money makes good looking women horny
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: LibertarianMan on August 08, 2009, 07:16:38 PM
 So what do you think?

I think you should stay the fuck out of your sister's sexual life.  


No offense intended, Rillion, but you should really learn some tact, for fuck's sake.

Look, I agree that he should stay of her personal life. I don't think it's any of his business, unless she makes it his business by flashing her sexual orientation in front of him and the other members of the family. (If that were to happen, then it would be her fault for advertising it by making it an "in-your-face" deal.) I don't know why he's posted it, and what the reason would be, and quite honestly, I don't care why he did it. I wish he didn't post it, but I don't get what I want out of the process.

But there's a better way to express this rather than attack the guy personally. Granted, what he did was stupid. He sounds like a spring chicken on here or even in his family, I'm sure. Fuck, I'll go so far as to say that he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed for posting this info about his sister. But let's cut him a break, for fuck's sake.

I am not offended by his post, although I will say that what he wrote is out of pure ignorance, and that's curable. But your mean-spirited, condescending remarks are hardly setting a good example for all of us. If you get pissed with my statement about this in advance, then what were you expecting? A homecoming hug, kiss, and dance? Your Neanderthalic attempt to address this won't educate his mind but rather close it. Is that what you want? What, did you actually think that he would learn this from you? Are you fucking kidding me or what? Totally lame and pathetic here.

What he did was stupid and lame, but not an attack as if he committed some sort of vile crime. Foolish? Yes. Insensitive? Yes. Immature? Yes. But worthy of an ad hominem over it? Fuck no!!

I've noticed over time that You've posted stupid shit on this board yourself, and don't tell me you haven't, because if you do, then I'll know you're lying about it.


Get. Over. Yourself.


The day I "get. over. [myself]." is the day you find a good avatar of yourself or buy a nice outfit and take a pic of yourself wearing it to put on your profile to match that stick up your ass.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 08, 2009, 08:08:17 PM

She'd be the wrong pick for a Sunday advice column in the New Hampshire Free Press paper. She's no Ann Landers or Dr. Joyce Brother's, that's for sure.

Can do an advice column in my paper anytime.

Why thankee, Zat (and The Maiden of Time)!   :D  My inspiration comes from thirteen years of reading a far better advice column, Savage Love.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=1973413 (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=1973413)  
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: fatcat on August 08, 2009, 10:03:36 PM
Why thankee, Zat (and The Maiden of Time)!   :D  My inspiration comes from thirteen years of reading a far better advice column, Savage Love.

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=1973413 (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=1973413)  

Just spent the last hour or so reading up on that guys archives.

Smart, incisive, and brutally honest. (and liberty leaning from what i can see)

thanks for the tip Rill.

edit: oh, and atheist, pwn (http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=1846864)
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 08, 2009, 11:25:38 PM


The day I "get. over. [myself]." is the day you find a good avatar of yourself or buy a nice outfit and take a pic of yourself wearing it to put on your profile to match that stick up your ass.

me-ow


Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 09, 2009, 01:58:59 AM
savage love is damn great.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 09, 2009, 12:54:04 PM
Just spent the last hour or so reading up on that guys archives. . . .liberty leaning from what i can see)

Well, kinda.  He wrote a very good book called "Skipping Towards Gomorrah" in which he rails against conservative moralists a lot and deliberately practices all of the seven deadly sins (except adultery, because since he's not married he can't cheat on his boyfriend).  But in the "anger" chapter he goes to a gun range in Dallas, finds out he's a very good shot, but still comes down rather on the anti-gun side.  He laments that the free speech, pro-marijuana people often aren't the same as the pro-gun people.  I wrote to him to tell him that a lot of us are, and he wrote back that he was glad to hear it.  He seems like more of a liberty-leaning liberal rather than a left-leaning libertarian, if that makes sense. 

All of his books are awesome, though....as is the Savage Love podcast.   I'm such a fangirl.   :lol:
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on August 09, 2009, 03:31:28 PM


Don't get me wrong, I do not have a problem with it if she is.  In fact I am relieved that I will not have to fight any boyfriends that don't treat her right.  So what do you think?


Yes, but are you prepared to beat down the first Bull-Dyke that begins harassing your sister?

You have to think of these angles, man!
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 09, 2009, 03:54:09 PM


Don't get me wrong, I do not have a problem with it if she is.  In fact I am relieved that I will not have to fight any boyfriends that don't treat her right.  So what do you think?


Yes, but are you prepared to beat down the first Bull-Dyke that begins harassing your sister?

You have to think of these angles, man!

I would consider that a bonus. 
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Dylboz on August 09, 2009, 07:22:02 PM
Was that a deliberate attempt at irony? If not, that dude is up there with Alanis Morissette for the accidental kind. :P

You're showing your age, Dyll.

I wish I could show my age MORE! I get carded for fucking lottery tickets! I'm 33 goddamned years of age, and clerks ten+ years younger than me stare with incredulity at my ID, even with sideburns, facial hair and at least a three day growth around the edges. They say "well, you've found the fountain of youth!" I say, "yeah, it's a liberal serving of Vodka and cranberry juice, thrice daily." They usually chuckle, but sometimes they frown. I guess I should consider it a blessing, given all I've been through. Three heart surgeries and a whole lot more in the way of medical problems, I should probably feel lucky for looking this young, but I still resent it.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: sinceredagreat on August 09, 2009, 08:15:59 PM
Bulldyke lesbians are an enigma of nature, and so are the women who date them, because logically they make no sense.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: rabidfurby on August 09, 2009, 08:38:20 PM
they make no sense.

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2848/chewbaccadefense.jpg)
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: sillyperson on August 09, 2009, 09:10:07 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2274/2242132459_cfde3e7a6c_o.jpg)
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 09, 2009, 09:13:06 PM
this is awesome....
the ''bull-dyke'' (bob dylan lookalike w/ tits @ 1:15)
[youtube=425,350]TAScEr8EVG0[/youtube]


cock-knockers....
click on the ''watch on you tube''
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 09, 2009, 09:24:49 PM
Bulldyke lesbians are an enigma of nature, and so are the women who date them, because logically they make no sense.


shit you talk, brutha...

theys dykes that act the 'man' part (bulldyke), with pants, chain wallets, cowboy boots & shit, coupled wif the 'wife' half of the couple.

all day long, w/ this shit
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 09, 2009, 09:35:22 PM
Bulldyke lesbians are an enigma of nature, and so are the women who date them, because logically they make no sense.

Logically who does  make sense?  I'd rather date a bull dyke than a lot of men in this world. 
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 09, 2009, 10:18:48 PM
Bulldyke lesbians are an enigma of nature, and so are the women who date them, because logically they make no sense.

Logically who does  make sense?  I'd rather date a bull dyke than a lot of men in this world. 

~_O
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 10, 2009, 09:24:54 AM
Bulldyke lesbians are an enigma of nature, and so are the women who date them, because logically they make no sense.

Logically who does  make sense?  I'd rather date a bull dyke than a lot of men in this world. 


can we watch?
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: HOO-HAA on August 10, 2009, 10:31:06 AM
Bulldyke lesbians are an enigma of nature, and so are the women who date them, because logically they make no sense.

Logically who does  make sense?  I'd rather date a bull dyke than a lot of men in this world. 


can we watch?


chicka-waka-chicka-waka-chicka-waka
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 10, 2009, 12:37:08 PM
anne heche
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: davann on August 10, 2009, 03:28:51 PM
Keep your fingers crossed that she is. Here is a list of pros.

1. Men and women tend to think in different ways. This leads to all sorts of trouble for both. Women dating women makes for far more compatible relationsships.

2. It is not only socially acceptable for women to like women, it has become encouraged.

3. They will get an actual answer when they ask, "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?".

4. Odds are increased on sexual compatibility. A woman knows what a woman likes. Men could not care less half the time, some times more.   

5. If attractive and the sexual partner is also attractive there is a built in audience for viewing inmate acts on line. Charge for that stuff and make a good living. The target audience is huge. Then again there is a market for bull dykes too, but I imagine the target group is smaller. Still, people pay to see any of this.

6. It's hot.

7. Increased odds of having common interests. No deer season/super bowl widows.

Not that I want a sex change, I would just really like being a lesbian I think.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: John Shaw on August 10, 2009, 06:10:23 PM
Keep your fingers crossed that she is. Here is a list of pros.

1. Men and women tend to think in different ways. This leads to all sorts of trouble for both. Women dating women makes for far more compatible relationsships.

2. It is not only socially acceptable for women to like women, it has become encouraged.

3. They will get an actual answer when they ask, "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?".

4. Odds are increased on sexual compatibility. A woman knows what a woman likes. Men could not care less half the time, some times more.   

5. If attractive and the sexual partner is also attractive there is a built in audience for viewing inmate acts on line. Charge for that stuff and make a good living. The target audience is huge. Then again there is a market for bull dykes too, but I imagine the target group is smaller. Still, people pay to see any of this.

6. It's hot.

7. Increased odds of having common interests. No deer season/super bowl widows.

Not that I want a sex change, I would just really like being a lesbian I think.


If any of this were true then gay males would have more stable relationships as well, which they don't.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: davann on August 10, 2009, 06:44:26 PM
Keep your fingers crossed that she is. Here is a list of pros.

1. Men and women tend to think in different ways. This leads to all sorts of trouble for both. Women dating women makes for far more compatible relationsships.

2. It is not only socially acceptable for women to like women, it has become encouraged.

3. They will get an actual answer when they ask, "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?".

4. Odds are increased on sexual compatibility. A woman knows what a woman likes. Men could not care less half the time, some times more.   

5. If attractive and the sexual partner is also attractive there is a built in audience for viewing inmate acts on line. Charge for that stuff and make a good living. The target audience is huge. Then again there is a market for bull dykes too, but I imagine the target group is smaller. Still, people pay to see any of this.

6. It's hot.

7. Increased odds of having common interests. No deer season/super bowl widows.

Not that I want a sex change, I would just really like being a lesbian I think.


If any of this were true then gay males would have more stable relationships as well, which they don't.


All are true except for #6 for men which explains the lack of stability. I always assumed one would find ones self in such a position sexually that the view turns one off to the point to end the relationship and go back to the attractive sex for awhile. I mean really, how can a hanging turkey neck looking thing be anything but the opposite of hot?
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 10, 2009, 07:02:30 PM
Keep your fingers crossed that she is. Here is a list of pros.

1. Men and women tend to think in different ways. This leads to all sorts of trouble for both. Women dating women makes for far more compatible relationsships.

2. It is not only socially acceptable for women to like women, it has become encouraged.

3. They will get an actual answer when they ask, "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?".

4. Odds are increased on sexual compatibility. A woman knows what a woman likes. Men could not care less half the time, some times more.   

5. If attractive and the sexual partner is also attractive there is a built in audience for viewing inmate acts on line. Charge for that stuff and make a good living. The target audience is huge. Then again there is a market for bull dykes too, but I imagine the target group is smaller. Still, people pay to see any of this.

6. It's hot.

7. Increased odds of having common interests. No deer season/super bowl widows.

Not that I want a sex change, I would just really like being a lesbian I think.


If any of this were true then gay males would have more stable relationships as well, which they don't.


Men, straight or gay, are far more sexually flighty than women.  That doesn't make any of the items on the list untrue.   :D
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Bill Brasky on August 10, 2009, 11:57:46 PM
Keep your fingers crossed that she is. Here is a list of pros.

1. Men and women tend to think in different ways. This leads to all sorts of trouble for both. Women dating women makes for far more compatible relationsships.

2. It is not only socially acceptable for women to like women, it has become encouraged.

3. They will get an actual answer when they ask, "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?".

4. Odds are increased on sexual compatibility. A woman knows what a woman likes. Men could not care less half the time, some times more.   

5. If attractive and the sexual partner is also attractive there is a built in audience for viewing inmate acts on line. Charge for that stuff and make a good living. The target audience is huge. Then again there is a market for bull dykes too, but I imagine the target group is smaller. Still, people pay to see any of this.

6. It's hot.

7. Increased odds of having common interests. No deer season/super bowl widows.

Not that I want a sex change, I would just really like being a lesbian I think.


If any of this were true then gay males would have more stable relationships as well, which they don't.


Men, straight or gay, are far more sexually flighty than women.  That doesn't make any of the items on the list untrue.   :D

Flighty. 

I'm having trouble typing the sound of an air horn signaling 'foul'. 
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Harry Tuttle on August 11, 2009, 12:55:52 AM
I'm having trouble typing the sound of an air horn signaling 'foul'. 

and yet masterfully accomplished
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 11, 2009, 11:10:56 AM
Flighty. 

I'm having trouble typing the sound of an air horn signaling 'foul'. 

Yeah, it was the wrong word.  The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.  When you put two people like that together, their relationships are likely not going to be as stable as putting two people who are not  like that together, or putting one person like that with a person who isn't like that. 

Stability, however, is not the end-all and be-all.  If everybody wants to be slutty, then being slutty isn't a bad thing. 
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on August 11, 2009, 11:40:51 AM
To the original poster,

Don't worry, it's normal that some portion of the population will find their own sex to be attractive.  Don't get into a tizzy trying to impress her with your straight-supporting gay-fu. Just be the bro that you are already. :-P
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: HOO-HAA on August 11, 2009, 04:59:31 PM
'My Sister is A Lesbian'

Brought to you by the same people who did 'My Brother is A Priest' and 'Doctors and Nurses' 
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Brooklyn Red Leg on August 11, 2009, 05:29:09 PM
The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.

Can we help it if we evolved on a world where there are more women than men?
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 11, 2009, 06:01:17 PM
The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.

Can we help it if we evolved on a world where there are more women than men?

Hey, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing....but if male sluttiness had evolved along with a greater tolerance for female sluttiness, that might've helped.   :)
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Harry Tuttle on August 11, 2009, 06:58:26 PM
I, for one, support female sluttiness.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 12, 2009, 04:51:39 AM
The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.

Can we help it if we evolved on a world where there are more women than men?

Hey, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing....but if male sluttiness had evolved along with a greater tolerance for female sluttiness, that might've helped.   :)

'Very rare was it for a man in Venice to say, 'I bear the same name as my father.'" - Giacomo Casanova

Male sluttiness spreads genes around. Female sluttiness endangers the possibility of the partner male's genes surviving to the next generation.

Evolutionary biology sort of freaks me out sometimes.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: kalmia on August 12, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.

Can we help it if we evolved on a world where there are more women than men?

Hey, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing....but if male sluttiness had evolved along with a greater tolerance for female sluttiness, that might've helped.   :)

'Very rare was it for a man in Venice to say, 'I bear the same name as my father.'" - Giacomo Casanova

Male sluttiness spreads genes around. Female sluttiness endangers the possibility of the partner male's genes surviving to the next generation.

Evolutionary biology sort of freaks me out sometimes.

I think there is a reason that a woman will produce a few hundred eggs in a lifetime, and man will produce several hundred million sperm in a day.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: conrad from spain on August 12, 2009, 07:08:40 AM
The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.

Can we help it if we evolved on a world where there are more women than men?

Hey, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing....but if male sluttiness had evolved along with a greater tolerance for female sluttiness, that might've helped.   :)

'Very rare was it for a man in Venice to say, 'I bear the same name as my father.'" - Giacomo Casanova

Male sluttiness spreads genes around. Female sluttiness endangers the possibility of the partner male's genes surviving to the next generation.

Evolutionary biology sort of freaks me out sometimes.

I think there is a reason that a woman will produce a few hundred eggs in a lifetime, and man will produce several hundred million sperm in a day.

If you think there's a "reason," than you believe in intelligent design.. Which we all know is bullshit..

if women produced millions of eggs.. then humans would probably be as populous as fruit flies..
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 12, 2009, 10:46:08 AM
If you think there's a "reason," than you believe in intelligent design.. Which we all know is bullshit..

if women produced millions of eggs.. then humans would probably be as populous as fruit flies..

Only if producing millions of eggs somehow decreased our gestation period.  But if it still took 9 months to pop out a kid, I don't think the number of eggs we start out with would make any difference.  

 
'Very rare was it for a man in Venice to say, 'I bear the same name as my father.'" - Giacomo Casanova

Male sluttiness spreads genes around. Female sluttiness endangers the possibility of the partner male's genes surviving to the next generation.

Evolutionary biology sort of freaks me out sometimes.

Then you probably shouldn't read David Buss' books "The Dangerous Passion: Why Jealousy is Necessary in Love and Sex" or "The Evolution Of Desire"....although they are both great, great reads.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 12, 2009, 12:25:21 PM


if women produced millions of eggs.. then humans would probably be as populous as fruit flies..

the chinese seem to be there already
africa close behind
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 12, 2009, 02:16:41 PM
The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.

Can we help it if we evolved on a world where there are more women than men?

Hey, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing....but if male sluttiness had evolved along with a greater tolerance for female sluttiness, that might've helped.   :)

'Very rare was it for a man in Venice to say, 'I bear the same name as my father.'" - Giacomo Casanova

Male sluttiness spreads genes around. Female sluttiness endangers the possibility of the partner male's genes surviving to the next generation.

Evolutionary biology sort of freaks me out sometimes.

I think there is a reason that a woman will produce a few hundred eggs in a lifetime, and man will produce several hundred million sperm in a day.

If you think there's a "reason," than you believe in intelligent design.. Which we all know is bullshit..

if women produced millions of eggs.. then humans would probably be as populous as fruit flies..

Superior genes create the reason. Although the mystical side of me believes that somehow the sum total of human consciousness directs the evolution of the species somehow.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Rillion on August 12, 2009, 02:35:22 PM
Although the mystical side of me believes that somehow the sum total of human consciousness directs the evolution of the species somehow.

If you remove the voodoo stuff, that's true in a way-- humans are capable of consciously controlling their own evolution.  In the grand scheme of things it might not be a big deal, but the advancement of medical technology and our choices about who is allowed to live and die does have an effect on the population of people who are able to survive and pass on their genes to the next generation.  Stephen Hawking would have been left to die two centuries ago, but then so would some guy with Downs Syndrome.  So it seems like it would be a wash, but it actually isn't since we're so numerous and wealthy that we can afford to bear the load of bunch of a retards for the sake of one new genius.  

Yeah, I'm in a twisted mood today.  Don't mind me.

Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: spicynujac on August 15, 2009, 12:55:07 PM
Yeah, Dan Savage is great.  He's a some-time Real Time reporter on Bill Maher's show (as is the also-great Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone).  Bill sent him to a republican convention during the presidential election to cover it.  Pretty funny stuff.  (He's an openly gay man, in case that's not clear in his articles).  He made some conservatives awfully uncomfortable with some hilarious questions.

As for your sister, just let her know subtly that you are not like your dad and open to people of other faiths, backgrounds, and sexual orientations.  Then she will feel comfortable to talk about this if she needs to.  I agree that it would have benefits, although there are also drawbacks.  Still, another couple generations and most of the anti-gay bigots will be wiped out.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on August 16, 2009, 05:38:13 PM
6. It's hot.

Not when it's your sister.

 :shock:

Not unless it's twincest, then it's doubly hot.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on August 16, 2009, 05:40:04 PM
6. It's hot.

Not when it's your sister.

 :shock:

Not unless it's twincest, then it's doubly hot.

Sometimes, I worry...

You've never given up on me, Alfred? :3
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Brooklyn Red Leg on August 17, 2009, 07:19:35 AM
The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.

Can we help it if we evolved on a world where there are more women than men?

Hey, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing....but if male sluttiness had evolved along with a greater tolerance for female sluttiness, that might've helped.   :)-

I fully support a woman's right to be just as slutty as a man cause, well, I haven't gotten laid in about 2 weeks. Slut. prostitute or porn star, whichever comes first into my life.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 17, 2009, 07:22:13 AM
Pics or it didn't happen?
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Cowcidile on August 17, 2009, 11:53:16 AM
I think you should greet your sister as "dyke." from now on, Make sure you introduce her to people as your lesbian sibling.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 17, 2009, 11:58:34 AM
I think you should greet your sister as "dyke." from now on, Make sure you introduce her to people as your lesbian sibling.


"dykey, by crikey''
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Zat on August 17, 2009, 12:27:49 PM
Audition her for Jesus Christ : Vampire Hunter II
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Njal on August 17, 2009, 03:46:22 PM
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Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: kalmia on August 18, 2009, 04:05:26 PM
The point was that men--IN GENERAL-- want sex more, they want more of it, and they want it with more people.

Can we help it if we evolved on a world where there are more women than men?

Hey, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing....but if male sluttiness had evolved along with a greater tolerance for female sluttiness, that might've helped.   :)

'Very rare was it for a man in Venice to say, 'I bear the same name as my father.'" - Giacomo Casanova

Male sluttiness spreads genes around. Female sluttiness endangers the possibility of the partner male's genes surviving to the next generation.

Evolutionary biology sort of freaks me out sometimes.

I think there is a reason that a woman will produce a few hundred eggs in a lifetime, and man will produce several hundred million sperm in a day.

If you think there's a "reason," than you believe in intelligent design.. Which we all know is bullshit..

if women produced millions of eggs.. then humans would probably be as populous as fruit flies..

Women that produced too many eggs would die from having too many fetuses developing in them.  Some probably did and didn't pass on their excessive egg producing genes.

Since they have to carry the embryo (and what results) for 9 months and not just drop the fertilized eggs the way fruit flies would, they have to be more selective about who fertilizes them and when.  Even though there are artificial ways of changing all this now, they are still going to have the instincts.
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: Riddler on August 18, 2009, 09:25:29 PM
who cares about all this fla-fla....= irrelevant.
what we WANT TO KNOW, STILL, IS
what is the hotness factor here?
PICS<PICS<PICS
Title: Re: I think my sister is a lesbian.
Post by: HOO-HAA on August 20, 2009, 06:33:26 PM
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/spikyprofile74/aliennation.jpg)