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bonerjoe

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Re: I'm tired of repeating myself...
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2007, 09:43:09 PM »

you are misrepresenting the texts if you don't advocate the murder of various groups of people.

MuslimNonarchist has shown quite clearly in various discussions around the BBS that this isn't true.

That's just his interpritaton.

That doesn't mean he's misinterpreting though.

He's still an idiot for letting a book about a sky fairy run his life.
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Re: I'm tired of repeating myself...
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2007, 09:47:00 PM »

you are misrepresenting the texts if you don't advocate the murder of various groups of people.

MuslimNonarchist has shown quite clearly in various discussions around the BBS that this isn't true.

That's just his interpritaton.

That doesn't mean he's misinterpreting though.

He's still an idiot for letting a book about a sky fairy run his life.

But then you aren't exactly the greatest authority on anything (other than perhaps homosexual porn)...

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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2007, 09:47:40 PM »

you are misrepresenting the texts if you don't advocate the murder of various groups of people.

MuslimNonarchist has shown quite clearly in various discussions around the BBS that this isn't true.

That's just his interpritaton.

That doesn't mean he's misinterpreting though.

He's still an idiot for letting a book about a sky fairy run his life.

From reading his posts, it doesn’t seem to run his life. He seems to consider everything from his own perspective rather than letting others determine it for him.
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bonerjoe

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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2007, 09:50:31 PM »

But then you aren't exactly the greatest authority on anything (other than perhaps homosexual porn)...

A Christian Anarchist, the epitome of bullshit.
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bonerjoe

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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2007, 09:51:04 PM »

From reading his posts, it doesn’t seem to run his life. He seems to consider everything from his own perspective rather than letting others determine it for him.

Riiiight.
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Re: I'm tired of repeating myself...
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2007, 10:38:56 PM »


Prove it doesn't.

Hey! I already proved God doesn't exist in another thread. I looked around; saw nothing.

I can't see atoms. Therfore they don't exist.
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We weren't talking about atoms, but about gods. In any case, I see atoms all around me. Piles of 'em, in fact!
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bonerjoe

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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2007, 10:41:02 PM »


Prove it doesn't.

Hey! I already proved God doesn't exist in another thread. I looked around; saw nothing.

I can't see atoms. Therfore they don't exist.

We weren't talking about atoms, but about gods. In any case, I see atoms all around me. Piles of 'em, in fact!
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But prove that they're made of atoms.
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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2007, 10:50:54 PM »


Prove it doesn't.

Hey! I already proved God doesn't exist in another thread. I looked around; saw nothing.

I can't see atoms. Therfore they don't exist.

We weren't talking about atoms, but about gods. In any case, I see atoms all around me. Piles of 'em, in fact!

But prove that they're made of atoms.
[/quote]Please.  There are vast amounts of evidence that atoms exist.  The entire field of chemistry works because atoms exist.
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bonerjoe

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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2007, 11:03:12 PM »


Prove it doesn't.

Hey! I already proved God doesn't exist in another thread. I looked around; saw nothing.

I can't see atoms. Therfore they don't exist.

We weren't talking about atoms, but about gods. In any case, I see atoms all around me. Piles of 'em, in fact!

But prove that they're made of atoms.
Please.  There are vast amounts of evidence that atoms exist.  The entire field of chemistry works because atoms exist.
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But I can't see them.
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ladyattis

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« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2007, 11:38:01 PM »

But I can't see them.

Read letter 1 in On the Nature of the Universe by Lucretius, it's the best pre-modern-science explanation for atoms (in this case from the Epicurean theory of them).

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bonerjoe

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« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2007, 11:40:10 PM »

But I can't see them.

Read letter 1 in On the Nature of the Universe by Lucretius, it's the best pre-modern-science explanation for atoms (in this case from the Epicurean theory of them).

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Can't you c/p for me, oh gracious one?
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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2007, 11:43:32 PM »

But I can't see them.

Read letter 1 in On the Nature of the Universe by Lucretius, it's the best pre-modern-science explanation for atoms (in this case from the Epicurean theory of them).

-- Brede

Can't you c/p for me, oh gracious one?

lemme see if I can find a copy of it on archive.org

-- Brede

EDIT: Here you go.
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bonerjoe

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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2007, 11:55:23 PM »

PDF, yay, thx.
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Re: I'm tired of repeating myself...
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2007, 01:53:34 AM »

Quote from: Ceon
In reality it doesn't matter if MuslimNonarchist has the right interpretation, Muslims around the world will go on believing the flawed version and they’ll carry out both acts of kindness and brutality because of it.
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He's still an idiot for letting a book about a sky fairy run his life.
Quote from: Ceon
From reading his posts, it doesn’t seem to run his life. He seems to consider everything from his own perspective rather than letting others determine it for him.

Which goes to show that people should not delegate their understanding of morality to a greater being which cannot (or at least does not) coerce them to do so and does not even speak directly to them. They choose to abandon reason and submit blindly to something else.
Doesn't Islam (or some other prominent term) mean "submit" or "submission" (to God)? What kind of submission is asked for?

Of course, MuslimNonarchist came to his own conclusions about morality and found an interpretation of the Quran that agreed with it, so he is hardly guilty of attempting to abdicate his responsibility to a greater being.
Some people however (no idea if this is a majority or not), will instead blindly follow their religious leaders.
And others will use it to justify their murderous aims (ie. usually said leaders, and they too came to their own conclusions about morality and found an interpretation that agreed with it). They are petty murderers and they will attempt to blame God for it.

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Correct. Muslim is a typical religious fanatic. Lots of his posts are based on all sorts of outrageous mysticism. He's been duped into thinking he is on the right track, but he is oh so wrong. He is highly delusional.

I tend to agree he his a very mystic person. What I cannot know for a fact is whether or not he is actually justified in being the mystic person he is.
However, from a logical standpoint, there is every reason to not subscribe to any God or interpretation of the "holy" books. And because of that, it will take overwhelming evidence to convince me of the contrary, whereas I can easily be convinced of many things without much (if any) direct proof.

It would seem the Abrahamic God (if my understanding is correct) cannot exist because of logical contradictions. Some other God might, but again, logic leads me to a lack of belief and to hold the position that such a conscious, independent, primordial supreme being is highly unlikely to exist (because there are so many possible alternative explanations with equal value and no evidence to favor any of them).
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Re: I'm tired of repeating myself...
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2007, 11:21:19 AM »

It's amazing that, in the pre-Jesus age, the ancient Greeks were producing deep thinkers such as Lucretius, Pythagoras, and Aristotle, and great dramatists such as Aeschylus, Aristophanes, Euripides, and Sophocles. Meanwhile, those in ancient Palestine were composing the stilted text of the Bible.   
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