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Bill Brasky

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Re: I'm not a porcupine anymore
« Reply #285 on: July 16, 2009, 11:15:11 PM »

You honestly believe a lack of firearm regulations and registry is more importanrt than the freedom to conduct business?  I feel the need to remind you, business is where you buy the guns.
There are firearm regulations, and there are restrictions on the type of business you can conduct. When I compare places that may be better for me to live, I look at the things that affect me. NH gun laws are decent. I don't go to strip clubs or bars, or even drink, so the regulation on those things don't really affect me. I don't have anything against strip clubs or bars, and think NH is silly about some of that stuff.

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You should be free to open a business of your choice, and operate within the guidelines.
How it should be, and how it is are two different things. That is why you have to make trade offs.

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If there were three licensed gun dealers in NH, you'd have a very different opinion.
I'm not sure that would bother me, as long as I can buy the types of guns I want. I think I have only been to three gun shop in NH. If NH had the same restrictions on guns that MA has, that would be a problem for me.

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Picking and choosing what's a concern based on your opinion of what they sell is not cool.  Consistancy is important.
I don't know. It's not based on my opinion of what they sell, it based on the fact that I am not a consumer of what they sell. Just like fatcat doesn't really care about the homeschool laws in Zug because it's not something that affects him, strip clubs aren't a big issue for me because I don't frequent them. When I investigate places to live, I look at the issues that affect me. Homeschooling is a bigger issue than guns for me.

That doesn't mean I think strip clubs should be restricted. You have to make some trade-offs some where, so I choose to do it on issues that don't really affect me. If I still drank, the state run liquor stores would piss me off. But I don't, so I don't really care about it.

I can appreciate that, and I guess its the SOP that most people would adopt. 

I don't do any of that shit anymore either, and rarely drink.  But I think it sets a dangerous precedent to disallow a legal enterprise to all but an elite few. 

It kinda makes me wonder who owns those licenses, and who they're connected to.   
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« Reply #286 on: July 17, 2009, 12:43:19 AM »


Certainly there are obstacles the seasteading. I've never said its a sure thing, or the only opportunity on the table (as opposed to some FSPers).

However, you can buy a boat now, and be pretty much govern-less so long as you aren't dealing with nuclear materials, or shipping large amounts of drugs to a mainland.

All seasteading is is an extension of that idea. Be it linking a bunch of boats together, or a floating platform or a oil rig style stationary platform.

Given that the SI already has

The great hope for Seasteading is that its not a political issue. Its not a matter of taking down a government, or getting people to migrate, or getting people to vote, or a bunch of other hard to control factors. Its logistical.

Get money - build stuff.

But I'd say its significantly more likely that I could be in a seastead 20 years from now buying heroin and paying no tax than doing the same in New Hampshire.

I don't see how calling seasteading a "sad parody" of a "horrible movie" is an effective argument.

Might governments intervene with a seastead? Possibly. Is it a hell of a lot less likely than the US government intervening in New Hampshire? yup.

It is bad science fiction is what it is.  The problem is logistical?  That is just another way to say that it is going to be extremely expensive.

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« Reply #287 on: July 17, 2009, 12:47:07 AM »

And you dont think the seasteading institute isnt getting plenty of funding? You dont think that they have researchers and engineers who can really produce something of value that would actually work? Why dont you check out the site and get involved in some of the forum discussions. Check out the blue prints and the logistics. See what they have planned. Or wait till next year when they have their first test case and see how it goes from there. I'd give it some time. I think they can do more then ur giving credit to it.
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« Reply #288 on: July 17, 2009, 09:54:36 AM »

Anyway, I think the trade-off is acceptable.  Going down the checklist, there seems to be more green checkmarks in Zug's column.  Not that I intend to go anywhere in the next several years.  I'll probably end up in the Bahamas.   

There are some basic things on my list that make a place totally unacceptable, and Switzerland fails.

All the women in Switzerland look EXACTLY like this!!! I say your list means nothing in the face of this.

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« Reply #289 on: July 17, 2009, 01:34:26 PM »

Anyway, I think the trade-off is acceptable.  Going down the checklist, there seems to be more green checkmarks in Zug's column.  Not that I intend to go anywhere in the next several years.  I'll probably end up in the Bahamas.   

There are some basic things on my list that make a place totally unacceptable, and Switzerland fails.

All the women in Switzerland look EXACTLY like this!!! I say your list means nothing in the face of this.



Why not just move to California with that attitude. I mean, they did write a song about it:

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« Reply #290 on: July 17, 2009, 02:29:55 PM »

Anyway, I think the trade-off is acceptable.  Going down the checklist, there seems to be more green checkmarks in Zug's column.  Not that I intend to go anywhere in the next several years.  I'll probably end up in the Bahamas.   

There are some basic things on my list that make a place totally unacceptable, and Switzerland fails.

All the women in Switzerland look EXACTLY like this!!! I say your list means nothing in the face of this.



OK.  I'm convinced. 
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« Reply #291 on: July 17, 2009, 05:55:00 PM »

Anyway, I think the trade-off is acceptable.  Going down the checklist, there seems to be more green checkmarks in Zug's column.  Not that I intend to go anywhere in the next several years.  I'll probably end up in the Bahamas.   

There are some basic things on my list that make a place totally unacceptable, and Switzerland fails.

All the women in Switzerland look EXACTLY like this!!! I say your list means nothing in the face of this.



Why not just move to California with that attitude. I mean, they did write a song about it:

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I think when the Beach Boys wrote that song way back when, CA was a different place.  I think that was before we got overrun by socialist assholes.  But still, I think CA girls are still the hottest.
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« Reply #292 on: July 18, 2009, 01:42:59 PM »

lee roth ruined that song
only thing going for the video was hot chix
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« Reply #293 on: July 19, 2009, 09:20:40 AM »

Would be nice...



swimming pool next to ocean...
It seems to me that it is a waste of space. Also the buildings need to be domed to avoid wave damage during  the hurricanes it can't avoid.
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« Reply #294 on: July 19, 2009, 03:48:12 PM »

Would be nice...



swimming pool next to ocean...
It seems to me that it is a waste of space. Also the buildings need to be domed to avoid wave damage during  the hurricanes it can't avoid.


ahhh, maybe people don't want to dive 100 feet into the ocean....
mebbe some peeps don dig on salt water...
also, are those underground parking spaces?
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« Reply #295 on: August 13, 2009, 11:25:49 PM »

Funny, my wife and I live in Colorado and want to move to NH.
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« Reply #296 on: September 07, 2009, 12:54:16 AM »

Funny, my wife and I live in Colorado and want to move to NH.

My girlfriend thinks its too cold in NH, and its really tough to convince her to move there (she has arthritis and gets quite sore during bad weather).  Colorado may be the middle ground, if activists are gathering there at all.
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« Reply #297 on: September 07, 2009, 06:16:13 PM »

Funny, my wife and I live in Colorado and want to move to NH.

My girlfriend thinks its too cold in NH, and its really tough to convince her to move there (she has arthritis and gets quite sore during bad weather).  Colorado may be the middle ground, if activists are gathering there at all.

No.  Actually, pro-freedom folks are leaving CO for WY and NH.  I know of folks that have left CO for both states.  Though, unless you are talking about southern CO, it's not much different than NH.

Good luck.
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« Reply #298 on: September 08, 2009, 12:56:07 AM »

I must have gotten CO mixed up with WY. I've been researching WY today and I joined the FSW boards and introduced myself.
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« Reply #299 on: September 08, 2009, 01:29:56 AM »

I must have gotten CO mixed up with WY. I've been researching WY today and I joined the FSW boards and introduced myself.

That's cool.  There is one town that is usually a few degrees warmer than anywhere in NH in the winter.  However, most of the population centers tend to colder than the population centers in NH.  Luckily, WY is less humid so it's more of a dry heat.  Unfortunately, WY tends to be a lot more windy, which adds extra chill.  All in all, you may average what feels like a couple degrees warmer weather in WY.  However, I doubt your wife will even notice that difference.  But if you have a bunch of family in WY or something, it makes sense.
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